40-DAY FAST: Can Canada Survive?

The Native peoples of north america are so very different then most of these posts would have you believe. We were warriors yes, but we almost never made war. Our battles were usually small skirmishes over various disputes. The Nations as a whole almost never went to war. Our history as it is taught to most comes from sources who have never met an elder much less had a conversation with one(most clans have accurate oral histories).
I firmly believe our peoples need a cultural awakening. Our elders are still there to teach us the old ways, the old stories. Yet for how much longer? Our peoples should be leaders and exemplars of enviromental stewardship. Imagine if we invested our reservation resources into clean sustainable energy, eco-friendly farming, and clean drinking water. And thats just the begining of what our peoples could do if we remember who we are.
I have alot more to say on this subject, but I dont wish to derail the thread.

perfect

more of it. longer,
encore, encore.
many more issue's at hand.


nice corner that yonge st and dundas
been there protesting a few times. flyers dvds,LOUDLY
main intersection in Toronto, eaton centre.
they are trying to recreate times square in new york, well sort of..lol

i have seen it grow over 25 + years now

Tell you what after there is no more money to give you out maybe you will be able to build your own houses..oh wait your too lazy to do that your probably go back living in tipees.

I live on montreal west island.

most people who live here cant even speak french.

Well for example, we all need to topple that bill and him by the way.

However, the oil rigs up past Fort McMurray, are Native run. If you're native you don't pay taxes. Also if you are native and you take advantage of the eductional funds, and get a higher degree such as engineering, or electrical engineering, you'll get jobs before others.

This has nothing whatsoever to do with the evil of that bill and the fascist behavior of the wanna be dictator Harper.

He has declared himself CEO of a corporation which is treason and fascism. Only the Constitution empowers laws, and there are many unlawful bills signed, but they truly are illegal. Only common law empowers anything, including the constitutions, and thats because there are no LAWS, only Virtues, thou shalt not harm, in the cosmos.

You serious?

That goes for many people, of many races of color, it doesn't apply to only one. Nice try!

actually im very educated

im welsh & I live in montreal

do you know how many pure english schools are all over western quebec & montreal city itself???

most people have no clue

im not against french people or native people

im not against anybody

I dont give a fuck if your alien from outer space or fuckin sasquatch from idaho... just have love & respect & your good in my books

Indians get everything for free and piss it all away. I wish I could get my school paid for!

One band wiping the other out but for the slaves they allowed to live, no Marcus of Queensbury rules there, so let's stop slinging the first nations camp-fire kumbaya BS.

True^^ A lot of Natives are not designed for school, especially the full blooded ones. They were designed with a Warriors attitude, along with their hunting/survival skills.

Its called culture change, it's only been a few hundred or even a hundred years, when they were taken from their homes, and put in boarding schools.

savages

This is B.S. the redskins are already way overcompenstated monetarily by the Canadian goverment and the working class tax payers.

:clap hands:

Times are difficult, and changing fast ... .

There is a place, you just need to sit on it. This earth needs indians more than ever.

Yes, they battled each other, for the prime hunting grounds, like all aboriginal tribes did.

They battled for the survival of their tribe. They also had peace pacts with the opposing tribe, on hunting boundaries, and once in a while, one might over step the boundaries, that caused skirmishes.

They didn't battle with each other, for the fun of it.

Man, we, the supposed to be great white race, are able to completely bury this whole earth for much less than that .... .

While you're busy talking about the abuse, sexual assaults/rapes and inhuman treatment suffered by Canadas Indigenous people....dont forget several KEY points:

1. The majority of whites in this country have nothing to do with any form of negative treatment suffered by Indigenous people

2. Nothing you are saying is going to help motivate a large portion of the Indigenous peoples to help themselves.....there's alot of substance abuse, alcohol abuse and PHYSICAL abuse inflicted by these Indigenous people on their OWN people AND children.....today

3. The CHRC is also interested in the rights of ALL CANADIANS....so that would include my right to walk safely to the convenience store without being stabbed, robbed or beat up by gangs of natives whom are causing problems in cities across Canada...and believe me when I say this...they REALLY HATE whites.


Further.....are White Canadians going to be held accountable for the actions of those from the past? Really? Forever? Because....lol..I wasnt raised to disrespect other cultures...I wasnt raised a racist and truly dont understand the fear and loathing of other colours......but I do know that before you post a thread for discussion of this magnitude....it is MY OPINION...THAT YOU GET THE FACTS STRAIGHT.....because the truth isnt always what the media publishes nor is it always the word of those portrayed as the victims either. Indigenous people suffered in the past....and some still suffer.....but it doesnt mean we ALL have to pay for it generation after generaton.

^^^^^^^^^^THIS!!!!!!


You are a shining example for your people....and everyone in this world who will listen....

I here your sentiments, most have completely lost their way of living, especially the younger ones, who is all tough and mighty in pacts.

Funny how all this happens to minorities though. It like their souls are full of anger and rage against society, that they have to form gangs, for the sense of belonging.

When they should be listening to their other side of the soul, that want peace and unity as the sou remembered from the past. They forgot the way to fight the good fight, to respect the land and the inhabitants that they share it with.

This ^^
It's actually true. Most of the horrid situations on the reservation is due to bad policy by the chiefs, which hurts the people living there. A lot of the native American tribes are seriously racist and their racist policies are hurting them. Some of them got smart and started to allow businesses from all over the world to come onto their reservation with business incentives which has helped them tremendously, while others continue on with their ass backwards policy and continue to blame white people for all their problems, and continue to live in destitution.

I know of two reservations near me, one is successful, the other is not. The one near me opened up to business and property ownership on the reservation and is thriving, crime went down all over the area while the other is as closed as North Korea, where the Natives living there will shoot you for even driving near it. Really people, stop believing this nonsense that all these native Americans are nothing but peace lovers. A lot of them are seriously violent and ends up being unreported because the nation is allowed to hide it. I can turn on my police scanner right now and I can bet you 90% of the police calls are on the reservation for some violent crimes, but it never ends up in the statistics.

tres tres bien !!

I, for one, will miss the canukistanis when they have to all move to other parts of the dominion.


And I hope the people on the island hungry have good luck and catch a fish But on all the accurate survival shows they say it is really hard to just decide to catch a fish. you basically have to know their patterns. when they are hitting on what bait, etc.

From the CBC, website of George Stroumboulopoulos talk show:

[link to www.cbc.ca]

Headline:

As The Chief Of Attawapiskat Marks Her 10th Day On A Hunger Strike, Another First Nation Community Faces A Crisis This Winter

Excerpt:

The Pikangikum First Nation reserve in northern Ontario...

Unemployment there is 90 per cent. There's a severe housing shortage and most homes have no indoor toilets or running water.

Not good, when temperatures can drop to -40C.

On top of that, the school has been forced to close because there's not enough fuel to keep the generators going. Teachers have left for the time being.

Last year, mould problems forced the elementary school to close, so 700 children had to repeat a year.

Gas sniffing is also common among young people. Hunger can be a problem, as food is a lot more expensive than it is in southern Ontario.

And there are gravestones - a lot of them. In a community of about 2,400, more than 60 young people have committed suicide over the past ten years.

In fact, between 2006 and 2008, there were 16 suicides by hanging, some by children as young as 10 years old.




Some governments use false flag gunmen in covert hit teams to kill children.

Other governments use social programs, such as sterilizations, confiscation of children by social workers (to be placed in abusive foster homes), and denial of elementary school education.

University scholarships for Native Canadians are great, sure... but first you have to live long enough to get through high school.

Last Edited by 13th-Century on 12/24/2012 08:02 PM

This is so sad. I wish people could wake up and fix these problems.

Thank you for bringing up the finances. You have swallowed the government slander against Attawapiskat 'hook, line, and sinker'.

Interested in some facts, for a change?

Many people seem to be labouring under the misapprehension that First Nations have self-governance and run themselves freely. This is far from the truth, but given that most Canadians are familiar with the municipal model, the confusion is actually understandable. It isn’t as though Canada does a very good job of teaching people about the Indian Act.

Attawapiskat publishes its financial statements going back to 2005. If you want to know where the money was spent, you can look in the audited financial reports. This document (PDF) is available in the linked article from "The National Post" (December 2011)...it provides a breakdown of all program funding.

[link to fullcomment.nationalpost.com]

Just getting to this stage alone proves the falsehood of the claim that there is no accountability and no one knows where the money goes.

Yes, Attawapiskat received $90 million in 5 years from the Canadian government. That refers to the total; the average is about $18 million per year in federal funding since 2006.
This was not earmarked for housing, and it was not available for Chief Spence to spend at her discretion. Hardly.

An important fact that many commentators forget (or are unaware of) is that section 91(24) of the Constitution Act of 1867 gives the Federal Crown exclusive powers over “Indians, and Lands reserved for the Indians.”

EVERYTHING - including healthcare, infrastructure, education cost per pupil, social services of all kinds - For non-Natives, the provinces pay for this. For Natives, it is all federal funding.

The Canadian Department of Aboriginal Affairs has reported that only $5.8 million has gone towards housing for Attawapiskat, in 5 years. At most that could have built the community 23 new houses, if Attawapiskat had merely let the older houses go without any repairs or maintenance for 5 years. Letting existing homes go to pieces in a remote and harsh environment is not a great strategy, however.

Other costs are incurred: the people in charge of housing do not work for free, and there are other costs associated with administering the housing program.

The point here is, $90 million sounds like a huge amount, but the real figures allocated to housing, for example, are much, much smaller.

Band councils have their hands tied!

Ministerial approval is actually a requirement before any capital expenditures can occur on reserve. In practice, a Band will generally pass a Band Council Resolution (BCR) authorising a certain expenditure (say on housing), and that BCR must be forwarded to Aboriginal Affairs for approval.

That’s right. Most First Nations have to get permission before they can spend money. That is the opposite of ‘doing whatever they want’ with the money. Bands are micromanaged to an extent unseen in nearly any other context that does not involve a minor or someone who lacks capacity due to mental disability.

The bottom line to all this is federal bungling of the management of First Nations infrastructure, housing, and education. This as been pointed out by the Auditor General of Canada in 2011, in a formal report, as well as 5 years earlier in 2006... identifying deficiencies in program planning and delivery by Indian and Northern Affairs Canada (INAC), Health Canada, the Canada Mortgage and Housing Corporation (CMHC), and the Treasury Board of Canada Secretariat.

The reports also provide a number of recommendations to improve these deficiencies. The 2011 report evaluated the progress made since the 2006 report, and in most areas, gave these federal agencies a failing grade.

Example: Housing

Were you aware that provincial building codes do not apply on reserve? Some provincial laws of ‘general application’ (like Highway Traffic Acts) can apply on reserve, but building codes do not. There is a federal National Building Code, but enforcement and inspection has been a major problem. This has been listed as one of the factors in why homes built on reserve do not have a similar ‘life’ to those built off reserve.

Poor timing for provision of funds is another key issue. “Most contribution agreements must be renewed yearly. In previous audits, we found that the funds may not be available until several months into the period to be funded.” This is particularly problematic for housing as “money often doesn’t arrive until late summer, past the peak construction period, so projects get delayed and their costs rise.”

Can you see now that Harper has been lying in his Conservative Party's repeated vilification of Chief Spence and other First Nations leaders? How coldly calculating to distort the issues, for political gain -- completely disengaged from the real suffering he has caused?

:Chief Spence:

I mean no disrespect, but this information is often not seen and hard to find. Forgive me if it dose not pertain to modern concerns. I feel it may have important data sets that may link to modern concerns.
If this is proves not to be true, know it is not my intent to derail your thread.

[link to www.dickshovel.com]
The following is from the page:
"[Note: This is a single part of what will be, by my classification, about 240 compact tribal histories (contact to 1900). It is limited to the lower 48 states of the U.S. but also includes those First Nations from Canada and Mexico that had important roles (Huron, Micmac, Assiniboine, etc.)."

all of the above

:Chief Spence 2: