I am an ex-Christian. I lost faith a few months ago. I'm open to question, suggestion and even convincing.

You are supposed to be using your own intuition, as to what feels right for you. You figure out what's right by your seeking to know It better, whatever name you give It. God/Source/Great Spirit/Creator.......................

It isn't suppose to be easy. Only you know your truth and that truth only pertains to you, not the rest of the world. Anyone leading you around by hand, isn't doing you any favors. All religions and spiritual beliefs have validity to someone. They are all interpretations by humans. bunch of sources at mamhere.com religious, channeling, spiritual, and more. take your pick, Free hope for anyone. Get your truck and haul a load of hope home.

Mam

Actually, I do know how it was written, and you do not.

It was ripped off from other documents!

All the Psalms are from other documents. They're about pagan gods, and were stolen and put into the bible as if they were owned by the collators of the bible.

The Epic of Gilgamesh became the story of Noah (which is not even the original name!).

It's well known by scholars that Matthew didn't write Matthew. Mark didn't write Mark. Etc. and et. al.

Furthermore, Saul-who-changed-his-name-to-Paul was a major fraud. He totally contradicts Jesus all over the place, and people take Paul's words over Jesus because they're more palatable!

The bible is a PROPAGANDA TOOL. When the walls of Jericho fell inwards, they claimed their God did it. What's that? Nowdays, we would call that what it actually is: PROPAGANDA.

If I wrote a book today that said I prophesied 9-11 and it was done by my God... and 5k years from now they found proof of the twin towers, and found my book... they would had little reason to believe otherwise, especially if I conveniently dated it prior to 9-11.

So the Jews write a book claiming their god is responsible for everything, and that all of their multitudes of genocides were "commanded by god" and 2k years later, you are all eating it up.

PROPAGANDA SUCCESS!

Just calling a spade, a spade.

Well, you don't choose Jesus, or find Jesus, He choses you.

No one has a choice in this.

There must come offences...
There must be a falling away...
There must be a taking out of the way...
There must be a revealing...

We are are simply partaking in the fulfillment of everything which was from the beginning. The end was called from the beginning. The author openly shares the story with the reader. All the characters are represented. And so the they perform their role. Does the author know how the story ends?

Of course, he is the author.

What was the falling out about OP ???

This is true, but it's nice to keep in mind that history is almost always second hand. My friend, a bio-tech engineer, gave me this interesting speech once.

He said, "I can't trust history 100%, whereas I trust mathematics 100%. If I needed to prove Pi, I could draw a circle and work it out right in front of you at any time. I can't do that with history. I'm not saying since it can't be directly proven it must be false. Just bear in mind that it actually possesses a possibility of being incorrect more so than mathematics."

Another interesting lecture was, "There's a stop sign at the end of my street".

It's similar, but different. For example, I could tell you there is a stop sign at the end of my street. However this doesn't mean that it is there. While I was gone, it could have been removed. Simple stuff like that.

This is where I disagree completely. It's not true love if you don't chose to love. That's pretty plain and simple.

Doing something because you're told to is not faith.

Not true .

Well that didn't take long. lol

God gives free will. Humans proclaim otherwise.

There may or may not be consequences, but there is still free will to accept or reject.

A culmination of events. Mainly just realizations. A few events. It's a long story. xD

Actually THERE IS ZERO EVIDENCE that Jesus Christ, as is known to the Christians existed!

[link to www.jesusneverexisted.com]

PLEASE READ THIS BEFORE YOU IMPRESS YOUR POOR INNOCENT CHILDREN WITH THIS CRAZY RELIGION THAT CREATES NOTHING BUT MORE IGNORANCE AND DESTRUCTION!

One problem: If there were historical proof of Jesus it actually would NOT be hidden, because NO ONE WANTS AN ETERNITY OF FIERY TORMENT.

"Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ." Colossians 2:8

How is this a problem with my statements? I think you quoted the wrong person.

Your post is so full of bullshit I don't know were to start.

Tell ya what, prove your one statement "All the Psalms are from other documents."

If you prove it, I'll donate 100 bucks to your charity of choice.

If you can't, you must admit you are a POS liar.

WE HAVE A WINNER!!!!!!!!!


You'll be fine OP, don't worry about it. It will work out and you will know, what is real and what is BS. Don't rush it.

Thanks. ^^

Basically you were asked to make an imaginary friend you personal lord and savior because a woman made from a mans rib who was made from dirt ate an apple given to her by a talking snake....be glad you've done with it.

Well we all struggle with loss of faith so there is nothing to feel bad about . It sounds like you want help with your faith but I think we need more information as to the main reasons why you stopped believing .

Jesus didnt command he suggested op
Jesus never forced anyone to follow him and least of all out of fear

Immanuel loved first and taught later..they followed him because to know him was to love him
:hf

They go into others kinds of philosophies, which wouldn't be a good thing to debate with. They're intrinsically meant for debate anyway, so I don't think that'd be a good start.

If you're willing to move outside of the Bible, I'll listen. I'm open. :3

The Bible has never supported such an idea, that the lost will suffer forever. This is the invention of the Roman Catholic system which is clearly described in Daniel & Revelation as the antichrist power.

"And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death." Revelation 20:14. The lake of fire is a once-and-for-all destruction of sin, satan and his demons, and the wicked. It is what the Bible describes, a second death; a final death from which there is no return. Once you burn up, that's it, you are perished forever. No eternal suffering or burning in a place called hell. God is not of such a character as the Papacy makes Him out to be.

"Say unto them, As I live, saith the Lord GOD, I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked; but that the wicked turn from his way and live: turn ye, turn ye from your evil ways; for why will ye die, O house of Israel?" Ezekiel 33:11

I think that is a given. I was just disagreeing with the other poster's opinions. : P

tell me one single thing he said that was wrongor one single thing that he did that was wrong..

translation: IF ANYONE TRIES TO REASON WITH YOU, THEY ARE THE ENEMY. DON'T LISTEN TO THEM, LISTEN TO ME, I CAN SHOW YOU THE SAVIOR WHO GIVES YOU AN EVERLASTING ETERNAL PRESENT AFTER YOU GIVE YOUR ENTIRE LIFE TO MY ORGANIZATION. sound good?

Muscles


First you must learn the difference between an Israelite and a Jew (Judah). The bible says they are now different than any other human being. Its just that God chose them to reveal to the world his his laws, statutes etc so that God could use them to draw many to him. Actually God call them a stiffneck and gainsaying people who failed miserably at the task. So God chose a people who were not called his people to be his people by his Son Jesus who is the Christ. Not it is written " he that is a Jew is not one outwardly (or descended by heredity through Abraham) but he that is a Jew is one inwardly by faith in Jesus the Christ. So circumcision is also not outward but circumcision is of the heart. It is the heart God wants not your religion traditions and works for it is written again He came to his own (Jews)and his own received him not but as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the son's (children)of God, even to them that (simply) believed on his name. religion and bondage is of man. Salvation, life liberty and freedom is of God through his Son Jesus...who is the Christ.

just like you had no choice where you were born and you would not be a christian today if you had been born in china, right?

But, you can't really "know" or "affirm" that he did these things. Just because the Bible says so doesn't make it true. I could write a book on inverted spheres made of monkey wrenches and Gatorade - doesn't make it real!