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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1551926 United States 07/21/2013 11:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yep we use a system called the arbitrator along with GPS and mobile data systems we also use Motorola's pmdc cad system mobile dispatch as well as avl location systems. Each squad is set up with 6 camera, dash front and rear as well as officer passenger and prisoner all with voice recording. DVr is secured and accessible by supervisor and up. Everything is accessable in real time anywhere via private 4g network contracted with Verizon. When squad pulls into designated areas everything in dumped to internal servers. All shared with with local state and federal agencies. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1551926 ^^^ Dude, think before you write... this is the problem and why people do not trust the police because of you mentality. Peopled should know the truth. Its there to protect not only the officer but also the fool in the backseat. If dumb asses don't know to keep their mouths shut an remain silent in the first place....... Did you even see what I marked on your post? look again. I know what the cameras are for. Hence, never talk to the police, they don't charge you with shit. it's the prosecutor that does, police are just information getters.. but, read what I marked.. Prisoner....so what's your point? Its all recorded! We also have control rooms that monitors 100's of intersection as well as well as overt/covert investigations. Undercover vehical with surveillence gear in it. Mount to any utility pole and bring it back via cellular or broadband. Licence plate regcognition at all intersections. This stuff isn't new. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 42606465 United States 07/21/2013 11:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I joke a lot. I am sorry that this is far more serious to you than to me and you feel the need to attack me because of that. All in good fun. This is an entertainment site not a church. lol I was joking too. Should have left out the period, makes things seem serious. I enjoy your posts btw. Sorry about the misunderstanding Oh good, I didn't want to strip. :) oh no no, i meant you'd be the spectator lol |
houdini User ID: 43263054 United States 07/21/2013 11:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | One of the subsidiary purposes of all this surveillance is to incriminate anyone they want, whenever they want. Say officer so and so feels inclined to speak out against a certain unconstitutional policy. The powers that be (in various chains of command, spanning various government departments) can threaten the officer with condemning information. Who hasn't looked at embarrassing crap online once in their life, or typed something strange on a forum you wouldn't want the public to know about? "Officer Do Good, you may be an upstanding citizen, but we have video of you engaged in a sexy sykpe chat with some random online girl. Do you want your wife and everyone else to know about that little mistake? Looks like we have some audio of you in your patrol car telling another officer how sexy you think some of the female officers are. That sounds like a sexual harassment charge to me" Everyone has dirt, some more than others, and they want all of it. That way if any of us ever act up, they can demonize us back to pre-school. Especially this younger generation that is being raise electronically. houdini |
Just Some Guy User ID: 38213482 United States 07/21/2013 11:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Interesting. Yes, it will definitely keep the cops on the up and up. But, in less than ten years will this be standard equipment in all vehicles, and in all workplaces? Probably. Then take it step further. Cameras and microphones in our cables boxes? Just like in Orwell's 1984. Of course, it will be for our own protection. |
4thhorseman User ID: 30859703 United States 07/21/2013 11:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: 4thhorseman ^^^ Dude, think before you write... this is the problem and why people do not trust the police because of you mentality. Peopled should know the truth. Its there to protect not only the officer but also the fool in the backseat. If dumb asses don't know to keep their mouths shut an remain silent in the first place....... Did you even see what I marked on your post? look again. I know what the cameras are for. Hence, never talk to the police, they don't charge you with shit. it's the prosecutor that does, police are just information getters.. but, read what I marked.. Prisoner....so what's your point? Its all recorded! We also have control rooms that monitors 100's of intersection as well as well as overt/covert investigations. Undercover vehical with surveillence gear in it. Mount to any utility pole and bring it back via cellular or broadband. Licence plate regcognition at all intersections. This stuff isn't new. We are the people and are innocent until proven guilt by a jury of our peers. You don't even understand your own mentality. You /LEO are the employees and need to respect us to the end. WE are not prisoners . Read through this thread and see what else I posted and how you break you oath every day you step in to your unit and go to work. WAKE UP.. SICSEMPERTYRANIS Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum Vi veri universum vivus vici "There is nothing more deceptive than an obvious fact". Arthur Conan Doyle "Once you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, no matter how improbable, must be the truth". Arthur Conan Doyle MOLON LABE [link to www.usavsus.info] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 37509518 United States 07/21/2013 11:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'll bet we could cause the "recorders" of all this info some real headaches in a few simple ways. Mind you these wouldn't "defeat" the data recording, but it would throw a wrench into the gears. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37926108 1. we all start speaking/typing pig-latin. 2. for facial recognition, we start a trend of wearing the plastic glasses & big nose. 3. License plates? We start parking on our neighbors driveway & they in ours. Park at the laundromat & walk across the street to mcdonalds. This surveilance is all about metadata. AFTER the fact, they can go back and establish everything about you, NOT before. If they aren't tracking your car and license plate, they're tracking your cell phone. They have the RFID in your shorts or shoes, or a drone has been surveiling you. Pure and simple, the govt is at war with the people. |
4thhorseman User ID: 30859703 United States 07/21/2013 11:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Interesting. Quoting: Just Some Guy Yes, it will definitely keep the cops on the up and up. But, in less than ten years will this be standard equipment in all vehicles, and in all workplaces? Probably. Then take it step further. Cameras and microphones in our cables boxes? I believe this are already in the works.. Just like in Orwell's 1984. Of course, it will be for our own protection. SICSEMPERTYRANIS Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum Vi veri universum vivus vici "There is nothing more deceptive than an obvious fact". Arthur Conan Doyle "Once you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, no matter how improbable, must be the truth". Arthur Conan Doyle MOLON LABE [link to www.usavsus.info] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1551926 United States 07/21/2013 11:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
IDW User ID: 43766312 United States 07/21/2013 11:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The real truth is, that you feel threatened when you see a cop car behind you. This is definitely true, and has always been since I was a kid in the 60's. One good thing about the cameras is the cops can't get away with being criminals any more , so maybe we are being bit stupid here. I do not LIKE the idea of never having any privacy or anonymity any more, but I often wonder if we would all be better off if we could prove we were innocent of false allegations of criminal activity WITh A VIDEO RECORD OF OUR ACTIVITIES 24/7. I remember an episode of star trek (original series) where it was revealed that cameras recorded the activities of everyone, at all times, and it was impossible to commit crimes without there being a record of it. I am fine with that idea.It may be what we need to make sure real criminals are kept seperate from society and to keep innocent people from being oppressed. I have been outspoken against all manner of oppression and conspiracy in government, and if the cameras are turned on me as well as them then I am all for it, SO LONG AS ThE INFORMATION IS BEING USED TO PROSECUTE ALL CRIMINALS GOVERNMENT AND CIVILIAN. Think about it for awhile before you flame me. If you're not a scumbag or a criminal why would you care if your activities are recorded? I think the human race has outgrown bashfulness, personally. |
WindyMind User ID: 7244814 United States 07/21/2013 11:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: WindyMind I joke a lot. I am sorry that this is far more serious to you than to me and you feel the need to attack me because of that. All in good fun. This is an entertainment site not a church. lol I was joking too. Should have left out the period, makes things seem serious. I enjoy your posts btw. Sorry about the misunderstanding Oh good, I didn't want to strip. :) oh no no, i meant you'd be the spectator lol lol, it sure doesn't read like that. |
Relativity User ID: 1533848 United States 07/21/2013 11:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Serves you right! This new spawn of Dicktator cops needs to be watched every second. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39168193 I used to really respect the police, now, I fear them because they are out of control!!!!! He's giving us good intel. The cops know about the mics, The "Civies" don't. Guess how many peeps are spiling their guts in the back of the squad car? He's doing us a favor. THINK ABOUT IT. Very true, don't say SHIT in the back of a patrol car....unless you want to go to jail?? Look up between the bars and the roof...CHEESE.. “In finding balance between lies and trust there will never be a better source than to speak your truth or make your peace some other way.” ~Sully Erna Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgment. For even the very wise cannot see all ends. -Gandalph "A fool thinks himself to be wise, but a wise man knows himself to be a fool." - William Shakespeare |
Just Some Guy User ID: 38213482 United States 07/21/2013 11:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The real truth is, that you feel threatened when you see a cop car behind you. This is definitely true, and has always been since I was a kid in the 60's. One good thing about the cameras is the cops can't get away with being criminals any more , so maybe we are being bit stupid here. I do not LIKE the idea of never having any privacy or anonymity any more, but I often wonder if we would all be better off if we could prove we were innocent of false allegations of criminal activity WITh A VIDEO RECORD OF OUR ACTIVITIES 24/7. I remember an episode of star trek (original series) where it was revealed that cameras recorded the activities of everyone, at all times, and it was impossible to commit crimes without there being a record of it. I am fine with that idea.It may be what we need to make sure real criminals are kept seperate from society and to keep innocent people from being oppressed. I have been outspoken against all manner of oppression and conspiracy in government, and if the cameras are turned on me as well as them then I am all for it, SO LONG AS ThE INFORMATION IS BEING USED TO PROSECUTE ALL CRIMINALS GOVERNMENT AND CIVILIAN. Think about it for awhile before you flame me. If you're not a scumbag or a criminal why would you care if your activities are recorded? I think the human race has outgrown bashfulness, personally. So, according to your Star Trek story, you'd be OK with every shit you took being recorded, and every time you beat your meat being recorded? That's just creepy. Last Edited by Just Some Guy on 07/21/2013 11:35 PM |
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GunnyJoe User ID: 11837226 United States 07/21/2013 11:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | One of the subsidiary purposes of all this surveillance is to incriminate anyone they want, whenever they want. Say officer so and so feels inclined to speak out against a certain unconstitutional policy. The powers that be (in various chains of command, spanning various government departments) can threaten the officer with condemning information. Who hasn't looked at embarrassing crap online once in their life, or typed something strange on a forum you wouldn't want the public to know about? "Officer Do Good, you may be an upstanding citizen, but we have video of you engaged in a sexy sykpe chat with some random online girl. Do you want your wife and everyone else to know about that little mistake? Looks like we have some audio of you in your patrol car telling another officer how sexy you think some of the female officers are. That sounds like a sexual harassment charge to me" Everyone has dirt, some more than others, and they want all of it. That way if any of us ever act up, they can demonize us back to pre-school. Especially this younger generation that is being raise electronically. Quoting: houdini " It`s only weird the first time" ;p |
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IDW User ID: 43766312 United States 07/21/2013 11:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The real truth is, that you feel threatened when you see a cop car behind you. This is definitely true, and has always been since I was a kid in the 60's. One good thing about the cameras is the cops can't get away with being criminals any more , so maybe we are being bit stupid here. I do not LIKE the idea of never having any privacy or anonymity any more, but I often wonder if we would all be better off if we could prove we were innocent of false allegations of criminal activity WITh A VIDEO RECORD OF OUR ACTIVITIES 24/7. I remember an episode of star trek (original series) where it was revealed that cameras recorded the activities of everyone, at all times, and it was impossible to commit crimes without there being a record of it. I am fine with that idea.It may be what we need to make sure real criminals are kept seperate from society and to keep innocent people from being oppressed. I have been outspoken against all manner of oppression and conspiracy in government, and if the cameras are turned on me as well as them then I am all for it, SO LONG AS ThE INFORMATION IS BEING USED TO PROSECUTE ALL CRIMINALS GOVERNMENT AND CIVILIAN. Think about it for awhile before you flame me. If you're not a scumbag or a criminal why would you care if your activities are recorded? I think the human race has outgrown bashfulness, personally. So, according to your Star Trek story, you'd be OK with every shit you took being recorded, and every time you beat your meat being recorded? That's just creepy. Yea, I am. It isn't like I would stand out because I took a crap. I don't think anyone would care. The recording would be only to stop criminal activity. Last time I looked, shitting and jacking off weren't crimes and everyone else does it too |
4thhorseman User ID: 30859703 United States 07/21/2013 11:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | One of the subsidiary purposes of all this surveillance is to incriminate anyone they want, whenever they want. Say officer so and so feels inclined to speak out against a certain unconstitutional policy. The powers that be (in various chains of command, spanning various government departments) can threaten the officer with condemning information. Who hasn't looked at embarrassing crap online once in their life, or typed something strange on a forum you wouldn't want the public to know about? "Officer Do Good, you may be an upstanding citizen, but we have video of you engaged in a sexy sykpe chat with some random online girl. Do you want your wife and everyone else to know about that little mistake? Looks like we have some audio of you in your patrol car telling another officer how sexy you think some of the female officers are. That sounds like a sexual harassment charge to me" Everyone has dirt, some more than others, and they want all of it. That way if any of us ever act up, they can demonize us back to pre-school. Especially this younger generation that is being raise electronically. Quoting: houdini Perfect way to put it Houdini!! Last Edited by 4thhorseman on 07/21/2013 11:39 PM SICSEMPERTYRANIS Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum Vi veri universum vivus vici "There is nothing more deceptive than an obvious fact". Arthur Conan Doyle "Once you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, no matter how improbable, must be the truth". Arthur Conan Doyle MOLON LABE [link to www.usavsus.info] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1551926 United States 07/21/2013 11:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1551926 Peopled should know the truth. Its there to protect not only the officer but also the fool in the backseat. If dumb asses don't know to keep their mouths shut an remain silent in the first place....... Did you even see what I marked on your post? look again. I know what the cameras are for. Hence, never talk to the police, they don't charge you with shit. it's the prosecutor that does, police are just information getters.. but, read what I marked.. Prisoner....so what's your point? Its all recorded! We also have control rooms that monitors 100's of intersection as well as well as overt/covert investigations. Undercover vehical with surveillence gear in it. Mount to any utility pole and bring it back via cellular or broadband. Licence plate regcognition at all intersections. This stuff isn't new. We are the people and are innocent until proven guilt by a jury of our peers. You don't even understand your own mentality. You /LEO are the employees and need to respect us to the end. WE are not prisoners . Read through this thread and see what else I posted and how you break you oath every day you step in to your unit and go to work. WAKE UP.. Sigh....innocence or guilt will be decided by the judge or jury. The arrest is a whole different ball game. LEO is neither. Now your rights that's is all. |
4thhorseman User ID: 30859703 United States 07/21/2013 11:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: 4thhorseman Did you even see what I marked on your post? look again. I know what the cameras are for. Hence, never talk to the police, they don't charge you with shit. it's the prosecutor that does, police are just information getters.. but, read what I marked.. Prisoner....so what's your point? Its all recorded! We also have control rooms that monitors 100's of intersection as well as well as overt/covert investigations. Undercover vehical with surveillence gear in it. Mount to any utility pole and bring it back via cellular or broadband. Licence plate regcognition at all intersections. This stuff isn't new. We are the people and are innocent until proven guilt by a jury of our peers. You don't even understand your own mentality. You /LEO are the employees and need to respect us to the end. WE are not prisoners . Read through this thread and see what else I posted and how you break you oath every day you step in to your unit and go to work. WAKE UP.. Sigh....innocence or guilt will be decided by the judge or jury. The arrest is a whole different ball game. LEO is neither. Now your rights that's is all. Are you LEO? SICSEMPERTYRANIS Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum Vi veri universum vivus vici "There is nothing more deceptive than an obvious fact". Arthur Conan Doyle "Once you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, no matter how improbable, must be the truth". Arthur Conan Doyle MOLON LABE [link to www.usavsus.info] |
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Just Some Guy User ID: 38213482 United States 07/21/2013 11:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43755940 The real truth is, that you feel threatened when you see a cop car behind you. This is definitely true, and has always been since I was a kid in the 60's. One good thing about the cameras is the cops can't get away with being criminals any more , so maybe we are being bit stupid here. I do not LIKE the idea of never having any privacy or anonymity any more, but I often wonder if we would all be better off if we could prove we were innocent of false allegations of criminal activity WITh A VIDEO RECORD OF OUR ACTIVITIES 24/7. I remember an episode of star trek (original series) where it was revealed that cameras recorded the activities of everyone, at all times, and it was impossible to commit crimes without there being a record of it. I am fine with that idea.It may be what we need to make sure real criminals are kept seperate from society and to keep innocent people from being oppressed. I have been outspoken against all manner of oppression and conspiracy in government, and if the cameras are turned on me as well as them then I am all for it, SO LONG AS ThE INFORMATION IS BEING USED TO PROSECUTE ALL CRIMINALS GOVERNMENT AND CIVILIAN. Think about it for awhile before you flame me. If you're not a scumbag or a criminal why would you care if your activities are recorded? I think the human race has outgrown bashfulness, personally. So, according to your Star Trek story, you'd be OK with every shit you took being recorded, and every time you beat your meat being recorded? That's just creepy. Yea, I am. It isn't like I would stand out because I took a crap. I don't think anyone would care. The recording would be only to stop criminal activity. Last time I looked, shitting and jacking off weren't crimes and everyone else does it too Bah! You are the definition of sheeple. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1551926 United States 07/21/2013 11:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1551926 Prisoner....so what's your point? Its all recorded! We also have control rooms that monitors 100's of intersection as well as well as overt/covert investigations. Undercover vehical with surveillence gear in it. Mount to any utility pole and bring it back via cellular or broadband. Licence plate regcognition at all intersections. This stuff isn't new. We are the people and are innocent until proven guilt by a jury of our peers. You don't even understand your own mentality. You /LEO are the employees and need to respect us to the end. WE are not prisoners . Read through this thread and see what else I posted and how you break you oath every day you step in to your unit and go to work. WAKE UP.. Sigh....innocence or guilt will be decided by the judge or jury. The arrest is a whole different ball game. LEO is neither. Now your rights that's is all. Are you LEO? Civilian in a LEO world. |
WindyMind User ID: 7244814 United States 07/21/2013 11:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: 4thhorseman Did you even see what I marked on your post? look again. I know what the cameras are for. Hence, never talk to the police, they don't charge you with shit. it's the prosecutor that does, police are just information getters.. but, read what I marked.. Prisoner....so what's your point? Its all recorded! We also have control rooms that monitors 100's of intersection as well as well as overt/covert investigations. Undercover vehical with surveillence gear in it. Mount to any utility pole and bring it back via cellular or broadband. Licence plate regcognition at all intersections. This stuff isn't new. We are the people and are innocent until proven guilt by a jury of our peers. You don't even understand your own mentality. You /LEO are the employees and need to respect us to the end. WE are not prisoners . Read through this thread and see what else I posted and how you break you oath every day you step in to your unit and go to work. WAKE UP.. Sigh....innocence or guilt will be decided by the judge or jury. The arrest is a whole different ball game. LEO is neither. Now your rights that's is all. It seems innocence or guilt is decided by what evidence a jury is allowed to see. Certain types of pleas negate certain types of evidence being entered in court. A jury that would convict is likely to be a jury that is allowed all evidence but like I said you don't have to allow all evidence if you are the judge depending on the plea. |
IDW User ID: 43766312 United States 07/21/2013 11:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The primary and probably only reason people desire to have privacy is so that they can do things they know are wrong or are embarrassed to do. I am not advocating tat anyone be allowed to arbitrarily monitor all of our activities and watch us just to get their rocks off, that itself would need to be a crime. Don't get the idea tat I think this teleology is a good idea with the criminals now running our government in possession of it, I DON"T BUT, in the case of a criminal allegation, the persons activates being recorded would protect the innocent and insure the guilty were convicted. This is where we are now anyway practically. You think you're doing things no one else could possibly know about, but let me assure you I happen to know you are wrong. |
IDW User ID: 43766312 United States 07/21/2013 11:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: IDW 43766312 This is definitely true, and has always been since I was a kid in the 60's. One good thing about the cameras is the cops can't get away with being criminals any more , so maybe we are being bit stupid here. I do not LIKE the idea of never having any privacy or anonymity any more, but I often wonder if we would all be better off if we could prove we were innocent of false allegations of criminal activity WITh A VIDEO RECORD OF OUR ACTIVITIES 24/7. I remember an episode of star trek (original series) where it was revealed that cameras recorded the activities of everyone, at all times, and it was impossible to commit crimes without there being a record of it. I am fine with that idea.It may be what we need to make sure real criminals are kept seperate from society and to keep innocent people from being oppressed. I have been outspoken against all manner of oppression and conspiracy in government, and if the cameras are turned on me as well as them then I am all for it, SO LONG AS ThE INFORMATION IS BEING USED TO PROSECUTE ALL CRIMINALS GOVERNMENT AND CIVILIAN. Think about it for awhile before you flame me. If you're not a scumbag or a criminal why would you care if your activities are recorded? I think the human race has outgrown bashfulness, personally. So, according to your Star Trek story, you'd be OK with every shit you took being recorded, and every time you beat your meat being recorded? That's just creepy. Yea, I am. It isn't like I would stand out because I took a crap. I don't think anyone would care. The recording would be only to stop criminal activity. Last time I looked, shitting and jacking off weren't crimes and everyone else does it too Bah! You are the definition of sheeple. Not exactly. If what I proposed was made law, the government would have about two people left in it. The rest would be pounding rocks. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 10401141 United States 07/21/2013 11:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'll feel bad for you when the average citizen is no longer surveilled constantly. When police departments no longer collect data from every traffic camera to trace where my licence plate is at every moment. I don't like a big brother society, but when big brother gets a taste of his own medicine it's hard to get too riled up. |
4thhorseman User ID: 30859703 United States 07/21/2013 11:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1551926 Prisoner....so what's your point? Its all recorded! We also have control rooms that monitors 100's of intersection as well as well as overt/covert investigations. Undercover vehical with surveillence gear in it. Mount to any utility pole and bring it back via cellular or broadband. Licence plate regcognition at all intersections. This stuff isn't new. We are the people and are innocent until proven guilt by a jury of our peers. You don't even understand your own mentality. You /LEO are the employees and need to respect us to the end. WE are not prisoners . Read through this thread and see what else I posted and how you break you oath every day you step in to your unit and go to work. WAKE UP.. Sigh....innocence or guilt will be decided by the judge or jury. The arrest is a whole different ball game. LEO is neither. Now your rights that's is all. It seems innocence or guilt is decided by what evidence a jury is allowed to see. Certain types of pleas negate certain types of evidence being entered in court. A jury that would convict is likely to be a jury that is allowed all evidence but like I said you don't have to allow all evidence if you are the judge depending on the plea. Right Windy. the judge has no say so on Innocent or guilty. and no the arrest isn't once they apprehend the person, then it should be respected for the arrested until infront of the Jury. but, let me say this again. Statues, acts and codes are not law. presumption of a infraction is not a crime( read a ticket), fining someone for an infraction is unconstitutional, the LEO, Courts and all others use brut force to make you comply. they are going against the constitution and the rulings of the Supreme Court of the USA. Again S,A and C, fall under UCC and are not law. Study a little then you might be able to inform you LEO friends/family that they break their oath every day. Last Edited by 4thhorseman on 07/21/2013 11:55 PM SICSEMPERTYRANIS Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum Vi veri universum vivus vici "There is nothing more deceptive than an obvious fact". Arthur Conan Doyle "Once you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, no matter how improbable, must be the truth". Arthur Conan Doyle MOLON LABE [link to www.usavsus.info] |
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WindyMind User ID: 7244814 United States 07/22/2013 12:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: 4thhorseman We are the people and are innocent until proven guilt by a jury of our peers. You don't even understand your own mentality. You /LEO are the employees and need to respect us to the end. WE are not prisoners . Read through this thread and see what else I posted and how you break you oath every day you step in to your unit and go to work. WAKE UP.. Sigh....innocence or guilt will be decided by the judge or jury. The arrest is a whole different ball game. LEO is neither. Now your rights that's is all. It seems innocence or guilt is decided by what evidence a jury is allowed to see. Certain types of pleas negate certain types of evidence being entered in court. A jury that would convict is likely to be a jury that is allowed all evidence but like I said you don't have to allow all evidence if you are the judge depending on the plea. Right Windy. the judge has no say so on Innocent or guilty. and no the arrest isn't once they apprehend the person, then it should be respected for the arrested until infront of the Jury. but, let me say this again. Statues, acts and codes are not law. presumption of a infraction is not a crime( read a ticket), fining someone for an infraction is unconstitutional, the LEO, Courts and all others use brut force to make you comply. they are going against the constitution and the rulings of the Supreme Court of the USA. Again S,A and C, fall under UCC and are not law. Study a little then you might be able to inform you LEO friends/family that they break their oath every day. I have no idea what you are talking about. LEO? This is the last minute of my dads' birthday right now and are you talking astrology? lol |
4thhorseman User ID: 30859703 United States 07/22/2013 12:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1551926 Sigh....innocence or guilt will be decided by the judge or jury. The arrest is a whole different ball game. LEO is neither. Now your rights that's is all. It seems innocence or guilt is decided by what evidence a jury is allowed to see. Certain types of pleas negate certain types of evidence being entered in court. A jury that would convict is likely to be a jury that is allowed all evidence but like I said you don't have to allow all evidence if you are the judge depending on the plea. Right Windy. the judge has no say so on Innocent or guilty. and no the arrest isn't once they apprehend the person, then it should be respected for the arrested until infront of the Jury. but, let me say this again. Statues, acts and codes are not law. presumption of a infraction is not a crime( read a ticket), fining someone for an infraction is unconstitutional, the LEO, Courts and all others use brut force to make you comply. they are going against the constitution and the rulings of the Supreme Court of the USA. Again S,A and C, fall under UCC and are not law. Study a little then you might be able to inform you LEO friends/family that they break their oath every day. I have no idea what you are talking about. LEO? This is the last minute of my dads' birthday right now and are you talking astrology? lol LEO= Law Enforcement Officer.. and that post was really to the AC-926 you quoted on.. Last Edited by 4thhorseman on 07/22/2013 12:09 AM SICSEMPERTYRANIS Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum Vi veri universum vivus vici "There is nothing more deceptive than an obvious fact". Arthur Conan Doyle "Once you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, no matter how improbable, must be the truth". Arthur Conan Doyle MOLON LABE [link to www.usavsus.info] |