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From the article:

"An 11 month old baby exclusively breastfed by a vegan mother has died and the parents are charged with neglect after an autopsy indicated the baby suffered from deficiencies in vitamin B12 and Vitamin A – both known to be critical to a child’s development.

Vegans have long been advised to take B12 supplements as long term veganism runs the huge risk of serious B12 deficiency as well as other nutrients only found in animal foods such as true Vitamin A. Beta carotene is not true vitamin A nor does it easily convert to adequate amounts of Vitamin A in the body."

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Being vegan is not a healthy lifestyle, it is self deprivation. It is also very dangerous for your children, this child died because of it...

Think about the harm you are doing to others when you try and become Vegan.
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Being vegan is not a healthy lifestyle, it is self deprivation. It is also very dangerous for your children, this child died because of it...

Think about the harm you are doing to others when you try and become Vegan


FAIL.


Being a human being that does not consume the necessary vitamins and minerals for survival is doing harm to yourself and others if you are breast feeding....

eating only meat would've had the same effect on the child, its just as unhealthy- no matter what you need a spectrum of different nutrients.

You can be a healthy vegan, or a healthy meat eater but knowledge of what youre eating and what you need to be eating is essential.

its not about being vegan, its about being ignorant.
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Sometimes babies die, why do we have to blame someone?
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I wonder why the baby wasn't eating solids? I can't imagine a baby old enough to walk getting all of it's nutrients from mom alone.
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I wonder why the baby wasn't eating solids?
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The psychotic vegans were probably against it for vegan reasons.
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*Update: The vegan parents whose baby died as described in this article were convicted by a French court to 5 years in prison due to the imbalanced vegan diet the mother ate which led to nutrient poor breastmilk and a failure to thrive child who eventually fell ill from severe nutrient deficiency and died without the parents ever seeking proper medical attention.

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Sometimes babies die, why do we have to blame someone?
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We are omnivores not herbivores, unless you have a Masters in nutrition you most likely won't get the proper nutrition from a vegetarian diet.
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I wonder why the baby wasn't eating solids?
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The psychotic vegans were probably against it for vegan reasons.
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Sounds like they had all sorts of dietary issues :/
Veganism was probably just a symptom.
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Ok, I'm a guy but I did help raise my child and it seems to me that by 11 months old my kid was eating some baby food.
I know most baby food is veggies and fruit, but there is also meat and other things. Also, I suspect that even veggie baby food may be fortified.
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We are omnivores not herbivores, unless you have a Masters in nutrition you most likely won't get the proper nutrition from a vegetarian diet.
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Ok, I'm a guy but I did help raise my child and it seems to me that by 11 months old my kid was eating some baby food.
I know most baby food is veggies and fruit, but there is also meat and other things. Also, I suspect that even veggie baby food may be fortified.
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If she would have simply used baby formula the kid would be alive...she deserves jail and should be sterilized.
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Re: Baby breastfed by Vegan mother dies... Parents charged with neglect
Being vegan is not a healthy lifestyle, it is self deprivation. It is also very dangerous for your children, this child died because of it...

Think about the harm you are doing to others when you try and become Vegan


FAIL.


Being a human being that does not consume the necessary vitamins and minerals for survival is doing harm to yourself and others if you are breast feeding....

eating only meat would've had the same effect on the child, its just as unhealthy- no matter what you need a spectrum of different nutrients.

You can be a healthy vegan, or a healthy meat eater but knowledge of what youre eating and what you need to be eating is essential.

its not about being vegan, its about being ignorant.
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Not true. The Inuit eat a 100% animal diet. Anthropologists living among them have eaten the same diet over long periods with no ill effects so it isn't just a genetic mutation peculiar to that population. Whole carcass consumption is the key to this way of living. Even just consuming things such as liver and marrow goes a long way towards meeting human dietary needs.
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I wonder why the baby wasn't eating solids? I can't imagine a baby old enough to walk getting all of it's nutrients from mom alone.
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This, by 11months my kids were eating what I was eating, mashed or chopped up and drinking less milk. I breast fed up to a year, and trust me by the time they get to about 4/5 months you need to start feeding with food, or they drink milk 24/7 cause it don't fill them up no more.
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Excellent. Not only does this save animals from suffering but also depopulates by killing the baby.

Veganism is the way of life.
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From the article:

"An 11 month old baby exclusively breastfed by a vegan mother has died and the parents are charged with neglect after an autopsy indicated the baby suffered from deficiencies in vitamin B12 and Vitamin A – both known to be critical to a child’s development.

Vegans have long been advised to take B12 supplements as long term veganism runs the huge risk of serious B12 deficiency as well as other nutrients only found in animal foods such as true Vitamin A. Beta carotene is not true vitamin A nor does it easily convert to adequate amounts of Vitamin A in the body."

[link to www.thehealthyhomeeconomist.com]

Being vegan is not a healthy lifestyle, it is self deprivation. It is also very dangerous for your children, this child died because of it...

Think about the harm you are doing to others when you try and become Vegan.
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what the fuck.....??!!!

one minute theyre pontificating vegetarianism, eating bugs & next minute theyre charging you with a crime for doing it.
political correctness is a doctrine.... fostered by a delusional, illogical minority...... and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media; which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.
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Being vegan is not a healthy lifestyle, it is self deprivation. It is also very dangerous for your children, this child died because of it...

Think about the harm you are doing to others when you try and become Vegan


FAIL.


Being a human being that does not consume the necessary vitamins and minerals for survival is doing harm to yourself and others if you are breast feeding....

eating only meat would've had the same effect on the child, its just as unhealthy- no matter what you need a spectrum of different nutrients.

You can be a healthy vegan, or a healthy meat eater but knowledge of what youre eating and what you need to be eating is essential.

its not about being vegan, its about being ignorant.
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Excellent. Not only does this save animals from suffering but also depopulates by killing the baby.

Veganism is the way of life.
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Fuck the animals and you too dot.
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Sometimes babies die, why do we have to blame someone?
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because the baby had significant vitamin deficiencies caused by untreated deficiency in the mother and the mothers choice to solely breast feed until 11 /12
these deficiences caused the child to be unhealthy

it probably got some minor illness and was overwhelmed because of it's malmourished state

in not weaning the infant at the appropriate time ie 5-6/12 and in her own malnourished breast milk- she malnourished her child

it could have been healthier and maybe not died if the mother had not been ignorant of the nutritional needs of herself and her infant

there is no excuse - postnatal advice is free ,baby checks are free , every test is free - she would have been entitled to free prescriptions of supplements and anything prescribed for the infant in terms of supplements would have been free

this is awful
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Sometimes babies die, why do we have to blame someone?
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We are omnivores not herbivores, unless you have a Masters in nutrition you most likely won't get the proper nutrition from a vegetarian diet.
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Another retarded comment...

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*Update: The vegan parents whose baby died as described in this article were convicted by a French court to 5 years in prison due to the imbalanced vegan diet the mother ate which led to nutrient poor breastmilk and a failure to thrive child who eventually fell ill from severe nutrient deficiency and died without the parents ever seeking proper medical attention.

Serves them right!
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Not true. The Inuit eat a 100% animal diet. Anthropologists living among them have eaten the same diet over long periods with no ill effects so it isn't just a genetic mutation peculiar to that population. Whole carcass consumption is the key to this way of living. Even just consuming things such as liver and marrow goes a long way towards meeting human dietary needs.
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These people deserve jail. They murdered their baby in the name of a cause.
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Sometimes babies die, why do we have to blame someone?
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because the baby had significant vitamin deficiencies caused by untreated deficiency in the mother and the mothers choice to solely breast feed until 11 /12
these deficiences caused the child to be unhealthy

it probably got some minor illness and was overwhelmed because of it's malmourished state

in not weaning the infant at the appropriate time ie 5-6/12 and in her own malnourished breast milk- she malnourished her child

it could have been healthier and maybe not died if the mother had not been ignorant of the nutritional needs of herself and her infant

there is no excuse - postnatal advice is free ,baby checks are free , every test is free - she would have been entitled to free prescriptions of supplements and anything prescribed for the infant in terms of supplements would have been free

this is awful
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She probably didn't have the mental clarity nor the strength to carry her baby to a doctor...
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I wonder why the baby wasn't eating solids?
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The psychotic vegans were probably against it for vegan reasons.
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NO it is not because they were vegans that the baby died. It is because they were stupid.
Think of all the babies that die. Most of their parents are meat eaters. Is there a correlation? Doubtful. Although people who eat too much meat are pretty stupid too.
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Excellent. Not only does this save animals from suffering but also depopulates by killing the baby.

Veganism is the way of life.
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!@#$%^&* the animals and you too dot.
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You are a meat eating sonofabitch. Fuck you. My post was not abusive.
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Yes it was, you value animals over humans, you are a piece of shit.
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Excellent. Not only does this save animals from suffering but also depopulates by killing the baby.

Veganism is the way of life.
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!@#$%^&* the animals and you too dot.
 Quoting: BRIEF


You are a meat eating sonofabitch. !@#$%^&* you. My post was not abusive.
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Yes it was, you value animals over humans, you are a piece of !@#$%^&*.
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It was just an excellent idea to eliminate neurotics.
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!@#$%^&* the animals and you too dot.
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You are a meat eating sonofabitch. !@#$%^&* you. My post was not abusive.
 Quoting: coderedoc


Yes it was, you value animals over humans, you are a piece of !@#$%^&*.
 Quoting: BRIEF


It was just an excellent idea to eliminate neurotics.
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Here's a suggestion suicide
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From the article:

"An 11 month old baby exclusively breastfed by a vegan mother has died and the parents are charged with neglect after an autopsy indicated the baby suffered from deficiencies in vitamin B12 and Vitamin A – both known to be critical to a child’s development.

Vegans have long been advised to take B12 supplements as long term veganism runs the huge risk of serious B12 deficiency as well as other nutrients only found in animal foods such as true Vitamin A. Beta carotene is not true vitamin A nor does it easily convert to adequate amounts of Vitamin A in the body."

[link to www.thehealthyhomeeconomist.com]

Being vegan is not a healthy lifestyle, it is self deprivation. It is also very dangerous for your children, this child died because of it...

Think about the harm you are doing to others when you try and become Vegan.
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B12 is available everywhere.
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BRIEF you are a fucking tard. Neglecting the acutal issues for you compassionate ravings.





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