How does it feel to be screwed? I am the elect and will not be fooled.

what do you coonsider to be the Elect? and who are they?

Those who seek the truth.

You see, you cannot find the truth if you are not looking for it. Most, in fact almost all people take what is told to them and file it away as truth.

That will be your downfall my frends.

While those of the churches holler for love, they will invite the tares into the fold, that will be their destruction.

Love without understanding, that is Satans strategy.

Practice living without this guy

Folks its really ridiculous. The truth is out there but people have been conditioned not to look for it.

They have taken what has been handed to them from the elites and their acceptance is their destruction.

OP, "I never knew you."

Jesus, You not only know me you chose me.

The rest are sadly blinded by their own ignorance and will suffer the fate they have created for themselves.

is jesus black or white?

The secret of this is really no secret for those who read the bible.

But.......one must seek Strongs concordance for understanding.

Adam or awdawm is Hebrew for show blood in the face or red.

Meaning.

Adam had or could have rosy cheeks or blush. Since other races cannot do this Adam was white.

Now take the next step.

Jesus was in Adams line. Check Luke and Matthew for verification.

Jesus was white.

blond or brunette?

Yes, that is why God gives those that ain't lookin' the stupor. They ain't gettin' it now, so, Jesus' 1000 years
reign...well, there's gonna be a whole lot of people on the front row.

Gracious God has closed their ears on purpose...

When the elect shares to someone...most can't even hear
what you tell them. Their eyes just glaze over
and start thinking about happy hour.


Pray For The True Of Jerusalem

Hey folks got another ignorant clown. Point proven. If you are not looking for the truth, how can you find it?

Very true AC 814, You really can't help them. They will wallow in their ignorance and pay the price.

Let's assume that everyone, in fact the whole world decides to come to jesus....they stop creating this FATE you speak of, wouldn't that be great?

But the problem with that is that if this happens, then the bible won't come true. Why? Well, it has already written of an outcome before it ever had a chance of occurring. In essence if the bad side don't have a chance to change neither can the supposedly good side effect their own outcomes. In essence your dogmatic and elusive search for salvation is an absolute waste of time.

There are two perspectives to this rapture story. It is either...

1. false and an empty promise to give people hope or an excuse for them to do nothing while the prison walls are built around them and in fact they contributing to building their own prisons or

2. true and the criteria will be how brainwashed you are as to surrender your will power to beings posing as saviours.

How can you have free will to be saved in a story book that has already written an end or an outcome long before people ever had a chance to make a choice. It is an impossibility and if people are actually raptured, then it will be for some other reasons...for instance how brainwashed they are with the bible or how programmed or coded they've allowed themselves to become. The bible in fact leaves people's choices and will to be swayed by the political rulership. You could more or else be a biological robot and slave if you can't effect the outcome of an event.

Let's assume the UN workers and the Army (those that work for the beast) all flood to jesus and are saved, then no one will fight the wars and the bible won't come true. Since they have no choice but to fulfil the evil plans of the bible which will in no doubt lead them to hell, then neither do christians have a say in their destinies and their elusive search for salvation, for what is not lost, is an absolute waste of time.

Everyone's destinies according to the bible is already determined, unless of course the innocent people that work for the Army and the beast have a choice to not work for it anymore therefore not performing the duties of the beast and as such wars won't take place an the bible won't be true.

Leave christians alone to their twisted way of thinking, perhaps they will understand soon how futile the practice is. How can there be freewill in an already completed story of which no one is able to change the outcome?

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those who seek truth can pertaine to anything.. the Elect are s specific people.. A Bloodline of the 12 Hebrew tribes.. If you're in in that you're not the elect.. Not saying gentiles won't make it into the kingdom because some will, but, the Elect are Hebrew Idraelites and no truth seeking can change a person's Lineage, it can only make them aware of it.

OHwell,

The elect are not waiting for the rapture.

what are you waiting for then?

A ride.

Rapture, salvation, christianity etc. are all deception packaged as good. Unfortunately, it will take your individual research and your god given will, rights and freedom to come to this conclusion.

A good place to start is observing events that have transpired in the last decade or so, do your own analysis by asking the very tough questions and don't be moved by what the blind masses believe in. You owe yourself that much and that truth.

Last Edited by Ohwell on 12/11/2011 02:06 AM

Guess I'll have a little fun here.

Folks the bible as you know it was written by Jerome of the Roman Catholic church which ruled the world with a murderous iron fist for over a thousand years.

The world gentile is the english version of "Gentilis" which means kinsman, clan, or family.

Now what does that mean?

The gentiles were kin to the ancient israelites. In Matthew Jesus tells us He only came for the lost tribes of Israel. After completeing His talk (John 17:4) and brining the lost tribes of Israel back into the fold......


The Israelites task was to convert the Gentiles or "gentilis" or their kinsman.

Or...............their lost blood brothers.


Romans 11 Paul tells us:
13 ¶ For I speak to you Gentiles, inasmuch as I am the apostle of the Gentiles, I magnify mine office:
14 if by any means I may provoke to emulation them which are my flesh, and might save some of them.

Did you get it? Paul is of the same flesh i.e. kinsman.

You need to think out of the "box".

You are incorrect about bloodline. The elect are all types
of people, not just from 12 flesh bloodline tribes...

The elect begins in the first earth age...they are
those who stood up and fought against Lucifer and the third that followed him in Lucifer's attempted overthrow of God's Throne.

But they failed...and Lucifer was sentenced to death...hence,
"son of perdition".

Translation!

Maybe you got fooled for thinking you're so damn special?

Thats the problem with Christianity. Yes, everyone is special but no more special than the next guy. Its created division beyond measure with everyone wanting a piece of this jesus and feel they have a better part of him mostly because of their economic affluence. Its like monkeys fighting over who has more peanuts than the other.

Why don't the jesus you serve ask you to turn your back on the system and prove himself by providing for your needs in the wilderness rather than he working through the evil-corrupt system, asking you to give unto Caesar to assist him expand his empire, making you an effective and much needed slave for the system.


You aint seen anything with the brainwashing of christianity.

Caesar?

Julius Caesar. Really just the system of government and to allow it perpetuate itself. Jesus doesn't prove himself by allowing you to turn your back on it and he in essence provide for you without the aid of the system or you working for it.

that is not true entirely. Adam is H120, which means 1st man.. Esau/Edom was Red/Ruddy and those 2 names are Totally different in Meaning.. Adam was Formed from the Dirt of the Ground..

Christ was decribes and having skin of Brass and Brass BURNT in Fire, and Wooly Hair..I know white people Tan and can get a Little Tan But not Black like Burnt Brass in a furnace and I never saw a white person with Wooly hair like a Negro/African American

Judah also Came from Adam and just as Christ was described
as having Negro/Black features, they Both were referenced to being the color of the dirt onf the Ground

Jeremiah 14:2, Job30:30, Lamentation 5:10, Jeremiah 8:21 and so many over verses.. so the Color of the hebrews and Christ is Impossible to refute.. The Bible make it more than clear they are Black..

Many of the people who had come to visit Mary saw the things that Jesus did, and they put their faith in him. Others went to the Pharisees and told what Jesus had done. Then the chief priests and the Pharisees called the council together and said, "What should we do? This man is working a lot of miracles. If we don't stop him now, everyone will put their faith in him. Then the Romans will come and destroy our temple and our nation." One of the council members was Caiaphas, who was also high priest that year. He spoke up and said, "You people don't have any sense at all! Don't you know it is better for one person to die for the people than for the whole nation to be destroyed?" Caiaphas did not say this on his own. As high priest that year, he was prophesying that Jesus would die for the nation. Yet Jesus would not die just for the Jewish nation. He would die to bring together all of God's scattered people. From that day on, the council started making plans to put Jesus to death.
(John 11:45-53)