Can someone tell me why pastors going on record saying Homosexuality is okay? | |
Resister User ID: 1461638 United States 05/10/2012 12:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Prophetic fulfillment of the apostacy of the church in the end times. "God forbid we should ever be 20 years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, & always, well informed... If they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty... Let them take arms... What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. " - Thomas Jefferson in 1787 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 15817450 United States 05/10/2012 12:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am greatly saddened to see pastors coming out against Amendment 1? Pastors are charged to teach Gods word, yet they are leading people astray. Quoting: Talus God said marriage is between a man and woman. Jesus confirmed it. So, if only a man and woman can be married then a same homosexual marriage is not a spiritual marriage. Jesus also said that any sex outside of marriage is a sin. If a homosexual couple can not be married, then any sex they have would be considered outside of marriage. (The same is true for heterosexual sex.) Thus it is a sin. It might be a technicality but it is a logical conclusion to arrive at. Someone please tell me if there is a flaw in this logic. And to the unbelievers, I know you are gonna say that there is no God, thus no law against what I posted. I am not interested in you trying to convince me my beliefs are wrong. I and steadfast in my faith and can not be turned aside. I am aiming this post towards those who do believe and would like to know their thoughts on this matter. Amendment 1 Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances. [link to www.usconstitution.net] Please read the constitution before actually talking about it, ok? It doesn't say a thing about what pastors can or cannot say. |
Talus (OP) User ID: 15661808 United States 05/10/2012 12:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am greatly saddened to see pastors coming out against Amendment 1? Pastors are charged to teach Gods word, yet they are leading people astray. Quoting: Talus God said marriage is between a man and woman. Jesus confirmed it. So, if only a man and woman can be married then a same homosexual marriage is not a spiritual marriage. Jesus also said that any sex outside of marriage is a sin. If a homosexual couple can not be married, then any sex they have would be considered outside of marriage. (The same is true for heterosexual sex.) Thus it is a sin. It might be a technicality but it is a logical conclusion to arrive at. Someone please tell me if there is a flaw in this logic. And to the unbelievers, I know you are gonna say that there is no God, thus no law against what I posted. I am not interested in you trying to convince me my beliefs are wrong. I and steadfast in my faith and can not be turned aside. I am aiming this post towards those who do believe and would like to know their thoughts on this matter. Amendment 1 Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances. [link to www.usconstitution.net] Please read the constitution before actually talking about it, ok? It doesn't say a thing about what pastors can or cannot say. Sorry, I may not have made myself clear. (Or you did not watch the video.) I am referring to the amendment to the NC state constitution. I agree that everyone has freedom of speech. However, these people are spreading a false doctrine that could lead people they have been charged with teaching into sin. And what rough beast, its hour come round at last, Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born? - Yeats, 1919 |
Resister User ID: 1461638 United States 05/10/2012 12:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am greatly saddened to see pastors coming out against Amendment 1? Pastors are charged to teach Gods word, yet they are leading people astray. Quoting: Talus God said marriage is between a man and woman. Jesus confirmed it. So, if only a man and woman can be married then a same homosexual marriage is not a spiritual marriage. Jesus also said that any sex outside of marriage is a sin. If a homosexual couple can not be married, then any sex they have would be considered outside of marriage. (The same is true for heterosexual sex.) Thus it is a sin. It might be a technicality but it is a logical conclusion to arrive at. Someone please tell me if there is a flaw in this logic. And to the unbelievers, I know you are gonna say that there is no God, thus no law against what I posted. I am not interested in you trying to convince me my beliefs are wrong. I and steadfast in my faith and can not be turned aside. I am aiming this post towards those who do believe and would like to know their thoughts on this matter. Amendment 1 Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances. [link to www.usconstitution.net] Please read the constitution before actually talking about it, ok? It doesn't say a thing about what pastors can or cannot say. North Carolina's Amendment 1 about gay marriage you dolt. [link to www.cnn.com] Nothing to do with the US Constitution's First Amendment. "God forbid we should ever be 20 years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, & always, well informed... If they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty... Let them take arms... What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. " - Thomas Jefferson in 1787 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 13325024 Czechia 05/10/2012 12:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You people are really dumb. If you are Christian, God laid out all of His laws to you within it. If you are Christian, you wouldn't be able to support the United States to begin with, because the United States in its core tenant denies the establishment of God's laws within its land. The United States, and all other modern Western countries are against God. Why are you surprised of this? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 13325024 Czechia 05/10/2012 12:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There are many pastors who lead people astray. Sadly, many churches that claim to be Christian, are really Progressive organizations that enjoy the church tax break. Quoting: samanthasunflower A church is not a true church unless it calls for the overthrow of the US government and the establishment of religious law as the law of the land, as God commanded. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 15817450 United States 05/10/2012 12:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | North Carolina's Amendment 1 about gay marriage you dolt. [link to www.cnn.com] Quoting: Resister Nothing to do with the US Constitution's First Amendment. Thank you for clearing that up - I apologize. However, unless the pastors are preaching this in North Carolina then that still does not apply to them. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 10097155 United States 05/10/2012 12:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | To ask a question like that you clearly have never had anal sex and are just plain afraid to get your twinky stinky. I am a man so as far as man on man goes you aint putting nothing in my booty not even a finger so dont ask. I just dont go for the banana in my tailpipe and reach arounds are out of the question I am not the type to pull your third leg. And I dont blow pole so dont ask. But if you want my pole in your blowhole then I will gladly drop trou so you can go down town if that is your disco boogie thing. If all you really want is someone to poke your pothole then I am your guy. If you are looking for a poke and pull I am not who you are looking for. Now for woman on woman I really should not have to explain. But if I must what you need is a water bed with the sheets off, at least two women, half a gallon of baby oil, 50mg tablet of viagra and about 6-8 hrs of free time. This recipe is magical trust me. I just hope you have been doing your jumping jacks regularly because you are going to need the stamina and endurance. So yeah homosexuality is good for the soul and your pastor knows this. This shit I am telling you is divine knowledge and your pastors are trying to impart it on you too. The endtimes are coming my friend and we are not leaving one of your assholes unturned. Because when that final day come we are all going out in an apocalyptic orgy. You can either be there or be square. Now if you are a bit timid and need a little easy going break in I got your back just holler at me. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1145382 United States 05/10/2012 01:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hmm..I don't know. My guess is that the problem is marriage is defined as being between a man and woman by Christians, but you don't have to be a Christian to get 'married'. Other religions and non-religious people get married too. People get married all the time by justices of the peace, ship captains, even notary publics have the power to marry people (weird, huh?) So marriage can't really be defined as a religious thing unless you want it to be. To people who get married in a church it's a lot different (making a vow before God). In the Catholic church it's even considered a sacrament. But to other people it's just a legal contract. So, then it becomes a matter of semantics. What word do you use for two people of the same sex who live together and want to make it legal? Some people don't care if gays have a civil union with all the same legal advantages married people have but they don't want it to be called marriage. The gay community is being insistent that it should be called a marriage. I don't know why pastors support it. Maybe they are from a liberal denomination who believe they are being tolerant and loving to people who can't help being gay. That's my guess. |
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Talus (OP) User ID: 15661808 United States 05/10/2012 01:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10097155 So yeah homosexuality is good for the soul and your pastor knows this. This shit I am telling you is divine knowledge and your pastors are trying to impart it on you too. The endtimes are coming my friend and we are not leaving one of your assholes unturned. Because when that final day come we are all going out in an apocalyptic orgy. You can either be there or be square. Now if you are a bit timid and need a little easy going break in I got your back just holler at me. You have issues. I will pray for you. Hmm..I don't know. My guess is that the problem is marriage is defined as being between a man and woman by Christians, but you don't have to be a Christian to get 'married'. Other religions and non-religious people get married too. People get married all the time by justices of the peace, ship captains, even notary publics have the power to marry people (weird, huh?) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1145382 So marriage can't really be defined as a religious thing unless you want it to be. To people who get married in a church it's a lot different (making a vow before God). In the Catholic church it's even considered a sacrament. But to other people it's just a legal contract. So, then it becomes a matter of semantics. What word do you use for two people of the same sex who live together and want to make it legal? Some people don't care if gays have a civil union with all the same legal advantages married people have but they don't want it to be called marriage. The gay community is being insistent that it should be called a marriage. I don't know why pastors support it. Maybe they are from a liberal denomination who believe they are being tolerant and loving to people who can't help being gay. That's my guess. I understand that marriage is more than just a secular issue. What I do not understand is pastors coming out on the side that goes directly against what the Bible teaches. I know that the Bible says things like that will happen as the time grows short but it just pains me to see it happening in such a blatant fashion. I guess I never really gave much thought to what the end times would REALLY be like. I started to watch this video and only made it about 20 minutes before I had to turn it off because of the way she was miss stating and twisting the Bible. And what rough beast, its hour come round at last, Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born? - Yeats, 1919 |