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Anonymous Coward User ID: 22054163 United States 11/27/2012 10:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is the Will of God and then there is the Will of Satan. What is Satans is given unto Satan and Satan;s Will is carried out for His Will not theirs. 2 Timothy 2:26 And that they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will. Luke 4:6 And the devil said unto him, All this power will I give thee, and the glory of them: for that is delivered unto me; and to whomsoever I will I give it. 1 John 5:19 And we know that we are of God, and the whole world lieth in wickedness. 2 Corinthians 4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them. A world out side a world inside this world are both seen and unseen. By their fruits you shall know them for they are covered in the blood of men they have murdered man stealers hostage takers for selfish gain. Liar thieving defrauders. worshiping money gain of all kinds unto them selves power fame fortune and disdain they even strive to gain fame renowned for their own disdain they wear it well for mere gain. Luke 4:8 Jesus answered and said unto him, Get thee behind me, Satan: Revelation 22:15 For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie. |
Talkinghands User ID: 28616440 United States 11/27/2012 10:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | First off, I'm not a Christian, but I'm curious. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22716786 The fact that a one world gov, and billions of people dying is PROPHECISED (meaning the angels or God told the prophets that so and so would happen) doesn't that mean that its GODS plan? Why do people call it satans plan? Satan couldn't do anything without God, right? STOP RIGHT THERE. You are looking at this entirely wrong. The story of Jesus is about Well.. GODS ONLY BEGOTTEN SUN The four seasons are mark Mathew Luke and john. OBVIOUSLY because the sun makes its travels threw four seasons on this earth. SATAN is SATIN in Latin. SATIN, is the name of Saturn. The exact opposite opposing force in our solar system its as large as the sun and opposite in every way. Its so fucking simple and I wont spoil anymore of it I really want you to look into this you will be amazed and instantly enlightened on this topic. The literal rendition of the bible is what Fathers used to teach to there SONS (suns) Its all in the wording man its so obvious. think about it. The best kept secret is wide out in the open and EVEN the bible it self says to watch out for "wolves in sheep's clothing" May that be the lords "Shepards"? (pastors) herding in the flock into a building and deceiving them. They all blindly listen to them! They believe so much that its talking about real people they will for ever be waiting for jesus to come surfing in on the clouds to save them. They will do nothing to stop what is going on in this world because "ITS GODS PLAN" In a sense it is gods plan.. But god is the universe the one thing that is real.. |
Talkinghands User ID: 28616440 United States 11/27/2012 10:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is the Will of God and then there is the Will of Satan. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22054163 What is Satans is given unto Satan and Satan;s Will is carried out for His Will not theirs. 2 Timothy 2:26 And that they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will. Luke 4:6 And the devil said unto him, All this power will I give thee, and the glory of them: for that is delivered unto me; and to whomsoever I will I give it. 1 John 5:19 And we know that we are of God, and the whole world lieth in wickedness. 2 Corinthians 4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them. A world out side a world inside this world are both seen and unseen. By their fruits you shall know them for they are covered in the blood of men they have murdered man stealers hostage takers for selfish gain. Liar thieving defrauders. worshiping money gain of all kinds unto them selves power fame fortune and disdain they even strive to gain fame renowned for their own disdain they wear it well for mere gain. Luke 4:8 Jesus answered and said unto him, Get thee behind me, Satan: Revelation 22:15 For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie. You are of the highest order of jackass's |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 22054163 United States 11/27/2012 10:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is the Will of God and then there is the Will of Satan. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22054163 What is Satans is given unto Satan and Satan;s Will is carried out for His Will not theirs. 2 Timothy 2:26 And that they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will. Luke 4:6 And the devil said unto him, All this power will I give thee, and the glory of them: for that is delivered unto me; and to whomsoever I will I give it. 1 John 5:19 And we know that we are of God, and the whole world lieth in wickedness. 2 Corinthians 4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them. A world out side a world inside this world are both seen and unseen. By their fruits you shall know them for they are covered in the blood of men they have murdered man stealers hostage takers for selfish gain. Liar thieving defrauders. worshiping money gain of all kinds unto them selves power fame fortune and disdain they even strive to gain fame renowned for their own disdain they wear it well for mere gain. Luke 4:8 Jesus answered and said unto him, Get thee behind me, Satan: Revelation 22:15 For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie. You are of the highest order of jackass's That is why you cuss us spit on us and of course hate us...who have not done so to you individual you. It just comes naturally. |
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Talkinghands User ID: 28619104 United States 11/27/2012 10:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is the Will of God and then there is the Will of Satan. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22054163 What is Satans is given unto Satan and Satan;s Will is carried out for His Will not theirs. 2 Timothy 2:26 And that they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will. Luke 4:6 And the devil said unto him, All this power will I give thee, and the glory of them: for that is delivered unto me; and to whomsoever I will I give it. 1 John 5:19 And we know that we are of God, and the whole world lieth in wickedness. 2 Corinthians 4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them. A world out side a world inside this world are both seen and unseen. By their fruits you shall know them for they are covered in the blood of men they have murdered man stealers hostage takers for selfish gain. Liar thieving defrauders. worshiping money gain of all kinds unto them selves power fame fortune and disdain they even strive to gain fame renowned for their own disdain they wear it well for mere gain. Luke 4:8 Jesus answered and said unto him, Get thee behind me, Satan: Revelation 22:15 For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie. You are of the highest order of jackass's That is why you cuss us spit on us and of course hate us...who have not done so to you individual you. It just comes naturally. So quick to JUDGE me eh? I don't hate you or have anything against you. I just don't stand for ignorance anymore on this topic. |
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Talkinghands User ID: 28619104 United States 11/27/2012 10:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Seems like a good cop bad cop trick if you ask me! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26312040 Also you have verses saying that angels are eternal perfect spiritual beings yet Satan and his brothas are held prisoners until their final judgement!! WTF is that supposed to mean??? Death eventually??? Our planets are locked into a cycle. and the ANGLES of the planets give you blessings and give you curses. its astrology for the higher mind. ONLY thoughs with eyes to see and ears to listen will understand this. |
Talkinghands User ID: 28619104 United States 11/27/2012 11:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Seems like a good cop bad cop trick if you ask me! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26312040 Also you have verses saying that angels are eternal perfect spiritual beings yet Satan and his brothas are held prisoners until their final judgement!! WTF is that supposed to mean??? Death eventually??? Our planets are locked into a cycle. and the ANGLES of the planets give you blessings and give you curses. its astrology for the higher mind. ONLY thoughs with eyes to see and ears to listen will understand this. Also lucifer was one of the most BRIGHTEST of all angels. |
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Talkinghands User ID: 28619104 United States 11/27/2012 11:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I believe it's God's will that we have free will. I only hope that enough of us use that free will to call on our Galactic brothers and sisters to help us out of this mess! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22621726 Fuck that. (excuse my language please) This is our EVOLUTION. Its up to us to save ourselves. I'm not saying we don't have Galactic friends out their. I’m saying they are merely on the edges of their seats anxiously waiting to see how we pull threw this as a race. NO outside help aloud. We must naturally evolve. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 21656968 United States 11/27/2012 11:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why do people call it satans plan? Satan couldn't do anything without God, right? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22716786 Free will. That's the answer. I could put you and a bunch of people in a room and say you can do what you want as long as you allow others to do what they want, and you do not interfear with their free will, as they shouldn't with yours. The moment one makes another do what they want them to rather then allow free will expression the contract has been broken. The fallen did not follow the very simple laws of God. God had to give all beings the free will to do what they want. This wasn't God's Plan. However it will work out in the favor of God's plan in a long long way from where we are at with this. |
Talkinghands User ID: 28619104 United States 11/27/2012 11:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why do people call it satans plan? Satan couldn't do anything without God, right? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22716786 Free will. That's the answer. I could put you and a bunch of people in a room and say you can do what you want as long as you allow others to do what they want, and you do not interfear with their free will, as they shouldn't with yours. The moment one makes another do what they want them to rather then allow free will expression the contract has been broken. The fallen did not follow the very simple laws of God. God had to give all beings the free will to do what they want. This wasn't God's Plan. However it will work out in the favor of God's plan in a long long way from where we are at with this. How did you come to this conclusion? I'm interested. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 22621726 Australia 11/27/2012 11:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I believe it's God's will that we have free will. I only hope that enough of us use that free will to call on our Galactic brothers and sisters to help us out of this mess! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22621726 Fuck that. (excuse my language please) This is our EVOLUTION. Its up to us to save ourselves. I'm not saying we don't have Galactic friends out their. I’m saying they are merely on the edges of their seats anxiously waiting to see how we pull threw this as a race. NO outside help aloud. We must naturally evolve. Nice language! This is our evolution, however our actions have consequences far beyond our beautiful planet. We can use our free will to call for assistance. I am not saying that we can just sit back and have it all done for us. We have been getting assistance for a long time, maybe we'll start to finally listen. |
Talkinghands User ID: 28619104 United States 11/27/2012 11:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I believe it's God's will that we have free will. I only hope that enough of us use that free will to call on our Galactic brothers and sisters to help us out of this mess! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22621726 Fuck that. (excuse my language please) This is our EVOLUTION. Its up to us to save ourselves. I'm not saying we don't have Galactic friends out their. I’m saying they are merely on the edges of their seats anxiously waiting to see how we pull threw this as a race. NO outside help aloud. We must naturally evolve. Nice language! This is our evolution, however our actions have consequences far beyond our beautiful planet. We can use our free will to call for assistance. I am not saying that we can just sit back and have it all done for us. We have been getting assistance for a long time, maybe we'll start to finally listen. I think at this moment in time Crop circles are our help. Idk why I just feel that’s it. I wouldn't hop on any space ship and leave with any being. Would you? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 26312040 Canada 11/27/2012 11:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Seems like a good cop bad cop trick if you ask me! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26312040 Also you have verses saying that angels are eternal perfect spiritual beings yet Satan and his brothas are held prisoners until their final judgement!! WTF is that supposed to mean??? Death eventually??? Our planets are locked into a cycle. and the ANGLES of the planets give you blessings and give you curses. its astrology for the higher mind. ONLY thoughs with eyes to see and ears to listen will understand this. Also lucifer was one of the most BRIGHTEST of all angels. Exactly!! What i was gonna say. He's a freaking archangel for God's sake! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 22054163 United States 11/27/2012 11:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is the Will of God and then there is the Will of Satan. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22054163 What is Satans is given unto Satan and Satan;s Will is carried out for His Will not theirs. 2 Timothy 2:26 And that they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will. Luke 4:6 And the devil said unto him, All this power will I give thee, and the glory of them: for that is delivered unto me; and to whomsoever I will I give it. 1 John 5:19 And we know that we are of God, and the whole world lieth in wickedness. 2 Corinthians 4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them. A world out side a world inside this world are both seen and unseen. By their fruits you shall know them for they are covered in the blood of men they have murdered man stealers hostage takers for selfish gain. Liar thieving defrauders. worshiping money gain of all kinds unto them selves power fame fortune and disdain they even strive to gain fame renowned for their own disdain they wear it well for mere gain. Luke 4:8 Jesus answered and said unto him, Get thee behind me, Satan: Revelation 22:15 For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie. You are of the highest order of jackass's That is why you cuss us spit on us and of course hate us...who have not done so to you individual you. It just comes naturally. So quick to JUDGE me eh? I don't hate you or have anything against you. I just don't stand for ignorance anymore on this topic. Yet you judge the ignorant as a person you judged them to to be so making them a jackass low on all fours a beast by your judgment and standards you stand for over their ignorance? So who judged who? It was not me who judged You. It is You who judged Me. by nothing more than ignorance you graded me as. Not for anything I did or judged unto You but stood against such things as murder kidnapping stealing and lying. Yet this is ignorance unto you who are way to intelligent to stand against that for it goes against your principles. For you do not need any evidence you just judge an individual by sights targets...those who do not accpet your own principles. Wow what a craving for Masochist to reign true to word. |
Talkinghands User ID: 28619104 United States 11/27/2012 11:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Seems like a good cop bad cop trick if you ask me! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26312040 Also you have verses saying that angels are eternal perfect spiritual beings yet Satan and his brothas are held prisoners until their final judgement!! WTF is that supposed to mean??? Death eventually??? Our planets are locked into a cycle. and the ANGLES of the planets give you blessings and give you curses. its astrology for the higher mind. ONLY thoughs with eyes to see and ears to listen will understand this. Also lucifer was one of the most BRIGHTEST of all angels. Exactly!! What i was gonna say. He's a freaking archangel for God's sake! Arch (ANGLE) Saturn Plays a huge role in our sky's He brings many toils when he comes around but also many blessings depending on when you were born. I'm tellin you its all in the words. English is a dead language. Satan is saturn. There is a giant hex in saturn for christ sake. |
Talkinghands User ID: 28619104 United States 11/27/2012 11:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That is why you cuss us spit on us and of course hate us...who have not done so to you individual you. It just comes naturally. So quick to JUDGE me eh? I don't hate you or have anything against you. I just don't stand for ignorance anymore on this topic. Yet you judge the ignorant as a person you judged them to to be so making them a jackass low on all fours a beast by your judgment and standards you stand for over their ignorance? So who judged who? It was not me who judged You. It is You who judged Me. by nothing more than ignorance you graded me as. Not for anything I did or judged unto You but stood against such things as murder kidnapping stealing and lying. Yet this is ignorance unto you who are way to intelligent to stand against that for it goes against your principles. For you do not need any evidence you just judge an individual by sights targets...those who do not accpet your own principles. Wow what a craving for Masochist to reign true to word. EGO indulgeo vos parvulus |
Talkinghands User ID: 28619104 United States 11/27/2012 11:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That is why you cuss us spit on us and of course hate us...who have not done so to you individual you. It just comes naturally. So quick to JUDGE me eh? I don't hate you or have anything against you. I just don't stand for ignorance anymore on this topic. Yet you judge the ignorant as a person you judged them to to be so making them a jackass low on all fours a beast by your judgment and standards you stand for over their ignorance? So who judged who? It was not me who judged You. It is You who judged Me. by nothing more than ignorance you graded me as. Not for anything I did or judged unto You but stood against such things as murder kidnapping stealing and lying. Yet this is ignorance unto you who are way to intelligent to stand against that for it goes against your principles. For you do not need any evidence you just judge an individual by sights targets...those who do not accpet your own principles. Wow what a craving for Masochist to reign true to word. EGO indulgeo vos parvulus |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 22621726 Australia 11/27/2012 11:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I believe it's God's will that we have free will. I only hope that enough of us use that free will to call on our Galactic brothers and sisters to help us out of this mess! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22621726 Fuck that. (excuse my language please) This is our EVOLUTION. Its up to us to save ourselves. I'm not saying we don't have Galactic friends out their. I’m saying they are merely on the edges of their seats anxiously waiting to see how we pull threw this as a race. NO outside help aloud. We must naturally evolve. Nice language! This is our evolution, however our actions have consequences far beyond our beautiful planet. We can use our free will to call for assistance. I am not saying that we can just sit back and have it all done for us. We have been getting assistance for a long time, maybe we'll start to finally listen. I think at this moment in time Crop circles are our help. Idk why I just feel that’s it. I wouldn't hop on any space ship and leave with any being. Would you? I find crop circles extremely interesting too. As for hopping on a craft, I would use my extremely strong intuition to guide me should that become an option! |
Talkinghands User ID: 28619104 United States 11/27/2012 11:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Talkinghands Fuck that. (excuse my language please) This is our EVOLUTION. Its up to us to save ourselves. I'm not saying we don't have Galactic friends out their. I’m saying they are merely on the edges of their seats anxiously waiting to see how we pull threw this as a race. NO outside help aloud. We must naturally evolve. Nice language! This is our evolution, however our actions have consequences far beyond our beautiful planet. We can use our free will to call for assistance. I am not saying that we can just sit back and have it all done for us. We have been getting assistance for a long time, maybe we'll start to finally listen. I think at this moment in time Crop circles are our help. Idk why I just feel that’s it. I wouldn't hop on any space ship and leave with any being. Would you? I find crop circles extremely interesting too. As for hopping on a craft, I would use my extremely strong intuition to guide me should that become an option! Wise man you are. My body came from this earth, so I will return it to this earth when I move on. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 4473716 New Zealand 11/27/2012 11:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's simple. Break everyword back down to its, Greek, Or hebrew meaning. TOTALLY DIFFERENT STORY It's what? Here's a little paradigm I invented years ago: Stupid compounds into Complicated. And example is trying to make sense of complete bullshit: if it has a stupid First Premise it's extremely complicated and incomprehensible. This is OFTEN mistaken for: Simple expands to Complex: if it has a simple and coherent First Premise the end result will be comprehensible and often beautiful. Think of a modern artwork installation compared with a flower in the field as a fairly good example in real life. OPs comment points out the core logical flaw in the god/satan argument as presented:something cannot be both entirely predictable,a prophesied event for instance,and at the same time alterable by prior free will, otherwise it would not be a predictable event. This is a SIMPLE (not stupid) analysis. A stupid analysis is that an event can be both perfectly predicted AND unpredictable at the same time. And that humans can have free will and be completely under the control of ectoplasmic entities simultaneosly. (Hmmm...did Satan make me write the above, or was it God? Or was it me acting as an independent entity. If I am an independent entity do I go to heaven or hell. Neither seems to want me so what am I to do? Joke btw) p.s. Jesuitical reversals of word meanings don't really count. The opposite of Lies is not Seil, but Truth. |