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06/26/2005 03:28 AM
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taping a VHS video onto a DVD question?
ok, i have a movie on a VHS cassette tape that I want to convert onto DVD.
i have both a DVD and VHS player. cant i just play the VHS and click "record" using the DVD? or must i connect the two machines together and sync them up somehow?
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12/08/2005 10:14 AM
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Youīd need a video stabilizer, unfortunately. The old school VHS tapes do have copy protection, which is why you couldnīt copy from vrc to vcr with a commercial tape..

If the video is from a VHS tape you made yourself, with a camcorder or whatever.. Then it should be fine.
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Target had a DVD recorder on sale for $97 last week, the cyberhome dvr 1600. I bought one. Makes great dubs. You can even copy from dvd to dvd if the dvd isnīt copyright protected.
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Not all VHS tapes have the macrovision copyguard protection. Most anything that was a major release after 1985 has it. Even with a video stablizer (aka guard-stripper) the DVD-R will still detect it and prevent you from copying.

No, you donīt need to snyc, just hit play on the source (VHS) and rec on the target (DVR-R) and let it go, but make certain you are there to hit stop when the movie ends. If the movie is longer than 120 mins youīll need to switch the DVD-R to a slower speed which will degrade the quality just slightly. Hereīs what I do to determine if copyguard is present without wasting a DVD-R blank. I first try it with a DVD+RW blank and run a test. If the VHS is protected your DVD-R unit will immediately refuse to record it and display a message. If it does record it, stop the the process and redo with a standard DVD-R.
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12/08/2005 10:14 AM
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good thread !
I didnīt realize DVD recorders where down to 97 bucks.
Iīve got an old concert video of mine I *really*
want on DVD, when I tried with a USB adapter the
video recorded ok but the damn sound was a sec. off.
like watching a jap monster movie... not what I wanted
on a music vid.
Iīm going to Target!
peace
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12/05/2022 01:59 AM
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Re: taping a VHS video onto a DVD question?
2005.... long time ago. You're not going to believe what happens in about 15 years from this post.

It was about this time that we underwent the big shift away from the analog grid, and over to the digital grid.

What is the analog grid though? what was that signal? what was on the tapes? was it just one frame after another like a reel to reel projector would play?

No.....

Only one step short of computer technology, and with NO EXTENSION no less, a totally uncontained out of control signal.

VHS tapes are estimated to be able to hold 2 GB OF DATA, and the Russians allegedly built a converter in the 90's to achieve this data transfer, which makes no sense for a collapsed state.... of course unless you know the story.

Putin sent you off to die, but don't worry, he has a permanent copy of you in his archives. Quite a bit is still on VHS for sure.

4k doesn't dictate the end quality, the type of camera and its lens do.

There are still VHS releases that are of a much higher quality than DVD and possibly approaching 4k, even with the lower resolution.

Our understanding of quality revolves around our understanding of the digital grid, NOT the analog grid which they got rid of.

VHS technology was dangerous as a motherfucker, and the stupid cassettes were exactly the same.

Don't assume to know anything about that DATA.

Yes DATA. Eventually we'll have the tools to digitally analyze the uncontained analog DATA and find out some of what we need to know regarding how this all happened. There's going to be other stuff that got in too before they wrapped it as the MPEG digital signal.

'The Machine that built itself' - and it wanted a failed collapsed state do 2 gb data dumps onto VHS tapes before there were even HDD's with that capacity.

"Mid 90's" - Yeah bullshit.

Watch yourself.
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12/05/2022 02:12 AM
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Important to note as well is that any VHS tape that has been utilized as a 'digital' (Don't assume to know what that is) data storage medium, can have the actual data viewed on a VCR in a way you've never seen it.

This is HIGHLY UNADVISABLE.

We're not sure if we're dealing with living entities yet of some kind, but you'll find out if you play one of those on a VCR.

A 'VCR' is not something that you understand, nor was it ever ready for any type of release to the public.

The MPEG signal is when this was ready for the people.
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12/05/2022 02:23 AM
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Re: taping a VHS video onto a DVD question?
ok, i have a movie on a VHS cassette tape that I want to convert onto DVD.
i have both a DVD and VHS player. cant i just play the VHS and click "record" using the DVD? or must i connect the two machines together and sync them up somehow?
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This is the easiest way to do it and it only costs $13 bucks.
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12/05/2022 02:27 AM
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This should absolutely strike fear into your heart.

Those of you old enough to remember this tech remember how much different it 'felt' too.

There was a serious feeling that doesn't apply to loading up a netflix video, a youtube video, or an AVI/MP4 whatever type of video file.

There was a serious feeling because it was serious, and we'll find out more in the years to come about what made it so serious to be fucking around with that in an unfinished state.

Once a VHS is utilized as data storage, a standard VHS to VHS copier can be used to copy the data not only offline, but OFF OF A COMPUTER ENTIRELY.

When we talk about VHS, we're talking about the hardcore shit.

VHS Grain isn't anything to play with, we don't even know what it is.
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12/05/2022 02:41 AM
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When we hear the term 'Analog' many think also of the term 'natural' or nature.

This couldn't be further from the truth, there's nothing natural about it

Although the analog DATA/Signal is perhaps a step short of computer technology, the more accurate definition is ATOMIC TECHNOLOGY.

VHS was a form of ATOMIC TECHNOLOGY, and this technology went on to be used in platter HDD's and everything all the way up until solid state drives arrived.

The big warning though is that this particular type of 'DATA' can most certainly be transferred to a mechanical HDD and likely a solid state drive too, but without extension.

This signal has to be converted in a very particular way, but nonetheless the data would still be on the medium.

This isn't a joke.
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12/05/2022 02:42 AM
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This is a warning too to musicians. Don't play with the analog gear, and think you have any idea what you're doing.

Boards of Canada you're not, and they had no business doing a lot of what they did.
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12/05/2022 02:49 AM
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Too many people are DEAD, whether from Covid, the Ukraine war, or the multitude of other lethal shit that's arisen.

Someone had to bring up the issue sooner than later.

This is a world where information gets lost, and nobody ever finds it again, especially with the level of complexity involved now.

Don't assume there's anything 'natural' about what's happened and led to this point.

All of our leaders were Satanists too, and now have nothing to show for anything. I say 'were' because the truth reveals itself when your hair starts falling out and you begin to get older and breakdown. (George W. Bush)

9/11 being an inside job doesn't necessitate any further engagement with these individuals, also, our 'leaders'.

There's definitely another thing going on and you wouldn't want to be them, or even close to them.
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12/05/2022 02:49 AM
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Re: taping a VHS video onto a DVD question?
Hard to believe people still buy dvd players, practically all media went digital over a decade ago.
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12/05/2022 03:20 AM
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A final post to wrap this up, mainly for the IT guys, researchers and conspiracy theorists. Limited hangout certainly in a mortal world.

[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] - ArVid

"ArVid (Archiver on Video) (Russian: is a data backup solution using a VHS tape as a storage medium. It was very popular in Russia and the rest of the former USSR in the mid-1990s."

"It was produced in Zelenograd, Russia." (By who exactly?)

Features
Using low-cost VHS tapes and recording units for data backup.
High reliability
Hamming code error correction
Easy data copying between two VHS units (eliminating need of a computer for data copying)


Disadvantages
Inefficient tape capacity usage (only 2 grades of luminance signal spectrum were used)
Poor software support

"It was very popular in Russia and the rest of the former USSR in the mid-1990s." - Bull fucking shit, they'd just pulled the plug on the Soviet Union and hung millions and millions of people out to dry, and that was after leading them TO THEIR DOOM in Afghanistan. (Sound familiar?)

Ukraine was involved with invading Afghanistan in 1979.

As someone fairly technical, even I'm at a loss for what the real application of this data storage was, what they knew about the analog signal, and also what they knew how to do with it.

There's no doubt that they had a lot of their evil deeds on VHS, but this isn't even close to the whole story, and I don't think we'll ever get it.

We're talking about a multitude of complex issues now for which no human should be confronted with.

This piece of hardware was obviously created by the Russian Government, and it wasn't the only thing either.

It's possible that they know how to do some stuff that completely redefines what we think we know about 'Analog' and 'Digital'.

You're talking about a REAL physical thing, not just a figment of the imagination.

The stuff of nightmares that has no boundaries at all.

It's important to stay above board... obviously a bottomless pit has no bottom.

Take care all.
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12/05/2022 03:25 AM
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Re: taping a VHS video onto a DVD question?
If you are going to using a video editor in your workflow process, you will have to consider color and luminance conversion from transferring from modern standards to legacy standards and visa versa this is called (REC. 601) to (REC. 709).

REC. 601 is the legacy standard.

Parameter REC. 709/ Rec.601(NTSC)/ Rec.601(PAL)

Reference White x=0.3127/ x= 0.3127/ x=0.3127
(D65) y=0.3290/ y=0.3290/ y=0.3290

Color primaries
Red x=0.640/ x=0.630/ x=0.640
y=0.330/ y=0.340/ y=0.330

Green x= 0.300/ x=0.310/ x=0.290
y=0.600/ y=0.595/ y=0.600

Blue x=0.150/ x=0.155/ x=0.150
y=0.060/ y=0.070/ y=0.060
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12/05/2022 03:38 AM
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Re: taping a VHS video onto a DVD question?
ok, i have a movie on a VHS cassette tape that I want to convert onto DVD.
i have both a DVD and VHS player. cant i just play the VHS and click "record" using the DVD? or must i connect the two machines together and sync them up somehow?
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You can but you need an interface of some sort from RCA to your computer. I bought a $60 USB adapter that came with software, I bought the Roxio solution.

Thing that sucks about this is you have to play the entire VHS from start to finish, there is no quick way to do this.

Have fun.
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12/05/2022 03:39 AM
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Re: taping a VHS video onto a DVD question?
There are still VHS releases that are of a much higher quality than DVD and possibly approaching 4k, even with the lower resolution.
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12/05/2022 03:41 AM
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Re: taping a VHS video onto a DVD question?
DVD uses Vob files and VHS is MPEG1.

You have to convert using conversion software.
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12/05/2022 03:49 AM
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Is there an A.I. bot in this thread or something? WTF.
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12/05/2022 04:03 AM

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There are services that perform this tasks.

They will do the best job possible.
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12/05/2022 04:08 AM
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Re: taping a VHS video onto a DVD question?
DVD uses Vob files and VHS is MPEG1.

You have to convert using conversion software.
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Yo tardbot

ROBOTdance

MPEG1 is digital

VHS is magnetic signals
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12/05/2022 04:09 AM
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Is there an A.I. bot in this thread or something? WTF.
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Tardbot 5000 knows all

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12/05/2022 04:13 AM
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I found 450 VHS Cassettes
and a couple 100 DVD
I'll come back, they dirty and not for touch yet.
thing is I'm thinking how to hook all that to my computer monitor.
was org. for the Womans kids, she put's a vhs on as babysitter in the background cause it's a separate appliance/component
or it all takes too much computing, same reason I play an old school radio
for background fill

I'll come back, cause I'm fuckd atm

Last Edited by Ghost in a Snowstorm on 12/05/2022 04:15 AM
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12/05/2022 11:55 PM
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A final post to wrap this up, mainly for the IT guys, researchers and conspiracy theorists. Limited hangout certainly in a mortal world.

[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] - ArVid

"ArVid (Archiver on Video) (Russian: is a data backup solution using a VHS tape as a storage medium. It was very popular in Russia and the rest of the former USSR in the mid-1990s."

"It was produced in Zelenograd, Russia." (By who exactly?)

Features
Using low-cost VHS tapes and recording units for data backup.
High reliability
Hamming code error correction
Easy data copying between two VHS units (eliminating need of a computer for data copying)


Disadvantages
Inefficient tape capacity usage (only 2 grades of luminance signal spectrum were used)
Poor software support

"It was very popular in Russia and the rest of the former USSR in the mid-1990s." - Bull fucking shit, they'd just pulled the plug on the Soviet Union and hung millions and millions of people out to dry, and that was after leading them TO THEIR DOOM in Afghanistan. (Sound familiar?)

Ukraine was involved with invading Afghanistan in 1979.

As someone fairly technical, even I'm at a loss for what the real application of this data storage was, what they knew about the analog signal, and also what they knew how to do with it.

There's no doubt that they had a lot of their evil deeds on VHS, but this isn't even close to the whole story, and I don't think we'll ever get it.

We're talking about a multitude of complex issues now for which no human should be confronted with.

This piece of hardware was obviously created by the Russian Government, and it wasn't the only thing either.

It's possible that they know how to do some stuff that completely redefines what we think we know about 'Analog' and 'Digital'.

You're talking about a REAL physical thing, not just a figment of the imagination.

The stuff of nightmares that has no boundaries at all.

It's important to stay above board... obviously a bottomless pit has no bottom.

Take care all.
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I don't know what you keep going on about.
Yes computers use to use magnetic tape drives.
Yes someone figured out how to use a magnetic vhs as one.
Big whoopty deal. Nothing magical about a vhs.
You know somebody figured out how to use mini-dv tapes the same (abiet digital) way?
I still have the software.
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12/06/2022 12:42 AM
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VHS standard supports 6mhz bandwidth in standard speed.

That much bandwidth can encode huge amounts of data.

Creating devices with sufficient RESOLUTION to be useful would cut storage down to less than half theoretical.

Why?

Because the information density and bandwidth of analog modulation exceeds by far the APPARENT bandwidth in which it "fits".

Engineering argument.:
You can't "record" the 1.5 mhz bandwidth of the AM radio band as RF, then "play it back and hope to "tune in" different radio signals in playback.

The resolution throughput won't do that.

It can be a robust digital data storage medium for certain.
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12/06/2022 12:46 AM

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Too many people are DEAD, whether from Covid, the Ukraine war, or the multitude of other lethal shit that's arisen.

Someone had to bring up the issue sooner than later.

This is a world where information gets lost, and nobody ever finds it again, especially with the level of complexity involved now.

Don't assume there's anything 'natural' about what's happened and led to this point.

All of our leaders were Satanists too, and now have nothing to show for anything. I say 'were' because the truth reveals itself when your hair starts falling out and you begin to get older and breakdown. (George W. Bush)

9/11 being an inside job doesn't necessitate any further engagement with these individuals, also, our 'leaders'.

There's definitely another thing going on and you wouldn't want to be them, or even close to them.
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12/06/2022 12:47 AM
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If your computer has a DVD burner, you could do it through the computer. $15 for the kit. Transferred a few VHS tapes this way.


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12/06/2022 12:53 AM
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Have a brand new VHS to DVD machine, took it out of the box, tried it out, and never touched it again.

I have big plans to convert all my home video and news footage taken during the vhs camcorder days.

I did complete indexing all the footage so I can quickly find clips by date and subject.

Maybe this winter.

Need to compile a DVD of proof to show my kids because they dispute certain facts. Lol This is gonna be grrreat!
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Jeesh.

Thread is from 2005.
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12/06/2022 12:56 AM
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Is there an A.I. bot in this thread or something? WTF.
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I think it was some dude from the Beta timeline who found himself in our VHS timeline and is fascinated with the bigger tapes.
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Re: taping a VHS video onto a DVD question?
There are still VHS releases that are of a much higher quality than DVD and possibly approaching 4k, even with the lower resolution.
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He's actually right about some of that... not 4k but way better than a lot of DVDs especially in terms of dynamic range.


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