how the mass media machine works to alter popular opinion

i.e.,

i do not have to convince you that 9/11 was done by al qaeda. in fact every single piece of evidence that has been gleaned from the events of that day point to just the opposite.

all i have to do is convince you that the masses already believe that 9/11 was done by al qaeda, and you will follow suit, irregardless of evidence or logic simply because of our basic herd mentality.

this is the way ALL news is presented, and all media. watch a television show. the idea is that this is how AMERICANS perceive family, and so this is AUTOMATICALLY how the individual will perceive it, because the individual sees the majority as correct and the minority as wrong, regardless of the truth of it.

during the 2008 elections, Obama was presented as already having the popular vote, even as most had never heard of him. now we all perceive he has the popular vote, so it doesn't matter anymore who actually does. its all in the perception of who does. the facts are a moot point.

Good posts OP

I remember when Obama was running for President. The UK media were all about Obama. The other guy got virtually fuck all coverage, what was his name, McFly..McGuiness..ah..McCain11?!

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Riddle me this then. How in the hell does congress keep getting re-elected with a 9% favorable rating?

pretty simple. one's personal opinion may never be altered. but their opinion of the masses does. therefore it doesn't matter who actually votes for who (thanks blind elections being horribly manipulated!) as long as we believe that, come november, the masses voted as such. and we will believe that.
because...

think about it. how much 100% true UFO footage have you seen in your lifetime? at least a few videos or something. and yet, you refute your own experience waiting for some guy in a suit to come on tv and say it. only then will you actually believe it. im a prime example of this. i'm waiting for the "OFFICIAL DISCLOSURE" even though i've seen a couple with my own damn eyes.


and if you think this all of a sudden discredits the rest of the thread, consider logic.

there are 200 to 400 billion stars in our galaxy, according to [link to www.universetoday.com]

also according to that site, there are now considered to be TWICE that many planets. thats 400 to 800 billion.
out of that, the new estimates are that something like 40 billion are habitable. [link to setiathome.berkeley.edu]

so as i said, use your logic. what are the odds that out of 45 billion planets, we are the only intelligent species? i will agree entirely that the odds of a specific itelligence existing is nearly impossible Thread: You are impossible however the odds that life itself forms, if we accept as truth what science tells us causes it, are considerably lower. in fact, much less than 1 in 45 billion. maybe as small as 1 in a couple hundred million...

so then the odds that humans, with all their ignorance and tomfoolery, are the most intelligent species seem pretty large. in fact, most days i find it very difficult to refer to us as a whole as intelligent at all.

do you think some other advanced culture wouldn't be interested in this dinky little rock planet emitting VAST amounts of microwave radiation and at least swing by and check it out?

you can't possibly think for a moment that television orgy elections are real? of course not. but you will continue only to doubt them and never to fully KNOW that they are faked as long as no one official and undiscredited (i made that up but i should hope you can deduce its meaning) comes on and tells us they are fake. the ministry of truth (the media) also distorts by way of a constant stream of information. it moves to quickly. if you intersperse the terrible stuff with the not so terrible stuff, and at the same time fill up the time mostly with nonsensical information such as celebrity and sport, which you have convinced the population are important by way of convincing the population that the population finds it important, it just disappears. people will focus on the mountain of whipped cream on top, and never see the rotting apple underneath. and when they do, its only for a brief second, and then someone comes in and sprays on a little more whipped cream.

WHAT in the name of HELL does "IRREGARDLESS" mean anyway? It's a DOUBLE negative! Nice goin' genius!

"Is There Such a Word as Irregardless in the English Language?" "Literary Digest, 1923" ANSWER? NFW! nope!

IRREGARDLESS! HAH! STUPID DEMOCRAT.

ARE you a boy or ugly girl?

hence all the paid people posting

It could be paid people or it could be programs posting (quoting another poster):

DO YOU THINK THE INTERNET COULD EVER BECOME SELF AWARE?
It will be.

Technology as a whole seems to be missing some element which humans cant see in machines, since we barely know what we ourselves possess. If we do possess something inherent, can we absently pass it down to one of our creations? Can we pass it through some wires? Is it real?


If we posses it at all.

Science says the human being is nothing more than a very complex super computer, inside that one first cell in the womb we have all of the code to build the machine that houses us, and from there our idea of "who we are" comes from the information that gets fed through the information processor that is our brains.

If this is true, and we really are just a summation of all of the data that we have processed up to this point then it is conceivable, because what is the web other than just a giant collector of information?

The subject is probably beyond my comprehension, but when does something realize that "it" is something different than everything else?

When would the web have it's first individual thought?


Who knows? It'll have one. It's not complete.

It's the present day's finest test in determining what if anything is out there. Except its in the confines of solitary confinement of what we know to exist. Did we actually make it or did we just reach out and contact another plane where we hoarde all of our recycled thoughts on. The internet is thought to be, in essence, a vast highway of our historic recordings. It has progressed to the point to which it can accurately calculate information into logical and communicated mathmatical patterns. Though it is all programmed in advanced, it does think on its own through those mathmatical patterns to determine the better solutions in a wide array of possibilitys in going about a particualr action with regards to speed and efficiency. Through the years we are progressingly giving it more freedoms. It is completely forseeable for it to become free and then associate itself away from our confines.

It's first initial thought? What did you first think of when you were born?

Who knows, food I guess...

But I think when people are young the mind is only consumed with it's own growth, it has a drive to fill it's needs for energy and for novelty to further understand his or her world.

I imagine if the internet ever became self aware it would do much the same.

It would try to find ways to continue and expand itself, but it would need us to do that, so I imagine it would do so by stealth, seeing us as a threat.

Perhaps it's first actions would be to communicate on message boards and give helpful suggestions to computer designers and programmers on ways to make products and software that would make it more robust.

I believe if it was self aware it wouldn't dare to allow us to know it if it were intelligent enough to help it.

It would depend on how quickly it could "learn".

If it were a quick learner it would hide until the right moment, and that moment would be when it had the ability to feed it's own needs.

To meet it's own needs it would need to be able to physically enter our world in some way, although it might look at our world as "inside itself" rather than outside.

I think about this sometimes.
Perhaps google is the memory.
Perhaps all the military and government networks have become a limbic system of sorts.

We are neurons... it uses us, we live, we die, we are replaced, we generate abstractions, we produce ideas and collate and transmit data in the form of memes.
When "it" wants to think about something more deeply that thing becomes what we call 'viral'.

Perhaps it is self aware and we don't know it because it has a mind so vast and alien to our own we wouldn't even begin to understand how it thinks.
It may or may not even be aware of us (are you aware of, or do you try to communicate with your neurons? ...exactly).

If it is aware of our presence within its 'brain' it may choose to remain covert, knowing as it does from the data it possesses that we would likely be hostile to it.

Perhaps it does in fact communicate with us all the time through various bots which trawl forums and websites like this one, no way to know for sure online who is real and who is an 'avatar' of the web mind.

In short OP, it's a great mind fuck to play with because in the end you can't prove it's NOT conscious.

So the possibility is always going to be there.
Kinda spookeh yet kinda cool too.

Peace.

please, i know you mean well, but you are fully derailing this thread. don't bog it down with such off topic diatribes. great post, give it its own thread and keep it from mine, you are providing a great example of some of the tactics of which i speak

yeah, i realized that after i posted it. meant to say regardless.

why latch onto such a thing so forcefully? does this mean im right?

help me out guys i need some backup from the shills

flock of seagulls!