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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1164558 United States 07/14/2011 11:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1164558We have a diverse nation of people and sex's. So what then? It's Ok to be Black, Hispanic, White, Native American, or Asian, but we all know there are no Gay! Only Straight People. Ah, no dumbfucks! Education has purpose beyond baby sitting for you breeders! Think about it if possible. After all, I've been paying taxes on your bratts for over half a century, I deserve some respect. Education is for what? Oh Yea! Adulthood ya think? We all live in the same nation idiots. Time to realize that not all people drive mini-vans and shop at Walmart, or something like that. That's one reason we need "Gay" something as part of public education. Here's another: It's called murder by social Morayes. This is what I started off bitching about. .... so you believe that by teaching about gays in school it will teach empathy and tolerance? Perhaps this was the goal of the LAW. If you want to teach empathy, I believe this is a much better route. [link to www.udel.edu] Empathy is derived from experience. It starts with education. I think I've made it quite clear that what we are talking about is the fulfillment that Martin talked about and that Jeffersons' articulated ideals reflect in the preamble to the Constitution as penned by Govenor Morris. Quite amazing actually, considering he was once the richest man in America at that time period. Don't think we would see that today. Changing the level of acceptance through knowledge gained as part of education and later experiences in life as an adult. For all adults will eventually come in to contact with homosexuals. Just as they will with other races. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1468379 United States 07/14/2011 11:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Will they teach pedophile history? Will they teach kids to admire them? Will they teach kids that it is ok to have two or more wives or husbands? If so, it sounds like they have an agenda to demoralize these kids. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1468364A person's sexuality is neither here nor there when it comes to education. Kids go to school to get educated not indoctrinated, atleast that's how its supposed to be. If you start with the youth you can get your agenda out to the masses in no time. Even as a Bible thumping Christian, I'm not concerned if a person is gay or straight. That's their business between them and their maker. That said, I still feel like it is my obligation to make sure my children are getting a quality education and a persons sexuality is none of our business. My children are aware of many people who have been rumored to be gay throughout history, Abe Lincoln for instance. That is not the concern or focus of our studies though...it wouldn't change his contribution to society if he were. I don't shelter my children from the paegan views of historical figures, or other religions, or certain lifestyles. But it should be MY choice on those matters. The federal or state governments should not be mandating and indoctrinating our children. |
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TheBroker (OP) User ID: 1429173 United States 07/14/2011 11:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | so you believe that by teaching about gays in school it will teach empathy and tolerance? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1164558Perhaps this was the goal of the LAW. If you want to teach empathy, I believe this is a much better route. [link to www.udel.edu] Changing the level of acceptance through knowledge gained as part of education and later experiences in life as an adult. For all adults will eventually come in to contact with homosexuals. Just as they will with other races. you didn't even look at the link did you? lol Sure. Porn makes total sense. You want to go rob a couple houses so we can smoke some porn? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1043775 |
Buford2 User ID: 1447484 United States 07/14/2011 11:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you don't like gay people or what they have contributed to society then disconnect from the internet, pack up your computer & return it to the store. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1432849Alan Turing was as gay as they come. My old teacher had a birth defect but he didnt allow that to keep him from teaching his craft. Should our history books, which are nothing more than lies and propaganda, also have a month long study of how handicapped people have helped society. Being gay is a birth defect just like scoliosis. If people contend they are born gay then it is a birth defect. If they just decide to turn gay then it is a perversion. Last Edited by Buford2 on 07/14/2011 11:30 PM |
TheBroker (OP) User ID: 1429173 United States 07/14/2011 11:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | so you believe that by teaching about gays in school it will teach empathy and tolerance? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1164558Perhaps this was the goal of the LAW. If you want to teach empathy, I believe this is a much better route. [link to www.udel.edu] Changing the level of acceptance through knowledge gained as part of education and later experiences in life as an adult. For all adults will eventually come in to contact with homosexuals. Just as they will with other races. you didn't even look at the link did you? lol In fact, we found that 90 percent of the children in the United States mention punishment or fear of punishment in regulating their behavior, and 90 percent of children in Japan did not mention that. Instead, in Japan there was a much greater focus on the impact of [students'] behavior on others, and not on themselves. Whether or not [students] hit somebody or teased somebody or aggressed against another child, either verbally or physically, they were more concerned about how the other child would feel, rather than if they would get caught. Sure. Porn makes total sense. You want to go rob a couple houses so we can smoke some porn? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1043775 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 744051 United States 07/14/2011 11:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | its not a matter of "not liking" its a matter of having it thrown in your face. Quoting: TheBrokerHISTORY class doesn't need to comment on peoples sexual preference. I can agree with you to some extent, if its random drum-beating then it probably has no place in the classroom. However, the gay movement IS a part of modern history, just like the women's lib movement. It is recognized as a struggle for equality & in that context probably has a place in a history class. But, as with so many things, its not so much WHAT you do but HOW you do it. That is what I thought at first, that they were just teaching about the gay movement like they did the women's movement. However, reading that article, they sound like they are just leaving it up to the teacher and not really teaching about it as a movement at all. Which means you will have some that do little to nothing with it and others that will lose their minds. These folks are asking for trouble with no guidelines. If this must happen, teach about it as a movement and let it go. |
ScrumpTheTexan Forum Administrator User ID: 1415693 United States 07/14/2011 11:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just gonna get worse... Criminal GLSEN Founder Kevin Jennings is Obama's Safe School Czar He's just left office last month but the damage is done... Thread: Scrump's News Letter 'Final 2009' *The Destruction of YOUR CHILDREN* I am a Christian. Christian does not equal doormat or pushover "I Have Sworn upon the Altar of God... Eternal Hostility against every form of Tyranny over the mind of man." -Thomas Jefferson, Sep. 23, 1800 The Election of Donald John Trump: [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] For previous Newsletters, click 'Scrump's News Letters' @ [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1164558 United States 07/14/2011 11:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's not right, on any level. I bet if the kids had a choice, they wouldn't want anything to do with having that as a part of their education. I have nothing against people that are gay, but it is not something that needs to be taught to kids. There is enough of it around, outside of schools. Quoting: One Of A Kind Cappy GirlRight, and you have what understanding of the purpose of education? So we should just let kids learn whatever they want? No regard for any civility or equality? Like I said, education has a purpose. Part of that purpose is to prepare childern for being an adult. Sexuality is part of life. Get over yourself and your artifical superiority complex. No body is advocating teaching a child any thing except that they live in more complex world than the little one you apparently grew up in. You are all hipocrites, you are perfectly happy to take tax money from Gays but scream and inflame passions like a bunch of bitches when they want to be included in this society. I say fine, don't teach it and so too lets just repeal that and also exempt all gays from any taxes realted to education. After all, fair is fair. The don't reproduce do they. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1449354 United States 07/14/2011 11:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: cleo65Read the links, then post an educated evaluation.... Have you read these links, because they prove my point. Physical relationships between two adult men was anathema to almost all of the ancient Greeks, do some research. The Greeks did, however, practice pederasty on a large scale. If you do not know what that is, look it up. This goes for the Romans also. So, you would not consider man with boy a homosexual relationship? No, it is the perversion of Pederasty. Homosexuality, as is defined today, did not exist. Now, that's funny Who defined the term you believe? |
atomic811 User ID: 1463840 United States 07/14/2011 11:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I learned in school that Thomas Jefferson banged chickens, so whats the difference? Who cares? Everyone all uptight and shit. My Blog [link to brianunderwood.blogspot.com] My video [link to blip.tv] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1463994 United States 07/14/2011 11:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why is everyone scared to teach the truth about people without prejudice. Anyone who says being gay is a birth defect or it is wrong is Prejudice. We should stop prejudism first, before we can teach anything else. It's school, we are there to learn not to be lied to or have things hidden from us nor should we be taught prejudism and hate. That doesn't mix with learning and will only impede us further. That being said, we should be focusing on learning in an environment where all feel welcome. As a country we are lagging behind other countries in education and we need to catch up or we will all be stupid and poor- So who cares about gays so much!!! Whatever. That's life, get used to it- learn there are people like this and learn the world is not full of perfect gods children on white horses. Wake up and deal with reality |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1365393 United States 07/14/2011 11:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | we'll teach gay history Quoting: ^TrInItY^but not the constitution this country is fucked technically teaching gay history is teaching about the struggle for freedom and equality which the constitution was founded off of....So keep your mind on getting donations for your telescope and not on political endeavors thank you. :shutuphippie: This is a fail on every level... gosh, every time i read the shit you write you embarrass yourself. glad not all texans are dimwitted like you. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1467995 United States 07/14/2011 11:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1467995Have you read these links, because they prove my point. Physical relationships between two adult men was anathema to almost all of the ancient Greeks, do some research. The Greeks did, however, practice pederasty on a large scale. If you do not know what that is, look it up. This goes for the Romans also. So, you would not consider man with boy a homosexual relationship? No, it is the perversion of Pederasty. Homosexuality, as is defined today, did not exist. Now, that's funny Who defined the term you believe? The word did not even exist until the late 19th Century, and was applied to Pederast. Do the research, you may just learn something. |
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Meow... User ID: 1417925 United States 07/14/2011 11:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Good-bye californication. Won't miss your sorry ass. Glad to be rid of your aids and illegitimate kids and your idiocy. Evil is as evil does. Just sayin'... Last Edited by Meow... on 07/14/2011 11:51 PM The evil that men do lives after them. 'A Republic,if you can keep it.' |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1164558 United States 07/14/2011 11:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | its not a matter of "not liking" its a matter of having it thrown in your face. Quoting: TheBrokerHISTORY class doesn't need to comment on peoples sexual preference. I can agree with you to some extent, if its random drum-beating then it probably has no place in the classroom. However, the gay movement IS a part of modern history, just like the women's lib movement. It is recognized as a struggle for equality & in that context probably has a place in a history class. But, as with so many things, its not so much WHAT you do but HOW you do it. That is what I thought at first, that they were just teaching about the gay movement like they did the women's movement. However, reading that article, they sound like they are just leaving it up to the teacher and not really teaching about it as a movement at all. Which means you will have some that do little to nothing with it and others that will lose their minds. These folks are asking for trouble with no guidelines. If this must happen, teach about it as a movement and let it go. I wouldn't teach if it was the last job on the planet. Just look at the kooks and hate mongers on this thread. This is what 5 to 7 years of ecucation buys you: Dealing with radicalized Christian Loons, bigots, and assholes! OK, following what you have said, why bother having teachers at all! We could just have security guards! You get off the bus and they put a shock collar on the kid. Now sit down, shut the fuck up, and start your lesson on the computer! Or else! Is it any wonder that our educational system is a total disaster. Ya know, apparently the majority of people here don't fucking get it. It isn't about you "Assholes!" It's about your kid and you all know that parents aren't allowed at boot camp. The sonsofbitches shouldn't be allowed near schools either obviously! What we need are guard alright, just guards with orders to keep stupid parents outside the school grounds! |
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NaturalGirl User ID: 1153427 United States 07/15/2011 12:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | its not a matter of "not liking" its a matter of having it thrown in your face. Quoting: TheBrokerHISTORY class doesn't need to comment on peoples sexual preference. I can agree with you to some extent, if its random drum-beating then it probably has no place in the classroom. However, the gay movement IS a part of modern history, just like the women's lib movement. It is recognized as a struggle for equality & in that context probably has a place in a history class. But, as with so many things, its not so much WHAT you do but HOW you do it. |
ScrumpTheTexan Forum Administrator User ID: 1415693 United States 07/15/2011 12:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | we'll teach gay history Quoting: ^TrInItY^but not the constitution this country is fucked technically teaching gay history is teaching about the struggle for freedom and equality which the constitution was founded off of....So keep your mind on getting donations for your telescope and not on political endeavors thank you. This is a fail on every level... gosh, every time i read the shit you write you embarrass yourself. glad not all texans are dimwitted like you. Well gosh! I am a Christian. Christian does not equal doormat or pushover "I Have Sworn upon the Altar of God... Eternal Hostility against every form of Tyranny over the mind of man." -Thomas Jefferson, Sep. 23, 1800 The Election of Donald John Trump: [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] For previous Newsletters, click 'Scrump's News Letters' @ [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] |
NaturalGirl User ID: 1153427 United States 07/15/2011 12:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1164558We have a diverse nation of people and sex's. So what then? It's Ok to be Black, Hispanic, White, Native American, or Asian, but we all know there are no Gay! Only Straight People. Ah, no dumbfucks! Education has purpose beyond baby sitting for you breeders! Think about it if possible. After all, I've been paying taxes on your bratts for over half a century, I deserve some respect. Education is for what? Oh Yea! Adulthood ya think? We all live in the same nation idiots. Time to realize that not all people drive mini-vans and shop at Walmart, or something like that. That's one reason we need "Gay" something as part of public education. Here's another: It's called murder by social Morayes. This is what I started off bitching about. .... so you believe that by teaching about gays in school it will teach empathy and tolerance? Perhaps this was the goal of the LAW. If you want to teach empathy, I believe this is a much better route. [link to www.udel.edu] Empathy is derived from experience. It starts with education. I think I've made it quite clear that what we are talking about is the fulfillment that Martin talked about and that Jeffersons' articulated ideals reflect in the preamble to the Constitution as penned by Govenor Morris. Quite amazing actually, considering he was once the richest man in America at that time period. Don't think we would see that today. Changing the level of acceptance through knowledge gained as part of education and later experiences in life as an adult. For all adults will eventually come in to contact with homosexuals. Just as they will with other races. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1449354 United States 07/15/2011 12:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So, are you speaking about words of definitions? We can go around in circles all night! Have you ever read shakespear? Some of the words used no longer exist, but, their definition does... ... Quoting: cleo65So, you would not consider man with boy a homosexual relationship? No, it is the perversion of Pederasty. Homosexuality, as is defined today, did not exist. Now, that's funny Who defined the term you believe? The word did not even exist until the late 19th Century, and was applied to Pederast. Do the research, you may just learn something. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1164558 United States 07/15/2011 12:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | so you believe that by teaching about gays in school it will teach empathy and tolerance? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1164558Perhaps this was the goal of the LAW. If you want to teach empathy, I believe this is a much better route. [link to www.udel.edu] Changing the level of acceptance through knowledge gained as part of education and later experiences in life as an adult. For all adults will eventually come in to contact with homosexuals. Just as they will with other races. you didn't even look at the link did you? lol OK sorry, I guess I missed that. I don't pretend to have the answer. I do know that what I see here is insanity by bigots, hate mongering Christans, and a general asshole attitude. I do know that our education system cannot be exciting or challenging or informative because it cannot address any issue like this one without every kook and loon and hate monger crawling out of the wood work. The results are obvious. The drop out rate. Parents don't get it. They think it's about them and it's not. If we followed the desires expressed here we would still have a great nation as some contend. Great if you are White, like me, and so go ahead. Maybe we can repeal all equality. Sexuality is admittedly not the same as race. It is part of life, a big part of life, and it is part of life that starts at a pretty early age. I think it's a difficult subject. I agree that homosexuality needs to have some recognition and understanding. I also think parents should only be allowed in schools under armed guard. Then maybe kids could be excited about learning things prohibited by stupid adults. Who's the expert anyways? A person with a Masters Degree or some jackass who has a GED? Christ! Let them fucking teach and just maybe we can turn this sinking turd around! |
Meow... User ID: 1417925 United States 07/15/2011 12:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is NO gay history unless you want to talk about Rock Hudson who was a big star in the 50's and 60' who was the first 'movie star' to die of aids. Homo anal sex is WRONG on every level. Do it and reap the rewards. It is an abomination unto the Lord. The hole is for shit to come OUT,not for a penis to go IN. The evil that men do lives after them. 'A Republic,if you can keep it.' |
wisdomknight User ID: 1422753 United States 07/15/2011 12:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is NO gay history unless you want to talk about Rock Hudson who was a big star in the 50's and 60' who was the first 'movie star' to die of aids. Quoting: Meow...Homo anal sex is WRONG on every level. Do it and reap the rewards. It is an abomination unto the Lord. The hole is for shit to come OUT,not for a penis to go IN. Why dont you say what you mean instead of beating around the bush? Last Edited by wisdomknight on 07/15/2011 12:13 AM "I find your lack of faith disturbing." |
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atomic811 User ID: 1463840 United States 07/15/2011 12:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is NO gay history unless you want to talk about Rock Hudson who was a big star in the 50's and 60' who was the first 'movie star' to die of aids. Quoting: Meow...Homo anal sex is WRONG on every level. Do it and reap the rewards. It is an abomination unto the Lord. The hole is for shit to come OUT,not for a penis to go IN. Not all gay men have anal sex. Many just do oral. Some gay men (like me) don't even have sex, however I am still gay. Lots of straight people have anal with their girlfriend and wife. While its true in the USA and Europe gay males have HIV more than heterosexual males and females. Lesbians (also gay) by far have the lowest STD rates of all the groups. My Blog [link to brianunderwood.blogspot.com] My video [link to blip.tv] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1449354 United States 07/15/2011 12:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is NO gay history unless you want to talk about Rock Hudson who was a big star in the 50's and 60' who was the first 'movie star' to die of aids. Quoting: Meow...Homo anal sex is WRONG on every level. Do it and reap the rewards. It is an abomination unto the Lord. The hole is for shit to come OUT,not for a penis to go IN. Vaginal sex is very clean... Douche much? |