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Why do people think atheists don't have morals? | |
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| KimmieAnnaJones User ID: 35744535 United States07/27/2013 01:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why are those things wrong? "Holy, holy, holy is the Lord God Almighty, who was, and is, and is to come." - I AM Vote for people that have a track record for loving your Constitution or lose your country forever!!! Put down the damn touchy feely koolaid and WAKE THE FUCK UP!!!! :militia: |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 4938796 United States07/27/2013 01:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Atheists don't have morals. They just behave the way society dictates to avoid trouble. Quoting: Sikhed No, they just don't need an imaginary father in the clouds telling them how to think, feel and act. Some people don't need crutches. As an agnostic I follow my heart, because spirit is within you. You do what is right from your heart. Sorry you are too closed minded to figure this out. |
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| KimmieAnnaJones User ID: 35744535 United States07/27/2013 01:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Atheists don't have morals. They just behave the way society dictates to avoid trouble. Quoting: Sikhed No, they just don't need an imaginary father in the clouds telling them how to think, feel and act. Some people don't need crutches. As an agnostic I follow my heart, because spirit is within you. You do what is right from your heart. Sorry you are too closed minded to figure this out. This would have been my answer to my question as well. But as an Atheist, you do not believe or feel spirit in your heart, right? So then, how does that person judge murder and stealing as wrong? "Holy, holy, holy is the Lord God Almighty, who was, and is, and is to come." - I AM Vote for people that have a track record for loving your Constitution or lose your country forever!!! Put down the damn touchy feely koolaid and WAKE THE FUCK UP!!!! :militia: |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1222180 United States07/27/2013 01:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I believe that there is no such thing as a supreme being that created the universe. I am open to that possibility should someone provide proof. However... Quoting: Radiki Just because I don't believe in God, doesn't mean i don't have morals. I think murder is wrong. I think stealing is wrong. I think abortion is wrong. In fact, I would say that I have a pretty sound moral set and I don't need God to tell me so. Priests are molesting young children, Christian presidents start unjustified wars, Muslim terrorists kills thousands in bombings and use women and children as shields. I don't need a book to tell me that all of that is wrong. Why do religious people group atheists into some scary stereotype when there is evil in every walk of life and in every creed. What you call your morals, is actually your conscience, placed within your soul by God. If there really were no Supreme Being, no morals, etc. EVERY person would simply do what is in their OWN best interest. No one would sacrifice their life to save someone else, because we would all be SELFISH, to preserve our continued existence. Stealing would be considered normal, because if you want something you don't have, you just steal it from someone who does have what you want. In America, this " ultimate selfishness ", occurs in only very few places now, such as heavily Black inner cities. Someone insults you, you murder him, no big deal. Ultimate selfishness. |
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| Radiki (OP) User ID: 34360379 United States07/27/2013 01:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I believe that there is no such thing as a supreme being that created the universe. I am open to that possibility should someone provide proof. However... Quoting: Radiki Just because I don't believe in God, doesn't mean i don't have morals. I think murder is wrong. I think stealing is wrong. I think abortion is wrong. In fact, I would say that I have a pretty sound moral set and I don't need God to tell me so. Priests are molesting young children, Christian presidents start unjustified wars, Muslim terrorists kills thousands in bombings and use women and children as shields. I don't need a book to tell me that all of that is wrong. Why do religious people group atheists into some scary stereotype when there is evil in every walk of life and in every creed. What you call your morals, is actually your conscience, placed within your soul by God. If there really were no Supreme Being, no morals, etc. EVERY person would simply do what is in their OWN best interest. No one would sacrifice their life to save someone else, because we would all be SELFISH, to preserve our continued existence. Stealing would be considered normal, because if you want something you don't have, you just steal it from someone who does have what you want. In America, this " ultimate selfishness ", occurs in only very few places now, such as heavily Black inner cities. Someone insults you, you murder him, no big deal. Ultimate selfishness. That is not true. I would sacrifice my life for family. because I would do anything required to protect my family. But that can be an alpha response developed through evolution, not a soul implanted by an imaginary being. Why does a school of dolphins coral and protect their children when a shark is near? Do Dolphins have souls too? Humans create great things working together. selfishness and other negative traits would restrict that collaboration. Are you seriously telling me that the only reason you don't kill people is because you read not to in a book? Radiki |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 44140621 United States07/27/2013 02:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So, copied my user name and changed one letter. Then started a thread to attack my beliefs? That is very noble of you. Let me guess, you are a God-fearing person and you feel that coming after me with lies and deception is God's will? Thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven. |
| Radiki (OP) User ID: 34360379 United States07/27/2013 02:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So, copied my user name and changed one letter. Then started a thread to attack my beliefs? That is very noble of you. Let me guess, you are a God-fearing person and you feel that coming after me with lies and deception is God's will? Thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven. So God is a troll? Radiki |
| Rockarchy User ID: 43116317 United States07/27/2013 02:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I believe that there is no such thing as a supreme being that created the universe. I am open to that possibility should someone provide proof. However... Quoting: Radiki Just because I don't believe in God, doesn't mean i don't have morals. I think murder is wrong. I think stealing is wrong. I think abortion is wrong. In fact, I would say that I have a pretty sound moral set and I don't need God to tell me so. Priests are molesting young children, Christian presidents start unjustified wars, Muslim terrorists kills thousands in bombings and use women and children as shields. I don't need a book to tell me that all of that is wrong. Why do religious people group atheists into some scary stereotype when there is evil in every walk of life and in every creed. What you call your morals, is actually your conscience, placed within your soul by God. If there really were no Supreme Being, no morals, etc. EVERY person would simply do what is in their OWN best interest. No one would sacrifice their life to save someone else, because we would all be SELFISH, to preserve our continued existence. Stealing would be considered normal, because if you want something you don't have, you just steal it from someone who does have what you want. In America, this " ultimate selfishness ", occurs in only very few places now, such as heavily Black inner cities. Someone insults you, you murder him, no big deal. Ultimate selfishness. That very first sentence made you lose all of your credibility. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1222180 United States07/27/2013 02:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I believe that there is no such thing as a supreme being that created the universe. I am open to that possibility should someone provide proof. However... Quoting: Radiki Just because I don't believe in God, doesn't mean i don't have morals. I think murder is wrong. I think stealing is wrong. I think abortion is wrong. In fact, I would say that I have a pretty sound moral set and I don't need God to tell me so. Priests are molesting young children, Christian presidents start unjustified wars, Muslim terrorists kills thousands in bombings and use women and children as shields. I don't need a book to tell me that all of that is wrong. Why do religious people group atheists into some scary stereotype when there is evil in every walk of life and in every creed. What you call your morals, is actually your conscience, placed within your soul by God. If there really were no Supreme Being, no morals, etc. EVERY person would simply do what is in their OWN best interest. No one would sacrifice their life to save someone else, because we would all be SELFISH, to preserve our continued existence. Stealing would be considered normal, because if you want something you don't have, you just steal it from someone who does have what you want. In America, this " ultimate selfishness ", occurs in only very few places now, such as heavily Black inner cities. Someone insults you, you murder him, no big deal. Ultimate selfishness. That is not true. I would sacrifice my life for family. because I would do anything required to protect my family. But that can be an alpha response developed through evolution, not a soul implanted by an imaginary being. Why does a school of dolphins coral and protect their children when a shark is near? Do Dolphins have souls too? Humans create great things working together. selfishness and other negative traits would restrict that collaboration. Are you seriously telling me that the only reason you don't kill people is because you read not to in a book? You only say you would sacrifice your life to save your family ( so would I by the way ), BECAUSE you have a God-give conscience, you don't seem to realize that. MY hypothetical is that if there REALLY were no God, no afterlife, etc. you would ALWAYS base your decisions on self-preservation. If you are in the forest, a black bear may eat you because he's hungry ( self-interest ). He has NO remorse for doing this, he doesn't care how devastated your family will be at hearing of your death. It is because a black bear has NO conscience ( no soul ) that he does not seem to know or care about "moral conduct", or YOUR right to life. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 44131339  Germany07/27/2013 02:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | But as an Atheist, you do not believe or feel spirit in your heart, right? Quoting: KimmieAnnaJones So then, how does that person judge murder and stealing as wrong? It has nothing to do with religion. It's all about empathy. An empathic person feels guilt and shame regardless of religion. A person without empathy can be very religious but completely ruthless at the same time. |
| Radiki (OP) User ID: 34360379 United States07/27/2013 02:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I believe that there is no such thing as a supreme being that created the universe. I am open to that possibility should someone provide proof. However... Quoting: Radiki Just because I don't believe in God, doesn't mean i don't have morals. I think murder is wrong. I think stealing is wrong. I think abortion is wrong. In fact, I would say that I have a pretty sound moral set and I don't need God to tell me so. Priests are molesting young children, Christian presidents start unjustified wars, Muslim terrorists kills thousands in bombings and use women and children as shields. I don't need a book to tell me that all of that is wrong. Why do religious people group atheists into some scary stereotype when there is evil in every walk of life and in every creed. What you call your morals, is actually your conscience, placed within your soul by God. If there really were no Supreme Being, no morals, etc. EVERY person would simply do what is in their OWN best interest. No one would sacrifice their life to save someone else, because we would all be SELFISH, to preserve our continued existence. Stealing would be considered normal, because if you want something you don't have, you just steal it from someone who does have what you want. In America, this " ultimate selfishness ", occurs in only very few places now, such as heavily Black inner cities. Someone insults you, you murder him, no big deal. Ultimate selfishness. That is not true. I would sacrifice my life for family. because I would do anything required to protect my family. But that can be an alpha response developed through evolution, not a soul implanted by an imaginary being. Why does a school of dolphins coral and protect their children when a shark is near? Do Dolphins have souls too? Humans create great things working together. selfishness and other negative traits would restrict that collaboration. Are you seriously telling me that the only reason you don't kill people is because you read not to in a book? You only say you would sacrifice your life to save your family ( so would I by the way ), BECAUSE you have a God-give conscience, you don't seem to realize that. MY hypothetical is that if there REALLY were no God, no afterlife, etc. you would ALWAYS base your decisions on self-preservation. If you are in the forest, a black bear may eat you because he's hungry ( self-interest ). He has NO remorse for doing this, he doesn't care how devastated your family will be at hearing of your death. It is because a black bear has NO conscience ( no soul ) that he does not seem to know or care about "moral conduct", or YOUR right to life. I would eat a bear if I was hungry to. They taste good. So does deer, and cow and many other animals. But many animals exhibit traits that are not in the interest of self preservation. So this defeats your theory. Dolphins, monkeys, BEARS, many large cats, and many others, will defend their young if the young are threatened. Of course not all animals do this, but because some do, your self interest theory either isn't valid or those animals have a conscience. Radiki |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 26795689 United States07/27/2013 02:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I believe that there is no such thing as a supreme being that created the universe. I am open to that possibility should someone provide proof. However... Quoting: Radiki Just because I don't believe in God, doesn't mean i don't have morals. I think murder is wrong. I think stealing is wrong. I think abortion is wrong. In fact, I would say that I have a pretty sound moral set and I don't need God to tell me so. Priests are molesting young children, Christian presidents start unjustified wars, Muslim terrorists kills thousands in bombings and use women and children as shields. I don't need a book to tell me that all of that is wrong. Why do religious people group atheists into some scary stereotype when there is evil in every walk of life and in every creed. Creating two threads with conflicting proclamations? Thread: Why don't atheists have morals?  |
| Radiki (OP) User ID: 34360379 United States07/27/2013 02:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I believe that there is no such thing as a supreme being that created the universe. I am open to that possibility should someone provide proof. However... Quoting: Radiki Just because I don't believe in God, doesn't mean i don't have morals. I think murder is wrong. I think stealing is wrong. I think abortion is wrong. In fact, I would say that I have a pretty sound moral set and I don't need God to tell me so. Priests are molesting young children, Christian presidents start unjustified wars, Muslim terrorists kills thousands in bombings and use women and children as shields. I don't need a book to tell me that all of that is wrong. Why do religious people group atheists into some scary stereotype when there is evil in every walk of life and in every creed. Creating two threads with conflicting proclamations? Thread: Why don't atheists have morals? Read this thread and you will see that the local trolls are at work. They can't come here and debate or comment in a logical fashion so they create a similar user name and pretend to be me.... Double check the names. Radiki |
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| Rockarchy User ID: 43116317 United States07/27/2013 02:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You only say you would sacrifice your life to save your family ( so would I by the way ), BECAUSE you have a God-give conscience, you don't seem to realize that. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1222180 MY hypothetical is that if there REALLY were no God, no afterlife, etc. you would ALWAYS base your decisions on self-preservation. If you are in the forest, a black bear may eat you because he's hungry ( self-interest ). He has NO remorse for doing this, he doesn't care how devastated your family will be at hearing of your death. It is because a black bear has NO conscience ( no soul ) that he does not seem to know or care about "moral conduct", or YOUR right to life. With no morals and only thinking about self-preservation it sounds like you must think Atheists are psychopaths? Your 'god-given conscience' doesn't come from god at all, but from the part of the brain that deals with 'empathy.' You learn at an extremely young age not to go out and hurt people because you see how they feel -- and you don't want to experience that pain in return. And sorry to say it but, religious, atheist, agnostic, or even fucking scientologists have empathy in their brain, and if all religion was wiped from this planet, I'd think we'd get along pretty fine. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 44016353 United Kingdom07/27/2013 02:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "Women identifying themselves as Protestants obtain 37.4% of all abortions in the U.S.; Catholic women account for 31.3%, Jewish women account for 1.3%, and women with no religious affiliation obtain 23.7% of all abortions. 18% of all abortions are performed on women who identify themselves as "Born-again/Evangelical"." [link to www.antiochian.org] Statistically speaking, the religious actually hold the majority for abortion. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 26795689 United States07/27/2013 02:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I believe that there is no such thing as a supreme being that created the universe. I am open to that possibility should someone provide proof. However... Quoting: Radiki Just because I don't believe in God, doesn't mean i don't have morals. I think murder is wrong. I think stealing is wrong. I think abortion is wrong. In fact, I would say that I have a pretty sound moral set and I don't need God to tell me so. Priests are molesting young children, Christian presidents start unjustified wars, Muslim terrorists kills thousands in bombings and use women and children as shields. I don't need a book to tell me that all of that is wrong. Why do religious people group atheists into some scary stereotype when there is evil in every walk of life and in every creed. Creating two threads with conflicting proclamations? Thread: Why don't atheists have morals? Read this thread and you will see that the local trolls are at work. They can't come here and debate or comment in a logical fashion so they create a similar user name and pretend to be me.... Double check the names. I should have checked the timestamps, I had a feeling the other one was a troll thread.... You should report it accordingly and a map will clean it up. |
| Radiki (OP) User ID: 34360379 United States07/27/2013 02:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "Women identifying themselves as Protestants obtain 37.4% of all abortions in the U.S.; Catholic women account for 31.3%, Jewish women account for 1.3%, and women with no religious affiliation obtain 23.7% of all abortions. 18% of all abortions are performed on women who identify themselves as "Born-again/Evangelical"." [link to www.antiochian.org]  Radiki |
| Rockarchy User ID: 43116317 United States07/27/2013 02:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "Women identifying themselves as Protestants obtain 37.4% of all abortions in the U.S.; Catholic women account for 31.3%, Jewish women account for 1.3%, and women with no religious affiliation obtain 23.7% of all abortions. 18% of all abortions are performed on women who identify themselves as "Born-again/Evangelical"." [link to www.antiochian.org] Statistically speaking, the religious actually hold the majority for abortion. oh shit  |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 42922674 United States07/27/2013 02:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So, copied my user name and changed one letter. Then started a thread to attack my beliefs? That is very noble of you. Let me guess, you are a God-fearing person and you feel that coming after me with lies and deception is God's will? Attack your beliefs? You mean something akin to your religion? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 42922674 United States07/27/2013 02:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "Women identifying themselves as Protestants obtain 37.4% of all abortions in the U.S.; Catholic women account for 31.3%, Jewish women account for 1.3%, and women with no religious affiliation obtain 23.7% of all abortions. 18% of all abortions are performed on women who identify themselves as "Born-again/Evangelical"." [link to www.antiochian.org] Statistically speaking, the religious actually hold the majority for abortion. Just cause a person claims to be a Christian doesn't make it so, you retard. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1222180 United States07/27/2013 02:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You only say you would sacrifice your life to save your family ( so would I by the way ), BECAUSE you have a God-give conscience, you don't seem to realize that. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1222180 MY hypothetical is that if there REALLY were no God, no afterlife, etc. you would ALWAYS base your decisions on self-preservation. If you are in the forest, a black bear may eat you because he's hungry ( self-interest ). He has NO remorse for doing this, he doesn't care how devastated your family will be at hearing of your death. It is because a black bear has NO conscience ( no soul ) that he does not seem to know or care about "moral conduct", or YOUR right to life. With no morals and only thinking about self-preservation it sounds like you must think Atheists are psychopaths? Your 'god-given conscience' doesn't come from god at all, but from the part of the brain that deals with 'empathy.' You learn at an extremely young age not to go out and hurt people because you see how they feel -- and you don't want to experience that pain in return. And sorry to say it but, religious, atheist, agnostic, or even fucking scientologists have empathy in their brain, and if all religion was wiped from this planet, I'd think we'd get along pretty fine. What you call "empathy" is a God-given trait. I do not think all atheists are psychopaths. They have a God-given conscience without realizing the source. But, because they do not believe in God or Hell, on average, they are WORSE people than God-believers, because they do not think anyone will ever hold them accountable ( other than legally ). An atheist man may cheat on his wife, and consider that he hasn't really done anything wrong, as long as she never finds out. But Adultery is and of itself immoral, regardless whether or not the spouse ever finds out. |
