BEING LED INTO A TRAP? Here are some possibilities!

and not about "alien agenda"

FreedomStands is also suggesting aliens are toying with us by placing apparently twisted beliefs in people. And gives an example by quotation.

But obviously, you didn't actually read the post before you sparked off on one...

Edit - FreedomStands, I think you've maintained your dignity in the face of continuously vacuous and childlike responses from certain people in this thread... just so you know.

and not about "alien agenda"

FreedomStands is also suggesting aliens are toying with us by placing apparently twisted beliefs in people. And gives an example by quotation.

But obviously, you didn't actually read the post before you sparked off on one...


Yes I did. You came along after his massive edit.

He could have started the discussion without the personal attacks on NIP. He could have had the discussion without bringing in the bullshit deliberate misconstruing of what she said about "fire" and "leaving the body behind." He could have had the discussion without her personal info.

But he didn't.

Could you check the reply I made on my thread you looked over?

It's pretty important. I'd say more important than this or the thread I started.

Funny how he had to edit a whole bunch of other stuff in there because he knew call out threads are against the rules.

But sure, he just wanted to "discuss" someone else's comments, deliberately making them out to be her saying people are supposed to jump into fire and kill themselves...

But if he does it, it's just "discussion" and stating that it's an OBVIOUS CALL OUT THREAD is an "ad hominem."

I am not speaking to his assertions on this thread because in part I agree--I won't be getting into any alien ships 'just because' without proof there's a damned good reason to and they're safe.

and her website.

that the call out thread even brought in her PERSONAL INFORMATION.

Yes I did. You came along after his massive edit.

There are a number of people who believe things like the following. Can you see how they might be potentially deceived by malevolent entities or their own distortions?

Here are some quotes:


"There is that misunderstood story of Adam and Eve eating of the Tree of Knowledge and I guess they went to hell for it. YOU ARE TO EAT of that Tree."

"And UGLY as shit."

"It's as if "satan" just moved into her for the occasion. The window to the soul is in the eyes, and there was never better proof of this than the light in the eyes of this lovely person that passed, and the darkness in the eyes in this small "Christian" soul. "

"This is so typical of so many "pious" Christians. I have been sent to HELL by them my whole life and I cannot long stand to be in these churches."

"this horrid evangelical movement of the THUGS. I continue to get sent to Hell by them here too. HELL is HavingEverLastingLife"

"Fire is Firey Intelligence Reverberating Eternally."

"Yes that beloved lady of LIGHT is in "hell fire" and my friends, the satanic folks changed "hellfire" into something of the devil, when it's something you should ATTAIN."


"By your works given with LOVE from the heart. Didn't the bible say someplace correctly, that Satan is the master of LIES. YOU WANT HELLFIRE for yourselves!!!!!!!!!! It is not a ugly place."

"HELLFIRE is HOT, because the more love and growth, the higher the vibration of soul (and matter), "heaven" gets hotter and hotter in fact as the vibrations increased. A being form the Central Universe is incredibly "hot"."

"COLD is the symptom of Darkness, not HEAT. This Baptist lady showed her COLD and then some."

"PONDER the ABOVE."

Could you link me to the page?

If he was calling people out, he'd have tacked on an argument, reasons and conclusions.

But he made a quote, and you might notice the questions.

But aren't you technically trying to call him out? This is nothing more than double-standard hypocrisy at best.

He never stated that though. That is what impression the [original author's] comments themselves give.

But as far as I am aware, he's quoted and is on about the argument. He's not said anything against NIP at all.

Go ahead. Quote where he calls her anything.

Very good observation! Yes these are Luciferian Satanists of a kind, even if they don't realize it.

(I'd be pretty impressive someone quoted my arguments for once and picked it apart).

Example? When I first saw the thread, it only had precise quotations from a non-specific source. I thought it was inner-thread. But if it's from the website, then it's not any different to quoting any other website.

Yes I did. You came along after his massive edit.

He could have started the discussion without the personal attacks on NIP. He could have had the discussion without bringing in the bullshit deliberate misconstruing of what she said about "fire" and "leaving the body behind." He could have had the discussion without her personal info.

But he didn't.

And it does not contain any personal information, nor can I see any personal attacks.

I did not mean to make any personal attacks on Nobody In Particular, or to have anything I posted to be interpreted as a personal attack on anyone. I was presenting examples of a belief system to prove that it both seems to exist and is in use on this forum.

I did not mean to make any personal attacks on Nobody In Particular, or to have anything I posted to be interpreted as a personal attack on anyone. I was presenting examples of a belief system to prove that it both seems to exist and is in use on this forum.

I hope to ask questions related to this belief system while not being attacked for questioning things or called names, insulted, or having accusations made about me that may derail for the topic. These may be tactics that some use either automatically in response to questions they might fear to consider, or as a deliberate attempt to discredit or distract people from the questions being asked and the importance of the beliefs being presented.

I believe it is also more insulting to Nobody In Particular to consider her strong beliefs completely absurd or arbitrary. I believe that what she claims she believes, and I feel that to believe that she believes what she claims and take her beliefs seriously is the best way to respect her.

I did not suggest that what she is saying isn't true, and I believe she believes what she is saying and that she believes she was told by entities or aliens. I will even go so far to say that I believe she believes she is in contact with non human entities, and that I even believe that she very well may be.

I deeply respect her beliefs by believing she believes them and that they are worth serious consideration. I am suggesting that they might be a form of manipulation by these entities and that they may mean harm or lead to harm despite the intentions of the entities who claim these things.

I hope that makes sense. I think that taking Nobody In Particular seriously is showing her great respect, and taking her beliefs into serious consideration enough to end up questioning them is to treat them with great respect as well.

Nobody In Particular may not believe that I respect her beliefs, but I have always believed that everything she says has been told to her, just as she claims, and that whatever she says she has seen, she has seen it. But because she has been shown things, does not mean that those things represent beneficial truth and are not a form of deception, or not a means to lead people into some kind of harm.

I'm suggesting that there is no reason to place one's whole life, future, and trust in the hands of entities just because they claim to be benevolent. They may just be claiming benevolence while practicing deception in order to lead people into terrible harm.

I'm showing examples of how that might be the case when they suggest things like "burning is good" "hell is better" "lose your bodies" "board the ships to survive" "place your trust in us" or anything else.

What you're calling "personal information" was publically posted on this forum and not told to me in private. I really don't appreciate you reporting my posts like that without asking for an explanation first. That information was publically stated on this forum in other threads and possibly multiple times, it was never some secret that I discovered and exposed.

I mentioned that information because people kept calling her a he and I wanted to let them know that she has said <snip>.

So please don't report me! I am really not happy about that at all!

And it does not contain any personal information, nor can I see any personal attacks.


The personal information was not in the OP, and HOPEFULLY has been removed by the mods. I reported the post he did that in, because it's a clear violation not only of the rules, but also of COMMON DECENCY.

Especially if you are going to FALSELY ACCUSE them of trying to start a death cult, which is what he did in the post he gave her personal information in.

YES, that's serious business. VERY SERIOUS. As well as patently dishonest.

Call out THREADS are against the rules.

Did he call her on the thread she said that on?

Read it again.

Just because you would be flattered by a call out thread doesn't make it any less against the rules.

they can either simply reply to your assertions, or they can start a new thread about the concepts...

You're not supposed to do it. She's not supposed to do it. Personal information is AGAINST. THE. RULES.

And with good reason, especially when you are making someone out to be the leader of some kind of suicide cult.

How about before you do THAT, you just go right on ahead and ASK.

But no. You didn't do that. Now did you.

You started a whole new thread about how she's a suicide cult leader and a luciferian and everything else.

The personal information was not in the OP

I reported the post he did that in, because it's a clear violation not only of the rules, but also of COMMON DECENCY.

Especially if you are going to FALSELY ACCUSE

YES, that's serious business. VERY SERIOUS.

Your posts are really offending me very deeply, and I don't appreciate your accusations. They are hurting me. To suggest that I lack "common decency" is very hurtful to me, especially when my intentions were never bad at all, and the information I stated was publically stated on GLP and was not definitely true, nor was it kept private by her but actually was posted by here and thats what I was basing it on.

I'm offended that you think I'm trying to accuse her of starting a death cult and that this accusation, if I were to have made it, would have been false. But I don't think I made any such accusation, and I apologize if it seemed that way. I believe Nobody In Particular is being told things by "Christ Michael" or believes she is, and I believe that she believes and may very well be in "service" to him and his agenda, without even considering how dangerous it might be.

Please don't say such harsh things about me like that, its really hurtful and offensive. Please don't report my posts. The information about her was publically stated by her on GLP.

I cannot believe no one else can see you doing this shit.

I think that the message of Satanism has always been that you are a God or can attain to be Gods. The word used in that Psalm seems to mean judges or sovereigns.




To me what is in question is how we define God, in a fallen sinful state tied currently to this physical realm (flesh) we truly have no concept of what or who God is other than His Word.

But to debate your former point regarding the psalm, one must first consider and then answer the following scripture:


Matt 5:9 "Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called sons of God.

Luke 20:36 for they cannot even die anymore, because they are like angels, and are sons of God, being sons of the resurrection.

Rom 8:14 For all who are being led by the Spirit of God, these are sons of God.

Rom 8:19 For the anxious longing of the creation waits eagerly for the revealing of the sons of God.

Rom 9:26 "AND IT SHALL BE THAT IN THE PLACE WHERE IT WAS SAID TO THEM, 'YOU ARE NOT MY PEOPLE,' THERE THEY SHALL BE CALLED SONS OF THE LIVING GOD."

Gal 4:6 Because you are sons, God has sent forth the Spirit of His Son into our hearts, crying, "Abba! Father!"

These beliefs become especially dangerous when they seem to suggest things like the benefit of "losing your body", how it would help to "board a space ship and be put to sleep", or how "fire and burning is good and it is what you should seek to attain to" or similar offers of things people should do which may be harmful.

The entities presenting these ideas may actually believe them or may not believe them and are deliberately deceptive, but even if they believe what they claim it doesn't mean anything they say is true or good.

It is most important pay attention to when they are instructing people to do things like board spaceships or "lose your bodies" or suggesting other things on the basis of faith that may be dangerous to human beings.

When any "leap of faith" is suggested, one should pay attention to all the potential risks involved and the negative possibilities, and it might be best to avoid taking any "leaps of faith" when asked and having the choice not to.

Think about the mass suicides with the Heaven's Gate group. That is just one example of how fanatic beliefs possibly inspired by entities claiming to be benevolent can lead to terrible results.

It becomes even more dangerous if the agenda is mixed with actual physical plans to lead people into potential traps while claiming these traps might "save them" or that it is "the only way to survive" and other things like that.

Lester, what you say is true. For those stuck in organized Christianity ANSWER THIS ONE, how do billions who never heard the Name JESUS become BORN AGAIN. Can a muslim become born again, a buddhist, aaaaaa whatever? YES. One becomes BORN AGAIN IN SPIRIT and it matters NOT the religion or culture one was raised in. It means coming out of ungodly behaviors and walking a lighted path, and it can happen to anyone, anywhere. What is wrong with Christianity, as believed, is that you all think YOU are the only ones who can do this, be born again, and then many (not all) of you walk all over others your whole rest of your live, and are NOT thus born again of the Spirit you don't understand.

This false christian belief system, is currently used to cause "Christians" to support Israel, and these terrible wars by Israel controlling the United States, in the Middle East. Does not the bible suggest the antichrist comes out of the middle east, it is ISRAEL and the Khazar thugs that run this world, from there, Rome and London.

I have witnessed enough ugly "born again" shit on this planet, to have my fill long ago. Yea ones think you can go to church, believe ON Jesus, and you have yet to figure out that GOD (or JESUS, Christ Michael, and the Father) is within YOU. And you are to grow your soul in goodness. Your SOUL is YOUR MIND, and so many when they become Christians, as in the corporate structures forget all about their MIND and growing it knowledge and goodness.

There is that misunderstood story of Adam and Eve eating of the Tree of Knowledge and I guess they went to hell for it. YOU ARE TO EAT of that Tree, and grow your MIND and for many, it seems mind growth just stops when they start going to church.

I am not putting down real christians here, which can come from any faith, and may not have ever heard the Name Jesus. They have heard the name GOD however. That we are still in this horrid wars in the Middle EAst, and have killed over 20 million people now in Iraq and Afghanistan alone, is proof positive that most who claim in this country alone to be Christians, have failed, utterly failed, in being that Light of God. You will not come into joint sovereignty and kick the beast out of our government. You are so believing in Jesus the WrONG way you do not see your light. It remains hidden.

I just recently witnessed such a perfect example of what I have seen over and over and over.

A really Godly person started a little coffee Knitting group where I live, our of her sincere inner desire to serve during her last days of life. She passed recently, and many of these attending this group are "born again" Christians. And UGLY as shit. Now this lady that passed was wondrous, a very OLD soul and mature. I watched her in amazement each week how she went about being the God Within. But she did not like organized religion and neither did her best friend. Well after she passed we were together on the usual day, and the discussion turned to DID SHE GET SAVED?
Yes about a million years ago probably.

Well knowing this ones thinking themselves "saved" I made a simple eulogy to this marvelous woman and her light. (who spent also a good part of her life singing great music such as that by Handel) Well, one of these "righteous ones" attending, said it mattered not how brilliant the light shown, if she didn't accept Jesus as her Lord and Savior, she was thus in HELL. You cannot not believe the affect this statement had on that little group. Especially the good friend. her face, oh my. This less than enlightened soul, is a Baptist. And when she utters these words, I have seen similar in her before, her eyes get small, beady and dark. It's as if "satan" just moved into her for the occasion. The window to the soul is in the eyes, and there was never better proof of this than the light in the eyes of this lovely person that passed, and the darkness in the eyes in this small "Christian" soul.

This is so typical of so many "pious" Christians. I have been sent to HELL by them my whole life and I cannot long stand to be in these churches. As part of my research into religion on this world, I was going to lots of various local churches and even seeing the mainstream ones going the way of this horrid evangelical movement of the THUGS. I continue to get sent to Hell by them here too. HELL is HavingEverLastingLife, Fire is Firey Intelligence Reverberating Eternally. Yes that beloved lady of LIGHT is in "hell fire" and my friends, the satanic folks changed "hellfire" into something of the devil, when it's something you should ATTAIN. By your works given with LOVE from the heart. Didn't the bible say someplace correctly, that Satan is the master of LIES. YOU WANT HELLFIRE for yourselves!!!!!!!!!! It is not a ugly place.

HELLFIRE is HOT, because the more love and growth, the higher the vibration of soul (and matter), "heaven" gets hotter and hotter in fact as the vibrations increased. A being form the Central Universe is incredibly "hot".

COLD is the symptom of Darkness, not HEAT. This Baptist lady showed her COLD and then some.

PONDER the ABOVE.


Here are some quotes of interest:


"There is that misunderstood story of Adam and Eve eating of the Tree of Knowledge and I guess they went to hell for it. YOU ARE TO EAT of that Tree."

"And UGLY as shit."

"It's as if "satan" just moved into her for the occasion. The window to the soul is in the eyes, and there was never better proof of this than the light in the eyes of this lovely person that passed, and the darkness in the eyes in this small "Christian" soul. "

"This is so typical of so many "pious" Christians. I have been sent to HELL by them my whole life and I cannot long stand to be in these churches."

"this horrid evangelical movement of the THUGS. I continue to get sent to Hell by them here too. HELL is HavingEverLastingLife"

"Fire is Firey Intelligence Reverberating Eternally."

"Yes that beloved lady of LIGHT is in "hell fire" and my friends, the satanic folks changed "hellfire" into something of the devil, when it's something you should ATTAIN."


"By your works given with LOVE from the heart. Didn't the bible say someplace correctly, that Satan is the master of LIES. YOU WANT HELLFIRE for yourselves!!!!!!!!!! It is not a ugly place."

"HELLFIRE is HOT, because the more love and growth, the higher the vibration of soul (and matter), "heaven" gets hotter and hotter in fact as the vibrations increased. A being form the Central Universe is incredibly "hot"."

"COLD is the symptom of Darkness, not HEAT. This Baptist lady showed her COLD and then some."

"PONDER the ABOVE."

CLEAR comparison. CLEAR attempt to link her beliefs to suicide cults.

I cannot believe no one else can see you doing this shit.



Have you not considered the possibility that maybe YOU are the problem?