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HONEST Question.....Are Lucifer and Satan, the same being

 
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It's probably a gnostic writer who will eventually tell you that Jesus didn't really do anything other than live in a manner which guarantees salvation and that the only thing you can do is do the same thing... Lots of people believe this line of thinking... Personally though, I don't.

I would 'guess' that the author doesn't speak about the virgin birth or purpose of the 'messiah' as a saviour of all of humanity... The writer probably assumes that we can all be Christ without having any personal affiliation with him. That's just my speculation after reading the '10,000 challenge'... I could be wrong...
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I do agree with we should try to walk in GODs statutes
but only Jesus's blood saved us from the grave.

I just thought it would be fun to make a thread out of it lol.

Oh BTW, their's a few people that believe you may be one of the witnesses. I guess all you're hard work into the scripture's speaks to their hearts. <3 <3 :)
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I doubt anyone thinks of me in that way LOL. I pretty much get rebuttal from just about everyone on this website and my posts are definitely not favored and usually ignored, even in 'christian' threads.

I have, however, been preparing myself for 'some thing' that I have felt God has called me for since I was very young and I feel it will all start when I turn 30. For about 5 years now I have been feeling drawn to a 40-day wilderness trek, a very dangerous thing.

My main passion is for straight up biblical-style church, if it could be called that. The type of church that the Romans feared to the point of extermination because it was so dangerous. I'm sure people already want to boil me in oil but I would like to get to the point where I'm openly confronting the darkness in the high places, and if I'm not being thrown into jail everywhere I go, then something must be very, very wrong... LOL
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Alot of people dont relize that the early christian's went as far as to live underground (literly) for a hundred years or so. I do not follow any christanity that the romans introduced to the world.
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Christians are doing in that way in Mainland China where Christianity is still illegal... 10 years ago my pastor smuggled himself into the mainland inside of a casket filled with Bibles and he was found by police and beat up pretty badly... The police were regularly raiding the 'churches' which were basically exactly as they were in ancient Turkey, people literally dug holes under their homes and connected them to each other LOL. Today things are much different, although Christianity is still illegal there, China is the 'most christian nation on earth', my pastor is the head of 3,000 non-denominational churches out there and now, most of the cops are born-again too! There is typically no worship service... The poor Chinese will pack into a little room and literally sit there in COMPLETE SILENCE for hours without end until all of a sudden the Holy Spirit shows up and the people begin speaking in tongues, healing eachother, prophecying, etc LOL...


I follow tha 7th day sabbath once I relized that was the only commandment GOD sanctified. Put his mark on. So I think people may have the mark of the beast all wrong. When you make a choice, its youre thougt (head) and actions (hand) that prove you're choice's.
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Shabbat is a great holiday. I'd be careful with any teachings put out by Seventh Day Adventists though... As far as the mark of the Beast, i'm still working on it myself, I have identified the Image of the Beast but I'm still working on the "Name" and the "Mark"... I have heard the thoughts and actions idea and believe it's plausible but I haven't taken any stand on what I believe it is yet...

I could be wrong though, but when you choose a religion it is by youre free will. Now if you take into fact that anyone will not be able to buy or sell thing, if they do not worship the beast.
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Well, today it is very hard not to buy or sell without rendering worship to the Beast but it's still possible... I tend to believe a literal mark will show itself but I won't bet on it. I believe there are 2 scenarios: 1) The mark is here now and is integrated into our economic system 2) The Mark will be part of a new economic system which will soon be pitched to the world as the only solution to all of our dillemmas. One thing to keep in mind is that economics, government, and law are all based on occult rites and rituals.

Think were the world is heading, one world, one religion. Anyone that dont accept it may be forced into a refugee type of deal or to go underground. That is just my thougts. I think people are going way to syfy with it and in return may be fooled. God is very simple and Blunt if you not what I mean lol, (not saying he's dumb)
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Organized religion is just a shroud for the true one-world religion which exists today, the trick is not to openly attack a religion, the trick is to build a religion/world-view which overshadows all other religions. You can still go to church but if you're paying your taxes, taking a loan from an incorporeal entity, filing for an LLC, etc, you are actually participating in religious rites which go directly against the beliefs you consciously claim to follow... We do have a one world religion today, it's the Image of the Beast...

About the witness thing, Its on hightowers thread on how to tell the witnesses or something like that.
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link me.
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Re: HONEST Question.....Are Lucifer and Satan, the same being
yes, that's the link. I haven't followed that thread for quite a long time. I didn't see any of those responses. LeastServant is a friend of mine here on GLP... One of only 3-4 LOL...
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I sure made a lot of friends on that thread, eh! ;)
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Re: HONEST Question.....Are Lucifer and Satan, the same being
Yeah they're the same...ten toes, ten fingers, one in the same.

He goes by many names depending his behavior and dark
tactics he's using.

If you're "nice"...you might be called "sweet".
Different names for different descriptions of oneself.

Lucifer is the "son of perdition"...he and the fallen
angels are toast...the rest of us get to make a decision
whether we follow Christ or not.

People will join Lucifer at the "Lake of Fire" to be sure.

Sad but true. But hey, not one speck of evil darkness...
it won't happen...we go into the third world age clean of any evil!!!

Yea! Never to have evil in our lives again.

Thank you Jesus!

peace
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I am not a 7th day advwhoever. I just keep the sabbath is all.
Its my sign to GOD, I love him and accept is will and not mine.
Sweet and simple, but I dont keep as many restriction's due to Jesus's teaching's.
Most people dont relize he was a political rebel as well.
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Afghan police: suicide bomber strikes Kabul hotel
KABUL, Afghanistan (AP) — At least one suicide bomber blew himself up late Tuesday inside a Western-style hotel, police said. A guest said he heard gunfire echoing throughout the building.

There was no immediate word on casualties. Streets leading to the Inter-Continental hotel were blocked. The hotel is situated on a hill overlooking the Afghan capital. The scene was dark as electricity was out at the hotel.

Azizullah, an Afghan police officer who uses only one name, told an Associated Press reporter at the scene that at least one bomber entered the hotel and detonated a vest of explosives. Another police officer, who would not disclose his name, said there were at least two suicide bombers.

[link to www.mail.com]
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One of the leading hotels in Kabul, the Afghan capital, is under attack, according to the head of the city's police criminal investigations.

"It's an attack on the Intercontinental Hotel. There are several gunmen shooting," Mohammad Zahir, the criminal investigations chief, said late on Tuesday.

He said "a number" of police officers had been wounded.


[link to english.aljazeera.net]
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I dont know if you go to the pinned threads or not but thought I share. It is happening now.
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Re: HONEST Question.....Are Lucifer and Satan, the same being
According to early 20th century spiritual research by Rudolf Steiner(anthroposophy)there is this unholy Trinity of evil, as a mirrorimage of the the Holy Trinity, comprising of the Asuras on the top, inspired by the anti-Sun demon Sorath and below the Asuras come the Ahrimanic forces and below that the Luciferic forces.

The Asuras belong to a higher order of a fallen angelic hierarchy and they stand for the ultimate annihilation of mankind, but to a lesser degree drugabuse, sex orgies and meaningless violence and an overpowering sense of lack of meaningful purpose in life and nihilism.

Sorath apparently belongs to an older order of cosmic creation and wants to expunge the very existence of the tenth hierarchy, namely mankind, the hierarchy of free will and unconditional love.
Sorath can also be regarded as the true anti-Christfigure, whereas the incarnation of Ahriman would be like an assistent of Sorath and is expected to emerge as a powerful despot in our time, initially regarded as a benefactor of mankind, till proven otherwise.

The Ahriman forces represent the energies of contraction, materialization, reductionist, materialistic philosophy on life and non spirituality, demonic black magic rituals, technology, digital virtual reality, power manipulation and physical domination, the father of lies and keeps the human spirit emprisoned withinin the five senses of the body. Also associated with the concept of Satan.

The Luciferic forces represent the energies of dispersing radiation,rules over the spiritual realms, promotes spiritual expansion at the cost of physical reality, dreamworlds in which one gets lost,promoting a false sense of oneness, in which personal and global issues remain unresolved,fantasies in general, art inspiration, the quality of beauty and the power of the intellect, promoting pride,a fierce temper and loss of empathy and indifference towards earthly existence and lack of responsibility and solidarity towards fellowman . Lucifer is associated with the concept ofDiabolos or the Devil, a fiery red figure.

Lucifer as an angelic being apparently incarnated in ancient China, round 3000 B.C. and the power of Lucifer is waning in our time, whereas the power of Ahriman is becoming far more prominent in our time.

The Christ incarnation, merging with Master Jesus (born around 7 B.C.) during the baptism in the river Jordan by John the Baptist, represents the middle of the road of the three important incarnations concerning our spiritual development, the Christ figure balancing the Luciferic and Ahrimanic tendencies within mankind and triumphing over death and petrifying human evolution.

The Asuras will become very powerful in our future,acting through Ahriman, but at all times do these three aspects of evil act in concert, but usually one of them dominates the other aspects.

Lucifer is involved with our astral body and our emotions and desires, and we ourselves will have to purge our astral body in due course of unbalanced emtions and desires, in order to allow our inner Christ quality to come forth and shine.

Ahriman wants to take over our physical bodies via our etheric energy double and his influence may be conquered with the aid of the forces of archangel, now timespirit Michael.
I believe the emerging nano-fungal related Morgellon's disease may well be an intelligent effort by Ahriman and his minions to gain control of the human body.

The Asuras our out to attack our Self, our very being and can be transformed by the awakening force of the Christ within or by close association with the Living Christ Jesus on etheric level, to which mankind is slowly getting attuned to. Witness the increasing Living Christ encounters in real life and Christ encounters in cases of near-death experiences.
Hope this brief explanation suffices and is devoid of serious errors, amen.
 Quoting: OBSERVER 1184489

Hello OP, lack of comment on info put together, especially geared to your question, I find somewhat disheartening.
No affinty towards Steiner's explanation of the various faces of evil or what ?
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Sorry OBSERVER 1184489

I am reading it. I got 5 kids so sometimes my reply time is longer then I would like. Gimme a couple min's and I'll let ya know. I'm trying to wrap my lil mind around it.

I apologize that I offended you :)
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Re: HONEST Question.....Are Lucifer and Satan, the same being
According to early 20th century spiritual research by Rudolf Steiner(anthroposophy)there is this unholy Trinity of evil, as a mirrorimage of the the Holy Trinity, comprising of the Asuras on the top, inspired by the anti-Sun demon Sorath and below the Asuras come the Ahrimanic forces and below that the Luciferic forces.

The Asuras belong to a higher order of a fallen angelic hierarchy and they stand for the ultimate annihilation of mankind, but to a lesser degree drugabuse, sex orgies and meaningless violence and an overpowering sense of lack of meaningful purpose in life and nihilism.

Sorath apparently belongs to an older order of cosmic creation and wants to expunge the very existence of the tenth hierarchy, namely mankind, the hierarchy of free will and unconditional love.
Sorath can also be regarded as the true anti-Christfigure, whereas the incarnation of Ahriman would be like an assistent of Sorath and is expected to emerge as a powerful despot in our time, initially regarded as a benefactor of mankind, till proven otherwise.

The Ahriman forces represent the energies of contraction, materialization, reductionist, materialistic philosophy on life and non spirituality, demonic black magic rituals, technology, digital virtual reality, power manipulation and physical domination, the father of lies and keeps the human spirit emprisoned withinin the five senses of the body. Also associated with the concept of Satan.

The Luciferic forces represent the energies of dispersing radiation,rules over the spiritual realms, promotes spiritual expansion at the cost of physical reality, dreamworlds in which one gets lost,promoting a false sense of oneness, in which personal and global issues remain unresolved,fantasies in general, art inspiration, the quality of beauty and the power of the intellect, promoting pride,a fierce temper and loss of empathy and indifference towards earthly existence and lack of responsibility and solidarity towards fellowman . Lucifer is associated with the concept ofDiabolos or the Devil, a fiery red figure.

Lucifer as an angelic being apparently incarnated in ancient China, round 3000 B.C. and the power of Lucifer is waning in our time, whereas the power of Ahriman is becoming far more prominent in our time.

The Christ incarnation, merging with Master Jesus (born around 7 B.C.) during the baptism in the river Jordan by John the Baptist, represents the middle of the road of the three important incarnations concerning our spiritual development, the Christ figure balancing the Luciferic and Ahrimanic tendencies within mankind and triumphing over death and petrifying human evolution.

The Asuras will become very powerful in our future,acting through Ahriman, but at all times do these three aspects of evil act in concert, but usually one of them dominates the other aspects.

Lucifer is involved with our astral body and our emotions and desires, and we ourselves will have to purge our astral body in due course of unbalanced emtions and desires, in order to allow our inner Christ quality to come forth and shine.

Ahriman wants to take over our physical bodies via our etheric energy double and his influence may be conquered with the aid of the forces of archangel, now timespirit Michael.
I believe the emerging nano-fungal related Morgellon's disease may well be an intelligent effort by Ahriman and his minions to gain control of the human body.

The Asuras our out to attack our Self, our very being and can be transformed by the awakening force of the Christ within or by close association with the Living Christ Jesus on etheric level, to which mankind is slowly getting attuned to. Witness the increasing Living Christ encounters in real life and Christ encounters in cases of near-death experiences.
Hope this brief explanation suffices and is devoid of serious errors, amen.
 Quoting: OBSERVER 1184489

Hello OP, lack of comment on info put together, especially geared to your question, I find somewhat disheartening.
No affinty towards Steiner's explanation of the various faces of evil or what ?
 Quoting: OBSERVER 1184489


Observer, I am trying to wrap my head around it. I dont know if it's the unusual name's that is throwing me off or what. Dont take that the wrong way it took awhile for me to grasp the angels stations too.

If you have some free time could ya dumb it down for me.
lol Im really sorry
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