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| Dease User ID: 1505901  United States10/30/2011 12:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
my2centsworth  User ID: 1307594  Canada10/30/2011 12:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There was a thread talking about YU55 and it's tragectory earlier this week. AstoMutt posted that he had calculated YU55's path and felt that YU55 would not post a danger to Earth or the moon.. So I'm thinking it's probably wise to be aware of what's happening, but there is little chance of earth being affected by YU55. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1345673  Australia10/30/2011 12:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There was a thread talking about YU55 and it's tragectory earlier this week. AstoMutt posted that he had calculated YU55's path and felt that YU55 would not post a danger to Earth or the moon.. So I'm thinking it's probably wise to be aware of what's happening, but there is little chance of earth being affected by YU55. Quoting: my2centsworth errrr... are you sure about that? [link to hpiers.obspm.fr] |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1076520 United States10/30/2011 12:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There was a thread talking about YU55 and it's tragectory earlier this week. AstoMutt posted that he had calculated YU55's path and felt that YU55 would not post a danger to Earth or the moon.. So I'm thinking it's probably wise to be aware of what's happening, but there is little chance of earth being affected by YU55. Quoting: my2centsworth errrr... are you sure about that? [link to hpiers.obspm.fr] Interesting link but what should we be looking at? |
| shannonmarie1979 User ID: 1486993 United States10/30/2011 12:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No one can be certain of anything.They may "predict" certain things to be at certain distances..doesn't mean it will turn out that way,that's why it's called a prediction or an estimation and not a guarantee.If I were God ,I'd make it hit just to smite the scientist know it all's. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1345673 Australia10/30/2011 12:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There was a thread talking about YU55 and it's tragectory earlier this week. AstoMutt posted that he had calculated YU55's path and felt that YU55 would not post a danger to Earth or the moon.. So I'm thinking it's probably wise to be aware of what's happening, but there is little chance of earth being affected by YU55. Quoting: my2centsworth errrr... are you sure about that? [link to hpiers.obspm.fr] Interesting link but what should we be looking at? What happened to polar motion at the dates from recent Chile and Japan quakes happened, compared to what happened in September. |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1505901 United States10/30/2011 01:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There was a thread talking about YU55 and it's tragectory earlier this week. AstoMutt posted that he had calculated YU55's path and felt that YU55 would not post a danger to Earth or the moon.. So I'm thinking it's probably wise to be aware of what's happening, but there is little chance of earth being affected by YU55. Quoting: my2centsworth I hope you're right, but the government seems to be very concerned with astroid YU55. I think it's just too much of a coincedence that they are running a national emergency test on the day it's supposed to be closest to Earth. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1345673 Australia10/30/2011 01:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | BTW, here's a website to add food for thought to those who are interested. It is a general overview of many questions asked about 2005 Yu55. [link to www.kashonia.com] |
| Dease (OP) User ID: 1505901 United States10/30/2011 01:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | BTW, here's a website to add food for thought to those who are interested. It is a general overview of many questions asked about 2005 Yu55. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1345673 [link to www.kashonia.com] Thanks for the link! "Be strong and courageous. Do not be afraid or terrified because of them, for the LORD your God goes with you; he will never leave you nor forsake you." - Matthew 22: 37-39 "What good will it be for a man if he gains the whole world, yet forfeits his soul? Or what can a man give in exchange for his soul?" - Galatians 5: 22-23 |
| Halcyon Dayz, FCD User ID: 1222987  Netherlands10/30/2011 02:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No one can be certain of anything. They may "predict" certain things to be at certain distances. Doesn't mean it will turn out that way, that's why it's called a prediction or an estimate and not a guarantee. If I were God, I'd make it hit just to smite the scientist know-it-all's. Quoting: shannonmarie1979 1486993 Don't be silly. "Barring Acts of God" always is the implied caveat. And a literal Act of God is pretty much what it would take to translate this rock 325,000 km closer to Earth in just 10 days. There was a thread talking about YU55 and it's tragectory earlier this week. AstoMutt posted that he had calculated YU55's path and felt that YU55 would not post a danger to Earth or the moon.. So I'm thinking it's probably wise to be aware of what's happening, but there is little chance of earth being affected by YU55. Quoting: my2centsworth errrr... are you sure about that? [link to hpiers.obspm.fr] Interesting link but what should we be looking at? What happened to polar motion at the dates from recent Chile and Japan quakes happened, compared to what happened in September. Relevance to the rock in space?  Reaching for the sky makes you taller. Hi! My name is Halcyon Dayz and I'm addicted to morans. |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1505901 United States10/30/2011 03:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No one can be certain of anything. They may "predict" certain things to be at certain distances. Doesn't mean it will turn out that way, that's why it's called a prediction or an estimate and not a guarantee. If I were God, I'd make it hit just to smite the scientist know-it-all's. Quoting: shannonmarie1979 1486993 Don't be silly. "Barring Acts of God" always is the implied caveat. And a literal Act of God is pretty much what it would take to translate this rock 325,000 km closer to Earth in just 10 days. An act of God is not too far-fetched, considering Revalation talks about God pouring out his judgment upon the Earth. It talks about stars, and fire falling from the sky, and men hiding in caves and wanting to die.....coincedence? Quoting: Deanster What happened to polar motion at the dates from recent Chile and Japan quakes happened, compared to what happened in September. Relevance to the rock in space? |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1505901 United States10/30/2011 03:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No one can be certain of anything. They may "predict" certain things to be at certain distances. Doesn't mean it will turn out that way, that's why it's called a prediction or an estimate and not a guarantee. If I were God, I'd make it hit just to smite the scientist know-it-all's. Quoting: shannonmarie1979 1486993 Don't be silly. "Barring Acts of God" always is the implied caveat. And a literal Act of God is pretty much what it would take to translate this rock 325,000 km closer to Earth in just 10 days. An act of God is not too far-fetched, considering Revalation talks about God pouring out his judgment upon the Earth. It talks about stars, and fire falling from the sky, and men hiding in caves and wanting to die.....coincedence? What happened to polar motion at the dates from recent Chile and Japan quakes happened, compared to what happened in September. Relevance to the rock in space? An act of God is not too far-fetched, considering Revalation talks about God pouring out his judgment upon the Earth. It talks about stars, and fire falling from the sky, and men hiding in caves and wanting to die.....coincedence? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1345673 Australia10/30/2011 05:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No one can be certain of anything. They may "predict" certain things to be at certain distances. Doesn't mean it will turn out that way, that's why it's called a prediction or an estimate and not a guarantee. If I were God, I'd make it hit just to smite the scientist know-it-all's. Quoting: shannonmarie1979 1486993 Don't be silly. "Barring Acts of God" always is the implied caveat. And a literal Act of God is pretty much what it would take to translate this rock 325,000 km closer to Earth in just 10 days. Quoting: Deanster What happened to polar motion at the dates from recent Chile and Japan quakes happened, compared to what happened in September. Relevance to the rock in space? Relevance = if rotation changed significantly, what's to say JPL orbit diagram's supplied are upto date and accurate? If Earth is a constant gravitational "tug" interaction with the Moon, which has an influence on Earth tides, what would the effect of having Yu55 interacting inbetween the two result in? By asking this, I refer more to the asteroid's potential interferance with the "tug" interaction aspect, more than the influence of its physical mass itself. |
| Halcyon Dayz, FCD User ID: 1222987 Netherlands10/30/2011 05:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | An act of God is not too far-fetched, considering Revalation talks about God pouring out his judgment upon the Earth. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1505901 One village at the time? It's a 400 metre rock, rather miserly judgement if you ask me. God is by definition all-powerful, no need to pre-position the ammo. He can create it at will where and when he wants. And why are you warning people anyway? Since God is all-powerful only those He wants to die will die, and all of those He wants to die will die, and no one He doesn't want to die will die. You can not change that. Sorry to throw logic at you, I know it's not a fair fight. It talks about stars, and fire falling from the sky, and men hiding in caves and wanting to die.....coincedence? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1505901 Sounds pretty typical for doom fiction. John gets a lot more imaginative when the monster shows up. Are you aware that this baby swings by Earth every other year? And that we haven't found all of these rocks yet? This fly-by just isn't very unique. Reaching for the sky makes you taller. Hi! My name is Halcyon Dayz and I'm addicted to morans. |
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| Biochemky User ID: 919411 United States10/30/2011 05:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No one can be certain of anything. They may "predict" certain things to be at certain distances. Doesn't mean it will turn out that way, that's why it's called a prediction or an estimate and not a guarantee. If I were God, I'd make it hit just to smite the scientist know-it-all's. Quoting: shannonmarie1979 1486993 Don't be silly. "Barring Acts of God" always is the implied caveat. And a literal Act of God is pretty much what it would take to translate this rock 325,000 km closer to Earth in just 10 days. What happened to polar motion at the dates from recent Chile and Japan quakes happened, compared to what happened in September. Relevance to the rock in space? Relevance = if rotation changed significantly, what's to say JPL orbit diagram's supplied are upto date and accurate? If Earth is a constant gravitational "tug" interaction with the Moon, which has an influence on Earth tides, what would the effect of having Yu55 interacting inbetween the two result in? By asking this, I refer more to the asteroid's potential interferance with the "tug" interaction aspect, more than the influence of its physical mass itself. Now THAT is a very good question. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1345673 Australia10/30/2011 06:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | An act of God is not too far-fetched, considering Revalation talks about God pouring out his judgment upon the Earth. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1505901 One village at the time? It's a 400 metre rock, rather miserly judgement if you ask me. God is by definition all-powerful, no need to pre-position the ammo. He can create it at will where and when he wants. And why are you warning people anyway? Since God is all-powerful only those He wants to die will die, and all of those He wants to die will die, and no one He doesn't want to die will die. You can not change that. Sorry to throw logic at you, I know it's not a fair fight. It talks about stars, and fire falling from the sky, and men hiding in caves and wanting to die.....coincedence? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1505901 Sounds pretty typical for doom fiction. John gets a lot more imaginative when the monster shows up. Are you aware that this baby swings by Earth every other year? And that we haven't found all of these rocks yet? This fly-by just isn't very unique. You obviously didn't get the memo about this asteroid being unique in that it is spherical in shape and the spin on it. Go do some reading. |
| Halcyon Dayz, FCD User ID: 1222987 Netherlands10/30/2011 07:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What happened to polar motion at the dates from recent Chile and Japan quakes happened, compared to what happened in September. Quoting: Ozzie Coward 1345673 Relevance to the rock in space? Relevance = if rotation changed significantly, what's to say JPL orbit diagram's supplied are upto date and accurate? If Earth is a constant gravitational "tug" interaction with the Moon, which has an influence on Earth tides, what would the effect of having Yu55 interacting inbetween the two result in? By asking this, I refer more to the asteroid's potential interferance with the "tug" interaction aspect, more than the influence of its physical mass itself. I'm sorry, but I don't understand the question. You obviously didn't get the memo about this asteroid being unique in that it is spherical in shape and the spin on it. Go do some reading. I said this fly-by isn't unique. I didn't mention physical characteristics because they are irrelevant. If YU55 were made of solid gold it wouldn't change a thing. Reaching for the sky makes you taller. Hi! My name is Halcyon Dayz and I'm addicted to morans. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1345673 Australia10/30/2011 08:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What happened to polar motion at the dates from recent Chile and Japan quakes happened, compared to what happened in September. Quoting: Ozzie Coward 1345673 Relevance to the rock in space? Relevance = if rotation changed significantly, what's to say JPL orbit diagram's supplied are upto date and accurate? If Earth is a constant gravitational "tug" interaction with the Moon, which has an influence on Earth tides, what would the effect of having Yu55 interacting inbetween the two result in? By asking this, I refer more to the asteroid's potential interferance with the "tug" interaction aspect, more than the influence of its physical mass itself. I'm sorry, but I don't understand the question. You obviously didn't get the memo about this asteroid being unique in that it is spherical in shape and the spin on it. Go do some reading. I said this fly-by isn't unique. I didn't mention physical characteristics because they are irrelevant. If YU55 were made of solid gold it wouldn't change a thing. Here you go, I have obtained some information on Yu55 in the form of an article that should be along the lines of your interlectual capacity of which you have demonstrated in earlier conversation. It's not a "fly-by" as you dispute, but actually a "Drive-by" according to this article lol: [link to www.brianjohnpiccolo.com]  |
| Halcyon Dayz, FCD User ID: 1222987 Netherlands10/30/2011 08:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I said this fly-by isn't unique. Quoting: Halcyon Dayz, FCD I didn't mention physical characteristics because they are irrelevant. If YU55 were made of solid gold it wouldn't change a thing. Here you go, I have obtained some information on Yu55 in the form of an article that should be along the lines of your interlectual capacity of which you have demonstrated in earlier conversation. It's not a "fly-by" as you dispute, but actually a "Drive-by" according to this article lol: [link to www.brianjohnpiccolo.com] Are you slow-witted? And why are you linking to an astrologer? That's hilarious. Get a higher level source, they got pictures. [link to www.news.cornell.edu] [link to neo.jpl.nasa.gov] When was the first time you heard of YU55? Last week? I can keep track of these things. I might not be "interlectual" but I know my stuff. As I said composition and make up is irrelevant to orbital mechanics. Being spherical doesn't make it go faster, you know. No air in space. Reaching for the sky makes you taller. Hi! My name is Halcyon Dayz and I'm addicted to morans. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 3579277  United Kingdom10/30/2011 09:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You are all assuming that NASA is divulging ALL info on asteroids that are coming near the Earth. What if YU55 is just one of a group of asteroids that will come close to Earth during the period...9 - 11 November? And one....or several of the others will hit the Earth....they may have a low albedo, (Light reflective strength) and are difficult to spot visually. The only group that I know of with deep space radar ability that could track these objects without depending on their light reflective quality....is the USAF....and they won't divulge that kind of data to the general public without authorisation from the bigshots! YU55 may be seen by the authorities as a kind of safe flag - a diversion....right up to....maybe the Emergency broadcast on the 9th of November....when we get to hear about the 'true' data?     |
| Halcyon Dayz, FCD User ID: 1222987 Netherlands10/30/2011 10:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You are all assuming that NASA is divulging ALL info on asteroids that are coming near the Earth. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3579277 YU55 was discovered with 90 cm telescope operated by the University of Arizona, the observer reported it to the MPC. Like all other MPC subscriber NASA got the news in an email. How is NASA going to keep the guy with the 1.2 m telescope in South Africa, the guy with the 2 m telescope in India, and girl with the 6 m telescope in Russia, from reporting their findings. NASA doesn't own the sky, everybody can watch. The only group that I know of with deep space radar ability that could track these objects without depending on their light reflective quality....is the USAF....and they won't divulge that kind of data to the general public without authorisation from the bigshots! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3579277 Apparently you have never heard of the 305 metre (that's a 1,000 feet) radar dish at the Arecibo Observatory. (Operated by a private research institute.) They mapped Venus with that. Reaching for the sky makes you taller. Hi! My name is Halcyon Dayz and I'm addicted to morans. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1345673 Australia10/30/2011 10:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I said this fly-by isn't unique. Quoting: Halcyon Dayz, FCD I didn't mention physical characteristics because they are irrelevant. If YU55 were made of solid gold it wouldn't change a thing. Here you go, I have obtained some information on Yu55 in the form of an article that should be along the lines of your interlectual capacity of which you have demonstrated in earlier conversation. It's not a "fly-by" as you dispute, but actually a "Drive-by" according to this article lol: [link to www.brianjohnpiccolo.com] Are you slow-witted? And why are you linking to an astrologer? That's hilarious. Get a higher level source, they got pictures. [link to www.news.cornell.edu] [link to neo.jpl.nasa.gov] When was the first time you heard of YU55? Last week? I can keep track of these things. I might not be "interlectual" but I know my stuff. As I said composition and make up is irrelevant to orbital mechanics. Being spherical doesn't make it go faster, you know. No air in space. I agree, we aren't talking aerodynamics involving weight and drag from surface area however, forces such as that of elecro-magnetic, such as excitment of electrons or centrifugal forces aka. "gravitational slingshots" do though. Look at the following clip at 2:24 and look at the "fly-by" of Yu55, would the mass of the Moon have a gravitational pull that would pull the asteroid into Earth? [link to www.youtube.com] These would dependant on the objects physical characteristics such as density and mineral composition. And when i posed the question before it was relating to the question of the affect of the tides on earth, resulting from gravitational constant interaction with the moon when Yu55 passes. It was not about the unique physical properties changing on "fly-by". |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1345673 Australia10/30/2011 10:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think you are missing the point, it's not about an asteroid (Yu55)impacting Earth, it's about the gravitational effects the interaction will have in relation to the Moon in its passing. An example would be on tidal action. On a side note if you going to tell me to use links such as you provided in your example and go into topic of orbital mechanics, practise what you preach and start sourcing some of the theroetical and practical aspects. I ask this is so I can better understand the significance in properties and dynamics in what you are tryng to convey. If you wish, I will do the same. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 836789 United States10/30/2011 10:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | our, and i use the word loosely, govt. decided long ago not to inform the public about any thing that would impact earth until just days before impact. ohbummer changed that to 1 day. since then only the dummies rely on govt. sites, like nasa, for info. we all have the freedom to think, that is unless you are a freeloading liberal and only forward ohbummers thoughts. at least following these conspiracy thoerists gives us a little warning, even if they aren't right all the time, and we can get prepared. |
| Dease (OP) User ID: 1505901 United States10/30/2011 09:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | An act of God is not too far-fetched, considering Revalation talks about God pouring out his judgment upon the Earth. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1505901 One village at the time? It's a 400 metre rock, rather miserly judgement if you ask me. God is by definition all-powerful, no need to pre-position the ammo. He can create it at will where and when he wants. And why are you warning people anyway? Since God is all-powerful only those He wants to die will die, and all of those He wants to die will die, and no one He doesn't want to die will die. You can not change that. Sorry to throw logic at you, I know it's not a fair fight. Sorry to correct you. The Bible says to spread the word. We are commanded to go and tell everyone what God has done for us, and to be prepared for Christ's return like a pure bride awaiting her groom. The church is the bride that Jesus speaks of, and we are to tell everyone, so that we can prepare our hearts and be holy and pure when that day comes. That is why I am warning people. If I can keep one person from having Hell as their eternal home, then it was worth it. It talks about stars, and fire falling from the sky, and men hiding in caves and wanting to die.....coincedence? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1505901 Sounds pretty typical for doom fiction. John gets a lot more imaginative when the monster shows up. Are you aware that this baby swings by Earth every other year? And that we haven't found all of these rocks yet? This fly-by just isn't very unique. As far as this being typical, please observe some of the links that others have posted on this forum. Everything is exceptionally unique about this siutation. The main thing aside from the astroid's physical feature and proximity to Earth would be the precations that NASA, FEMA, and the U.S. government are taking. Please read into this before saying it's nothing! "Be strong and courageous. Do not be afraid or terrified because of them, for the LORD your God goes with you; he will never leave you nor forsake you." - Matthew 22: 37-39 "What good will it be for a man if he gains the whole world, yet forfeits his soul? Or what can a man give in exchange for his soul?" - Galatians 5: 22-23 |
| Dease (OP) User ID: 1505901 United States10/30/2011 09:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No one can be certain of anything. They may "predict" certain things to be at certain distances. Doesn't mean it will turn out that way, that's why it's called a prediction or an estimate and not a guarantee. If I were God, I'd make it hit just to smite the scientist know-it-all's. Quoting: shannonmarie1979 1486993 Don't be silly. "Barring Acts of God" always is the implied caveat. And a literal Act of God is pretty much what it would take to translate this rock 325,000 km closer to Earth in just 10 days. What happened to polar motion at the dates from recent Chile and Japan quakes happened, compared to what happened in September. Relevance to the rock in space? Relevance = if rotation changed significantly, what's to say JPL orbit diagram's supplied are upto date and accurate? If Earth is a constant gravitational "tug" interaction with the Moon, which has an influence on Earth tides, what would the effect of having Yu55 interacting inbetween the two result in? By asking this, I refer more to the asteroid's potential interferance with the "tug" interaction aspect, more than the influence of its physical mass itself. That is an EXCELLENT question! Even if there is not a "direct hit", the gravitational "tug" could still possibly be affected. If we look back, there were tsunamis and earthquakes on days of Elenin's alignment. Although it did not physically impact Earth, the gravitational tug interaction had an effect. This will be much closer to Earth than Elenin, and could therefore have an even bigger effect. Great point! "Be strong and courageous. Do not be afraid or terrified because of them, for the LORD your God goes with you; he will never leave you nor forsake you." - Matthew 22: 37-39 "What good will it be for a man if he gains the whole world, yet forfeits his soul? Or what can a man give in exchange for his soul?" - Galatians 5: 22-23 |
| Dease (OP) User ID: 1505901 United States10/31/2011 12:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You are all assuming that NASA is divulging ALL info on asteroids that are coming near the Earth. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3579277 What if YU55 is just one of a group of asteroids that will come close to Earth during the period...9 - 11 November? And one....or several of the others will hit the Earth....they may have a low albedo, (Light reflective strength) and are difficult to spot visually. The only group that I know of with deep space radar ability that could track these objects without depending on their light reflective quality....is the USAF....and they won't divulge that kind of data to the general public without authorisation from the bigshots! YU55 may be seen by the authorities as a kind of safe flag - a diversion....right up to....maybe the Emergency broadcast on the 9th of November....when we get to hear about the 'true' data? Good point! I agree with that as well. It's easy (especially for Americans) to assume that NASA and the govt. tell us everything. We have been taught to look to them for answers. These leaders also claim to be forthcoming and trustworthy. While I'm not saying they intentionally lie, they may be trying to avoid mass panic, and want the time and privacy to come up with a protective plan without our interference. Astroid YU55 could very well have "friends" coming along with it. And you're right, the USAF would never reveal such information. "Be strong and courageous. Do not be afraid or terrified because of them, for the LORD your God goes with you; he will never leave you nor forsake you." - Matthew 22: 37-39 "What good will it be for a man if he gains the whole world, yet forfeits his soul? Or what can a man give in exchange for his soul?" - Galatians 5: 22-23 |
