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Health Care Open Enrollment -- Family price going up $652 at my company.
Yeah, just got the email from HR today. My family will pay $652 more next year. The kicker? $5.25 per person is a direct Obamacare fee, per month.
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"WE WILL START BY REDUCING PREMIUMS BY AS MUCH AS $2500 PER FAMILY"
Barack Obama - Campaign promises 2008
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Yeah, just got the email from HR today. My family will pay $652 more next year. The kicker? $5.25 per person is a direct Obamacare fee, per month.
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Fear not AR, the "fee" will go up every year you've employer sponsored ins. You're doing you job to support the uninsured and unemployed. Forced philanthropy feels awesome doesn't it?
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Yeah, just got the email from HR today. My family will pay $652 more next year. The kicker? $5.25 per person is a direct Obamacare fee, per month.
 Quoting: Albino Rhino


Fear not AR, the "fee" will go up every year you've employer sponsored ins. You're doing you job to support the uninsured and unemployed. Forced philanthropy feels awesome doesn't it?
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Yes, feels awesome.
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In LA back in 2002/03/04 we were paying (small group coverage) for a family (spouses, children under 23) almost 2100 per month for two employees who were then over 50. Both were execs of the company and we paid it gladly. But those of you who are bitching about 500 or 750 per month do not realize how expensive coverage really is. Also, one serious accident or illness and if you do not have it, you will wind up bankrupt. Period. Even the very rich carry policies to cover 'catastrophic" levels of accident or injuries. They know that medical bills can run into the millions easily. Sometimes even into tens of millions.
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In LA back in 2002/03/04 we were paying (small group coverage) for a family (spouses, children under 23) almost 2100 per month for two employees who were then over 50. Both were execs of the company and we paid it gladly. But those of you who are bitching about 500 or 750 per month do not realize how expensive coverage really is. Also, one serious accident or illness and if you do not have it, you will wind up bankrupt. Period. Even the very rich carry policies to cover 'catastrophic" levels of accident or injuries. They know that medical bills can run into the millions easily. Sometimes even into tens of millions.
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And you think that the price of medical care makes sense? Do you think that's air your breathing Neo?
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That is why the shit should hit the fan and that is why Obuma was trying to sneak this by with the budget ....wake up people and watch your money fly out the window----or should I say to the health care rich mongrols......
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In LA back in 2002/03/04 we were paying (small group coverage) for a family (spouses, children under 23) almost 2100 per month for two employees who were then over 50. Both were execs of the company and we paid it gladly. But those of you who are bitching about 500 or 750 per month do not realize how expensive coverage really is. Also, one serious accident or illness and if you do not have it, you will wind up bankrupt. Period. Even the very rich carry policies to cover 'catastrophic" levels of accident or injuries. They know that medical bills can run into the millions easily. Sometimes even into tens of millions.
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And you think that the price of medical care makes sense? Do you think that's air your breathing Neo?
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So you're completely unaware of reality, and the costs began rising exponentially over a decade ago simply due to price gouging because of deregulation in the medical industry, Neo?
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"WE WILL START BY REDUCING PREMIUMS BY AS MUCH AS $2500 PER FAMILY"
Barack Obama - Campaign promises 2008
 Quoting: Albino Rhino


Well they started there.

Then they added a medical excise tax.
Then they took away your deductible.
Then they added a few more taxes and penalties.

Yadda Yadda Yadda

You now pay about 150%-300% more for your insurance.
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Obamacare=Eugenics

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And after you pay up to $14,000 per year in deductibles, the actual care youare insured for is 10x less(which is bad to start with), on top of the fact that all your getting is vaccines, garbage lipitor, and paxil rammed down your throat...nothing that actually supports health.
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You should be THANKING YOUR LUCKY STARS that YOUR SHARE of a family plan is only going up $652/yr.

My SINGLE person self bought plan is going up $325 PER MONTH and what is covered dropped by 30% (in dollars if something happens)!!

GO WHINE to someone else, someone who cares.

You are SPOILED because you are on an employer plan and have NO IDEA how much your insurance plan is really costing your company. (the total bill for most family plans cost a company about $24,000/yr, with the costs still climbing this year at about an 8% to 10% rate ... How much of that $24,000 are YOU paying?)
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"WE WILL START BY REDUCING PREMIUMS BY AS MUCH AS $2500 PER FAMILY"
Barack Obama - Campaign promises 2008
 Quoting: Albino Rhino


Well they started there.

Then they added a medical excise tax.
Then they took away your deductible.
Then they added a few more taxes and penalties.

Yadda Yadda Yadda

You now pay about 150%-300% more for your insurance.
 Quoting: Zedakah


They didn't take away the deductible. Most people have had their deductible increase sharply.
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Yeah, just got the email from HR today. My family will pay $652 more next year. The kicker? $5.25 per person is a direct Obamacare fee, per month.
 Quoting: Albino Rhino


Dude, C'mon! My family of three increased that much per month! Am I supposed to feel sorry for you? I have employer insurance until 1/1/14 then it goes bye-bye! Wait until you have to pay for this crap on your own!
I choose the fine route. Fuck the IRS! They will not get a dime from me because I plan to no longer file taxes. Throw me in jail! I dont give a fuck! I will not support this extortionist govt any longer.
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"WE WILL START BY REDUCING PREMIUMS BY AS MUCH AS $2500 PER FAMILY"
Barack Obama - Campaign promises 2008
 Quoting: Albino Rhino


Well they started there.

Then they added a medical excise tax.
Then they took away your deductible.
Then they added a few more taxes and penalties.

Yadda Yadda Yadda

You now pay about 150%-300% more for your insurance.
 Quoting: Zedakah


They didn't take away the deductible. Most people have had their deductible increase sharply.
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That's what I meant, sorry.
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"WE WILL START BY REDUCING PREMIUMS BY AS MUCH AS $2500 PER FAMILY"
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Re: Health Care Open Enrollment -- Family price going up $652 at my company.
You should be THANKING YOUR LUCKY STARS that YOUR SHARE of a family plan is only going up $652/yr.

My SINGLE person self bought plan is going up $325 PER MONTH and what is covered dropped by 30% (in dollars if something happens)!!

GO WHINE to someone else, someone who cares.

You are SPOILED because you are on an employer plan and have NO IDEA how much your insurance plan is really costing your company. (the total bill for most family plans cost a company about $24,000/yr, with the costs still climbing this year at about an 8% to 10% rate ... How much of that $24,000 are YOU paying?)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20589235


He's paying for all of it with his time. It's part of his pay package, don't bitch and call him spoiled because your employer doesn't. If his base salary is $60k and they pay $24k in insurance, they are paying him $82k to do the work he does. Make sense?

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BTW OP, if I were to pay a fine it would be more than what your increased premium amount will be. A 1% fine will be double what you are going to be paying. Go tell your sob story to Obama voters because I know you're getting off easy!
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Yeah, just got the email from HR today. My family will pay $652 more next year. The kicker? $5.25 per person is a direct Obamacare fee, per month.
 Quoting: Albino Rhino


Hail to king lord zero himself! I'm ready for this powder-keg to pop. Give it a month. By then, you'll have a few million others as pissed off as you. Change IS coming. It's just getting good.
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When everyone just decides to opt for the fine (erhm, "tax") because it is substantially cheaper than paying for health insurance, Obamacare will be declared a failure (it already is to those in the know) and be repealed (or replaced).
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THIS IS FOR ALL YOU FUCKING LIBERAL, ZOMBIE, STUPID, IDIOTS. Before even if you were to get into a car wreck, get about 20,000 worth of bills stacked up, you did not have to pay it.

All you had to do is say " i can't afford anything I need charity care" They would put you under charity care and you would pay only but a fraction if anything at all.

Why do you think the illegals come here and get free everything? They have been getting these freebies for a very long time this an't no new shit.

I am getting sick and tired of people talk about health insurance. I have aflac accidental insurance. You know encase I get into a car wreck. SOMETHING PHYSICALLY I CAN'T STOP.

If you are getting sick, having colds all the time, have a illness, ect ect. ITS NOT MY FAULT SO DON'T COLLECTIVIZE ME TO PAY FOR YOU.

Its not my fault that I know the cure for aids, diabetes, cancer, herpes, ect ect and you don't.


YOU REALLY THINK I AM GOING TO GO AROUND TO RANDOM PEOPLE AND TRY TO WAKE THEM UP AND HELP YOU? You gotta be kidding me

A person that makes 80,000k a year with all the so called insurance ect takes home just as much as the guy that makes 60k a year that does not have all the bull shit taken out of his check. Sometimes they make more

What a fucking joke its your body, and you don't even know how to take care of it HOW FUCKING SAD. If the doctor does mal practice ect you deserve every bit of what happens to you. Sad what the NWO has done to you people but o well glad I am exempt from obama care LOL have fun joining the NWO
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"WE WILL START BY REDUCING PREMIUMS BY AS MUCH AS $2500 PER FAMILY"
Barack Obama - Campaign promises 2008
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Yeah, just got the email from HR today. My family will pay $652 more next year. The kicker? $5.25 per person is a direct Obamacare fee, per month.
 Quoting: Albino Rhino


Ha! My company went to $935/month for family. I switched the wife and kids to Golden Rule, with dental for about $300 a month.
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Yeah, just got the email from HR today. My family will pay $652 more next year. The kicker? $5.25 per person is a direct Obamacare fee, per month.
 Quoting: Albino Rhino


Ha! My company went to $935/month for family. I switched the wife and kids to Golden Rule, with dental for about $300 a month.
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Still haven't heard from them on any increases from bammycare.. Waiting..
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In LA back in 2002/03/04 we were paying (small group coverage) for a family (spouses, children under 23) almost 2100 per month for two employees who were then over 50. Both were execs of the company and we paid it gladly. But those of you who are bitching about 500 or 750 per month do not realize how expensive coverage really is. Also, one serious accident or illness and if you do not have it, you will wind up bankrupt. Period. Even the very rich carry policies to cover 'catastrophic" levels of accident or injuries. They know that medical bills can run into the millions easily. Sometimes even into tens of millions.
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And you think that the price of medical care makes sense? Do you think that's air your breathing Neo?
 Quoting: Albino Rhino


So you're completely unaware of reality, and the costs began rising exponentially over a decade ago simply due to price gouging because of deregulation in the medical industry, Neo?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7967817


the reality is mankind got by thousands of year before their was insurance, they are counting on idiots to pay whatever ransom they demand which allows them to keep jacking up your price
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In LA back in 2002/03/04 we were paying (small group coverage) for a family (spouses, children under 23) almost 2100 per month for two employees who were then over 50. Both were execs of the company and we paid it gladly. But those of you who are bitching about 500 or 750 per month do not realize how expensive coverage really is. Also, one serious accident or illness and if you do not have it, you will wind up bankrupt. Period. Even the very rich carry policies to cover 'catastrophic" levels of accident or injuries. They know that medical bills can run into the millions easily. Sometimes even into tens of millions.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3063399


It's health care... it's not like you've got to rebuild the space shuttle each visit. How much could/should healthcare really cost is the question! Especially now that hospitals won't have to eat costs by uninsured... ??
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My insurance is going to go up $30 a week just for me.
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We are a family of 4 and pay 658 per month now. As of January if we want to stay with our ins BC/BS our premium is going up to 1866. per month for the same coverage.

I cant afford that since we are self pay due to the fact that my husband has his own one man show company, so we are going to have to only get hospitalization coverage after the new year and our premium will go down 20 bucks from what we pay now. We will lose all Dr office visit, prescriptions, and diagnostic tests/lab test coverage.

I think that plain old sucks, and all so I can do without and somebody who doesn't do shit has better coverage than we do and pays nothing.
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Please write to your Senator and let them know -
I did -
Your voice must be heard - this is going to break the working class. The root cause of the problem has NOT been solved. Just more crap heaped onto the middle class folks.

Initially they me my premiums would go up 65%. Yesterday, I was told the final figure was 41.89 % - which really is 42 %. No one can tell me why. Socialism has been put upon us. The feds didn't close the border and now Obamacare is pushing the problem onto tax paying citizens.
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When everyone just decides to opt for the fine (erhm, "tax") because it is substantially cheaper than paying for health insurance, Obamacare will be declared a failure (it already is to those in the know) and be repealed (or replaced).
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Realize it is win-win for them. The tax makes up for all that destruction of our mfg base and a myriad of other outsourced jobs and our massive unemployment numbers. The fine makes up for all those missing in action taxpayers bashed with such glee around here.

I do agree though, it is better in many ways to do without since ACA supports nothing actually life-supporting. Only death-dealing. Just wait to see anxiety levels skyrocket and all that brings.

But no, I doubt cleanly there will be no repeal or even acknowledgement of the harm being done (still hasn't by either 'party' with their recent pointless dramas). They enjoy scaring us out of what little we have left in terms of human well being. They really do love to watch suffering.
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Face it, the "Affordable Care Act is not affordable. It should be renamed Obama-Fucked-us-Care



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