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Cosmic clouds, deep and unusual solar minimum, are they the cause?

 
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Since my other thread was somehow deleted, I'll have to begin again.

In the past few years you may have noticed the odd and anomalous cosmic events we've been experiencing, cosmic rays on the rise, climate changing, natural disasters in higher frequencies, odd events like the spirals in Norway and Australia and the appearance of Noctilucent clouds. Everyone who looks at these things, looks at them individually, separately but if you step back and look at the overall, you might start to begin to see a scary picture.



Mysterious, glowing clouds previously seen almost exclusively in Earth’s polar regions have appeared in the skies over the United States and Europe over the past several days.

Photographers and other sky watchers in Omaha, Paris, Seattle, and other locations have run outside to capture images of what scientists call noctilucent (“night shining”) clouds. Formed by ice literally at the boundary where the earth’s atmosphere meets space 50 miles up, they shine because they are so high that they remain lit by the sun even after our star is below the horizon.

The clouds might be beautiful, but they could portend global changes caused by global warming. Noctilucent clouds are a fundamentally new phenomenon in the temperate mid-latitude sky, and it’s not clear why they’ve migrated down from the poles. Or why, over the last 25 years, more of them are appearing in the polar regions, too, and shining more brightly.

“That’s a real concern and question,” said James Russell, an atmospheric scientist at Hampton University and the principal investigator of an ongoing NASA satellite mission to study the clouds. “Why are they getting more numerous? Why are they getting brighter? Why are they appearing at lower latitudes?”

Nobody knows for sure, but most of the answers seem to point to human-caused global atmospheric change.


Noctilucent clouds were first observed in 1885 by an amateur astronomer. No observations of anything resembling noctilucent clouds before that time has ever been found. There is no lack of observations of other phenomena in the sky, so atmospheric scientists are fairly sure that the phenomenon is recent, although they are not sure why.

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"We're surrounded by hot gas," Zank notes. "As our sun moves through extremely 'empty' or low-density interstellar space, the solar wind produces a protective bubble --the heliosphere around our solar system, which allows life to flourish on Earth. Unfortunately, we could bump into a small cloud at any time, and we probably won't see it coming. Without the heliosphere, neutral hydrogen would interact with our atmosphere, possibly producing catastrophic climate changes, while our exposure to deadly cosmic radiation in the form of very high-energy cosmic rays would increase."

Every 66 million years or so, the solar system traces a regular path through the galaxy, oscillating up and down as it sails through "all sorts of environments," Zank reports. Over the past 5 million years, he says, "We've had incredibly smooth sailing" because the sun was lolling through an interstellar medium containing less than one atom per cubic inch of space. That's empty space, indeed: Even wispy clouds are 100 times more dense. Currently, Zank says, the solar system is in a region of space containing between 3 and 4 particles per cubic inch.


"Space," Zank notes, "is full of clouds." One particularly troublesome cloud region, located in a star-forming region towards the Aquila Rift, clearly is headed our way, according to Zank. Pushed by galactic wind, the cloud may collide with Earth's protective bubble within the next 50,000 years, he says, and some researchers think we could encounter fluffier knots of gas--containing 10 to 100 particles per cubic inch of space--far sooner. Our immediate or local interstellar environment is chock-full of gas clusters known as the Local Fluff, Zank points out, and existing instruments aren't sensitive enough to detect extremely small clouds. Consequently, Zank says, "We won't know that our heliosphere is collapsing until we see highly elevated levels of neutral hydrogen and cosmic rays, and a hydrogen wall in the vicinity of the outer planets."


Did a rogue cloud wipe out the dinosaurs? In 1939, British cosmologist Sir Fred Hoyle suggested that cosmic collisions with clouds may obliterate the heliosphere every now and then. Zank agrees. "The protective solar wind would be extinguished, and cosmic radiation might lead to gene mutations," he says. "Hydrogen would bombard Earth, producing increased cloud cover, leading perhaps to global warming, or extreme amounts of precipitation and ice ages. We can't predict every scenario at this point."
[link to www.sciencedaily.com]
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A 50-year low in solar wind pressure: Measurements by the Ulysses spacecraft reveal a 20% drop in solar wind pressure since the mid-1990s—the lowest point since such measurements began in the 1960s. The solar wind helps keep galactic cosmic rays out of the inner solar system. With the solar wind flagging, more cosmic rays are permitted to enter, resulting in increased health hazards for astronauts. Weaker solar wind also means fewer geomagnetic storms and auroras on Earth.

A 12-year low in solar "irradiance": Careful measurements by several NASA spacecraft show that the sun's brightness has dropped by 0.02% at visible wavelengths and 6% at extreme UV wavelengths since the solar minimum of 1996. The changes so far are not enough to reverse the course of global warming, but there are some other significant side-effects: Earth's upper atmosphere is heated less by the sun and it is therefore less "puffed up." Satellites in low Earth orbit experience less atmospheric drag, extending their operational lifetimes.

A 55-year low in solar radio emissions: After World War II, astronomers began keeping records of the sun's brightness at radio wavelengths. Records of 10.7 cm flux extend back all the way to the early 1950s. Radio telescopes are now recording the dimmest "radio sun" since 1955: plot. Some researchers believe that the lessening of radio emissions is an indication of weakness in the sun's global magnetic field. No one is certain, however, because the source of these long-monitored radio emissions is not fully understood.
[link to science.nasa.gov]

Threefold increase

The number of interstellar dust grains increased from four per day, per meter in 1997 to 12 per day in 2000, Landgraf said. The results were announced earlier this month. He expects the rate to stay constant until 2005, and then increase by another factor of 3 prior to 2013.

The potential effects are not well known, according to Landgraf and his colleagues at the Max-Planck-Institute.

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More to come

The solar system is always plowing through interstellar material. The Sun's giant magnetic field thwarts much of the dust from entering the solar system. But the magnetic field weakens periodically, on a cycle that lasts roughly 22-years. The cycle is related to an 11-year cycle of sunspot activity.

This is the first of the related dust storms that has been seriously monitored by a spacecraft.

Some day, the influx could get worse. The solar system is plowing toward the fringes of a galactic cloud known as the G-cloud.

"The time of the entry into the G-cloud is unknown, but is expected to occur any time in the next 10,000 years," Landgraf said. "There will be a constant increase [in dust rates], because the G-cloud is more dense than the local interstellar cloud that is now surrounding our Sun."
[link to www.space.com]


The Sun is located near the edge of a great void in interstellar matter known as the "local bubble" that is filled with hot low-density plasma. Several thousand years ago the Sun entered our local interstellar cloud (LIC), one of several nearby clouds composed of warm, low density (~0.3 atoms/cm3) material blowing at us from the direction of the Scorpius and Centaurus constellations.

During the Sun's journey through the Galaxy it encounters a range of environments, and interstellar densities ranging from 10-5 to 105 atoms/cm3 are observed in our galactic neighborhood. Hydrodynamic simulations show that if the solar system were to enter a typical diffuse cloud with a density of 10 atoms/cm3, the size of the heliosphere would shrink by nearly a factor of ten, with significant effects on the interplanetary environment at 1 AU.
[link to interstellar.jpl.nasa.gov]
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I've noticed these clouds, and wondered about them, but are they caused by human global warming or human made chemtrails. I'm thinking the chemtrail have something to do with this. hf nice thread thanks.
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I've noticed these clouds, and wondered about them, but are they caused by human global warming or human made chemtrails. I'm thinking the chemtrail have something to do with this. hf nice thread thanks.
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Ever heard of Sylphs?

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Once I studied up on them it became clear these were manifestations of the sky elementals combatting the chem trails. It is there for all to see once you understand that there is a war going on over our heads....

AS ABOVE - SO BELOW!
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When you combine your info Xenus, with the data from NASA that indicates all the planets of the solar system are undergoing various and noticeable changes, the conclusion that we are entering a denser region of the interstellar cloud and quickly, is becoming one of definite credibility.
As his vision slowly cleared, the traveler came to the startling realization that he had been sitting by the side of the road, repeatedly hitting himself in the head with his walking staff. He had in fact been doing this for a quarter of a century.

Shaking his head at his own folly, he dusted himself off, set his gaze upon the road up the mountain and once more set off upon his journey.
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I've noticed these clouds, and wondered about them, but are they caused by human global warming or human made chemtrails. I'm thinking the chemtrail have something to do with this. hf nice thread thanks.



Ever heard of Sylphs?

[link to www.bibliotecapleyades.net]


Once I studied up on them it became clear these were manifestations of the sky elementals combatting the chem trails. It is there for all to see once you understand that there is a war going on over our heads....

AS ABOVE - SO BELOW!
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thanks my next research project hf
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When you combine your info Xenus, with the data from NASA that indicates all the planets of the solar system are undergoing various and noticeable changes, the conclusion that we are entering a denser region of the interstellar cloud and quickly, is becoming one of definite credibility.
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yep...it is the one thing that is possible and connects the many 'mysteries' occurring in our neighborhood recently.
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When you combine your info Xenus, with the data from NASA that indicates all the planets of the solar system are undergoing various and noticeable changes, the conclusion that we are entering a denser region of the interstellar cloud and quickly, is becoming one of definite credibility.
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Credibility on GLP, and on the internet in general, is hard to establish, hence why I always provide links for people to look at and only tend to use credible and tangible information. I have no doubt that it's the cause of all these so called anomalies and unusual solar behaviour, but I have hundreds of bookmarks with information and have had several years of learning to come to this understanding. Neither of which many people would like to experience to understand what I am talking about.

I didn't start off with the idea of these dense regions of ISM, I came to this conclusion based upon observations and data we have so far, which all point to the same thing. Tomorrow I will continue to paste in more relevant information, condensed as much as possible.
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When you combine your info Xenus, with the data from NASA that indicates all the planets of the solar system are undergoing various and noticeable changes, the conclusion that we are entering a denser region of the interstellar cloud and quickly, is becoming one of definite credibility.


Credibility on GLP, and on the internet in general, is hard to establish, hence why I always provide links for people to look at and only tend to use credible and tangible information. I have no doubt that it's the cause of all these so called anomalies and unusual solar behavior, but I have hundreds of bookmarks with information and have had several years of learning to come to this understanding. Neither of which many people would like to experience to understand what I am talking about.

I didn't start off with the idea of these dense regions of ISM, I came to this conclusion based upon observations and data we have so far, which all point to the same thing. Tomorrow I will continue to paste in more relevant information, condensed as much as possible.
 Quoting: Xenus 

And much appreciated your work and information is.
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As his vision slowly cleared, the traveler came to the startling realization that he had been sitting by the side of the road, repeatedly hitting himself in the head with his walking staff. He had in fact been doing this for a quarter of a century.

Shaking his head at his own folly, he dusted himself off, set his gaze upon the road up the mountain and once more set off upon his journey.
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Nice thread OP.

I have actually had a sneaking suspicion for some time now that the so-called phenomenon of "chemtrails" is in fact a consequence of some change in our atmosphere modulated by cosmic rays. I have no real evidence to support that other than the theory that cosmic rays produce more cloud condensation nuclei in our atmosphere which leads to...more clouds!

At any rate, this also ties into the the Norway and Australian spirals. IMO, it is entirely possible that rockets/missles have caused these apparitions...it's just that we have never been able to see them before. Now that the conditions in our atmosphere are conducive to persistent contrails, we can see them. And yes, the spiral shape makes perfect sense to me if you consider a rocket that has only a slight wobble around its trajectory axis. A small wobble equals a huge spiral when you consider the distances traversed and the dispersal of a contrail by the conical plume exiting from the engine.
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Great thread OP.
Some good information that everyone should know about.
I know what my new research project will be now.
Thanks tounge
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Xenus, I have a thought/question...

They say that there is an area where there is a high influx of cosmic particles coming into the solar system...

In what direction is that influx coming from? Could it be the 'knot' that IBEX has shown is unwinding?
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thanks op. keep it comin!
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Solar Breeze

The intensity of the Sun's magnetic field and solar wind have declined to a record low level.
On August 25, 1997, NASA launched the Advanced Composition Explorer (ACE) satellite on a mission to monitor energetic ions coming from the Sun, as well as higher energy particles (cosmic rays) thought to be arriving from intergalactic space.

ACE is in orbit around the L1 LaGrange point approximately 1,500,000 kilometers from Earth and will remain there until 2024. Scientists hope that data from the spacecraft's onboard sensors will help them understand how the Solar System formed, including how the solar magnetic field moderates incoming high-speed ions. Several research groups have been investigating a possible link between our climate and cosmic rays.

During periods of high activity, energetic pulses on the Sun eject charged particles in the billions of tons. They are normally slow moving, requiring about 24 hours to reach Earth. Known as Coronal Mass Ejections (CME), an indication of their arrival is an intensification of the aurorae.

Although the Sun is in a relatively quiescent state with few sunspots visible, it occasionally erupts with solar flares that can reach incredible velocities. As a matter of observation, they continue to accelerate as they move away from the Sun. What explains this counterintuitive process?

Sunlight reaches Earth in approximately eight minutes. A solar ejection arriving in 30 minutes must be moving at more than a quarter of the speed of light. In the consensus view, such velocities are a profound mystery, yet a gigantic CME was observed on January 17, 2005, that reached our planet in less than half an hour. How do CMEs accelerate to 75,000 kilometers per second or more?

Plasma physicist Tony Peratt wrote: “...electric fields aligned along the magnetic field direction freely accelerate particles. Electrons and ions are accelerated in opposite directions, giving rise to a current along the magnetic field lines.”

Rather than shock fronts or so-called "magnetic reconnection events," the solar wind receives its impetus from an electric field that emanates from the Sun in all directions. The easiest way for charged particles to accelerate is within such a field. The Sun's e-field extends for billions of kilometers, ending at the heliospheric boundary, which the twin Voyager spacecraft are just now beginning to penetrate.

The "mysterious" acceleration of positively charged solar wind particles is an electrical phenomenon that is predicted by the Electric Sun model.

Solar flares are labeled C, M, or X: light, medium, or powerful. The January 17 CME was rated X3. However, on September 7, 2005, an X17 CME impacted Earth's magnetosphere, knocking out radio transmissions and overloading power station transformers. A veritable cosmic tornado of positive ions poured into the electrically charged environment of our planet.

Is it a coincidence that hurricanes Katrina and Rita occurred on either side of the second largest X-flare ever recorded?

In 1997, Henrik Svensmark and Eigil Fris-Christensen published "Variation of Cosmic Ray Flux and Global Cloud Coverage – a Missing Link in Solar–Climate Relationships" in which they argue for the Sun's mediating influence on Earth's climate. Essentially, the greater the number of high-energy ions that enter our magnetic field, the greater will be the cloud cover.

When the Sun enters a quiet phase in its 22 year cycle, more charged particles are able to reach Earth because the solar magnetic field is not strong enough to deflect them. As they encounter our watery atmosphere, they cause clouds to form. Similar to an old-fashioned cloud chamber, when fast moving ions fly through a region of high humidity a track of condensation appears. It was those threads of tiny droplets that were once used to monitor subatomic particles produced by linear accelerators or "atom-smashers."

Mike Lockwood and Claus Fröhlich issued a paper in 2007 that contradicted any idea of a heliocentric influence on cloud cover. Although they acknowledge that it might have had a small effect in the past, they assert that humanity's industrial activity is so great that it overshadows a solar connection. Of course, they completely ignore the role of electricity in space and contend for purely mechanistic and chemical interactions.

To Electric Universe theorists, the relationship between incoming high-speed protons from CMEs and increased storm activity, coupled with the analysis offered by Svensmark and Fris-Christensen, is not coincidental. Since water is a dipolar molecule, the fact that ions attract water vapor seems indisputable.
 Quoting: Stephen Smith Nov 22, 2010

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here is the interesting part rockon

Svensmark and Friis-Christensen rebut Lockwood's solar paper
Monday, 8 October, 2007

It's a curious paper, in some parts reading more like a skeptic op-ed than scientific literature. In just a few paragraphs, they hint that human CO2 effect is minor compared to natural greenhouse gases, cast doubt on the surface temperature record, claim global warming stopped in 1988 and invoke water vapor as the most powerful greenhouse gas.
[link to www.skepticalscience.com]


Global warming has slowed down over the past 10 years, say scientists
26th November 2010

The rate at which global temperatures are rising has slowed in the past decade, scientists said today.
In a report published today, the Met Office said the slow in the rate of warming was down to a combination of natural variation in the weather and pollution.
[link to www.dailymail.co.uk]
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LOL, forgot this thread even existed.
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Still no reasonable explanation for the highly unusual solar minimum when we're already past the supposed peak of the maximum...

Sun Mysteriously Goes All Quiet Just When Its Activity Should Be Highest

[link to www.wired.com]

And worst of all, no one on GLP seems to care because it doesn't include the sun frying all our electronics meme. One would think that something as colossal as the sun behaving so strangely would draw some attention...





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