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Dr Sanjay Gupta {{{ there is NO Test for Corexit }}} in seafood You Eat {{{Arsenic on the Rise Throughout Gulf}}}

 
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Dr Sanjay Gupta {{{ there is NO Test for Corexit }}} in seafood You Eat {{{Arsenic on the Rise Throughout Gulf}}}

DR. SANJAY GUPTA interviews Dr. John Stein, he’s head of NOAA’s seafood safety testing program.

"A 10% margin of error leaves a lot of room for contaminated seafood to find its way onto the market.

Perhaps the most shocking part of the report is that the Federal Government is not even testing seafood for the neurotoxin pesticide dispersant Corexit."

Testers SMELL & TASTE for Tainted Fish.

"So, figuring out what they’re going to test for specifically was the first step. And now they’re developing the test."

There is NO TEST for Corexit !!!

There is a Video and Transcript at the Link:


[link to blog.alexanderhiggins.com]

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i would assume corexit isnt completely odorless or tasteless...
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i would assume corexit isnt completely odorless or tasteless...
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I don't know - What does Corexit Taste Like???


From Link:

"I also highly doubt they are testing for Arsenic, a very lethal substance that scientists are warning is on the rise throughout the Gulf because of the oil spill.

Sanjay also points out that the Federal Government really doesn’t know where the oil is going or how far it has traveled because we still don’t know how much is leaking.

That means that there exists the possibility that some contaminated seafood could be finding a way onto the markets in locations outside of the current areas where the Government is testing seafood for contamination."
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Yummy !!!

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8,000 square miles of Gulf fishing closed area reopened
24 Jun 2010

[link to www.worldfishing.net]

Enlarged MAP:
[link to www.worldfishing.net]

ALL of Texas and Most of Florida is

Open for Fishing!!!

Comforting ???? or NOT !!!

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DR. SANJAY GUPTA interviews Dr. John Stein, he’s head of NOAA’s seafood safety testing program.

"A 10% margin of error leaves a lot of room for contaminated seafood to find its way onto the market.

Perhaps the most shocking part of the report is that the Federal Government is not even testing seafood for the neurotoxin pesticide dispersant Corexit."

Testers SMELL & TASTE for Tainted Fish.

"So, figuring out what they’re going to test for specifically was the first step. And now they’re developing the test."

There is NO TEST for Corexit !!!

There is a Video and Transcript at the Link:


[link to blog.alexanderhiggins.com]

Daniel
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Transcript of Gupta interview:

SANJAY GUPTA from CNN BP Gulf Oil Spill Seafood – “Is the seafood safe to eat?” Video Transcripts

DR. SANJAY GUPTA, CNN SENIOR MEDICAL CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Behind these doors, huge decisions are being made. Tests that determine whether or not the seafood in the Gulf is safe for us to eat. It looks like a scene straight out of a crime scene show.

(on camera): What you’re looking at is a chain of custody record. That’s because the fish that are being tested are literally treated like evidence. You’ve got to keep track of where it’s been and who’s handled it.

This is the testing facility. These are fish over here that are being tested, trying to figure out if, indeed, they are safe. Aluminum foil, special instruments, workers wearing gloves. They want to be very careful not to contaminate any of these fish, to make sure their records and their testing is as accurate as possible.

(voice-over): Thousands of fish being tested since April 28. That’s just a week after the oil spill. They’re being brought here in these huge ice units.

(on camera): We’re here in Mississippi. Got a lot of fish behind us here.

JOHN STEIN, NOAA: Yes.

GUPTA: Bagged and tagged.

STEIN: Bagged and tagged, yes, they are. Very important so we know where they come from.

GUPTA: This is part of the process?

STEIN: Part of the process.

GUPTA (voice-over): Dr. John Stein, he’s head of NOAA’s seafood safety testing program.

(on camera): You go around the country, John, and you talk to people about what’s happening here in the Gulf. The question always comes up, is the seafood safe?

STEIN: Yes.

GUPTA: And you say?

STEIN: Yes. We have an extensive program in place. It’s a cooperative program between NOAA, FDA, EPA, and the Gulf states. And we’re all working together to ensure that seafood is safe.

GUPTA (voice-over): But no one can be sure. And that’s because we don’t know exactly how much oil is leaking and more importantly, exactly where it is going.

(on camera): We’ve been talking to a lot of scientists, and you may know some of this. But they say, you know, the oil, as it starts to break up, you get all these various compounds that are not oil, so to speak, anymore. They’re just these aromatic hydrocarbons, these volatile compounds. And they can go all over the place.

And that’s what I think makes it is so difficult. How do you know if it’s kind of oil, per se, but still some of the toxic elements land further away in an area that doesn’t have oil?

STEIN: Correct. So that’s why this testing program deals both with the sensory, to be able to detect oil and those aromatic hydrocarbons and then the analytical chemistry to also detect those aromatic hydrocarbons.

GUPTA: So to give you a little peek behind the curtain into this room, which is where sensory testing takes place. They have, typically, testers all up and down here. One of the first things you do is actually, this is uncooked fish. You just get a little smell of this. And then determine what you think the score is, what the likelihood that this is contaminated.

(voice-over): The next step, the taste test. (on camera): So you’ve got your nose. You’ve got your sense of smell working and now is the sense of taste. They pointed out to me that, even if this was contaminated, eating a small amount like this would not be problematic. You eat this. You don’t swallow it, they say, because you don’t want to ruin the rest of your testing. So here it goes.

Tastes pretty good, as well. I’m not an expert. That seems pretty good to me.

(voice-over): The researchers say a contaminated fish has a distinct taste; it’s unmistakable.

But if all this sounds subjective to you, you’re right. That’s why there are ten different testers, all of them hidden from each other. They can’t even see each other’s reaction while they’re testing. But all of these tests are only for oil compounds. Turns out no one is testing these fish for possible contamination by that controversial dispersant, Corexit.

(on camera): Diepoxybutane, I believe it’s called, one of the — one of the particularly toxic chemicals in the Corexit. You can’t — there’s no chemical test being done right now?

STEIN: There’s no — there’s not a chemical test for that right now.

GUPTA (voice-over): What? No test? So how can the guarantee of safety be complete? We decided to dig deeper to clarify.

NOAA says, in an abundance of caution, they’re currently developing a chemical test for dispersants. It just isn’t ready yet. And it can’t come soon enough for the millions of people who want to eat these fish and those who make a living catching them.

(on camera): Based on everything you know now, how long is it going to stay closed?

STEIN: It’s going to stay closed until the well, the oil leak is stopped. Once the oil leak is stopped, then we’ll have a very aggressive and very comprehensive survey of that area for reopening.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

BROWN: And Dr. Sanjay Gupta joining us live right now from New Orleans.

And, Sanjay, that is incredible to me, that they are not testing for dispersants at this point. Do you have any sense, having talked to everybody and investigated this, when that’s going to start happening?

GUPTA: They say the test is in development now.

You know, for some time, Campbell, they weren’t sure exactly which chemicals or which components of the dispersants they should test for. If you look at the list, there’s 12 things that they test for chemically, but those are oil breakdown products.

So, figuring out what they’re going to test for specifically was the first step. And now they’re developing the test. Here’s what they told me, Campbell. They said, when it comes to dispersants, they don’t bioaccumulate in fish.

What that means is, they don’t build up. So, even if a fish is exposed to it, they say it’s unlikely that a human who eats that fish is going to have an exposure. Obviously, it’s still of concern to people, which is why they say they’re going to develop the test out of an abundance of caution.

But as things stand now, there isn’t a test. So, they’re just being really strict on where you can and cannot fish.

BROWN: And, Sanjay, those 10 people taste-testing fish wouldn’t even let you put a camera on them, and they are under a lot of pressure right now, aren’t they?

(CROSSTALK)

GUPTA: Especially the local tasters. These are very well-trained people. They say, with 90 percent accuracy, Campbell, through smelling uncooked fish, smelling cooked fish and then eating it, they can tell if a fish has been tainted in some way. They can detect up to 10 parts per million of these various chemicals.

So, it’s a very sophisticated process. But here’s the concern, is that this is a huge industry out here, Campbell. So, if there’s a local tester, if it somehow comes to be known that that person actually said the fish was tainted, that that area has to stay closed in terms of fishing, they’re worried about backlash, which is why they — some of them didn’t even want to be film when we were doing this piece.

BROWN: Wow.

Sanjay Gupta for us — as always, Sanjay, thank you so much. Appreciate it.

GUPTA: Thank you, Campbell.
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It is wise no to eat this seafood.
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It is wise not to eat this seafood.
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It is wise no to eat this seafood.
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That Means Restaurant too - LJS, Red Lobster Etc -

Unless you can determine that it did NOT come from the GOM!!!

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Country of Origin label can tell you what country it comes from. I am sorry to say that I would not eat another prawn, mussel, clam, oyster or and fish that live in the gulf.

I feel bad for the fishermen but I am not eating the poison so they can make a buck. Any Prawn I eat will be from outside the US.

The worst thing you can eat is anything that is a filter eater. Shellfish is the worst. What clams, mussels, and oyster survive can not be safe with all the oil on the bottom.
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12 Jul

Sen. Ben Cardin, D-Md., says he and other congressmen delivered seeds on Sunday to a Norwegian seed bank on the remote Svalbard archipelago.

Operators say the Svalbard Global Seed Vault has the world's most diverse repository of crop seeds and is a safeguard against war or natural disasters that could wipe out food crops.

The seeds came from a Department of Agriculture collection in Colorado. In addition to peppers, seeds for plants including peanuts and melons were sent to the vault.
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Country of Origin label can tell you what country it comes from. I am sorry to say that I would not eat another prawn, mussel, clam, oyster or and fish that live in the gulf.

I feel bad for the fishermen but I am not eating the poison so they can make a buck. Any Prawn I eat will be from outside the US.

The worst thing you can eat is anything that is a filter eater. Shellfish is the worst. What clams, mussels, and oyster survive can not be safe with all the oil on the bottom.
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Fishing is OPEN for

ALL of Texas & ALL of Florida(except 1/2 of Panhandle)


NOT Reassuring for Safety of GOM Fish !!!

LOOK at MAP:
[link to www.worldfishing.net]

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It doesnt surprise me at all, of course the fish will be contaminated. The whole southern fish industry may be at stake. What do you think they will do? Trust what the scientist tells them and go on fishing in these waters?

I am very happy I do not eat seafood.

What i am afraid of is that fact that some fish are fed to cows and pigs, cheap food.. that way everyone except for vegetarians will be affected.

The government will deny all of it and say it cant be from the oil spill but sonner or later it will be revealed ... I am sure it will be a later case here. Deny until it cant be denied anymore.
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Dr Gupta(if you can call him that) is a horses ass, every time he gets up on CNN and says that the Radiation Threat from the Fukushima Reactors is zero to negligible(both in Tokyo and abroad: as in the West Coast), I know that he is nothing but Shill for the government. Meanwhile the U.S. is done nothing to pressure the Japanese gov't in doing anything substantive and actual to remedy the Radiation problem with its reactors(other than just sprinkle water on it and then let pour out into the ocean.
So in my book anything he has to say now, can't be trusted because he is obviously pushing a government agenda. But I do not want to discount the environmental damage done by BP and the gulf oil spill that has obviously changed the ecology of the ocean, shore, and marshes of the gulf states.





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