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captain obvious User ID: 42496 United States 11/18/2005 12:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wouldnīt it be a shame if you missed the 2nd greatest gift ever offered because you had a closed mind and a preconceived notion of what "should" happen rather than just living in each momnet and seeing the truth of it as you experience it without prejudging it before it even gets here. Ascension is a real experience and it will be offered to many. |
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Aeric, Consular User ID: 633 Canada 11/18/2005 12:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Doesnīt The Rapture sound like a lie told to keep followers happy and to scare non-followers into being followers? The whole Rapture things certainly sounds like a scare tactic to me. Namaste, ~Aeric "Man is free at the moment he wishes to be." --Voltaire |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 5069 United Kingdom 11/18/2005 05:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Also, there is no star system called Osirus. This was the name of the Egyptian god murdered by his brother Seth. Perhaps you were thinking of Sirius, the Dog Star. Finally, as others have stated, there is no biblical basis for the fundamentalist fantasy of the īrapture.ī Stop making up what you want to believe and return to what the bible actually says. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1404 United States 11/18/2005 06:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You can call them extraterestrials and aliens all you want but donīt be deceived. They are the fallen angels pulling the perverbial wool over stupid peoples eyes. The stupid people on planet earth will buy it hook line and sinker. That consists of no less then 73% of human kind and maybe up to 92% of all mankind. Looks like it also includes you. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1404 United States 11/18/2005 06:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | First things first. Forget my previous post. I seem to have addressed this thread wrongly somewhat. You are deceived already even if you recognize that theose things pretending to be from space are fallen angels. However you screw off into church fantasy land when you involve the false doctrine of the rapture. Seems we have here one of the rapture cultists that like the idea he hasnīt gotten enough truth to keep him out of hell. Secondly you try to draw a line from demons to angels. Angels(even fallen angels) and demons are not the same creature. Demons are the disembodied spirits of the "giants" in Genesis 6. They, those giant, are the offspring of angels and human women according to the scripture. You see, our spirit is an energy like thing that simply animates our bodies. Those giants were really no different in that respect. But unlike those giants our spirit is given by God. Theirs was not. So when the flood and Isrealites took them out they did not have the same luxury we have in that our spirit returns to God. Their spirits were doomed to wonder bodieless until the end. And just like their fathers the fallen angels they hate mankind and want to see us all dead. What you posted minus that rapture lie clap trap would have been an alright scifi thread but itīs plain to see your deceived butt really believes the lies you posted. A true liar, opposed to telling a lie which does not necesssarily make you a "liar" believes his or her own lies. True liars fight endlessly to keep their lie going as though it is actually the truth. Liar. |
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One who knows! User ID: 11931 United States 11/18/2005 07:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP so let me guess, YOU are one of the 144,000 worthy people that will be rapture when Jesus comes? First off, what you say MAY be true I am NOT denying it, but the problem with your statements is proof. You have no idea for certain that these space people are demons. Now do you? That is YOUR theory and nothing more. Why donīt you state this? Second of all, the bible is quite clear that God made both heaven and earth. Are you so shallow that, it can not even enter into your mind, that God in his wisdom and knowledge might have made other beings besides us? If you are of God, and Jesus is in your heart, you have nothing to fear from space people. God is God and would quicken you to know if these being are evil or not. However you judge before facts and events occur. There are ways to find out forsure if they are of God or not. HOWEVER you judge them, like you do others before you even see them or know them. Now in my book that is a VERY UNGODLY trait. What is an UNGODLY trait in your eyes? Where do UNGODLY traits come from? Prejudges, angry, strife, rebellion, etc. Do they come from someone else? Someone who claims they know the truth, but has no proof to back them up? Please show me in the bible where it says that aliens are demons. Please show me in the bible where it says that aliens will visit the earth and fool people into believing they are of God? Show me, and when you do, DO NOT show me scripture that YOU interpret as being such. I want the real McCoy, not your interpretation of it. If you believe even parts of the bible you MUST believe the whole thing. Until you can show REAL worded proof in the bible that aliens are demons, this is nothing but a theory you have!! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 6834 United States 11/18/2005 07:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP, there will be Aliens come...They are the resurrected beings and Jesus will lead them. But the time is not yet. We have 140 years before that happens. The rapture, as taught, has been interpeted wrong from a couple of verses that Paul wrote. It will not happen as the churches teach it! These are man made precepts that Jesus warned us about. When the time comes, our bodies will be changed and we will be resurrected in the blink of an eye as Paul said, but itīs not going to be some mass evacuation of the saints as is currently taught. |
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Spirit of Truth User ID: 9223 United States 11/18/2005 08:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | True followers are the ones who come out of the Babylon whore Satan Christmas Easter pagan manmade 666 religion.The doers.If you celebrate Thanksgiving you are not a doer.The Babylon whore religion is the cause of mankindīs suffering. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 17371 United States 11/18/2005 08:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ^TrInItY^: "wow reverse the bible now there is a thought!" Itīs being done as we write! The spirit of antichrist has been very busy, most notably in the works of media: TV, movies, books, magazines, even in the pulpits. And itīs going to get worse. There was a thread here stating that there will be a gay parade in Jeruselem next year, the city where our Lord was crucified. Is this not the antichrist, who hates Jesus? It flies in the face of everything He taught! Jesus said the last days will be as those before the flood, horrible things being done...incest, bestiality, homosexuality, cannabalism, murders, rapes, etc. Do we not see and/or hear of many more evils, all taking place now? Paul said that in the last days would come men without conscience and we would live in perilous (life-threatening) times. Now we have the Vatican saying we have to go along with the gods of science in believing that we are a product of evolution! Well then, let them prove this theory. True scientists know better, but the sheeple will believe it anyway, not being able to think logically for themselves. I truly believe that there is a plan afoot to wipe out every living Jew on the face of the earth, because it is through them that we are believers. Once they are gone and their history wiped out, were it possible, it would be an easy step to claim the Bible to be nothing more than a myth, a book of fables. Of course, their plan will fail because of the promises of Christ. . |
EARTHANGEL User ID: 16344 Netherlands 11/18/2005 09:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Operation Blue Beam author: repost A program to really ´beam Scotty up´! OR How to "Fake the Rapture"? Project Blue Beam A program to really ´beam Scotty up´! OR How to "Fake the Rapture"? Since the mid 1990´s whispers have abounded from "Intel" circles in the military and scientific community about a strange series of scientific testing programs. One is called HAARP. Another is called PROJECT BLUE BEAM. It seems that in reality, if we believe the sources (and some have rather impeccable scientific credentials...one is even a born-again Christian scientist -- Dr. Nick Begich) then our government, or shadowy elements of the military have developed not simply awesome shooting weapons, but also mind-bending weapons of the mind. Project Blue Beam is just one of those mind-bending programs that could seriously impact upon a person´s moral values and sanity. Project Blue Beam is a special operations program that is tied into other exotic physics projects like the HAARP program in Alaska. HAARP is a program that in very simplistic terms shoots high energy beams of scalar physics technology (Nikolai Tesla technology) that cooks the upper atmosphere of the planet. One of the many possible uses of this technology involves the capability to project images of massive size out into the sky. In fact, Project Blue Beam is a program designed to project religious images into the sky in a hologram presentation. It´s like television without a box providing a visual stimulus without any apparent electronic receivers so that anyone who is sighted could see it. What is even more astounding is that the technology is even so advanced now that the equipment can beam electronic signals to the brains of blind people so that even they can "see" the hologram, although in reality they can´t. Does that sound crazy? Hold on a minute. There´s more to this story. The program also has the capability to project voice sound into the head of a witness without it being heard in the person´s ear. Yes, the sounds would go directly to the brain from electronic impulses. And, with new super-computer technology it will be possible for super-computers and satellites to interact with your brain from space and have the voice of "God" respond to your thoughts as you see "Jesus" in the sky!!! Now is that tooooooo far out to even contemplate? Well, I agree. It´s too far out. Yet, reputable sources out there say that its not only possible and doable but is being readied to actually be used at the right moment to fool the world into thinking Jesus Christ, the Son of God has returned to Earth. Now, I don´t blame you if you don´t believe me. I wouldn´t either. I´m not totally certain of it, myself. I wonder if perhaps its just some other disinformation campaign being presented by someone in the shadows with an agenda. However, IF it were true... well, it would sure explain how the whole world swallows the PR of the Antichrist. And if it were possible, "even the very elect" could be deceived (as Paul tells us). There is a lot of material floating around on the internet about this issue. Below is one article that we´ve picked up that gives a pretty good explanation and lots of links to do your own follow up investigations. Check out the links and then let us know what you think about this. Is it simply too outrageous to be true? Well we figure its better to be forewarned in case it really is true. "Electronic Sorcery & Blue Beam Technology: Tools of the Fourth Beast" IT´S JACK ON THE BEAN STALK IN THE SKY...NO... IT´S FIRE IN THE SKY...NO...IT´S A FALSE GOD IN THE SKY! The "operation" is easy to EXPLAIN and REVEAL technologically. Holography, a technique for obtaining 3-dimensional images, involves an interference pattern between 2 sets of single-wavelength light waves. A single laser beam is split into two parts, one to illuminate the object, the second part (called the reference beam) is reflected by a mirror. The two beams meet forming an interference pattern, which is developed to form a hologram. This hologram can be used to re-create a 3-dimensional image of the original object. According to a comprehensive report by Canadian investigative journalist, Serge Monast, entitled Project Blue Beam, this holographic technology used in conjunction with hi-tech, mind-control weapons utilizing the effects of radio-frequency waves upon the brain, is capable of projecting an image in the sky and causing collective thought to convince people they are seeing an alien invasion or the second coming of Christ. The Blue Beam Project will pretend to be the universal fulfillment of the prophecies of old. In principle, it will make use of the sky as a movie screen space-based, laser-generating satellites project simultaneous images to every part of the planet, in every language, in every dialect according to region. Specifically, the show will consist of laser projections of multiple holographic images to different parts of the world, each receiving different images according to predominating regional/national religious faiths. No area will be excluded. With computer animation and sound effects appearing to come from the depths of space, astonished followers of the various creeds will witness their own returned Messiah in spectacularly convincing lifelike realness. The various saviors will then merge into one after "correct" explanations of the mysteries, prophecies, and revelations will have been disclosed. This event will occur at a time of great political and general tumult. [Seems like surely this is a good time to meet those requirements.] The Blue Beam Project, developed by NASA scientists, consists of 4 parts, 4 steps toward the implementation of the NWO religion with the Antichrist at its head. First, earthquakes at certain precise locations of the planet will result in new archaeological discoveries, revealing that all religions´ basic doctrines have been misunderstood and misinterpreted. Second, a gigantic Space Show with laser projections of multiple 3-dimensional holographic images worldwide, will appear to be the image of God, speaking in all languages. Third, electronic telepathy involving ELF, VLF, and LF waves will reach people by the inside of their brains, interlacing and interweaving with the natural thinking to form diffused artificial thought and making each one to believe that God is speaking to them from within their own souls. Fourth, electronic universal "supernatural" manifestation designed to deceive will create the following illusion: make mankind believe an alien invasion is imminent, make Christians believe a rapture is imminent and the aliens have come to rescue them, and convince all that global satanic supernatural forces and manifestations penetrating worldwide - able to travel through optical fiber, coaxial cable, electric and phone lines - are everywhere and inescapable The obstacle is not the holography itself but rather the ELF that will be waged that must be counteracted. When ELF is used on a person all their senses alter. You may see things that are truly there but others won´t be able to see. Yet at the same time you could capture these powers of darkness on film. Though I do think that Blue Beam will be in conjunction with the actual inner and outter invasion of the fallen angels and demons of Revelation chapter 9 in some way. We can get into counteracting the ELF after awhile. This is a lot of information here. I just went to my website I´ve been working on -and paying for. It seems it was taken down. I don´t guess they like what i had on it. LOL But I´m still being charged so this is not so cool. However, I did have a resever copy of the article I had done awhile back on the ELF-Blue Beam connection. ~kw Electronic Sorcery & Blue Beam Technology: Tools of the Fourth Beast ELF is a tool of the Luciferian Elite. It is the New Age version of withcraft, hence electronic sorcery. Basically they direct the extremely low frequencies (ELF) at the person they choose for whatever reasoning they have that the targeted person is a dissident. The ELF will put the person into altered states, many times the person doesn´t even realize this. Yet, this is not an altered state as in Hindu like meditations. Basically the brain simply has no firewall to block frequencies. Just as a computer can not restrain a hacker from hacking into a computer without a firewall. This Luciferian tool will be used in conjunction with Blue Beam Technology, better known as Project Blue Beam, to be the voice of the SO-CALLED God, but shall in fact be deceiveing spirits. The effects of ELF on a person can vary based upon length of being hit with the waves, frequency setting, or both. Some of the symptoms are as follows (yet will always be more than two symptoms per zap): 1. Slight to a complete loss of concentration, memory, and an overall blanking out for a few seconds to a few minutes. 2. Dizziness 3. Drop dead in your tracks fatigue in which you just MUST sleep without an otherwise known cause. You may find yourself sleeping from 12-20 hours at a time. 4. Immediate wired effect in which you feel as if you´re on major amounts of caffeine or even cocaine. You may stay awake for 22-48 hours with no sleep, all the while still feeling wired. 5. Ringing, buzzing, popping, clicking, humming sound within the ears. This may even be painful to the extent it feels as though something sharp is pounding your eardrum(s). 6. Altered taste-metallic taste. 7. Pressurized feeling within your head. 8. Images of light, as in an ´aurora,´ from an image you just looked at. Beams of light may also be seen. This can happen anywhere. 9. Voice(s) inside the brain that are not your own or the Holy Spirit, yet is LIKE the Holy Spirit. (If you are a target and it is used on you too often it will become difficult to tell the difference whether it is the voice synthizier in the ELF or the Holy Spirit!) 10. Just KNOWING where to look to see a UFO. You look and sure enough one shows up. 11. You may become paralyzed in bed while a voice commands you to not resist. (You may feel a presence by your bed when this occurs.) 12. Lucid dreaming. 13. Flashes of light 14. You may hear voices coming from your electronic equipment that shouldn´t be 15. You may have high body heat--as in a hot flash that lingers on for hours 16. DURING this you may have ´visions´ of phantoms, balls of light, demons, aliens (fallen angels), etc. [Remember not all such ´visitations´ are due to ELF, but can also be from God. The Bible states in Num 22:31, 2 Ki 6:17 that the LORD "opened the eyes" of some people so that they could see into the spirit world. This was His will. On the other hand, it may simply be due to involvement in the occult. Such spirits in that case will always be Luciferian in nature and, therefore, be of Satan himself. ] 17. You may have an INvolulentary out of body experience 18. Rapid heart rate while sitting still, without medical or physical cause. 19. Seeing through closed eyelids 20. Kundalini experiences Now the above is not even a complete listing of the effects of ELF (extremely low frequency weapons). Now do you see why it is WISE to investigate ELF BEFORE this nation slides any further into the Abyss? I sure do hope so. When you put this together with Blue Beam Technology you get one ripen headache! Blue Beam technology will be used to bring about the New World Order, the Antichrist kingdom, and the fourth beast, which will be used in the final stages prior to the Antichrist appearance. However, many will believe Blue Beam is in fact the Antichrist, or the messiah (false). DON´T be a fool! Blue Beam has existed for decades and has been used extensively in many areas, including the Gulf War. All the while it is being refined. However, the ultimate purpose still awaits. YOU have time to prepare for just in case you are here when it´s in use. With the new Homeland Defense office setting up the way it is with the New Nazi Tom Ridge as the head surely it won´t be long. The camps, or prisons as they´re called, are being made ready now. The laws are being revised, revoked, and new laws are taking its place. Soon it will be time to flee into the wilderness. When we do certainly the Nazi foxes will come looking for us and use their weaponry to gain a foothold. KNOW the plans and symptoms of ELF so you can recognize it and fight it when the day comes. Make hard copies NOW of such websites as over 5000 websites have shutdown since 9-11-01. The battle is for the mind! Below are some links for Project Blue Beam information. What is the Blue Beam Project? [link to www.trufax.org] CHINA´S UFO SIGHTINGS---PROJECT BLUE BEAM IN ACTION??? [link to www.Gas_oven.com] BLUE BEAM DIANA CONNECTION? [link to www.shout.net] PROJECT BLUE BEAM PATROL --"In cooperation with TRW Space and Technology,NASA and other world space agencies, the Bilderberg group has developed a series of three stationary satellites with advanced laser technology that enable them to project holographic images onto the earth´s surface from outer space! This amazing technology allows Project Blue Beam Patrol to create holographic decoys of Police Officers that will patrol our city streets along with and among our own finest. The criminals will not be able to tell which are the real officers and which are the holograms." ---DEAD LINK LASER-BEAM PSYOPS--More On Project Blue Beam [link to www.sonic.net] HOLOGRAMS AND UFO´S?--A "Defense Weekly" article dated 31 March 1997, describes a quasi-information warfare/ psychological operations programme that was discussed by the USAF after Operation "Desert Storm" in the Gulf War. This involves projection of a three-dimensional holographic image to act as decoys. The Pentagon would have enjoyed seeing ´an angry God´ or some other form of religious imagery appear above the battlefield. [link to www.ar.utexas.edu] NASA BLUE BEAM PROJECT--The infamous NASA Blue Beam Project has four different steps in order to implement the new age religion with the antichrist at its head. We must remember that the new age religion is the very foundation for the new world government, without which religion the dictatorship of the new world order is completely impossible. [link to www.ar.utexas.edu] PROJECT BLUE BEAM--Excerpts of World Freedom Information Network, Evolve 2 Magazine--The "revelation" herein is to stop, look and listen before you jump off the cliff into the arms of an illusion. The "operation" is easy to EXPLAIN and REVEAL technologically. [link to members.aol.com] GOOD LORD! WHAT IN HEAVEN´S NAME IS THAT?--We are in Baghdad in 1991, and something strange is happening. A hush falls over the city as a huge shimmering face materialises in the sky. Soldiers and citizens prostrate themselves as each hears the voice of Allah, commanding them to overthrow the evil and treacherous Saddam Hussein. Within minutes an angry mob is storming the palace as the guards flee ... [link to www.smh.com.au] [link to www.truinsight.com] "EXPERIMENTS INTO REMOTE MIND CONTROL TECHNOLOGY [link to members.tripod.com] EXPOSING the LUCIFERIC New World Order--New Ageism--Ecumenism agenda, aliens, UFO´s,occultism, Black Government, mind control, etc., in a Biblical manner. [link to groups.yahoo.com] To contact the author: [email protected] Copyright 2001 All Rights Reserved. The above article "Electronic Sorcery & Blue Beam Technology: Tools of the Fourth Beast" may be transmitted without expressed permission by the author, Kristina Webb, IF left fully intact as it was originally published by the author. [link to groups.yahoo.com] |
Allen1 User ID: 2076 United States 11/18/2005 09:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Bible has already been proven to be nothing more than myth and fable, 14146, so there is obviously a big hole in your theory. Not disputing the concerted effort to purge a certain genetic lineage but this goes broader and "deeper" than your current thinking. You already believe exactly as "they" want you to because your bible and resulting belief system is the creation of those which you would call anti-christ. In a manner of speaking, "reversing" what it has taught you is the first step to uncovering the deception. To figure out whatīs really going on I suggest you set aside the religious programming and follow the trail where it actually leads. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 17371 United States 11/18/2005 10:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | For your Information, 5741, I have not been programmed. I read and studied the Bible for quite some time, and am quite comfortable with what I found, living my life accordingly. I imagine that the trail you are following is the one you would have me take? I will not go where angels fear to tread, on a convoluted road that leads to destruction. Thanks but no thanks. Iīll take the road less traveled. . |
AC User ID: 31303 United States 11/18/2005 10:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | IMHO, demon spirits are not fallen angels. Demons are the spirits of the pre-Adamic races who inhabited the earth when Lucifer was the sole ruler (Isaiah ch. 14) Angel do not inhabit the bodies of humans, or human figures. They have entirely different characteristics than demon spirits. |
Allen1 User ID: 2076 United States 11/18/2005 12:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "I imagine that the trail you are following is the one you would have me take?" Not at all. For one, you have too much fear. And second, you cannot walk anotherīs path any more than another can walk your path for you. Thatīs an important one. "Thanks but no thanks. I´ll take the road less traveled." |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 278 United States 11/18/2005 01:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hence, the get certain events to sync up with our time, while giving you its own suggestions and interpretations for what it means. Furthermore, it warns you of being deceived, but the jokeīs on you. Thatīs my conclusion. |
hi User ID: 4475 United States 11/18/2005 01:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | lucifer wants you to put the bible down and step away and go kiss someone right now and then sing a song about it. it is ok that you want to keep reading and ignore lucifer. however, stealing lucifers girl with a maze of lies is not recommended. |
Allen1 User ID: 2076 United States 11/18/2005 01:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And a wise conclusion it is, 1481. But you already know that. Anyone who dares to look objectively will naturally arrive at the same conclusion. Most appear content to have others do their thinking for them. Thus, they will arrive at that natural conclusion. |
Lucifer User ID: 2702 Canada 11/18/2005 01:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well.......I kinda miss my boyfriend Hussein....he was a badboy and all.....but he satisfied my needs......as for extraterrestrials? I saw a UFO once and an Alien tried to probe me....think something was in my drink too.....but nah...my demons are not masqerading as Aliens.......thats boring... |
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