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May 21, 2011 is Judgment Day, The Rapture, and The End Of All Hope.

 
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But what if it's not Ice. Then what ?
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Ice, I would like to know that too.

As often as this growing group must communicate, SURELY it has been brought up by someone at this point that just MAYBE a "back-up" plan might need to be discussed.

And this time, "I made a slight mathematical error" by Camping isn't going to cut it with many.
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only the Father knows
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Yes. Those were Jesus Christ's own words.

I will believe HIM over Harold Camping.
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Do you know how much money these people have spent on Billboards and painting these vehicles they run around in ?

Do you know how much money it cost MONTHLY for these billboards?

DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE COULD HAVE BEEN FED WITH THAT MONEY??

Do you know how many people could be helped with this wasted money????? Do you know how many people will be even more turned off with Christians after the 21st.???

Its a disgrace!!!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1279576


Yes, it IS.

And what bothers me the most is just how many of these followers are turning over everything they own to Camping's cause.

You think he'll even open the door on May 22nd if one stops by and asks for a couple of bucks for bread and milk?

WHY is he even accepting this money anyway? Doesn't he plan on going with everyone else?
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This topic makes me so angry I'm going to sit here and respond to every idiot comment made.
 Quoting: Miggy


Good luck, you'll be here forever. These idiots with their cut and paste bible quote battles amuse even me.

Is he willing to give back the MILLIONS of dollars to his followers so they can get back to life?
 Quoting: Miggy


Why do you think this solar cult was invented? For MONEY, POWER and SOCIAL CONTROL. Like every other "Christian leader" either the figurehead or their handlers/hidden masters are in this for the TAX FREE dollars and social control. And I'm not talking about the "false prophet" types on TV-all of the so called "true Christian" leaders have their strings pulled by these same hidden masters

As I've said before, for ALL of our sakes I hope it occurs because it's going to be pure HELL for most Christians who attempt to spread the love of Christ in an intelligent manner.
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This like 100% of any predictions will fail.

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"(Harold) Camping, 88, has scrutinized the Bible for almost 70 years and says he has developed a mathematical system to interpret prophecies hidden within the Good Book. One night a few years ago, Camping, a civil engineer by trade, crunched the numbers and was stunned at what he'd found: The world will end May 21, 2011.

"On Sept. 6, 1994, dozens of Camping's believers gathered inside Alameda's Veterans Memorial Building to await the return of Christ, an event Camping had promised for two years. Followers dressed children in their Sunday best and held Bibles open-faced toward heaven.

But the world did not end. Camping allowed that he may have made a mathematical error. He spent the next decade running new calculations, as well as overseeing a media company that has grown significantly in size and reach."


There's a freakin' billboard in my area with this date. sheesh.
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81 days 17:22:04


not my job to defend May 21st 2011

it's my job to warn you
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Ice, can you please explain the difference in the two?

Are you not hurting our ultimate goal of informing others that Christ could come back any second?

What happens if he comes back tomorrow night?

Do you see how that might potentially harm plenty of people who felt they had another 81 days to "deal" with it?
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My parents happen to be very devout Christians (Religious nutcases, my husband calls them), but despite that they don't believe a word of what this old guy is saying.
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Thankfully, neither do the majority of the rest of us who worship Christ.
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81 days 17:22:04


not my job to defend May 21st 2011

it's my job to warn you
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Ice, can you please explain the difference in the two?

Are you not hurting our ultimate goal of informing others that Christ could come back any second?

What happens if he comes back tomorrow night?

Do you see how that might potentially harm plenty of people who felt they had another 81 days to "deal" with it?
 Quoting: Miggy


hey

I did the study as given in detail by Harold Camping

I see his timeline and the math behind it

I am watching and looking at May 21st

I have posted the info for anyone to look at which few have and very few have brought forth concerns about the study other than pointing at the failure and what will I do when I am still here on May 22nd.

The Bible is a open book for all and your faith and your walk belong to you.

My faith is based on Christ and His cross and no date lies in the standing. I see the teaching but it has no effect on my faith. I see the truth of the teaching but it is a teaching based on the understanding of man.

If people take pleasure in the fact that on May 22nd I am stilling posting on GLP so be it. I will take no pleasure in the fact that I am gone on May 21st and you are still posting on GLP on May 22nd.

God Bless


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What's even funnier than this stupid prediction is the notion that this is some rogue sect of Christianity that is in no way affiliated with the "true" Christians.

Bottom line, you're controlled by the same financial and spiritual pyramid scheme by the same hidden masters.

Don't feel special.
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they really believe this
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So did those guys who bought the new Nikes, and went to sleep- thinking Halle Bop comet was going to swoop down to get them.

So did all the followers of Jim Jones.

What Harold Camping is doing, in my mind, is just as evil.
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Here ya go..twist it how you like but its all there in black and white....NO rapture till AFTER the FIRST ressurection....so if what you are saying is TRUE Ice..then the FIRST ressurection PLUS the return of Jesus MUSt happen on the 21st may...correct??

And PLEASE readt it..carefully this time.

1st Thessalonians 4:15-17
15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain (SURVIVE)unto the coming of the Lord shall not preceed (GO BEFORE) them which are asleep.
16 For the Lord himself shall descend with a shout, with the voice of an arch angel, and with the trump of God: and (THEN)the dead will rise first:(THE RESSURECTION OF THE JUST!)
17 Then we which are alive and remain (THE SURVIVORS)shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air, and so we shall ever be with the Lord.

There are two main things I would like you to notice about this verse. First ....that the dead in Christ rise first. This is important because, there is plenty of scripture that speaks of the resurrection of the just happening at the second coming, and we need to realize that the living will not precede the dead but will be caught up after them. So if the resurrection of the just is post trib then the rapture would be as well.

Secondly I will give you the timing of this event that all agree is the rapture.

Verse 15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not preceed (HAPPEN BEFORE) them which are asleep.

The rapture takes place at the coming of the Lord, which we have already shown is after the tribulation. By the way, some thing for you to notice if a pretrib teacher ever teaches on the rapture they will skip verse 15 and quote verse 16 and 17 only. Is this open deception or an over sight? I will let you decide.
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How come everyone is IGNORING this??

Could it be because it is TRUTH???
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1304951

Thats right Ice old boy//YOU just keep ignoring this..perhaps it will go away....
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Ice = 'unwise virgin'

Believed in Christ...but falied to prepare for the DELAY!
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Uh, you all do realize this Harold idiot has said this stuff before and been wrong right?

Good grief you christians are so deceived.
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Hopefully the rapture for ice is when may 21st comes and goes and his thinking ascends.
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Uh, you all do realize this Harold idiot has said this stuff before and been wrong right?

Good grief you christians are so deceived.
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yep

1994
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Here ya go..twist it how you like but its all there in black and white....NO rapture till AFTER the FIRST ressurection....so if what you are saying is TRUE Ice..then the FIRST ressurection PLUS the return of Jesus MUSt happen on the 21st may...correct??

And PLEASE readt it..carefully this time.

1st Thessalonians 4:15-17
15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain (SURVIVE)unto the coming of the Lord shall not preceed (GO BEFORE) them which are asleep.
16 For the Lord himself shall descend with a shout, with the voice of an arch angel, and with the trump of God: and (THEN)the dead will rise first:(THE RESSURECTION OF THE JUST!)
17 Then we which are alive and remain (THE SURVIVORS)shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air, and so we shall ever be with the Lord.

There are two main things I would like you to notice about this verse. First ....that the dead in Christ rise first. This is important because, there is plenty of scripture that speaks of the resurrection of the just happening at the second coming, and we need to realize that the living will not precede the dead but will be caught up after them. So if the resurrection of the just is post trib then the rapture would be as well.

Secondly I will give you the timing of this event that all agree is the rapture.

Verse 15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not preceed (HAPPEN BEFORE) them which are asleep.

The rapture takes place at the coming of the Lord, which we have already shown is after the tribulation. By the way, some thing for you to notice if a pretrib teacher ever teaches on the rapture they will skip verse 15 and quote verse 16 and 17 only. Is this open deception or an over sight? I will let you decide.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1304951


How come everyone is IGNORING this??

Could it be because it is TRUTH???
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1304951

Thats right Ice old boy//YOU just keep ignoring this..perhaps it will go away....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1304951



thanks for the concern

truth

I live a simple daily life

I enjoy my faith and my family

I live in the moment and May will take care of May and it will be what it will be



if you think you have you walk lined out and understood I am happy for you
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they really believe this
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So did those guys who bought the new Nikes, and went to sleep- thinking Halle Bop comet was going to swoop down to get them.

So did all the followers of Jim Jones.

What Harold Camping is doing, in my mind, is just as evil.
 Quoting: Miggy


really

I think that might be a little rough

but you can think what you want
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Here ya go..twist it how you like but its all there in black and white....NO rapture till AFTER the FIRST ressurection....so if what you are saying is TRUE Ice..then the FIRST ressurection PLUS the return of Jesus MUSt happen on the 21st may...correct??

And PLEASE readt it..carefully this time.

1st Thessalonians 4:15-17
15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain (SURVIVE)unto the coming of the Lord shall not preceed (GO BEFORE) them which are asleep.
16 For the Lord himself shall descend with a shout, with the voice of an arch angel, and with the trump of God: and (THEN)the dead will rise first:(THE RESSURECTION OF THE JUST!)
17 Then we which are alive and remain (THE SURVIVORS)shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air, and so we shall ever be with the Lord.

There are two main things I would like you to notice about this verse. First ....that the dead in Christ rise first. This is important because, there is plenty of scripture that speaks of the resurrection of the just happening at the second coming, and we need to realize that the living will not precede the dead but will be caught up after them. So if the resurrection of the just is post trib then the rapture would be as well.

Secondly I will give you the timing of this event that all agree is the rapture.

Verse 15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not preceed (HAPPEN BEFORE) them which are asleep.

The rapture takes place at the coming of the Lord, which we have already shown is after the tribulation. By the way, some thing for you to notice if a pretrib teacher ever teaches on the rapture they will skip verse 15 and quote verse 16 and 17 only. Is this open deception or an over sight? I will let you decide.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1304951


How come everyone is IGNORING this??

Could it be because it is TRUTH???
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1304951

Thats right Ice old boy//YOU just keep ignoring this..perhaps it will go away....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1304951



thanks for the concern

truth

I live a simple daily life

I enjoy my faith and my family

I live in the moment and May will take care of May and it will be what it will be



if you think you have you walk lined out and understood I am happy for you
 Quoting: Ice



Well..there ya have it folks..ICE TOTALLY IGNORES SCRIPTURE!!!

Talk about a SIDE step..he didnt even bother address any part of it...instead..he just told me more or less that I was DOOMED ecause of what HE WANTS to believe.

Hearing only what they WANT to hear...and knowing ONLY what they heard...is RIGHT!

ICE..you have JUST BLOWN it TOTALLY mate.
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1st Thessalonians 4:15-17
15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain (SURVIVE)unto the coming of the Lord shall not preceed (GO BEFORE) them which are asleep.
16 For the Lord himself shall descend with a shout, with the voice of an arch angel, and with the trump of God: and (THEN)the dead will rise first:(THE RESSURECTION OF THE JUST!)
17 Then we which are alive and remain (THE SURVIVORS)shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air, and so we shall ever be with the Lord.

There are two main things I would like you to notice about this verse. First ....that the dead in Christ rise first. This is important because, there is plenty of scripture that speaks of the resurrection of the just happening at the second coming, and we need to realize that the living will not precede the dead but will be caught up after them. So if the resurrection of the just is post trib then the rapture would be as well.




I agree 100% with all that you just said !

ice






Secondly I will give you the timing of this event that all agree is the rapture.

Verse 15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not preceed (HAPPEN BEFORE) them which are asleep.

The rapture takes place at the coming of the Lord, which we have already shown is after the tribulation. By the way, some thing for you to notice if a pretrib teacher ever teaches on the rapture they will skip verse 15 and quote verse 16 and 17 only. Is this open deception or an over sight? I will let you decide.






and I agree with that



ice



what starts and stops the tribulation at your house ?
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If people take pleasure in the fact that on May 22nd I am stilling posting on GLP so be it. I will take no pleasure in the fact that I am gone on May 21st and you are still posting on GLP on May 22nd.

God Bless


ice
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Ice, I have already suggested that I trust you to be an honest believer of Christ as our Lord.

I am also.

Just because you believe the Rapture is going to happen on a specific date and I believe it's wrong to make such assumptions DOESN'T mean that if you are indeed RIGHT, I won't be going on that date as well.

In Christ, Miggy
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And Ice can we stone you to DEATH when none of this comes true? Oh I forgot this is 2011CE not 2011BC *puts rocks away*..
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"(Harold) Camping, 88, has scrutinized the Bible for almost 70 years and says he has developed a mathematical system to interpret prophecies hidden within the Good Book. One night a few years ago, Camping, a civil engineer by trade, crunched the numbers and was stunned at what he'd found: The world will end May 21, 2011.

"On Sept. 6, 1994, dozens of Camping's believers gathered inside Alameda's Veterans Memorial Building to await the return of Christ, an event Camping had promised for two years. Followers dressed children in their Sunday best and held Bibles open-faced toward heaven.

But the world did not end. Camping allowed that he may have made a mathematical error. He spent the next decade running new calculations, as well as overseeing a media company that has grown significantly in size and reach."


There's a freakin' billboard in my area with this date. sheesh.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1005606


wall
 Quoting: Miggy


:)

Keep fighting the good fight, Miggy. I'm not religious or spiritual but I identify with your tenacity/irritation.

Me, I'm off to Wikipedia this Harold Camping guy. This is too interesting to not read about...
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Don't know if this has been posted yet but I found it on Wikipedia's "2011 End Times"-page. I guess you're free to, uh...judge for yourself.

This is camping's "equation":

1.According to Camping, the number five equals "atonement", the number ten equals "completeness", and the number seventeen equals "heaven".
2.Christ is said to have hung on the cross on April 1, 33 AD. The time between April 1, 33 AD and April 1, 2011 is 1,978 years.
3.If 1,978 is multiplied by 365.2422 days (the number of days in a solar year, not to be confused with the lunar year), the result is 722,449.
4.The time between April 1 and May 21st is 51 days.
5.51 added to 722,449 is 722,500.
6.(5 x 10 x 17)2 or (atonement x completeness x heaven)2 also equals 722,500.
Thus, Camping concludes that 5 x 10 x 17 is telling us a "story from the time Christ made payment for our sins until we're completely saved."


...And people are dumping their hard-earned cash in support of this. Unbelievably disturbing.

It's apparently amazing what one man can do with his own radio show and some creative arithmetic.
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WHY is he even accepting this money anyway? Doesn't he plan on going with everyone else?
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+1000
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1st Thessalonians 4:15-17
15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain (SURVIVE)unto the coming of the Lord shall not preceed (GO BEFORE) them which are asleep.
16 For the Lord himself shall descend with a shout, with the voice of an arch angel, and with the trump of God: and (THEN)the dead will rise first:(THE RESSURECTION OF THE JUST!)
17 Then we which are alive and remain (THE SURVIVORS)shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air, and so we shall ever be with the Lord.

There are two main things I would like you to notice about this verse. First ....that the dead in Christ rise first. This is important because, there is plenty of scripture that speaks of the resurrection of the just happening at the second coming, and we need to realize that the living will not precede the dead but will be caught up after them. So if the resurrection of the just is post trib then the rapture would be as well.




I agree 100% with all that you just said !

ice






Secondly I will give you the timing of this event that all agree is the rapture.

Verse 15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not preceed (HAPPEN BEFORE) them which are asleep.

The rapture takes place at the coming of the Lord, which we have already shown is after the tribulation. By the way, some thing for you to notice if a pretrib teacher ever teaches on the rapture they will skip verse 15 and quote verse 16 and 17 only. Is this open deception or an over sight? I will let you decide.






and I agree with that



ice



what starts and stops the tribulation at your house ?
 Quoting: Ice


Thank you for answering...at LAST...

Which raises a question.

If you think the rapture is going to happen on may 21st..which you DO..then going by THIS scripture..the first ressurection is also about to happen as well...and according to THIS scripture..it all happens at the END of the tribulation.

So..YOU and camping both agree..that the tribulation actually ENDS on may 21st..because that is when the rapture and ressurection happens...

Correct?
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they really believe this
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So did those guys who bought the new Nikes, and went to sleep- thinking Halle Bop comet was going to swoop down to get them.

So did all the followers of Jim Jones.

What Harold Camping is doing, in my mind, is just as evil.
 Quoting: Miggy


really

I think that might be a little rough

but you can think what you want
 Quoting: Ice


miggy is correct -- camping is a false prophet, and those who follow his teachings are a cult. I don't believe they will commit suicide however after May 21, although a few might.

camping has a lot more problems/red flags with his teachings than just his eschatology. he's way off, Ice.

love, rb
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There is always hope.
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Ice = 'unwise virgin'

Believed in Christ...but falied to prepare for the DELAY!
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May 21, 2011 is Judgment Day, The Rapture, and The End Of All Hope. October 21, 2011 is The End

of the World by fire. "Examine yourselves, whether you be in the faith" (II Cor. 13:5)


one day closer


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If you miss the day ? It means your profetic visions are false ....?
that you are drinking from the harlots cup of sin ?


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bring it on ! (the rapture )

or you will end oraly impaled in the satanic blue penis of GLP failed predictions..

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