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Lips Of Lucifer  User ID: 13948941  South Africa02/23/2013 03:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 5 stars and pin suggestion. Quoting: Tigershield Why? Because there was a commercial on TV just a moment ago. That promotes dating with people that are more elite. World is fucked up, and OP is 100% right. Bullshit! OP, is a whiny ass! Women have made contributions in science and math, but of course, not as much as men;, because they were at home raising the children! Women had to fight just to be allowed to vote and hold positions among men. It's been a man's world! Women should be treated with equality and that means EQUAL pay! Look where man's world has led us! We are on the brink of destruction in this technological and warfare age. If you have a problem with women, guys, maybe it's your own shortcomings.  Nuff said... |
| EscapeVelocity User ID: 20440129  United States02/23/2013 03:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Agreed, my wife is very intelligent, just finished another degree and is also very entrepreneurial, always trying to make or squeeze a buck somewhere. However, she never needs to be asked to do household tasks, in fact sometimes I have to kick her out of the house and make her spend time for herself, with her friends, spending our money for well earned leisure. When I have to work insane hours for a case, I don't get complaints that I'm not home, I get words of appreciation and encouragement. When I come home I am fed a delicious home cooked meal and all of my boy needs are met without even having to ask. It's not money, we have some modest means now, but when we met I was in between jobs and had no income.. Although I fixed that situation as soon as was possible. In my opinion, i have been blessed to find a wife who is not afraid to be a real woman, she takes pride in taking care of us.. she could have her own school easy, but she has made our home life her priority and In return, I would kill for this woman, I would die for her, without hesitation.. As long as i am alive, and for long after.. She will never be hungry, she will never be cold, never be in danger, never be defenseless and never be unloved. This is my part as a husband, and it's not just a responsibility, it is my honor. And in case your wondering, no... she is not American.. Has seen the writing on the wall and does not want to be. we will be moving back to her country when we are no longer safe in my own. I do see what everybody talks about with American women.. It exists.. But I have also met some real sweethearts in my past, they also exist.. They are still out there, not all California blonds are money grubbing, materialistic bitches.. Most are, but there are exceptions. Last Edited by EscapeVelocity on 02/23/2013 03:53 PM "I know that the molecules in my body are traceable to phenomena in the cosmos. That makes me want to grab people on the street and say: 'Have you HEARD THIS?" -Neil deGrasse Tyson :fly_sail: If you hate my avatar.. you are going to love this.. [link to youtu.be] In Death members of Project Mayhem Have a name. His name is James M. Boyd. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 35021612  India02/23/2013 03:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Men of this generation were raised on video games and TV cartoons, so dont blame the women. I am a man myself and think that women become better when they get equality and freedom. If a woman says no to you, respect her decision. The problem is with how men were raised. In the past, boys became men at 16. Nowadays they become men at 32, if at all they do. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 35021635  Argentina02/23/2013 03:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | wait for the SHILLs to come out to put the blame on men.Thats how women operate, they are manipulative.They use dirty tactics to turn your emotions against you,play games and put you in a constant state of lower conconciousness. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17299182 Men need to rise up before its too late Wow you just nailed it so well... And of that statement that you concur with, do you feel it's right to do those things to women? How many 3rd world men are being sold for livestock as husbands and house/breeding slaves to women? How many men are denied full reproductive rights? How many men are shamed for being slightly overweight (1st world problems)?? Show and prove. Nail that shit. I coldn't agree more with you. You're just adding more detailed info about what the above poster I quoted say before you. Point is, in occidental societies, there are more and more women becoming real bitches. They manipulate us, they don't play even, they will hurt you, they will lie to you so well you won't even notice. They do that because they KNOW for sure that if something isn't working well in a relationship, there are DOZENS of other guys looking for them, wanting them. Like I said before, it's OUR fault. We, MEN, should define rules, we shouldn't be governed by our genitals, we should not try to get those women that are in a relationship, we need to manage our impulses and STOP acting like animals. Like a poster above said before, we need to elevate our standars, we need to learn to say NO, to pick wisely, and NOT to take EVERY opportunity we have to try to get laid just because it seems to be 'there'. We, MEN, are a big part of this problem. We need to change in order to expect them to change. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 35018041  Germany02/23/2013 03:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Men of this generation were raised on video games and TV cartoons, so dont blame the women. I am a man myself and think that women become better when they get equality and freedom. If a woman says no to you, respect her decision. The problem is with how men were raised. In the past, boys became men at 16. Nowadays they become men at 32, if at all they do. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35021612 Without the computer games as a distraction, society as it is would collapse immediately (yes i am dead serious) |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 35018041 Germany02/23/2013 03:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Men of this generation were raised on video games and TV cartoons, so dont blame the women. I am a man myself and think that women become better when they get equality and freedom. If a woman says no to you, respect her decision. The problem is with how men were raised. In the past, boys became men at 16. Nowadays they become men at 32, if at all they do. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35021612 Without the computer games as a distraction, society as it is would collapse immediately (yes i am dead serious) i actually hope for some of those feminist douchebags to try banning them |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 35021612 India02/23/2013 04:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Men of this generation were raised on video games and TV cartoons, so dont blame the women. I am a man myself and think that women become better when they get equality and freedom. If a woman says no to you, respect her decision. The problem is with how men were raised. In the past, boys became men at 16. Nowadays they become men at 32, if at all they do. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35021612 Without the computer games as a distraction, society as it is would collapse immediately (yes i am dead serious) It did not collapse when video games were not there. Boys in the past had other distractions that actually helped in their personality developed. If boys were playing outdoor sports, learning to swim, observed animals in the forest etc, they would become much wiser. The sperm count of men has decreased steeply since the last few decades, is it also because of women? Blaming women for one's emasculation is in fact an affirmation of one's emasculation. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1324238 United States02/23/2013 04:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The sperm count of men has decreased steeply since the last few decades, is it also because of women? Blaming women for one's emasculation is in fact an affirmation of one's emasculation. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35021612 They are self-fulfilling their own prophecy, and not even aware of it. Applause. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 35018041 Germany02/23/2013 04:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Men of this generation were raised on video games and TV cartoons, so dont blame the women. I am a man myself and think that women become better when they get equality and freedom. If a woman says no to you, respect her decision. The problem is with how men were raised. In the past, boys became men at 16. Nowadays they become men at 32, if at all they do. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35021612 Without the computer games as a distraction, society as it is would collapse immediately (yes i am dead serious) It did not collapse when video games were not there. Boys in the past had other distractions that actually helped in their personality developed. If boys were playing outdoor sports, learning to swim, observed animals in the forest etc, they would become much wiser. The sperm count of men has decreased steeply since the last few decades, is it also because of women? Blaming women for one's emasculation is in fact an affirmation of one's emasculation. Men are no longer required in most of society - women are cheaper and have simply replaced them. idle men will implode the system quite swiftly since all of the societal safeguards, morality have been swept away. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 35021612 India02/23/2013 04:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Men of this generation were raised on video games and TV cartoons, so dont blame the women. I am a man myself and think that women become better when they get equality and freedom. If a woman says no to you, respect her decision. The problem is with how men were raised. In the past, boys became men at 16. Nowadays they become men at 32, if at all they do. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35021612 Without the computer games as a distraction, society as it is would collapse immediately (yes i am dead serious) It did not collapse when video games were not there. Boys in the past had other distractions that actually helped in their personality developed. If boys were playing outdoor sports, learning to swim, observed animals in the forest etc, they would become much wiser. The sperm count of men has decreased steeply since the last few decades, is it also because of women? Blaming women for one's emasculation is in fact an affirmation of one's emasculation. Men are no longer required in most of society - women are cheaper and have simply replaced them. idle men will implode the system quite swiftly since all of the societal safeguards, morality have been swept away. The problem is overpopulation and lack of room for infinite growth of humanity. If we had much lesser population today, everyone, including both men and women, would have greater respect. Diamonds have value because they are rare. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 35018041 Germany02/23/2013 04:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35018041 Without the computer games as a distraction, society as it is would collapse immediately (yes i am dead serious) It did not collapse when video games were not there. Boys in the past had other distractions that actually helped in their personality developed. If boys were playing outdoor sports, learning to swim, observed animals in the forest etc, they would become much wiser. The sperm count of men has decreased steeply since the last few decades, is it also because of women? Blaming women for one's emasculation is in fact an affirmation of one's emasculation. Men are no longer required in most of society - women are cheaper and have simply replaced them. idle men will implode the system quite swiftly since all of the societal safeguards, morality have been swept away. The problem is overpopulation and lack of room for infinite growth of humanity. If we had much lesser population today, everyone, including both men and women, would have greater respect. Diamonds have value because they are rare. society cannot be reset like that regardless war even mass depopulation or whatever. this is how the pieces fell and that is how it will end. |
| Janus198 User ID: 875736 United States02/23/2013 04:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | eh just fuck women in general Quoting: SteamrolledGobias get money, get power, get rich. women just want to suck that all up and leech off your money/power/fame fuck women. they're the ones that want relationships. all the girls I have ever known HATE being alone and really want somebody, even just a best friend. all the boys I have ever known are 100% okay with being alone for their lives. they enjoy company, but would be content living alone doing their own thing. women need men more. I agree with OPs sentiment that the media pushes a lot against poor, jobless men. "youre not a man unless you can provide for your family" how about fuck having a family in the first place? get rich and take care of yourself, take care of your mom and your dad. fuck women. Women have low tolerance for each other, but endless tolerance for the worst sort of male. 99.9% of women are not capable of camaraderie. They are capable of organizing with each other, but only if there is a group goal that does not include any sort of recreation. It's hardwired. Men have low tolerance for females, but endless tolerance for each other and camaraderie will be established despite circumstances. Men will accept the occasional female into that circle, but will keep that a dead stone secret, since their wives girlfriends, sig others etc., will seek and destroy her if possible. It's hardwired. A woman will rat out anyone, any time without regard for consequences, thinking justice will prevail if no lies are told and everything is out in the open. A man won't rat out his worst enemy if his life is threatened, preferring to deal with his worst enemy himself. Also hardwired. Women could learn from men, but men insist they want porn stars, sports and beer, not trusted female companions, with whom they partner to create heirs. Wives. Men could learn from women, who are hardwired to bear and raise children, but they are too busy swilling beer, pursuing pornstars, and watching pro sports. By the way, men are not hardwired to be fathers. It's an acquired skill. If there were televised medals for that, there is no child in America who would be without a father. Janus198 |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 35009917 United States02/23/2013 04:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Women are leading the Western Nations into bankruptcy - living longer on average, they are a greater drag on the social and healthcare system. Don't bother using the excuse of childbearing, since you do not breed anyway. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35018041 Bullshit. You kn ow how many men get very sick as they age and are lucky to be married to a caring woman who changes their diapers and caters to every need. All you selfish singles may wake up one day realizing that there is no one who gives a shit about you and you'll end up at the mercy of government "health care" programs. The best case scenario is that they will put you in some looney house and keep you pumped up with pills and sedated, the more likely scenario is that they will let you go down the tubes with no pain killers and no time for any compassion. You'll be scared to death and all alone. People who value partnership and respect each other care for each other as long as they live. |
| Bittercritter User ID: 26255514 United States02/23/2013 04:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Any "minority" (that now oddly includes women) is catered to by the MSM and held up as victims of oppression by white men. That's how politics have worked for the last 20 years at least here in the US. I know dozens of white women who voted for Obama for no reason other than he looked better than the other candidate. That;s a sad statement in and of itself but many white men voted for Obama simply to be able to assuage their collective undeserved guilt by voting for a black guy. (half black but it's how he looks that counts, right?) Now they say we're ready for women in combat! I can't believe we've sunk so low. I feel women are to be protected (not pampered). When each sex performed understood roles everything seemed to work much better. Women raised kids and made a home while the man worked and supported them. This worked well for thousands of years until they figured out if we fought against each other they could manipulate us even more. Next step is learning to hate ourselves so much we self-destruct. We see this in men returning from combat in the Middle East. Great future we have ahead, don't we? |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 35018041 Germany02/23/2013 05:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Women are leading the Western Nations into bankruptcy - living longer on average, they are a greater drag on the social and healthcare system. Don't bother using the excuse of childbearing, since you do not breed anyway. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35018041 Bullshit. You kn ow how many men get very sick as they age and are lucky to be married to a caring woman who changes their diapers and caters to every need. All you selfish singles may wake up one day realizing that there is no one who gives a shit about you and you'll end up at the mercy of government "health care" programs. The best case scenario is that they will put you in some looney house and keep you pumped up with pills and sedated, the more likely scenario is that they will let you go down the tubes with no pain killers and no time for any compassion. You'll be scared to death and all alone. People who value partnership and respect each other care for each other as long as they live. 'How many' does not count. It's the statistics that have to be used by insurances and the health 'care' system as you put it. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 4284512 United States02/23/2013 05:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Girls can to everything better is the new message. Girls are better thinkers, better lovers, better people, better cowboys, better men, better boys, better bosses, better doctors, they are better in everything is the new message everywhere. Quoting: Jup So long as being responsible and accountable is not on the list. thats the story, mornin glory. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 35009917 United States02/23/2013 05:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Women are leading the Western Nations into bankruptcy - living longer on average, they are a greater drag on the social and healthcare system. Don't bother using the excuse of childbearing, since you do not breed anyway. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35018041 Bullshit. You kn ow how many men get very sick as they age and are lucky to be married to a caring woman who changes their diapers and caters to every need. All you selfish singles may wake up one day realizing that there is no one who gives a shit about you and you'll end up at the mercy of government "health care" programs. The best case scenario is that they will put you in some looney house and keep you pumped up with pills and sedated, the more likely scenario is that they will let you go down the tubes with no pain killers and no time for any compassion. You'll be scared to death and all alone. People who value partnership and respect each other care for each other as long as they live. 'How many' does not count. It's the statistics that have to be used by insurances and the health 'care' system as you put it. Good luck putting your trust in the health care system to take care of you when your ass is old. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 11333543 United States02/23/2013 08:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | One star for lack of self respect and extreme hostility toward women. Someone else's success is not the cause of your downfall. Find a bondage club somewhere in your area and take out your aggression s on a consenting adult of either sex who wants to be hurt. Quoting: Little Bee haha yea your deff a woman |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 34499806 United States02/24/2013 09:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 5 stars and pin suggestion. Quoting: Tigershield Why? Because there was a commercial on TV just a moment ago. That promotes dating with people that are more elite. World is fucked up, and OP is 100% right. Agreed. This is the current state if our world. Probably started with empowering black women with the old "black woman can fill two minority slots" mentality at work. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 35050011 Germany02/24/2013 12:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I decided to use this title, because it fits, and not because a book with the same title exists. This discussion should not just be about a certain book, because all kind of different things like movies, books, magazines and people talk very bad about men. On one side every book and every movie in the 60s, 70s, 80s and 90s made men look like they are a mix of a James Bond and a mythological god. Girls did everything just to get a kiss from a men. Quoting: Jup Girls even started to cry in movies just to get a little bit respect from men. Today men cry to get a little bit respect from girls. The new alpha bitch (Thats also the title of a book by the way) is the new 24 hour activated weapon and men are looking exactly into this 24 hour activated alpha bitch mode weapon, called "modern" female. Men just are living these days without any reason. Men lost their goal of life. Men have mostly not a lot money these days or no money at all. Men are living at their mothers house at age 28 because men do not have a good chance anymore to find a job, because females take away more and more jobs and sections that actually should be full of guys because in the 90s and 80s shops used guys everywhere, but these days you just see cute sexy looking girls in the shops working. Thats not just in my country like that. Go to england, go to america, go to asia or wherever you are, girls are in the office, instead of guys and thats also because the boss rather will choose a hot girl, instead a guy, thats just happy to make some money, so he can hang around with friends and drink some beer in clubs on weekends. The boss will rather give jobs to hot beautiful girls. Its not just a made up idea. Just think about the fact that you, as a men, also would rather have a hot blonde next to you all day in the office, instead of a guy. Its also a problem that modern females are extremly bold and devilish, they are, just compare the the females you see in 80s and 70s movies and compare them with the modern females of today. The guys didn´t changed. The guys still are looking for the "big thing" in life, still looking for knowledge, fun and extreme situations. But the females just changed in a very negative way because all kind of different persons changed the way we see and understand females. Scientists, doctors and all kind of people started around the end of the 90s to talk 24 hours about the "new" facts why females are so much better! And at the same time doctors and scientists talked about guys like guys just are a bunch of perverts with sick fantasies about rape, violence and criminal activity! The "new" men was born soon! The men of media! All hate of this world he received. We do not need anymore primitive stupid stone-age men in our modern society! - was the new subliminal message everywhere and this still is going on today in every magazine, book, tv show, tv movie, tv series and and and! Poor men of today! Also if again a child got killed or molested, of course, a guy was the sick pervert! Thats again some brilliant concept to project even more the picture of a sick pervert primitive dangerous bad criminal beast on the - official - picture of men. Guys are totally bullshit. Thats the new subliminal message everywhere. Females are the new alphas + bosses. Thats also the new subliminal message. Girls can to everything better is the new message. Girls are better thinkers, better lovers, better people, better cowboys, better men, better boys, better bosses, better doctors, they are better in everything is the new message everywhere. Also science said years ago that men has more brain because its bigger. Now science says females have more brain because their brains have more nerve-cells. And science says the both sides of the brain are better connected, higher emotional intelligence is the result and stronger depper intelligence. But why everything that exists got designed and invented by men if females are so much better? Mathematics, if I read books about mathematics, not one female is there with mathematical theories. Or astronomy, or the industry, or synthesizers (did girls invented and constructed them? No.), or technology itself, not one girl has anything done or created on this planet. Females just put pervert clothes on to sex up guys and what guys get back? The official message that guys just want sex! But what do females expect if you see all day on every channel just naked or half naked girls doing things that really are just making guys explode in their pants? What do you all expect? That guys will watch away? No, guys want sex and they get these days not that easy anymore sex like they used to get in the 90s, 80s, 70s, 60s, 50s, 40s and so on. Because the hole situation is now against men. And females think bad about men because everyone on media is against men. So just the few guys that are very good looking, have very much friends in higher positions, have a very important job, a lot of money, drive a nice car and have around age 25 already their own house - such guys will make it and girls just are looking for such guys these days. And these days girls are looking more for such guys like in the 90s or 80s or 70s. So these days men are just a bunch of loosers for the media. There is a female movement. But there is no male movement. Why? We need one. And we guys need to talk about this stuff. To stay silent will be not the solution. |
| ElusivePisces User ID: 11156436 United States02/24/2013 12:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why cant men discuss the plight of men without blaming women? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1191463 Why cant men help and support other men? This is an opportunity for men to evolve emotionally. Whining and complaining on the internet wont help muchand comes off as misogyny. Women are devilish? Really? I can just as easily say all men are abusers....see? GENERALIZATIONS are not true. You would matters by quitting the blame game and by helping other men develop their own self worth. ^ Amazingly wise comment here.^ |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 34817033  Netherlands02/24/2013 03:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If I had to choose which system today provides a more classic family lifestyle and better place for children, The Muslims or Middle eastern and Asian systems seem to provide it better than the West. Did you know? When middle eastern parents count their children their daughters are not included. |
| Jup (OP) User ID: 32952003 Germany02/24/2013 04:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I see all that you people talk to each other. Mostly not in a intelligent way, but at least you try to let other people know what your thoughts about all this are. The main idea of this topic for me is not that females are bullshit. My main idea of this topic is that males are bullshit. The media and endless people and books tell you this these days. Everything what makes a male a male, is these days a problem, for the "experts". Whoever they are, they are thousands and there are 24 hours thousands of these "experts" around for the media industry that "explain" only the bad and negative sides of men. The official picture of men these days: Criminal activity, pedophiles, raping females, drinking beer, playing video games at age 31 at mothers house, perverts that are kissing shoes of latex whores and calling tv shows just to be able to talk to a whore - Thats our modern definition of men. The modern men is just a joke for media, while the modern female is the source of all the good things of mankind for media. The modern men is the source of all bad things of mankind, these days. Thats everything I want to say and the results will be the next great depression of men. Guys lost their general position on earth. Girls just want a guy if he has a lot money. Girls just want a guy if he has a high position. Girls just want good looking guys. A normal guy is these days not worth the definition of a men. A normal guy these days is just worth to make jokes. And thats the reason why 99,9 % of men are sad and feeling meaningless, because 99,9 % of men just are normal guys, without money, without looking like the models you see on tv all day. Reality killed the men of earth because of media and the because of the fact that what the media shows to you is your new reality so its no wonder that guys are these days just a problem for everyone. Just look what happened after a female celebrity around 28 kissed a 15 year old boy on the mouth on the red carpet. Everyone thought its cute and nice. What would happen if a guy around age 28 would kiss a 15 year old girl on the mouth on the red carpet. He would be directly called a criminal. And a pedophile. And a pervert. And a sick guy. And again we would have a huge international discussion about the primitive sick pervert men of earth. You see, females are allowed to do everything, while guys are already a problem, if they just show up somewhere and are like you would interpret a typical male. Nobody complains about females. But everyone complains all the time about males. This will create consequences for the coming generations of men. And it will not get easy for men in future to be a male. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 25867801 United States02/25/2013 05:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | eh just fuck women in general Quoting: SteamrolledGobias get money, get power, get rich. women just want to suck that all up and leech off your money/power/fame fuck women. they're the ones that want relationships. all the girls I have ever known HATE being alone and really want somebody, even just a best friend. all the boys I have ever known are 100% okay with being alone for their lives. they enjoy company, but would be content living alone doing their own thing. women need men more. I agree with OPs sentiment that the media pushes a lot against poor, jobless men. "youre not a man unless you can provide for your family" how about fuck having a family in the first place? get rich and take care of yourself, take care of your mom and your dad. fuck women. Good man. |
