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~ WAKE UP!!! The MYTH of Posse Comitatus...!! ~

 
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~ WAKE UP!!! The MYTH of Posse Comitatus...!! ~

~ From the article:

Homeland Defense

The Posse Comitatus Act was passed in an era when the threat to national security came primarily from the standing armies and navies of foreign powers. Today the equation for national defense and security has changed significantly. With the fall of the Soviet Union our attention has been diverted—from the threat of aggression by massed armies crossing the plains of Europe to the security of our own soil against biological or chemical terrorism. Rather than focusing on massed Russian intercontinental ballistic missiles as our most imminent threat, we are increasingly more aware of the destructive potential of new forms of asymmetric warfare. For instance, the U.S. Office of Technology Assessment states that 100 kilograms of dry powdered anthrax released under ideal meteorological conditions could kill up to three million people in a city the size of Washington, DC.[11] The chemical warfare attacks carried out by Japanese terrorists in the subways of Tokyo during the 1990s heightened our sense of vulnerability. The Oklahoma City bombing and the unsuccessful attempt to topple the World Trade Center have our domestic security planners looking inward for threats against the soil of the United States from small but technologically advanced threats of highly motivated terrorists. What legal bar does the Posse Comitatus Act present today to using the military to prevent or respond to a biological or chemical attack on the soil of the United States? In view of the erosion of the Posse Comitatus Act in the past 20 years, the answer is “not much.”

The erosion of the Posse Comitatus Act through Congressional legislation and executive policy has left a hollow shell in place of a law that formerly was a real limitation on the military’s role in civilian law enforcement and security issues. The plethora of constitutional and statutory exceptions to the act provides the executive branch with a menu of options under which it can justify the use of military forces to combat domestic terrorism. Whether an act of terrorism is classified as a civil disturbance under 10 U.S.C., 331–334, or whether the president relies upon constitutional power to preserve federal functions, it is difficult to think of a domestic terrorism scenario of sizable scale under which the use of the military could not be lawfully justified in view of the act’s erosion. The act is no longer a realistic bar to direct military involvement in counterterrorism planning and operations. It is a low legal hurdle that can be easily cleared through invocation of the appropriate legal justification, either before or after the fact.[12]

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~ You may also be interested in seeing for yourselves the Rand Corporation's 'take' on Posse Comitatus:

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[link to www.rand.org]
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CONgress has eroded Posse Comitatus over the years, but with the John Warner Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2007 [link to www.govtrack.us] & specifically Section 1076 "Use Of The Armed Forces In Major Public Emergencies":

"(1) IN GENERAL- Section 333 of title 10, United States Code, is amended to read as follows:

Sec. 333. Major public emergencies; interference with State and Federal law

(a) Use of Armed Forces in Major Public Emergencies- (1) The President may employ the armed forces, including the National Guard in Federal service, to--

(A) restore public order and enforce the laws of the United States when, as a result of a natural disaster, epidemic, or other serious public health emergency, terrorist attack or incident, or other condition in any State or possession of the United States, the President determines that--

(i) domestic violence has occurred to such an extent that the constituted authorities of the State or possession are incapable of maintaining public order; and

(ii) such violence results in a condition described in paragraph (2); or

(B) suppress, in a State, any insurrection, domestic violence, unlawful combination, or conspiracy if such insurrection, violation, combination, or conspiracy results in a condition described in paragraph (2).

(2) A condition described in this paragraph is a condition that--

(A) so hinders the execution of the laws of a State or possession, as applicable, and of the United States within that State or possession, that any part or class of its people is deprived of a right, privilege, immunity, or protection named in the Constitution and secured by law, and the constituted authorities of that State or possession are unable, fail, or refuse to protect that right, privilege, or immunity, or to give that protection; or

(B) opposes or obstructs the execution of the laws of the United States or impedes the course of justice under those laws."

[link to www.govtrack.us]

What was left of it was killed.

They repealed that section (1076) with H.R. 4986:

National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2008...

But these days precedent takes um... precedent (Katrina).

Posse Comitatus means nada today.
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CONgress has eroded Posse Comitatus over the years, but with the John Warner Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2007 [link to www.govtrack.us] & specifically Section 1076 "Use Of The Armed Forces In Major Public Emergencies":

"(1) IN GENERAL- Section 333 of title 10, United States Code, is amended to read as follows:

Sec. 333. Major public emergencies; interference with State and Federal law

(a) Use of Armed Forces in Major Public Emergencies- (1) The President may employ the armed forces, including the National Guard in Federal service, to--

(A) restore public order and enforce the laws of the United States when, as a result of a natural disaster, epidemic, or other serious public health emergency, terrorist attack or incident, or other condition in any State or possession of the United States, the President determines that--

(i) domestic violence has occurred to such an extent that the constituted authorities of the State or possession are incapable of maintaining public order; and

(ii) such violence results in a condition described in paragraph (2); or

(B) suppress, in a State, any insurrection, domestic violence, unlawful combination, or conspiracy if such insurrection, violation, combination, or conspiracy results in a condition described in paragraph (2).

(2) A condition described in this paragraph is a condition that--

(A) so hinders the execution of the laws of a State or possession, as applicable, and of the United States within that State or possession, that any part or class of its people is deprived of a right, privilege, immunity, or protection named in the Constitution and secured by law, and the constituted authorities of that State or possession are unable, fail, or refuse to protect that right, privilege, or immunity, or to give that protection; or

(B) opposes or obstructs the execution of the laws of the United States or impedes the course of justice under those laws."

[link to www.govtrack.us]

What was left of it was killed.

They repealed that section (1076) with H.R. 4986:

National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2008...

But these days precedent takes um... precedent (Katrina).

Posse Comitatus means nada today.
 Quoting: ScrumpTheTexan


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...always wanted my very own Bradley.

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~ And YOU sir, win the prize!! =)

hf

~ Sadly, however, I cannot afford the postage to mail this freshly-painted Bradley to you... lol ;)
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...always wanted my very own Bradley.

grumpy2
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~ Awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww DON'T be like that Scrumpers!! Here... here's one I pry CAN afford to mail you!! I'm googling 'Don't Mess With Texas!' decals right now!!! =)

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~ And YOU sir, win the prize!! =)

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...always wanted my very own Bradley.

grumpy2
 Quoting: ScrumpTheTexan

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Deal!

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I have a short version of posse comitatus.

"knock, knock. Who is it? It is the U.S. military"


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