Most in US won't be able to escape 'fiscal cliff' Congressional Buget Office Report!

I know fully well how they are funded, have never been on welfare & despise entitlements (to be distinguished from programs people buy into).

Where do you get the idea that I support entitlements? Read my post again.

You are clearly a noob here & attacking someone who might otherwise defend you when you become the liberal shill target of the day.



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well no one madeu take that great paying job did they? so please do someone a favor and you and your husband leave your great paying jobs and your well to do life and let someone who doesnt mind paying higher taxes to make what your making and the well to do life. so please go be a bottom feeder and then see through someone elses eyes that maybe they all arent there on purpose and would love to pay alittle more in taxed to live your "well to do" life..

Bottom line people. Get out of debt as much as possible. Go back to using cash and avoid credit cards and using debit cards. Avoid banks as much as you can. Only buy what you need and can afford to pay cash for, not what you 'want'.

Learn to enjoy the simpler things in life and learn to be more self-sufficient.

Period.

If your so unhappy with the thought of tax rates increasing a meager few percentage points then I am glad you didnt live in the country and pay taxes in the 40s 50s and 60s. This must of been communist russia then but my history books dont say this?

I do not disagree at all that smaller government is the goal

however, to think that smaller government and cuts in spending will somehow leave entitlements intact is naive

Cuts are going to come...all the way around. They will come because the current level of spending and debt is unsustainable, and the can has been kicked beyond any road that was left

However, look at europe. Austerity (i.e. cuts) will hurt, and hurt massively.

The US was allowed a small recovery bounce, but the next leg down could be more painful than 2008

The chain reaction I outline will occur...whether people agree with the cuts or not is a matter of debate...but with reduced tax revenue WILL come sharp cuts in entitlements, and that is when the shit will get real for millions of people

Those who voted for Obama thinking they were voting for the status quo are, I believe, soon to get a painful wakeup call

fuck you and your marxist talking points

I've run into about 200 people like you in the past four years, and every one has been a 20 something idealogue moron living off someone else, whether a girlfriend, a parent or the goverment

The numbers will worsen. America has shipped most of its manufacturing offshore. It is a chump change service economy trying to be a big dog. The only way it can go is down. No wealth creation. We sell some food, coal and movies. Do the math folks. If you refuse to buy unless it is made here, that is your only hope out.

1963 2,933,067 and above tax rate 91%...... but the 60s were a good time to be alive wasnt it? oh no again it must of been russia

u r a buttfuck moron if you think romneyt be any different.its the bankers who run it all dipshit retard fuckbrains.

Someone like yourself??

If that's what you are thinking, my suggestion would be to take English 101.

tax the top make them invest in there employees and companies and if you outsource then pay a nice heafty tarriff to bring it back into this country. If you want to have your business and china by all means do but make sure you pick up and move there too... you want the US to buy the shit then make it here or be prepared to pay for it when it comes back across our ports.

lmfao

my "well to do" life is working for myself about 20 hours a day, 6-7 days a week

how dare I want to keep something for myself, right?

Oh I forgot, I didn't build this business...someone else must have given me this cushy job I've been bulding since 1994

again, see stock marxist talking points, so lame at this point, they have no validity

the same crap people used in Soviet Russia in 1917 and every place else they have tried to justify stealing people's money, labor and livelihoods

many rich people I know have moved their businesses out of the country years ago, the minute they saw the writing on the wall...

the europeans I know were the first to see it coming, including several germans I know who grew up with parents who survived the 30s and 40s in Germany

All the envious ones will do at this point is be able to squeeze the "rich" middle class, the poor saps earning $250K in cities like NY or SF where it buys them the lifestyle of someone earning $70K in Texas

You, like most of the marxist shills on these sites, obviously failed at reason and math, otherwise you'd see that "just a few percentage points" of ANYTHING is usually the difference between success and failure, a successful rocket launch or an explosion, a building which stands for decades or collapses whilst being built

those "measly few percentage points" could trigger the difference between an economy limping along on life support, and the start of a new depression...

you have no idea what you're talking about, or that individuals and small businesses have been hanging on with the slimmest of margins...your little putsch and desire for just a little more of someone else's money could well be the straw which breaks the camel's back

lets talk again in a year and see where we are

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Horse shit on the electrical rates in PA- They are going down. My god, people rely on wood, gas, coal and solar to heat their homes. People would rather buy another heating source than pay those rates. I do not know where the hell you get your stats but you are an electric shill

I don't think Rockefeller ever paid more than 10%. The 91% is a glass ceiling for wage slaves.

My God are you ignorant...

try all that shit in an apartment house where most of us live. You rely on gas or electric - period.

There is no point warning these liberal fuckers. They are angry, hostile and unAmerican. You can't reason with that kind of stupid, ignorant jackasses.

Just let them get what they voted for because these sick bastards are going to have to learn the hard way. If you have the money to leave this country, do it.

Wish I did. A couple of long shots left then it is scramble.

Those in office won't do anything that would jeopardize them from getting re-elected. To top that off the majority of Americans would rather stick their head in the sand and ignore the problems hoping that they would go away than to face them!

The "Rich" middle class, that's funny.

Wow are you stupid.


The market-clearing price for new 2015 capacity – almost all natural gas – was $136 per megawatt. That’s eight times higher than the price for 2012, which was just $16 per megawatt. In the mid-Atlantic area covering New Jersey, Delaware, Pennsylvania, and DC the new price is $167 per megawatt. For the northern Ohio territory served by FirstEnergy, the price is a shocking $357 per megawatt.

Read more: [link to www.foxnews.com]

It's not 2015 yet is it?

It will be soon. You rate will go up 150% you fucking idiot.


Here is a liberal site too ...

[link to www.cbsnews.com]


I want to lick the tears off your face when the time comes..


Oh here is a foreign bank and what they forecast...

[link to www.instituteforenergyresearch.org]

You can download the PDF and look at the bottom page 4

You need to start reading at the top of page 3.

You don't think your rates will go up?

LMFAO at u buddy.

Dumbshits are called dumbshits because until something actually happens they don't believe it.

And you better fucking believe this and prepare.

Hell yeah, start putting up tariffs, it's the only way to prevent the last of American manufacturing closing up shop to move to a lower wage/regulatory country.

Tariffs equal to the wage difference and the regulatory burden, then add 10% for the right to sell your shit to American consumers.

Suddenly that plastic piece of shit at Wal-Mart will be much more expensive, and American made goods will be cheap by comparison. The money circulates in our economy and real wage growth/economic growth/ prosperity will return.

But whatever, I guess calling someone ignorant is a better response.

Fucking shill.

While your logic is reasonable, I have to take the counterpoint to argument. I believe this is all theatre d' absurd. It's a sideshow.

Ole Bammy will step in, 'save us', and the partisans will rally. Then Palpatine, uhmmm, I mean, Obama has complete power. He'll be seen as an economic messiah to people with no commonsense math skills.

I was addressing the fact that the post was such a butcher of the language it was almost indecipherable....just like the ACs previous posts. Personally I can't take a poster's reasoning seriously if I have to read it ten times over...

Our Declaration of Independence and says the following:

"That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness."

Little Miracles... I may be "ignorant" as you like to say but you my dear are arrogant. Much like yourself, I can not stand to read through your arrogant rants.

Another point to make Little Miracles. .......... This is not acceptable grammer either. ;) ................... Elitist, arrogant, pompous ass!

Well, if you subscribe to labeling people arrogant because they feel you should be able to speak the language coherently....then I accept your label with pride

I am sure you "accept" plenty of other things with "pride"! lmfao oh i forgot your ..................