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Massachusetts passes mandatory health insurance

 
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04/09/2006 03:04 PM
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Massachusetts passes mandatory health insurance
Mit Romney is a rep running for president and he is also the gov of Mass right now. He started this mandatory health care crap.

So now instead of having a real health care system like the rest of the world I am forced to play in one run by the pill pushing companies.


Well, companies get fined $250 for not getting health insurance for their employees. So they save big time.

I as a person get fined $1000 for not having health insurance.

It will cost me $4500/year to get health insurance.
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04/09/2006 03:23 PM
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Socialism at its' finest, and Romney is suppose to be a GodDamned Republican. Go figure.
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04/09/2006 03:26 PM
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I'd pack up and move. Just another lobbying effort by the health insurance industry.
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04/09/2006 03:27 PM
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Republican means they are whores for anybody with money. Actually they are all whores for money.
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04/09/2006 03:31 PM
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I am leaving this fall for KY. My family landed in 1642 a few miles from my house. They came over here in their own ship, traded it for this whole area when arrived.

And the end result is I am getting out of this fucked up socialist police big business bully state.
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Re: Massachusetts passes mandatory health insurance
Mass. Bill Requires Health Coverage
State Set to Use Auto Insurance As a Model

By David A. Fahrenthold
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, April 5, 2006; A01



BOSTON, April 4 -- The Massachusetts legislature approved a bill Tuesday that would require all residents to purchase health insurance or face legal penalties, which would make this the first state to tackle the problem of incomplete medical coverage by treating patients the same way it does cars.

Gov. Mitt Romney (R) supports the proposal, which would require all uninsured adults in the state to purchase some kind of insurance policy by July 1, 2007, or face a fine. Their choices would be expanded to include a range of new and inexpensive policies -- ranging from about $250 per month to nearly free -- from private insurers subsidized by the state.

Romney said the bill, modeled on the state's policy of requiring auto insurance, is intended to end an era in which 550,000 people go without insurance and their hospital and doctor visits are paid for in part with public funds.

"We insist that everybody who drives a car has insurance," Romney said in an interview. "And cars are a lot less expensive than people."

Tuesday's votes approving the bill -- 154 to 2 in the House and 37 to 0 in the Senate -- were the culmination of two years of politicking and several months of backroom negotiations, as rival health-care plans from Romney and the two Democrat-led chambers were hammered into one.

What resulted is a proposal that health-care experts say is unlike any other in the country. What to do about the 45 million Americans without health insurance has flummoxed both the Bush administration, whose proposal for "health savings accounts" fizzled, and that of Bill Clinton, whose broad plan for health-care changes fell flat.

On the state level, Hawaii and Maine have programs that seek to offer near-universal access to health insurance, and Illinois last year approved a subsidy plan that will widely increase coverage for needy children.

But no state, experts say, has taken the step of making health insurance coverage a legal requirement. The idea was applauded by Uwe E. Reinhardt, a professor of economics and public affairs at Princeton University, who said that he has long believed that the American system of allowing uninsured patients to receive care at the government's expense was nothing more than "freedom to mooch."

"Massachusetts is the first state in America to reach full adulthood," said Reinhardt, noting that the new measure is a move toward personal responsibility. "The rest of America is still in adolescence."

As simple as the idea sounds -- buy insurance or else -- the proposal is complex and, in some cases, still unfinished. For instance, it leaves the task of determining exactly how much some low-income residents will pay for their new, more affordable policies to a new agency that would serve as a liaison between the government, policyholders and private insurance companies.

Because of that uncertainty, some still worry that the residents required to buy insurance would not be able to.

"Who defines what's affordable?" said the Rev. Hurmon Hamilton, a minister in the Boston neighborhood of Roxbury and a leader in an interfaith organization that has pushed for health-care changes.

Another aspect that may change is the $295 annual fee that the bill would require companies to pay for each employee they do not provide with insurance. Legislative leaders have insisted that this money be fed into the pool that would subsidize low-cost policies for the uninsured, but Romney said that would be unnecessary.

"That's likely to be adjusted by me," he said -- potentially through the use of a line-item veto.

This is how Massachusetts leaders envision the plan would work:

Uninsured people earning less than the federal poverty threshold would be able to purchase subsidized policies that have no premiums, and would be responsible for very small co-payment fees for emergency-room visits and other services. Those earning between that amount and three times the poverty-level amount would be able to buy subsidized policies with premiums based on their ability to pay. Though no maximum premium is set in the bill, legislators' intent seems to be for it to top out at about $200 to $250 per month.

All residents will have to provide details about their health insurance policy on their state income tax returns in 2008. Those who do not have insurance would first lose their personal state tax exemption, perhaps worth $150, and later face penalties equal to half the cost of the cheapest policy they should have bought. That might work out to $1,200 per year, officials said. Those who cannot find an affordable plan could obtain a waiver.

Enforcement of the requirement will not be done by hospitals, officials said: They will treat uninsured patients as before.

The bill's passage was celebrated as a victory in the state legislature, with House Speaker Salvatore F. DiMasi (D) telling colleagues that they had succeeded where other states had failed.

"We did something to solve the problem," he said.

The same message might provide a political boost to Romney, who is considering a presidential run in 2008. By proving he can work with Democrats, and find a health-care solution that relies on the private sector, Romney can portray himself as an executive who can work across the aisle in harshly partisan times.

"It might help him to say, 'Look, I have a solution for health insurance,' " said Julian E. Zelizer, a professor of history at Boston University.
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04/09/2006 03:36 PM
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The cheapest policy is what they mention. It covers absolutely nothing. And the true sum of people without insurance is close to a million, twice the amount they say. They skewed the amount by only asking spanish speaking people and people who have a phone to make up their expected costs. Its all fake.
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So, if you're never sick, take excellent care of yourself, etc... you'll still be forced to pay minimum $250.00 a month to the insurance/pharmaceutical industry.

Just another sham imposed on the people.
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04/09/2006 03:40 PM
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No one in my families history has ever been sick or had cancer or ever been to a hospital, except to be born.

The $250.00 a month is a false estimate. The real one is around $450.
The ones that cost $250 cover absolutely nothing.



So, if you're never sick, take excellent care of yourself, etc... you'll still be forced to pay minimum $250.00 a month to the insurance/pharmaceutical industry.
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04/09/2006 03:44 PM
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BTW we here in Mass there is only one car insurance company. Thats the only company you are allowed to get insurance from.

No geico etc. Its a freakin socialist communist bolshivek north korean saddam hussein style police state here.
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04/09/2006 03:48 PM
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So if any of you plan on voting for Mit Romney remember he is a mormon from Colorado who came here to Mass a few years ago and became govenor and screwed everyone here.
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04/09/2006 03:49 PM
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just avoid their system
and you don't have to pay their dues
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04/09/2006 03:55 PM
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Every year I have to give the state a list of the furniture in my house, lawnmower, and everything else I own and get taxed for it every year. This state sux and I already made plans to leave this fall.
Taxachusetts.





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