So many say that they are "God fearing Christians". Question, why are you afraid of God?

I trully feel sorry for you OP, you're lost.

Thank you, because I know you mean it, but honestly I am very comfortable with my view of our reality and my views of God.

We each have to choose what we feel is right and then accept it without fear. I am not afraid. In fact, I am very happy with my choices.

Peace

You cannot KNOW God from Books and reading. You can only know him thru merging your mind with his.

(KJV)Psalm 111:10
The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom: a good understanding have all they that do his commandments : his praise endureth for ever.

(KJV)Proverbs 1:7
The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction.

(KJV)Proverbs 2:5
Then shalt thou understand the fear of the Lord , and find the knowledge of God.


Fearing God keeps us in line, because He punishes evil. The best way to explain it is this. A child fears doing something wrong and getting punished by their parents. It's this fear, that leads the child to not do anything stupid. It is also because of this, why spankings are now thought to be evil. With my own eyes, I have seen the ill effects of it. Children get everything they want, thus losing respect of the parents and when the parents DO try to assert authority, the child pays them no mind. Note, that fear also includes respect. A LOT of people do not respect the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob and thus, we see many hypocrites.


(KJV)Proverbs 13:24
He that spareth his rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him chasteneth him betimes.


(KJV)Hebrews 12:5-17
And ye have forgotten the exhortation which speaketh unto you as unto children, My son, despise not thou the chastening of the Lord, nor faint when thou art rebuked of him:

[6] For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth.

[7] If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not?

[8] But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons.

[9] Furthermore we have had fathers of our flesh which corrected us , and we gave them reverence: shall we not much rather be in subjection unto the Father of spirits, and live?

[10] For they verily for a few days chastened us after their own pleasure; but he for our profit, that we might be partakers of his holiness.

[11] Now no chastening for the present seemeth to be joyous, but grievous: nevertheless afterward it yieldeth the peaceable fruit of righteousness unto them which are exercised thereby.

[12] Wherefore lift up the hands which hang down, and the feeble knees;

[13] And make straight paths for your feet, lest that which is lame be turned out of the way; but let it rather be healed.

[14] Follow peace with all men , and holiness, without which no man shall see the Lord:

[15] Looking diligently lest any man fail of the grace of God; lest any root of bitterness springing up trouble you , and thereby many be defiled;

[16] Lest there be any fornicator, or profane person, as Esau, who for one morsel of meat sold his birthright.

[17] For ye know how that afterward, when he would have inherited the blessing, he was rejected: for he found no place of repentance, though he sought it carefully with tears.



Glory be to the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob!!!

It is a reverent respect towards the most loved and cherished.
Do you fear to brake your head?...

No.

I'd refer to it more like respect, and also like a child that knows they shouldn't spit and cuss at their ma or steal from dad's wallet or they will get a whoopin'. God has feelings, too, and he disciplines those he loves - so do good parents. God has a personality and feelings, too, after all, he's not just some big, ball of impersonal energy up there waiting to strike us with lightning. I find him much more on the loving, patient, compassionate side, and very forgiving, too. He's also very generous with his children and has much to offer.

I don't either, I have had a lot of "breaks" in my life with the body. and I am not in fear of them either. You ones still confuse your body as YOU and IT IS NOT. It is a carrier of YOU. It is a machine. YOU cannot be harmed. You mind does not get broken if your head gets broken. The FEAR comes from the fact you don't realize you are already an eternal being and all this is "lost" is a machine of a body. If your head is seriously broken, you will simply depart from the machine.

NONE of you is "new". Even the cat and dog are not their body. They are not flesh either. LIFE is in the SPIRIT, even your tree in your yard. You cannot die. There is no hellfire. God is within YOU.

This brings up a very important point. Please, anyone still following this thread please consider this.

Since we are actually infinite spiritual beings, we can never really die. These frail finite bodies can, but not the real us.

So, how do the dark forces hurt and control us? Fear of death won't work.

You deceive and trick us into giving away our own freedom and control. In other words, the only way we can be hurt is by tricking us into making the wrong choices ourselves. We cause our own suffering! Deception.

If you want a magic key to salvation? This is it.

each and every one who walks this planet is alreayd very elderly in terms of when their soul began. Your soul does NOT begin one of these bodies, it starts long before, for early individual mind is stupid. You who have matured ON this planet have been the animals and the animals are still maturing to that point where their souls are ready for a human brain. The lies on this world are terrible. Bodies are machines to carry you in learning and nothing more. Some cats and dogs on this planet are becoming early humans (mind able to make decisions) before they even use a human body. There are angels who specialty is to guard and care for life and they move up each developing soul into a higher animal form as it becomes ready and then the higher animals souls are moved into human bodies when they are thinking. These animal souls, when they start the human body/brain machine are those that you think dumb. They are dumb, they haven't been humans very long.

You ego assumes a lot... I used to do the same: "we are eternal spiritual beings" is a nice feeling to have, but when you consider God and His plan to NOT have rebellious creations running around eternally denying Him and doing whatever they want, it makes more sense to think of yourself as a part of God's garden--you will either produce fruit for Him or you will be destroyed... no worries if you don't value eternity...

sure, part of your essence may go on, but probably not your consciousness as it is ordered currently...

this is why lucifer is in charge here... and he is in charge here... of that there is no doubt... to tempt and to help God separate weeds from wheat...

so fear God if that's what it takes... He is the Creator and we are just His creations, made in His image... given free will and awareness... enough to learn humility and love of God and each other or not...

lucifer was made as one of the most beautiful creations and his fate is no different than anyone who denies God...

try tending a garden or bees and it will appear more obvious...

I would disagree--God created Grizzly bears and their voracity... imagine the awesomeness of creation and all of the beauty and destruction within it... not some kindly old man who is whoever you want Him to be, but someone you cannot fathom...

terrible and profound...

:)

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A true all knowing and all wise supreme being should not be something to fear.

In truth, this reality is SO much more than most people's silly childish understandings.

God is within you. Not something above you or in control of you...

He's all that's keeping me from raping the kids and the dog.

You have really misdefined yourself to something less than human in your post. Your idea of God is seriously limiting YOU. What the fuck DOES MAKE IN HIS IMAGE MEAN TO YOU? Excuse the expression but you are a pain in the tutty here, so I will use a pain in the tutty word to get your atteniton.

Lucifer is NOT in charge, he was removed 2000 years ago by MIchael of Nebadon, the Creator Son who played Jesus. Lucifer is uncreated, that means his soul no longer exists and he chose that at his trial during this past century, by that I mean mid 1900's. Lucifer was NEVER GOD the FATHEr.

Your whole post is BS to the extreme in your own lack of knowledge or you purposeful desire to come here and harrass , so which is it, still serving the DEAD LUCIFER are you? God the Father is never terrible. Only to your senses and you idea of him. We are going to grow you ones up on this planet, come hell or high water, because we ARE at the end of the age and TIME is so very up.

All are given eternal life, but it can be rejected and those of the Lucifer Rebellion , many of them have done exactly that, and others have made their restitution and those still hanging on the fence get to move to other worlds if they have not gotten off the fence. Its pretty simple.

Forget the grizzely bears for one day, they too shall be "human", thats how mind grows.

but you are, you ones are afraid of his "hell fire". I know, I have conversed on this with many and it does not exist, it is the story created by the antichrist thugs. You want hellfire in fact
This is what it means, as an acronym. HavingEverLastingLife, FieryIntelligenceReasonatingEternally. See how the antichrist LIES to you?

You are OF GOD and if you choose eternal life, you will be about working on becoming LIKE HIM. which Jesus taught! and is not understood.