Hey Athiests,,,how can you possibly not believe in a higher power????

It's simple. You just don't believe in one.

I know this is cliche, but true: think about how you don't believe in Zeus, Muhammad, Buddha, Apollo, etc. That's how simple it is.

No...its not like any of those...because the fact of higher power is observable in the universe.

It would be like denying trees, people, cars, etc. exist...when you can clearly see they do.

everything came from nothing, and I'm stickin to it!

your argument is that there must be something beyond this universe to put things in motion.

sound logic.

however, that doesnt make the "something" beyond universe a deity.

You can believe that...but how can anyone deny a higher power.

Gravity for example, has power over you. You are subject to it. Can you make Gravity go away by denying its existance? Of course not.

There are higher powers whether people like it or not.

if theres NOTHING in the beginning at all nothing can come from it without a higher power CREATING IT. Nothing cant come from nothing. ITS LOGIC.

I believe in ETs and Bigfoot...

:AlienDNA33::BFUFO::etbaby33:

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As I stated in my argument...set aside the attributes and character of it for a moment...whether or not its a Deity is one thing...but everyone has to at the very least admit that there IS a Higher Power to the Universe!

The next step would be to define what exactly a "God" or "Deity" is...

I would that A God, at it's very basic, is a force or thing that has power over subjective things, and sets an order to them. That's how the ancients viewed them...but then added to the "God"s human like characteristics and stories in order to conver their character and meaning.

I was being sarcastic.. Sorry, doesn't translate well in type.
The more I learn about the universe and society in general, the more I appreciate this gift of life from God.
We have this meatbag to manifest our dreams in real time.Its quite the gift imo

i dont think that anyone's point of emphasis is "nothing came from nothing".

That just shifts the argument elsewhere. Your still stuck with the question then of Who made the E.T.s?

Yes I have always found the "everything came from nothing" theory to be absurd.
A better observation is that a "black hole" is tied into birthing galaxies, which then takes us on the path to the "multiverse" conundrum.
We have a lot to learn, we are not Gods

You're just too stoopid to think for yourself, so you cling to a story that makes you feel comfortable in your retardation.

That's why I call you lot Religitards.

Atheists have superiority complex. It's impossible to believe there is something greater than themselves.

well yes but God still made it happen. He doesnt wiggle his nose.

Or, is it you that have an Inferiority complex !!!

So if your argument is that something can't come from nothing, then what created this deity?

Im Atheist and I agree. I can't stand Atheist's that are more fixed on "NO GOD" than Christians who never shut up about Jesus. I'd take a hardcore christian over a hardcore atheist anyday...and this is coming from a Gay-Atheist.. ;)

What is the universe? Is it nothing?

Is space nothing?

I am thinking for myself. I'm using reason and intellect.

Can you?

If you can...then explain to me how there aren't any higher powers...when we can clearly see there are. Can you say for example, levitate? Can you overcome the power of Gravity?

Of course not. So to claim your not subject to higher powers of any kind has to be the height of arrogance and stupidity...which is made plain to see by everyone when you try to claim there are no higher powers.

OP, I wonder why you call it "higher"


I don't believe in God


I believe in NON-PHYSICAL entities


Why do you call the non-physical entities "higher"?

Why do you think they are "higher" than you?

Why are you so submissive to them?

Why do you permit that the non-physical entities treat you as an inferior being?


They are not "higher" than you. They are just different than you.


Don't be a slave to them.

I think your view makes you an Agnostic, not an atheist.

Not that I like putting labels on people.

This is how you create something out of nothing:


-1<----- 0 ----->+1

-1 = space
+1 = matter
0 = chaos/whatever existed before the big bang.

God is the higher power that forced the separation.

Get it?

It's quite simple. I don't believe in deities. I think with how wonderful and amazing the universe is, it is silly to think that some magical person or magical persons created it all.

I need proof. Some books that were written long ago by people with different languages which were then translated by men who had vested interest in population control are not proof that some magical people live in the sky and made the earth.

What I can provide as proof is that the universe is expanding. And that it more and more resembles atoms and the makings of a living structure.

As an atheist I believe that I have control over my life, not some ancient man who's father killed him just to bring him back to life to prove how bad us people are.

I don't think babies are born with sin because that is again population control technique. I also don't feel the need to believe in some magical being in order to be good to others and treat those the way I would want to be treated.

If anything. The only thing I do worship is this planet. It has given everyone since the dawn of time everything they need to live. And yet it is usually the religious types that destroy and monetize it for their own personal gain.

Because there are physical forces that we are subject too...gravity for example. It has higher power over us.
Those forces in turn were the effect of greater forces that caused them...all the way back to the beginning. Therefore there has to be a higher power.

Its more of.. where did "god" come from?

He was just there right?

Well how did there get there for god to be there.

There is no answer.. and no point trying.

See, that just shows how retarded you are, your reasoning is that if there is no g_d then I must be g_d like and have special powers......Its just stupid.