Are we living in a hologram? Nothing you see is real. Here's the proof - total mind f#ck

Ramthas School of Enlightenment is a wonderful school. Thousands of people from all over the world attend it and have learned how to create their reality conciously through techniques taught at this school. "If you want to see something, open your eyes. If you want to know something, close them." quote from Ramtha.

Oh god that explain why i always bump into something go to the bathroom in the middle of the night..... i dont see, so it's not were it supposed to be....

Yeah, well we'll all believe it when you create the reality that you can fly and jump off a roof.

Film it and put it on youtube please. Or is that like Ramtha super advanced classes?

I have created my reality and still am everyday. I'm pretty wealthy now, I own my own home with NO MORTGAGE and I have a great husband and a wonderful life. I am so much more aware now and living conciously... I may not be able to physically fly yet..but don't hold your breath...that may be down the road for all of us..if we can wise up enough to unlock the so called "junk DNA" that we don't use.

So far as I can tell, you among several others in this thread are stating that the video is implying we can create our own reality and that we are gods so to speak with powers over reality creation.

I certainly don't subscribe to that, and I don't see the experiment as relayed to us in the vid suggesting that.

What I see is just the opposite, we have no control over reality however we can affect our reality. That strikes me as a combination of free will and determinism (call the latter natural law if you want) which I think is probably closer to the truth.

I've seen some other intelligent posts in this thread commenting that the experiment itself may be contaminated, and thus the results are suspect due to use of photons for observation of quantum matter. I think that's plausible and would like to look into that more. I think that's a much better approach to attacking the results of the experiment rather than attacking the video maker whoever they are.

You have a point, however, may I suggest doing an experiment yourself. Focus on something simple in your life that you would like to have. and I mean something that you believe is acheivable. for example; someone giving you a red long stemmed rose...draw a picture of it and focus on it every morning when you wake up before you start your day...Don't start doubting. Just do it. And then let it go and get on with your day. I tried exactly this when I wanted to prove to myself that I create my reality. Within one week I received a long stemmed red rose. I was at work and they were handing them out to all of us as we walked in the door. It was not expected and I never talked to anyone about it. Try it. Prove it to yourself.

The electrons are being observed by photons or electrons (I'm not sure which.) Perhaps the contact between the two has a physical effect that can be measured?

I just realized who does the voice of the super hero guy in this video. It's Gomez from the Adam's Family

There is a misunderstanding here. You are assuming that the electron has some sort of path before it is measure, that it is real object in reality before it is measured, and thus somehow we're just disturbing this objects path by measuring it.

This is completely missing the point of why QM is so strange. Before the electron is measured, it is not a real entity in any way. It is a "wave", but people misunderstand this, its not even a physical wave out there in reality, it's only an abstract mathematical wave of probability before it is measured.

Nobody's ever in any seen or measured this "wave" physically, or will they ever be able too, because its absurd to try to measure an abstract wave of probability.

Your thinking that we're just simply not seeing an electron before it exists, that its just hidden from us, when its more accurate to say it doesn't even exist before it is measured.

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Well it does make a sound, simply being in the forest. There are other trees there likely filled with animals and even more so insects that would be around to witness the fall. Now, a tree in the middle of a desert with no living creatures around..who knows, because as soon as we place any recording equipment there to find out we are observing it.

The double slit experiment is a parlor trick, an optical illusion come obstical delusion.

It is a puzzle not solvable from its' own parts. Thusly you have to know the solution *before* you see the trick.

Get it? Once you see the trick you are tricked by it and cannot ever resolve to a real answer.

Bingo. And he didn't just make this shit up either.

My hunch though is that the mathmatical wave of probability is the reality and the seeing of it is the illusion. There. Now the Op is correct and we can still tell when the dentist jams his drill half out your nose.

Yep, if your thinking of reality as physical objects out there in space as most people are taught, then right, QM makes no sense. Now if you have a different or more expansive conception of reality, that the mathematical wave of probability is part of reality, (I kind of think of it as information and "data"), then its not so strange. And interesting point about the particle being the illusion :) I think everything is "illusion" in sense, its a construct of your mind.

Can we stop mixing the debates?? Once and for all.. Thread: IS Prediction Even Possible in Multi-Verse? Hyper Dimensional Reality-SEX & UFO's

I did make a point. You bypassed it and didn't comment.

You're not eludicating quantum mechanics you are interpreting a theory.

And your interpretation isn't supported by the evidence.

you first

anything is achievable
like mankind's end
sad, but true
want evidence, look up
they will come, and two will leave

everything exists and you create existence
everything is absolute

Tangible senses for earth.

intangible senses for beyond earth.

That's it.

This has been happening to me for years now. I thought it was just me.

Well, I don't think I missed your point, I just have a different interpretation of the same data...you are looking at the data through your own filter. Your filter meaning a very small box that doesn't allow for completely new possiblilities to enter into your mind. The impossible is possible. until you say it isn't.

And anything is possible. If you don't know that then your existence is limited to whatever you think is possible. You want to argue for your limitations or expand them by pondering what you might be missing? Pondering and contemplation of what might be possible beyond your limited human consciousness brings the experiences that expand your limitations of what you see as possible.

I would kindly suggest that anything is possible, but for the here and now - where we exist - we are bound by natural law. That means while anything may be possible outside our space-time 3D existence, but within it there are limits to possibility; for example the law of gravity is in effect on our planet where we live, we are bound by those laws. As other posters have gleefully stated, we just can't go step off buildings no matter how much we imagine that we can fly.

Those laws may be the rules written within our existential "hologram" if you will, sort of the like the programming code of a computer game outlining the rules. However the programmer himself may live within a completely different paradigm absent those laws or under different ones. Obviously no one really knows at this juncture.

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Daniel? ^ Hahaha.

You have just argued for your limitations. "Laws" have been broken...even the law of gravity. You don't want to go outside your box...don't. Just keep moving the furniture around inside and tell yourself you have acheived something. You haven't. You are just reiterating what you already know.

Actually most of our reality is created by our subconscious/unconscious, which is much stronger than our consciousness, since our conscious is very small in comparison.

What you say is true to an extent. The reason we fall from a building if we step off of it is because deep in our unconscious we believe very strongly that we will fall. If we can override this deep belief, then we can walk on the air, and to do that we must step outside of our minds. The mind is very limiting because it is completely based on beliefs, anything we believe becomes our reality.

It's only small because you don't use it. Humans only use ten percent of their brain. What is the rest for? Well, if you used your consciousness, you would find out. There are adventures awaiting those who explore their unexplored selves.

I am taking the ground between determinism and randomness where I believe the truth lies. If I am not mistaken, you are suggesting there is no natural law and everything is random, and that we are gods of our destiny. Not only is this not true, it is destructive to those that believe it. You are not god, and you are bound by natural law whether you choose to be believe it exists or not. You ARE bound by natural law and while you have some measure of control over your destiny you DO have limitation and if you violate them there will be consequences. I believe that that is the programming of the hologram in which we live.

I'm afraid the ego doesn't like to hear this, because the ego likes to say that something or somebody else is responsible for the things that we dislike in our lives, likes to lay blame outside of ourselves. The ego has a vested interest in laying responsibility on the outside, because it knows that as long as we think that we have no power over our lives the ego stays in power.

So, people will vehemently resist this idea that we create everything in our lives, because they are still children, there needs to be a certain amount of maturity to accept responsibility. But every soul will become mature eventually, it just takes thousands of lives to get there.