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I thought that Christ and God followers are not supposed to worry about the future and trust in god with faith that he will provide? Why on this site do i see posters spreading doom and end-time prophecies on threads here claim to be Christians? isn't the act of posting that kind of material while claiming to have faith in christ a paradox?
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We are merely showing what scripture says will soon take place.
There is a process to how it all ends. Read Matthew 24. Is simply repeating that , not having faith in God!? Really come on. Wow
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We are merely showing what scripture says will soon take place.
There is a process to how it all ends. Read Matthew 24. Is simply repeating that , not having faith in God!? Really come on. Wow
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Great answer brother!
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Apocalypse does not mean doom. It means revealing.
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I thought that Christ and God followers are not supposed to worry about the future and trust in god with faith that he will provide? Why on this site do i see posters spreading doom and end-time prophecies on threads here claim to be Christians? isn't the act of posting that kind of material while claiming to have faith in christ a paradox?
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Doom happens, God will protect his flock...if you get squished then it's just your time to come home, or God just hates you...
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Then why do so many respond to alternative viewpoints with arrogance, hatred and pent up anger?

There are so many hypocritical, mixed up messages that come from the obviously confused christian communities that whatever is represented as christianity doesn't come across with any legitimacy at all on the evidence presented.
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idiot, everything is a paradox
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Yo no hate or anger on my end i was just wondering and wanted some different perspectives. I would think that you would not even need to worry about doom or end times if you follow christ. Why would you even worry about posing that type of stuff on here
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Yo no hate or anger on my end i was just wondering and wanted some different perspectives. I would think that you would not even need to worry about doom or end times if you follow christ. Why would you even worry about posing that type of stuff on here
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awareness, also to call people on conversion hf
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idiot, everything is a paradox
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Haha even your reply! cause every thing is not a paradox and only an idiot would call some on an idiot for bringing up one instance of
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I'm a Christian and I pretty much agree with OP.

You have to separate out religion and Jesus.

Jesus was about freedom, joy and just chillin.

Religion is fear, obligation and guilt.

Good point.
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I thought that Christ and God followers are not supposed to worry about the future and trust in god with faith that he will provide? Why on this site do i see posters spreading doom and end-time prophecies on threads here claim to be Christians? isn't the act of posting that kind of material while claiming to have faith in christ a paradox?
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Hahaha! Don't feel bad OP...80% of "christians" don't understand the Bible either and remember...the open side of your safety helmet goes in the front.
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And that why this site sux now cause of shit replies from ignorant cromags like yourself
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idiot, everything is a paradox
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I think that as one grows older as a Christian, one realizes that it is all very complicated and that we do see our world " * through a glass, darkly". We finally give up on our own understanding and come to Him with a childlike faith, then we finally can truly trust Jesus as our literal savior, because we cannot depend on ourselves or fix any of our situation in any way.

That said, keeping up a stocked pantry and knowing enough to flee danger is just human common sense. (that we seem to have lost in our "modern" age)





*12 For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.

1 Corinthians 13:12 (KJV)
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I thought that Christ and God followers are not supposed to worry about the future and trust in god with faith that he will provide? Why on this site do i see posters spreading doom and end-time prophecies on threads here claim to be Christians? isn't the act of posting that kind of material while claiming to have faith in christ a paradox?
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I do so to promote the fear of God. Also I may use some form of bait to lure one to God if possible.
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Quite interesting that you should ask this question? My daughter and I have been just talking about this same thing. As a christian I honestly see both arguments. The scripture clearly states that we are "to watch" (1 Thessalonians 5) so "That Day" not overtake us as a thief in the night. We are also told later in the same chapter "to warn". He also used people such as Joesph in the Bible to interpret the signs of time and "to prepare" for the coming famine and time of trouble. As a result of his obedience many people were saved.

With that said, at the end of the day IT IS about trusting in HIM. We cannot be so consumed with "THE END" that we loose sight of our purpose that He has for us. We must speak the truth in Love and have faith... no matter what the outcome He has for our lives.

It breaks my heart to see those that claim to be Christians speaking such hatred. I can honestly see why others would want nothing to do with the Son of GOD.

Yet honestly I have been silent for far too long. Just as the scripture states GOD is not willing for any to perish but that ALL would come to repentance. Praying you OP and all here would come to know the One True God.

Silent for way to long....
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You thought wrong. Jesus said to be like a watchman on the wall. Be looking for danger and sound the alarm when you see it.
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the bible states know one will know when jesus will come back , and humans very high up in the church have stated it was going to be the end of the world for hundreds of years , so doom threads mean nothing .
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I thought that Christ and God followers are not supposed to worry about the future and trust in god with faith that he will provide? Why on this site do i see posters spreading doom and end-time prophecies on threads here claim to be Christians? isn't the act of posting that kind of material while claiming to have faith in christ a paradox?
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You are grouping all in one basket....


I prefer what Jesus Christ offers and I suggest you try what he has to offer. It is free and makes you free. The following sums it up;

"Come to me, all of you who are tired from carrying heavy loads, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke and put it on you, and learn from me, because I am gentle and humble in spirit; and you will find rest. For the yoke I will give you is easy, and the load I will put on you is light."
(Matthew 11:28-30)

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the bible states know one will know when jesus will come back , and humans very high up in the church have stated it was going to be the end of the world for hundreds of years , so doom threads mean nothing .
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Just wondering what 1 Thess. chapter 5 means then? Might take a look there. He did say that no man will know the day or the hour.... but the seasons we will.

You are right... many "Humans" have gotten it wrong. You questioning this is also in the scripture is also written in the WORD OF GOD.

See check this out....

2 Peter 3: (NLT)

2 I want you to remember what the holy prophets said long ago and what our Lord and Savior commanded through your apostles.

3 Most importantly, I want to remind you that in the last days scoffers will come, mocking the truth and following their own desires. 4 They will say, “What happened to the promise that Jesus is coming again? From before the times of our ancestors, everything has remained the same since the world was first created.”

5 They deliberately forget that God made the heavens by the word of his command, and he brought the earth out from the water and surrounded it with water. 6 Then he used the water to destroy the ancient world with a mighty flood. 7 And by the same word, the present heavens and earth have been stored up for fire. They are being kept for the day of judgment, when ungodly people will be destroyed.

8 But you must not forget this one thing, dear friends: A day is like a thousand years to the Lord, and a thousand years is like a day. 9 The Lord isn’t really being slow about his promise, as some people think. No, he is being patient for your sake. He does not want anyone to be destroyed, but wants everyone to repent. 10 But the day of the Lord will come as unexpectedly as a thief. Then the heavens will pass away with a terrible noise, and the very elements themselves will disappear in fire, and the earth and everything on it will be found to deserve judgment.[a]

11 Since everything around us is going to be destroyed like this, what holy and godly lives you should live, 12 looking forward to the day of God and hurrying it along. On that day, he will set the heavens on fire, and the elements will melt away in the flames. 13 But we are looking forward to the new heavens and new earth he has promised, a world filled with God’s righteousness.

14 And so, dear friends, while you are waiting for these things to happen, make every effort to be found living peaceful lives that are pure and blameless in his sight.

15 And remember, our Lord’s patience gives people time to be saved. This is what our beloved brother Paul also wrote to you with the wisdom God gave him—

Silent for way to long.....
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God told Noah of coming doom and he prepared. God told Joseph of coming doom and he prepared for 7 yrs. God told joseph and Mary to flee to Egypt. God told Lot to flee and he did and was saved from doom. The were saved from doom by listening to God and preparing or fleeing.
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I thought that Christ and God followers are not supposed to worry about the future and trust in god with faith that he will provide? Why on this site do i see posters spreading doom and end-time prophecies on threads here claim to be Christians? isn't the act of posting that kind of material while claiming to have faith in christ a paradox?
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Maybe it's 'you' they're worried about an not 'them' at all..
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Apocalypse does not mean doom. It means revealing.
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with a little doom.....
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President Obama did a combo Passover Easter video



So Jesus came to Jerusalem on Palm Tuesday and then on Passover Saturday night had the Last Supper with the disciples into Sunday the first day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread and was taken away early Sunday morning and was on trial during the week up to Good Friday where Pilate let the people crucify him then he was in the tomb on Saturday the 7th day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread and rose again on Easter Sunday being seen 40 days to Ascension Day Thursday and then 10 days later was Pentecost and the birth of the Church.

0/0 --------------- ALPHA OMEGA NEW YEAR DAY ***( NIAGARA FALLS VERNAL EQUILUX)
MAR 1/10 ------ PALM TUESDAY- PASSOVER LAMB JESUS COMES TO JERUSALEM
MAR 1/14 ------ PASSOVER SATURDAY
MAR 1/15-21 -- FEAST OF UNLEAVENED BREAD
MAR 1/20 ------ GOOD FRIDAY - JESUS CRUCIFIED
MAR 1/21 ------ SATURDAY HIGH HOLY DAY SABBATH JESUS IN THE SEPULCHRE
MAR 1/22 ------ EASTER SUNDAY - JESUS IS RISEN
APR 2/27 ------- MOTHER’S DAY
APR 2/31 ------- ASCENSION DAY THURSDAY(40th DAY OF EASTER)
MAY 3/10 ------ PENTECOST SUNDAY(50th DAY OF EASTER)
[link to newjerusalemcalendar.com]


Do you think America is being New Jerusalemized?

:)

Here we are with the New Jerusalem calendar
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Just because we post current events and how they relate to prophecy doesn't mean we don't have faith LOL it's just the opposite seeing all the fulfillment of prophecy solidifies and increases our faith! I'm not afraid at all about the end because I know whose going to win and I'm on his side!!
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ohyeah
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I thought that Christ and God followers are not supposed to worry about the future and trust in god with faith that he will provide? Why on this site do i see posters spreading doom and end-time prophecies on threads here claim to be Christians? isn't the act of posting that kind of material while claiming to have faith in christ a paradox?
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Jesus prophesied endtime doom. What does that make him OP?
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Just because we post current events and how they relate to prophecy doesn't mean we don't have faith LOL it's just the opposite seeing all the fulfillment of prophecy solidifies and increases our faith! I'm not afraid at all about the end because I know whose going to win and I'm on his side!!
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Please enlighten us, what prophecy has been fulfilled?
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Christians are not (and should not profess to be) perfect. They are always growing, learning, being tested, etc.

I felt your question was a valid one and asked with no aggression and I appreciate that.

Christians make MANY mistakes, daily. That is because becoming Christ-like is a lifelong endeavor and will never be mastered. They are to strive to be more Christ-like each day.

I think many non-Christians don't understand that and judge professed Christians on their lack of mastery.

A new Christian is likely to show a great deal of unChristlike characteristics as they grow in their walk with Christ. Some do develop faster than others, though.

No matter how much a little girl wants to dance exactly like the professional ballerina from day one...it takes many, many hours of study, effort, and practice for an observer to feel she is finally accomplished. No one would expect perfection from her at the beginning.....just improvement day after day.

That is what Christ expects from Christians as well. Yet, many observers are upset to witness the errors of a beginning Christian...expecting instead to see a "seasoned" Christian. When you see the outward actions/words of a Christian, that Christian could be on the first stages of their walk with Jesus.

Me, I know from YEARS of following Jesus NOT to worry about tomorrow and I don't worry, but boy am I curious about the latest news and I find that on GLP sometimes 48 hours before anywhere else. And, Yes, I do know this world will end one day and that Jesus gave us signs to look for....so, I hope to see those signs here 1st.

I do see new-angry Christians here and it makes me a bit ashamed...but, I have to remind myself that they will eventually let go of the anger as they grow in Christ.hf
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I'm a Christian and I pretty much agree with OP.

You have to separate out religion and Jesus.

Jesus was about freedom, joy and just chillin.

Religion is fear, obligation and guilt.

Good point.
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That's interesting...I'd like that to be true! But before I follow your theological premise - could you help me out by providing Bible verses to back it up?
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Christians are not (and should not profess to be) perfect. They are always growing, learning, being tested, etc.

I felt your question was a valid one and asked with no aggression and I appreciate that.

Christians make MANY mistakes, daily. That is because becoming Christ-like is a lifelong endeavor and will never be mastered. They are to strive to be more Christ-like each day.

I think many non-Christians don't understand that and judge professed Christians on their lack of mastery.

A new Christian is likely to show a great deal of unChristlike characteristics as they grow in their walk with Christ. Some do develop faster than others, though.

No matter how much a little girl wants to dance exactly like the professional ballerina from day one...it takes many, many hours of study, effort, and practice for an observer to feel she is finally accomplished. No one would expect perfection from her at the beginning.....just improvement day after day.

That is what Christ expects from Christians as well. Yet, many observers are upset to witness the errors of a beginning Christian...expecting instead to see a "seasoned" Christian. When you see the outward actions/words of a Christian, that Christian could be on the first stages of their walk with Jesus.

Me, I know from YEARS of following Jesus NOT to worry about tomorrow and I don't worry, but boy am I curious about the latest news and I find that on GLP sometimes 48 hours before anywhere else. And, Yes, I do know this world will end one day and that Jesus gave us signs to look for....so, I hope to see those signs here 1st.

I do see new-angry Christians here and it makes me a bit ashamed...but, I have to remind myself that they will eventually let go of the anger as they grow in Christ.hf
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Amen to that!

I think the fulcrum or measure is the depth of "surrender" to Him...yes?
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Just because we post current events and how they relate to prophecy doesn't mean we don't have faith LOL it's just the opposite seeing all the fulfillment of prophecy solidifies and increases our faith! I'm not afraid at all about the end because I know whose going to win and I'm on his side!!





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