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HHS delays 2015 enrollment to just past midterm elections
Health and Human Services plans to delay the start of the second year of Obamacare enrollment by one month to allow insurers more time to set rates after assessing their plan experiences during 2014, a department official said Thursday night.

The decision means that sign-ups for the 2015 plan year would begin on Nov. 15, 2014 and end on Jan. 15, 2015 instead of the Oct. 15-Dec. 7 window previously announced. The date change, first reported by Bloomberg, also lengthens the enrollment period by a week.

However, this misses the real risk for the White House, which isnít in the individual market in 2015.The people in that market will have been battered all year with higher premiums and ridiculous deductibles, and another round of escalation in both will only have a limited shock value. The risk is in the employer-provided group market, where costs will either skyrocket or employees will get kicked out of their coverage and forced into the individual market. Those decisions will come in the late summer or early fall, as businesses have to prepare 2015 budgets in those time frames.

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This is ILLEGAL.

This can't happen.

Either the LAW IS THE LAW or it is a piece of HORSE SHIT.

Which is it?
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Thanks for the pin! hf
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They seem to be in control now, gaining more power. Possibly even recruiting and leaving the others either dead or enslaved like cattle.
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Won't help, they're still fucked and they know it...
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Re: HHS delays 2015 enrollment to just past midterm elections
Health and Human Services plans to delay the start of the second year of Obamacare enrollment by one month to allow insurers more time to set rates after assessing their plan experiences during 2014, a department official said Thursday night.

The decision means that sign-ups for the 2015 plan year would begin on Nov. 15, 2014 and end on Jan. 15, 2015 instead of the Oct. 15-Dec. 7 window previously announced. The date change, first reported by Bloomberg, also lengthens the enrollment period by a week.

However, this misses the real risk for the White House, which isnít in the individual market in 2015.The people in that market will have been battered all year with higher premiums and ridiculous deductibles, and another round of escalation in both will only have a limited shock value. The risk is in the employer-provided group market, where costs will either skyrocket or employees will get kicked out of their coverage and forced into the individual market. Those decisions will come in the late summer or early fall, as businesses have to prepare 2015 budgets in those time frames.

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I wonder if the second year might bring good news for those in the individual market! Think I am crazy?

Right now, their rates are probably so high because all the cost from the new undesirable insurees is on their shoulders. Once the employees have to start kicking in, the cost would be spread more broadly and rates in the individual market would fall.

Am I right? Or crazy?
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Re: HHS delays 2015 enrollment to just past midterm elections
This is ILLEGAL.

This can't happen.

Either the LAW IS THE LAW or it is a piece of HORSE SHIT.

Which is it?
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It's both.

It is the law, it was jammed thru wrongly and in violation of proper procedure, but our government has no procedures for undoing such laws.

It is also, undeniably, horseshit.
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Re: HHS delays 2015 enrollment to just past midterm elections
Health and Human Services plans to delay the start of the second year of Obamacare enrollment by one month to allow insurers more time to set rates after assessing their plan experiences during 2014, a department official said Thursday night.

The decision means that sign-ups for the 2015 plan year would begin on Nov. 15, 2014 and end on Jan. 15, 2015 instead of the Oct. 15-Dec. 7 window previously announced. The date change, first reported by Bloomberg, also lengthens the enrollment period by a week.

However, this misses the real risk for the White House, which isnít in the individual market in 2015.The people in that market will have been battered all year with higher premiums and ridiculous deductibles, and another round of escalation in both will only have a limited shock value. The risk is in the employer-provided group market, where costs will either skyrocket or employees will get kicked out of their coverage and forced into the individual market. Those decisions will come in the late summer or early fall, as businesses have to prepare 2015 budgets in those time frames.

[link to hotair.com]
 Quoting: phocuss


I wonder if the second year might bring good news for those in the individual market! Think I am crazy?

Right now, their rates are probably so high because all the cost from the new undesirable insurees is on their shoulders. Once the employees have to start kicking in, the cost would be spread more broadly and rates in the individual market would fall.

Am I right? Or crazy?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49164253


CRAZY!!!! Name a time period when rates have gone down?
It hasn't happened and will not happen.
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Won't help, they're still fucked and they know it...
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Agreed...this WILL NEVER WORK. It cannot handle or control 1/6 th of the population to make this pos program work. Fuck I'm so sick of hearing about this Obuttfukcare. jerkit
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Won't help, they're still fucked and they know it...
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What is worse, TPTB are now pissing in our faces and not even trying to hide it. It's like "what the fuck are you gonna do about it?".
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Won't help, they're still fucked and they know it...
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What is worse, TPTB are now pissing in our faces and not even trying to hide it. It's like "what the fuck are you gonna do about it?".
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Won't help, they're still fucked and they know it...
 Quoting: Saddletramp


Yep....Pandora's box has been opened...it cannot be closed.

People now know what is going to happen to their insurance and doctors...if it hasn't happened already to them.
100 million MORE about to lose insurance....year delay or not.

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Im so sick of the fuckery. Im bringing the knock out game full force to DC. Only difference is im not a knee grow and I will hit you full frontal no need to sucker punch.

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Re: HHS delays 2015 enrollment to just past midterm elections
This is ILLEGAL.

This can't happen.

Either the LAW IS THE LAW or it is a piece of HORSE SHIT.

Which is it?
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Congress has let them get away with change the law so many times, that now they believe they can just make legislation with a pen stroke whenever they want. If congress doesn't slap them down, we are all fucked. Since the total number of balls in congress could be counted on your fingers, we're all fucked. This is, without a doubt, the most nutless group of politicians ever assembled in one place.
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As far as I'm concerned, EVERY fucking DEMOCRAT has to go!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: HHS delays 2015 enrollment to just past midterm elections
This is ILLEGAL.

This can't happen.

Either the LAW IS THE LAW or it is a piece of HORSE SHIT.

Which is it?
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That family of his is going to have to go back to Kenya or where ever he is from because I just don't see it being safe for them to stay here in the next couple of years after this mess really kicks in and the "rage" sets in. Everybody is gonna be looking to get even, His old voter, his own kind...EVERYBODY! I feel sorry for the fools that voted for this thing.
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Re: HHS delays 2015 enrollment to just past midterm elections
That family of his is going to have to go back to Kenya or where ever he is from because I just don't see it being safe for them to stay here in the next couple of years after this mess really kicks in and the "rage" sets in. Everybody is gonna be looking to get even, His old voter, his own kind...EVERYBODY! I feel sorry for the fools that voted for this thing.
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In January 2017 when he leaves office, he'll get on the helicopter (like W did) to Andrews AFB where he'll be met by a plane airlifting him safely away.





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