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Anonymous Coward User ID: 29503737 Bahamas 12/12/2012 07:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wether you believe it or not.. Quoting: wildhoney We have a book that says that a man preached love ..forgiveness compassion ..mercy..healed the sick and gave hope to the ones that didnt have hope said to forgive your enemies and to be love and to be known by how you love that is a powerful message that would transform this disgusting world of man we believe He was nailed to the Cross and abused and mocked..and suffered terribly..that He was abandoned by all..and died a lowly death..and was hurriedly buried without the minimun rites in a borrowed tomb you think that is made up? ok then we have the Shroud..which we have spoken about here long enough you think that is made up too? then we have the Christians dying in ancient Rome to be truthful to Him? They were wrong or made up? ok so you dont believe? but we do and so therefore it would be nice if His suffering image was not placed on a street with the quote ..Dump the myth.. associated to Him.. Because even though you dont believe WE DO! Believe it or not the Ancient Egyptians had a book that preached love and all those other things SO did Buddha So did Mohammad |
christian (OP) Suited up and Armored in Christ! User ID: 6038128 United States 12/12/2012 07:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Merci Actually those are Gods decrees. Christians are just the messenger and as such your enemy as God also stated. The greatiest conspiracy ever perpetuated was convincing mankind that the words of men were the words of 'God'. Why does an all powerful 'God' have to deliver his 'message' through a small group of men 2000 years ago? If 'God' is all powerful, he would have communicated his directives/messages directly to every soul, telepathically. Then there would be no confusion, no corruption,, and no mistaking the decrees of 'God' and we woud live in harmony through everyone of us knowing 'God's' undeniable message. . An all knowing 'God' would have known in advance that a small group of men would never have been trusted to deliver his message and how that message would have been manipulated, censored, and corrupted by the influence of other men, yes? So either 'God' makes mistakes and is not omniscient and omnipotent, or mankind has been lied to by a group of men who sought to control and manipulate others by passing off their self inspired words as the 'word of God'. We know this has been a reoccuring practice throughout history so to any open-minded and critical thinking individual, this should not come as a surprise. He does, you just refuse to hear it. It is more then a small group of men. Look at the ancients testimonies, all religions, all civilizations past and present, all cultures. It takes many years of study but it all paints a big picture and God is at the center. The puzzle, the many pieces create, is one that man can not complete. Send the information through your heart and ask God to show you the truth in all things to start. The seeds of truth are growing in your heart and you really want to believe. Take the leap of faith. You only got your soul to lose if Christ is the way the truth and the light. And if you are right, Christians have nothing to lose but you do. What do you mean I want to believe? I believe in a Creator, and I contemplated on that all my life and realized that all religions are man-made and not inspired by God/Creator. Are you going to tell me that my faith/beliefs are not real unless they adhere to an organized man-made religion??? P.S. you really should think about your choice of words when you encourage others to believe they will/could 'lose their soul' if they do not believe as you. In my eyes that is a form of spiritual warfare and seeking to elicit that type of emotional response / energy in others is not advised. That tactic of using fear to win support has been practiced by the churches for thousands of years and is an insult to 'God'/Creator. True learning and understanding originates from the HEART and fear is not an emotion of the heart, it is solely an emotion of the brain/mind. You know better. This is the LOVE I get from people who condemn me.. Keep clinging dumbass.... I will still pray for them... Susie For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.....Matthew 6:21 There is a time for everything, and a season for every activity under the heavens: Ecclesiastes 3:1 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 6444425 Spain 12/12/2012 07:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wether you believe it or not.. Quoting: wildhoney We have a book that says that a man preached love ..forgiveness compassion ..mercy..healed the sick and gave hope to the ones that didnt have hope said to forgive your enemies and to be love and to be known by how you love that is a powerful message that would transform this disgusting world of man we believe He was nailed to the Cross and abused and mocked..and suffered terribly..that He was abandoned by all..and died a lowly death..and was hurriedly buried without the minimun rites in a borrowed tomb you think that is made up? ok then we have the Shroud..which we have spoken about here long enough you think that is made up too? then we have the Christians dying in ancient Rome to be truthful to Him? They were wrong or made up? ok so you dont believe? but we do and so therefore it would be nice if His suffering image was not placed on a street with the quote ..Dump the myth.. associated to Him.. Because even though you dont believe WE DO! Believe it or not the Ancient Egyptians had a book that preached love and all those other things SO did Buddha So did Mohammad Guess we are pretty stubborn then and havent quite got the message yet |
itsamadmadworld User ID: 12777701 United States 12/12/2012 07:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What's disgusting, is atheists spend their entire lives RUNNING from faith, and trying their very best to dissuade OTHERS to believe in man-made NONSENSE like Macro Evolution. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29696808 For of all, you need to think before you post - You stated that atheists try their best to "dissuade others to believe in man-made nonsense like macro evolution", but evidently you meant "persuade" . . . ? Anyway . . . What a pity that you are so unenlightened and lacking intellectual evolution. I have never known any atheist or agnostic who actively engages in trying to persuade or convince others to believe anything . . . they may advocate evolution, but that is not equitable to the blatant and intrusive conversion attempts made by religionists. In fact, the majority of atheists and agnostics just mind their own business and respect others' rights to believe as they chooose, even if they fundamentally disagree. Religionists however, especially American christians are intrusive, judgmental, hypocritical, hateful, persecutory, and utterly disrespectful. It's time for fanatic religionists to step back, take a look in the mirror, do some heavy-duty introspection, and realize that NOTHING is achieved by their negative and hateful actions and words. Rather, they merely add to the division already so predominant in society . . . and at this time in history, we don't need more division - we need unity. |
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christian (OP) Suited up and Armored in Christ! User ID: 6038128 United States 12/12/2012 07:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: christian When you truly realize how much GOD loves you, you are overwhelmed with so much sorrow and indescribable Joy It is like the wind being knocked from you.. 11/30/2011 Why because his LOVE, his Agape LOVE is like no other It is not like your Parent's Love or your Child's love or your Spouse's love or any human conception of love.. It is a LOVE that overwhelms the core of your soul, as we realize we are created in the Image of our LOVING Alpha and Omega Creator, with his LOVE that envelopes our spirit in this world we live in.... You fall to your knees, and say LORD GOD I a wretched sinner am your child, and you love me, you died on the cross for me and you will never forsake me, as I know when I am absent from my body, I will be present with my LORD and Saviour! So no matter what happens in this broken and fallen world, remember GOD loves you so very much and he says: Come as you are: His arms are big enough to hold you tight and say to you, My love for you is bigger than any sin you could do... Maranatha Jesus! This Season of Christmas, we know...Why our LORD came to this Fallen World from his Perfect Throne of Heaven.... Love...Love for you and me! God Bless! Where is *YOUR* love for me, Susie? All I've seen you do is condemn us for not believing as you do. I cannot condemn anyone... My LOVE for you is to share the GOOD NEWS with you and how you can receive eternal life with the Father.... You're a hypocrite and a liar. Okie dokie then... Go in Peace.... Susie For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.....Matthew 6:21 There is a time for everything, and a season for every activity under the heavens: Ecclesiastes 3:1 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 26795689 United States 12/12/2012 07:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That is what God the creator states, not I my friend. My hope and prayers are that all are able to see the kingdom of heaven. Quoting: Merci But it is God that states some will not. Just hoping you my friend will be meeting me in heaven. I've found the Kingdom of Heaven, it is within your own being. It is recognizing the divinity and eternal nature of your own soul, your consciousness. How are you going to 'see' it with your eyes when it's within you? You have to FEEL it. God/Creator is LIGHT, even the bible says as much. God does not author books, nor does God create organized religions. You can tell me that the man-made books are the 'word of God' until you are blue in the face but I will never subscribe to that belief because I know that an indvidual's relationship with God/Creator is a personal one and is NEVER found in a book, a church, or any other source that is external to your own being. I hope you will be able to understand. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 6444425 Spain 12/12/2012 07:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That is what God the creator states, not I my friend. My hope and prayers are that all are able to see the kingdom of heaven. Quoting: Merci But it is God that states some will not. Just hoping you my friend will be meeting me in heaven. I've found the Kingdom of Heaven, it is within your own being. It is recognizing the divinity and eternal nature of your own soul, your consciousness. How are you going to 'see' it with your eyes when it's within you? You have to FEEL it. God/Creator is LIGHT, even the bible says as much. God does not author books, nor does God create organized religions. You can tell me that the man-made books are the 'word of God' until you are blue in the face but I will never subscribe to that belief because I know that an indvidual's relationship with God/Creator is a personal one and is NEVER found in a book, a church, or any other source that is external to your own being. I hope you will be able to understand. And what did Christ say? The Kingdom is within you |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 9788321 United States 12/12/2012 07:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1357054 Where is *YOUR* love for me, Susie? All I've seen you do is condemn us for not believing as you do. I cannot condemn anyone... My LOVE for you is to share the GOOD NEWS with you and how you can receive eternal life with the Father.... You're a hypocrite and a liar. Okie dokie then... Go in Peace.... Hi. I am confused... which god do you believe in? Are you Catholic? Christian? Mormon? Jewish? Muslim? There's so many gods to choose from... how did you decide yours was the right god? Thanks. |
christian (OP) Suited up and Armored in Christ! User ID: 6038128 United States 12/12/2012 07:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That is what God the creator states, not I my friend. My hope and prayers are that all are able to see the kingdom of heaven. Quoting: Merci But it is God that states some will not. Just hoping you my friend will be meeting me in heaven. I've found the Kingdom of Heaven, it is within your own being. It is recognizing the divinity and eternal nature of your own soul, your consciousness. How are you going to 'see' it with your eyes when it's within you? You have to FEEL it. God/Creator is LIGHT, even the bible says as much. God does not author books, nor does God create organized religions. You can tell me that the man-made books are the 'word of God' until you are blue in the face but I will never subscribe to that belief because I know that an indvidual's relationship with God/Creator is a personal one and is NEVER found in a book, a church, or any other source that is external to your own being. I hope you will be able to understand. The Kingdom of GOD transforms your spirit..... The Wisdom and Knowledge that comes from GOD is found in his Word.. Do you know that when Jesus Christ returns and reins from Israel all nations will come to Jerualem to learn about the Mysteries of GOD.... GOD is eternal.. We will learn about him eternally.... Susie For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.....Matthew 6:21 There is a time for everything, and a season for every activity under the heavens: Ecclesiastes 3:1 |
itsamadmadworld User ID: 12777701 United States 12/12/2012 07:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: ANHEDONIC The greatiest conspiracy ever perpetuated was convincing mankind that the words of men were the words of 'God'. Why does an all powerful 'God' have to deliver his 'message' through a small group of men 2000 years ago? If 'God' is all powerful, he would have communicated his directives/messages directly to every soul, telepathically. Then there would be no confusion, no corruption,, and no mistaking the decrees of 'God' and we woud live in harmony through everyone of us knowing 'God's' undeniable message. . An all knowing 'God' would have known in advance that a small group of men would never have been trusted to deliver his message and how that message would have been manipulated, censored, and corrupted by the influence of other men, yes? So either 'God' makes mistakes and is not omniscient and omnipotent, or mankind has been lied to by a group of men who sought to control and manipulate others by passing off their self inspired words as the 'word of God'. We know this has been a reoccuring practice throughout history so to any open-minded and critical thinking individual, this should not come as a surprise. He does, you just refuse to hear it. It is more then a small group of men. Look at the ancients testimonies, all religions, all civilizations past and present, all cultures. It takes many years of study but it all paints a big picture and God is at the center. The puzzle, the many pieces create, is one that man can not complete. Send the information through your heart and ask God to show you the truth in all things to start. The seeds of truth are growing in your heart and you really want to believe. Take the leap of faith. You only got your soul to lose if Christ is the way the truth and the light. And if you are right, Christians have nothing to lose but you do. What do you mean I want to believe? I believe in a Creator, and I contemplated on that all my life and realized that all religions are man-made and not inspired by God/Creator. Are you going to tell me that my faith/beliefs are not real unless they adhere to an organized man-made religion??? P.S. you really should think about your choice of words when you encourage others to believe they will/could 'lose their soul' if they do not believe as you. In my eyes that is a form of spiritual warfare and seeking to elicit that type of emotional response / energy in others is not advised. That tactic of using fear to win support has been practiced by the churches for thousands of years and is an insult to 'God'/Creator. True learning and understanding originates from the HEART and fear is not an emotion of the heart, it is solely an emotion of the brain/mind. You know better. This is the LOVE I get from people who condemn me.. Keep clinging dumbass.... I will still pray for them... You're evidently completely unsure and afraid . . . you lack any real beliefs or convictions, but merely parrot phrases in a book. If it were not so, this thread would not exist, just like all your other threads of desperation. Perhaps you should step away from this forum, don't open the pages of the bible, and actually try formulating thoughts on your own and maybe, just maybe you will come to realize how disrespectful and judgmental you are . . . and perhaps you'll find some way to be more intellectually and emotionally confident, without tearing others down and without being so condescending and hateful. |
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Merci User ID: 1499647 United States 12/12/2012 07:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That is what God the creator states, not I my friend. My hope and prayers are that all are able to see the kingdom of heaven. Quoting: Merci But it is God that states some will not. Just hoping you my friend will be meeting me in heaven. I've found the Kingdom of Heaven, it is within your own being. It is recognizing the divinity and eternal nature of your own soul, your consciousness. How are you going to 'see' it with your eyes when it's within you? You have to FEEL it. God/Creator is LIGHT, even the bible says as much. God does not author books, nor does God create organized religions. You can tell me that the man-made books are the 'word of God' until you are blue in the face but I will never subscribe to that belief because I know that an indvidual's relationship with God/Creator is a personal one and is NEVER found in a book, a church, or any other source that is external to your own being. I hope you will be able to understand. Oh yes, I do understand. God is found within since the seeds are planted in your heart. I went to Christ during my NDE, I saw the light of God and was met by the consciousness of Christ. I know you go to heaven via the Christ light and the Christ light is the only way to God in Heaven. All Religions are man made inspired by Lucifer. Even the Christian religion, which is the closest to what I witnessed, has Pauline tendencies that skewer the original teachings of god. Paul was a good Mason BTW. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 9788321 United States 12/12/2012 07:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How do I choose which god to serve???? They are all very ancient and have lots of history to them.... Each text is very convincing to me... how do I choose which one to worship for all eternity???????? Please help... |
christian (OP) Suited up and Armored in Christ! User ID: 6038128 United States 12/12/2012 07:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: christian I cannot condemn anyone... My LOVE for you is to share the GOOD NEWS with you and how you can receive eternal life with the Father.... You're a hypocrite and a liar. Okie dokie then... Go in Peace.... Hi. I am confused... which god do you believe in? Are you Catholic? Christian? Mormon? Jewish? Muslim? There's so many gods to choose from... how did you decide yours was the right god? Thanks. I am a Bible Believing follower of Jesus Christ.... I have been 2 Many Churches however I choose to be with this one.. To the Church in Philadelphia 7 “To the angel of the church in Philadelphia write: These are the words of him who is holy and true, who holds the key of David. What he opens no one can shut, and what he shuts no one can open. 8 I know your deeds. See, I have placed before you an open door that no one can shut. I know that you have little strength, yet you have kept my word and have not denied my name. 9 I will make those who are of the synagogue of Satan, who claim to be Jews though they are not, but are liars—I will make them come and fall down at your feet and acknowledge that I have loved you. 10 Since you have kept my command to endure patiently, I will also keep you from the hour of trial that is going to come on the whole world to test the inhabitants of the earth. 11 I am coming soon. Hold on to what you have, so that no one will take your crown. 12 The one who is victorious I will make a pillar in the temple of my God. Never again will they leave it. I will write on them the name of my God and the name of the city of my God, the new Jerusalem, which is coming down out of heaven from my God; and I will also write on them my new name. 13 Whoever has ears, let them hear what the Spirit says to the churches. Susie For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.....Matthew 6:21 There is a time for everything, and a season for every activity under the heavens: Ecclesiastes 3:1 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 9788321 United States 12/12/2012 07:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Please I don't have money and the people look at me funny when I don't give.... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 29503737 Bahamas 12/12/2012 07:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | His arms are big enough to hold you tight and say to you, My love for you is bigger than any sin you could do.. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19436166 Hey op what kind of lie is this?? you cannot be for real. you spread satans lie Why use Anthropomorphism in describing God ,God is a spirit are you saying he has arms and eyes and lips and muscles to hold people tight |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 29503737 Bahamas 12/12/2012 07:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ummm oh yeah also... do all religions require you to pay?? I don't have a job and I don't really have any money but all the religions i've been to go around collecting money... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9788321 Please I don't have money and the people look at me funny when I don't give.... Zeus doesn't require you to pay he predicted false prophets like the OP this proves Zeus is true |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 9788321 United States 12/12/2012 07:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hi. I am confused... which god do you believe in? Are you Catholic? Christian? Mormon? Jewish? Muslim? There's so many gods to choose from... how did you decide yours was the right god? Thanks. I am a Bible Believing follower of Jesus Christ.... I have been 2 Many Churches however I choose to be with this one.. To the Church in Philadelphia 7 “To the angel of the church in Philadelphia write: These are the words of him who is holy and true, who holds the key of David. What he opens no one can shut, and what he shuts no one can open. 8 I know your deeds. See, I have placed before you an open door that no one can shut. I know that you have little strength, yet you have kept my word and have not denied my name. 9 I will make those who are of the synagogue of Satan, who claim to be Jews though they are not, but are liars—I will make them come and fall down at your feet and acknowledge that I have loved you. 10 Since you have kept my command to endure patiently, I will also keep you from the hour of trial that is going to come on the whole world to test the inhabitants of the earth. 11 I am coming soon. Hold on to what you have, so that no one will take your crown. 12 The one who is victorious I will make a pillar in the temple of my God. Never again will they leave it. I will write on them the name of my God and the name of the city of my God, the new Jerusalem, which is coming down out of heaven from my God; and I will also write on them my new name. 13 Whoever has ears, let them hear what the Spirit says to the churches. Okay so jesus is the god you worship??? I don't understand why jesus prays to himself in the bible.... I thought jesus was a man.... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 29503737 Bahamas 12/12/2012 07:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hi. I am confused... which god do you believe in? Are you Catholic? Christian? Mormon? Jewish? Muslim? There's so many gods to choose from... how did you decide yours was the right god? Thanks. I am a Bible Believing follower of Jesus Christ.... I have been 2 Many Churches however I choose to be with this one.. To the Church in Philadelphia 7 “To the angel of the church in Philadelphia write: These are the words of him who is holy and true, who holds the key of David. What he opens no one can shut, and what he shuts no one can open. 8 I know your deeds. See, I have placed before you an open door that no one can shut. I know that you have little strength, yet you have kept my word and have not denied my name. 9 I will make those who are of the synagogue of Satan, who claim to be Jews though they are not, but are liars—I will make them come and fall down at your feet and acknowledge that I have loved you. 10 Since you have kept my command to endure patiently, I will also keep you from the hour of trial that is going to come on the whole world to test the inhabitants of the earth. 11 I am coming soon. Hold on to what you have, so that no one will take your crown. 12 The one who is victorious I will make a pillar in the temple of my God. Never again will they leave it. I will write on them the name of my God and the name of the city of my God, the new Jerusalem, which is coming down out of heaven from my God; and I will also write on them my new name. 13 Whoever has ears, let them hear what the Spirit says to the churches. Your a wolf in sheep clothing a false prophet that Zeus predicted |
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itsamadmadworld User ID: 12777701 United States 12/12/2012 07:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ummm oh yeah also... do all religions require you to pay?? I don't have a job and I don't really have any money but all the religions i've been to go around collecting money... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9788321 Please I don't have money and the people look at me funny when I don't give.... Think for yourself. Read, learn, study various philosophies, appreciate nature, respect animals, be true to yourself - do not allow others to brainwash you into believing as they believe. Never give money you don't have to any church. PROPHETS = PROFITS |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 26795689 United States 12/12/2012 07:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That is what God the creator states, not I my friend. My hope and prayers are that all are able to see the kingdom of heaven. Quoting: Merci But it is God that states some will not. Just hoping you my friend will be meeting me in heaven. I've found the Kingdom of Heaven, it is within your own being. It is recognizing the divinity and eternal nature of your own soul, your consciousness. How are you going to 'see' it with your eyes when it's within you? You have to FEEL it. God/Creator is LIGHT, even the bible says as much. God does not author books, nor does God create organized religions. You can tell me that the man-made books are the 'word of God' until you are blue in the face but I will never subscribe to that belief because I know that an indvidual's relationship with God/Creator is a personal one and is NEVER found in a book, a church, or any other source that is external to your own being. I hope you will be able to understand. And what did Christ say? The Kingdom is within you I know this W.H.... Can you please tell me why so many Christians condemn and exclude those who do not follow the bible or accept Jesus Christ as their savior? Why do I need a man-made book and an external 'savior' if the instructions are to soul search and find the kingdom of heaven WITHIN? Are books and external saviors found within me? I know the answer but I want to here another perspective. |