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Anonymous Coward User ID: 50921492 Spain 12/03/2013 08:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 50847719 Interesting, I speak Russian and the translation is okay. They are saying the speed changed suddenly, and direction. If it did then the only conclusion we can really draw is it is a spaceship. There's too many other anomalies. It's not made out of rock, it's not made out of ice, it's coma is not dust, it contains basically no oxygen atoms. What's that mean, that that nucleus is a solid piece of metal? If it were a meteor-like it could have been a rock-metal mix, but there's no rock. This info is directly from NASA, I'm just filling in the conclusions. sdoisgo.blogspot.com/2013/11/where-was-comet-ison.html On SDO AIA 0304 (Red) we witnessed some sort of interaction during perihelion. Gravitational / magnetic / electric, we don't know but we saw it. [link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov] ISON was discovered at a distance of 8 AU from the sun. This is a very large distance, comets are typically discovered much closer to the sun. Furthermore, ISON was discovered with a coma. At 8 AU. Regular comets are usually discovered without a coma first, and only develop as they approach the sun. I guess now in a few days, we will be able to see what's in the nucleus of ISON, since the coma has faded. Also, let's take a look at some SDO footage of Lovejoy. [link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov] Here are a couple big differences between it and ISON. 1. Lovejoy's brightness artifacts on LASCO C3 were not smooth like ISON's. ISON brightened linearly. Lovejoy's jumped around as if it was exploding a bit. 2. Lovejoy (AND its coma/trail) was visible during perihelion observations (to a reasonable degree). It contained oxygen atoms and thus showed up. ISON was a complete ghost BUT came in with a coma, and came out with a coma. I think it is safe to assume that ISON's 'coma' was there throughout perihelion. So yeah, ISON is not a dirty snowball to say the least, and I highly doubt it's meteor-like or asteroid-like. I think this is truly unlike anything we have ever seen. I still can't get past the 8 AU distance of discovery. How was it discovered SO far out? Did they witness some sort of electrical interaction between ISON & something else? What? How? WAY more questions, inconsistencies & screw ups than answers. You are right, I think when it was discovered was interacting with something ... I think it could have been Saturn??? |
freedomain (OP) User ID: 23423659 United Kingdom 12/03/2013 08:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | now it's 8.9 km/s difference so it's consistently lowering and if I work it out more accurately I it will show to be heading towards 0 more quickly as time goes on is anybody getting this ? Sorry, i am not getting it. What does this difference indicate? Is it not the "normal" slowdown? because the speed between ison and earth is lowering faster than the speed between ison and the sun and if and when this difference reaches 0 then ison (or debris) will be headed straight towards earth |
green_girl User ID: 49871189 Canada 12/03/2013 08:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | skylive is not real time info. it is a simulation based on info that was input before perihelion. The data you are seeing now is what was predicted, not what is happening. then why is it updating in a way that shows it turning towards Earth ? it is heading for a spot 40 000 000 km ABoVE the earth. :malefav: I love this place!! |
BadMoonRisen User ID: 42411020 United Kingdom 12/03/2013 08:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the comet is going to slow down daily, as pre the norm. its accelleration was due to the sun, and now that it is travelling away it is experiencing the same force in reverse, meaning that it is going to slow down and failry quickly too. but that is normal and was factored into the predicted trajectory. Quoting: green_girl in the gif you posted that shows ison approaching earth, that is also normal. that is a top down view, and we already know that ison is going to go straight over us. Wait. Is this the same comet that your team declared was dead? If you are depressed, you are living in the past. If you are anxious, you are living in the future. If you are at peace, you are living in the present. [link to www.inmomsbasement.com] The best time to plant a tree was 20 years ago. The second best time is now. |
green_girl User ID: 49871189 Canada 12/03/2013 08:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the comet is going to slow down daily, as pre the norm. its accelleration was due to the sun, and now that it is travelling away it is experiencing the same force in reverse, meaning that it is going to slow down and failry quickly too. but that is normal and was factored into the predicted trajectory. Quoting: green_girl in the gif you posted that shows ison approaching earth, that is also normal. that is a top down view, and we already know that ison is going to go straight over us. Wait. Is this the same comet that your team declared was dead? i refer to the dust and small debris from ison as ison. my viewpoints as to what ison is at this point can be found in astro's thread. BMR is just clinging to the hope of humanity's destruction :malefav: I love this place!! |
BadMoonRisen User ID: 42411020 United Kingdom 12/03/2013 08:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the comet is going to slow down daily, as pre the norm. its accelleration was due to the sun, and now that it is travelling away it is experiencing the same force in reverse, meaning that it is going to slow down and failry quickly too. but that is normal and was factored into the predicted trajectory. Quoting: green_girl in the gif you posted that shows ison approaching earth, that is also normal. that is a top down view, and we already know that ison is going to go straight over us. Wait. Is this the same comet that your team declared was dead? i refer to the dust and small debris from ison as ison. my viewpoints as to what ison is at this point can be found in astro's thread. BMR is just clinging to the hope of humanity's destruction Why are you putting words in my mouth Green Witch? Show me one post when I said such a thing? I'll wait... Distraction techniques again? Last Edited by BadMoonRisen on 12/03/2013 08:20 AM If you are depressed, you are living in the past. If you are anxious, you are living in the future. If you are at peace, you are living in the present. [link to www.inmomsbasement.com] The best time to plant a tree was 20 years ago. The second best time is now. |
awoken1 User ID: 50755131 United Kingdom 12/03/2013 08:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | so ison is gunna go straight over us? unless science and astronomy have each possible fragment/section tracked individually then no one can say for sure that a fragment cant stray and reach earth? so the possibility for doom is still on in my book :) awoken1 |
green_girl User ID: 49871189 Canada 12/03/2013 08:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the comet is going to slow down daily, as pre the norm. its accelleration was due to the sun, and now that it is travelling away it is experiencing the same force in reverse, meaning that it is going to slow down and failry quickly too. but that is normal and was factored into the predicted trajectory. Quoting: green_girl in the gif you posted that shows ison approaching earth, that is also normal. that is a top down view, and we already know that ison is going to go straight over us. Wait. Is this the same comet that your team declared was dead? i refer to the dust and small debris from ison as ison. my viewpoints as to what ison is at this point can be found in astro's thread. BMR is just clinging to the hope of humanity's destruction Why are you putting words in my mouth Green Witch? Show me one post when I said such a thing? Distraction techniques again? i was joking, obviously, hence the chuckle at the end of it. lighten up dude. there is no doom. ison is a cremated corpse now. i can still refer to it as ison without being discontinuous to my previous comments regarding its current state. :malefav: I love this place!! |
BadMoonRisen User ID: 42411020 United Kingdom 12/03/2013 08:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's not a joke to tell GLP that a member says a thing - or wants a thing - that is not true. Stop spreading your evil lies everywhere you go you foul woman. If you are depressed, you are living in the past. If you are anxious, you are living in the future. If you are at peace, you are living in the present. [link to www.inmomsbasement.com] The best time to plant a tree was 20 years ago. The second best time is now. |
green_girl User ID: 49871189 Canada 12/03/2013 08:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | so ison is gunna go straight over us? unless science and astronomy have each possible fragment/section tracked individually then no one can say for sure that a fragment cant stray and reach earth? so the possibility for doom is still on in my book :) Quoting: awoken1 but fragments can't "stray". they have to follow the same path. they do not contain the energy required to break free from it. the velocity they were travelling at is mind bogglingly overwhelming. ison itself did not have the energy. nothing that little comet could do would have been powerful enough to break its trajectory. :malefav: I love this place!! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 50921492 Spain 12/03/2013 08:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Interesting, I speak Russian and the translation is okay. They are saying the speed changed suddenly, and direction. If it did then the only conclusion we can really draw is it is a spaceship. There's too many other anomalies. It's not made out of rock, it's not made out of ice, it's coma is not dust, it contains basically no oxygen atoms. What's that mean, that that nucleus is a solid piece of metal? If it were a meteor-like it could have been a rock-metal mix, but there's no rock. This info is directly from NASA, I'm just filling in the conclusions. sdoisgo.blogspot.com/2013/11/where-was-comet-ison.html On SDO AIA 0304 (Red) we witnessed some sort of interaction during perihelion. Gravitational / magnetic / electric, we don't know but we saw it. [link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov] ISON was discovered at a distance of 8 AU from the sun. This is a very large distance, comets are typically discovered much closer to the sun. Furthermore, ISON was discovered with a coma. At 8 AU. Regular comets are usually discovered without a coma first, and only develop as they approach the sun. I guess now in a few days, we will be able to see what's in the nucleus of ISON, since the coma has faded. Also, let's take a look at some SDO footage of Lovejoy. [link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov] Here are a couple big differences between it and ISON. 1. Lovejoy's brightness artifacts on LASCO C3 were not smooth like ISON's. ISON brightened linearly. Lovejoy's jumped around as if it was exploding a bit. 2. Lovejoy (AND its coma/trail) was visible during perihelion observations (to a reasonable degree). It contained oxygen atoms and thus showed up. ISON was a complete ghost BUT came in with a coma, and came out with a coma. I think it is safe to assume that ISON's 'coma' was there throughout perihelion. So yeah, ISON is not a dirty snowball to say the least, and I highly doubt it's meteor-like or asteroid-like. I think this is truly unlike anything we have ever seen. I think you are 100 % right. Ison is unlike anything we have never seen. I think it only brightens when it interacts in someway (electrically/magnetically) with whoknows what. Maybe with some planets or celestial bodies which are made up with the same metal or materials than Ison is???? or maybe that are charged with the same kind of energy Ison is??? |
freedomain (OP) User ID: 23423659 United Kingdom 12/03/2013 08:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | so ison is gunna go straight over us? unless science and astronomy have each possible fragment/section tracked individually then no one can say for sure that a fragment cant stray and reach earth? so the possibility for doom is still on in my book :) Quoting: awoken1 it is said to be fragmented and coning so how far will the cone reach ? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 50986370 France 12/03/2013 08:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i refer to the dust and small debris from ison as ison. my viewpoints as to what ison is at this point can be found in astro's thread. BMR is just clinging to the hope of humanity's destruction Why are you putting words in my mouth Green Witch? Show me one post when I said such a thing? Distraction techniques again? i was joking, obviously, hence the chuckle at the end of it. lighten up dude. there is no doom. ison is a cremated corpse now. i can still refer to it as ison without being discontinuous to my previous comments regarding its current state. Ison a cremated corpse? Are you serious? You just showed how very little you know. |
BadMoonRisen User ID: 42411020 United Kingdom 12/03/2013 08:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: green_girl i refer to the dust and small debris from ison as ison. my viewpoints as to what ison is at this point can be found in astro's thread. BMR is just clinging to the hope of humanity's destruction Why are you putting words in my mouth Green Witch? Show me one post when I said such a thing? Distraction techniques again? i was joking, obviously, hence the chuckle at the end of it. lighten up dude. there is no doom. ison is a cremated corpse now. i can still refer to it as ison without being discontinuous to my previous comments regarding its current state. Ison a cremated corpse? Are you serious? You just showed how very little you know. The Green witch knows about as much as the rest of us at the moment which is very little. Please don't treat her as an expert. Last Edited by BadMoonRisen on 12/03/2013 08:33 AM If you are depressed, you are living in the past. If you are anxious, you are living in the future. If you are at peace, you are living in the present. [link to www.inmomsbasement.com] The best time to plant a tree was 20 years ago. The second best time is now. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 50986370 France 12/03/2013 08:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: BadMoonRisen Why are you putting words in my mouth Green Witch? Show me one post when I said such a thing? Distraction techniques again? i was joking, obviously, hence the chuckle at the end of it. lighten up dude. there is no doom. ison is a cremated corpse now. i can still refer to it as ison without being discontinuous to my previous comments regarding its current state. Ison a cremated corpse? Are you serious? You just showed how very little you know. The Green witch knows about as much as the rest of us at the moment which is very little. Please don't treat her as an expert. Believe me I know she is no expert, in fact I think she isn't much past beginner. Bless her trying though... |
green_girl User ID: 49871189 Canada 12/03/2013 08:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: green_girl i refer to the dust and small debris from ison as ison. my viewpoints as to what ison is at this point can be found in astro's thread. BMR is just clinging to the hope of humanity's destruction Why are you putting words in my mouth Green Witch? Show me one post when I said such a thing? Distraction techniques again? i was joking, obviously, hence the chuckle at the end of it. lighten up dude. there is no doom. ison is a cremated corpse now. i can still refer to it as ison without being discontinuous to my previous comments regarding its current state. Ison a cremated corpse? Are you serious? You just showed how very little you know. of course i am not serious. i am being cheeky with the whole comet is "dead" thing. You people need to lighten up. Ison is not a threat. You need to watch fewer youtube videos. But as i said, i am not here to argue with anyone. if you want to cling to your silly doom scenarios, have at her. If anyone here has actual questions, i am always lurking around. other than that, good day! :malefav: I love this place!! |
Morpheus User ID: 729560 Canada 12/03/2013 08:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the comet is going to slow down daily, as pre the norm. its accelleration was due to the sun, and now that it is travelling away it is experiencing the same force in reverse, meaning that it is going to slow down and failry quickly too. but that is normal and was factored into the predicted trajectory. Quoting: green_girl in the gif you posted that shows ison approaching earth, that is also normal. that is a top down view, and we already know that ison is going to go straight over us. Wait. Is this the same comet that your team declared was dead? |
RagingStar User ID: 50970667 United States 12/03/2013 08:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why are you trying to change other peoples ignorant opinions green girl?... They can believe what they want, they don't need your ignorant opinion mixed with theirs. The very fact that you are always on Ison threads and always trying to debunk what cannot be debunked, almost proves you are a shill on its on. People want to chat with like minded people, not with people who think differently than them. So either STFU, or we are going to continue to call you a shill. Only a shill would be this interested in changing other peoples opinions. This is also for astro and geo, LOL... Anyone else notice how they have the same signature and picture xD STRANGE! Last Edited by RagingStar on 12/03/2013 08:53 AM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 41677872 United States 12/03/2013 09:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | skylive is not real time info. it is a simulation based on info that was input before perihelion. The data you are seeing now is what was predicted, not what is happening. wouldnt that also apply to everything you and astro are saying too? every word used to debnk ison seriously effecting our planet has no more merrit then any doom senerio, less acually since we know from prior data, and your own admission, that wewillpass thru the inbound debris and ison will pass directlyover earth. what do you gain at the loss of your soul in drawing an absulute of safety for all to see? what sffering will occure by your words if they are false? i see you witchy poo and you picked the wrong God. |
green_girl User ID: 49871189 Canada 12/03/2013 09:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | skylive is not real time info. it is a simulation based on info that was input before perihelion. The data you are seeing now is what was predicted, not what is happening. wouldnt that also apply to everything you and astro are saying too? every word used to debnk ison seriously effecting our planet has no more merrit then any doom senerio, less acually since we know from prior data, and your own admission, that wewillpass thru the inbound debris and ison will pass directlyover earth. what do you gain at the loss of your soul in drawing an absulute of safety for all to see? what sffering will occure by your words if they are false? i see you witchy poo and you picked the wrong God. except that we have a really good track record when it comes to tracking objects to base our opinions off of. We have actual real data backing our side of the argument, versus all the uninformed speculating going on in the ison threads. as i said, no one has to believe me. i just put my info here for those that want it. you are free to carry on and ignore me. :malefav: I love this place!! |
BadMoonRisen User ID: 42411020 United Kingdom 12/03/2013 09:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Stop infecting the other Ison threads with your 'knowledge' - such as it is. If you are depressed, you are living in the past. If you are anxious, you are living in the future. If you are at peace, you are living in the present. [link to www.inmomsbasement.com] The best time to plant a tree was 20 years ago. The second best time is now. |
attila User ID: 2215239 France 12/03/2013 09:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | skylive is not real time info. it is a simulation based on info that was input before perihelion. The data you are seeing now is what was predicted, not what is happening. wouldnt that also apply to everything you and astro are saying too? every word used to debnk ison seriously effecting our planet has no more merrit then any doom senerio, less acually since we know from prior data, and your own admission, that wewillpass thru the inbound debris and ison will pass directlyover earth. what do you gain at the loss of your soul in drawing an absulute of safety for all to see? what sffering will occure by your words if they are false? i see you witchy poo and you picked the wrong God. except that we have a really good track record when it comes to tracking objects to base our opinions off of. We have actual real data backing our side of the argument, versus all the uninformed speculating going on in the ison threads. as i said, no one has to believe me. i just put my info here for those that want it. you are free to carry on and ignore me. like you successfully tracked the chelyabinsk meteor last time Right? |
awoken1 User ID: 50755131 United Kingdom 12/03/2013 09:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | good track record when it comes to tracking? were not that good, the russian meteor last year? unless we can see into the future we cant predict nothing for sure imo, something we havnt got tracked could disturb wot ever is left over of ison and bring it here, we can predict all we we want but we can never be absolutely sure of anything. awoken1 |
green_girl User ID: 49871189 Canada 12/03/2013 09:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | good track record when it comes to tracking? were not that good, the russian meteor last year? unless we can see into the future we cant predict nothing for sure imo, something we havnt got tracked could disturb wot ever is left over of ison and bring it here, we can predict all we we want but we can never be absolutely sure of anything. Quoting: awoken1 no one saw it coming. we cant watch the entire sky. i am talking about successfully tracking object that we know about. great track record actually. :malefav: I love this place!! |
attila User ID: 2215239 France 12/03/2013 09:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | if there was any risk of doom coming from space, there is no way the TPTB would allow the info to leak. see the rumbling on a black friday. they lie to us about aspartame danger or nuclear , or wifi effects on wealth but they would inform us of something worst. finish your lollypop and get back to sesame street |
BadMoonRisen User ID: 42411020 United Kingdom 12/03/2013 09:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | it is almost pointless at this point Dr. SOME PEOPLE are jumping from thread to thread infecting every one with their closed mindedness about ison. Just keeping the doom going. At least time will prove us right. I would like to think that when hubble swings around for a peek and sees nothing that the whole issue will die, but you just know they are going to claim that nasa saw it and just isnt telling us. This fake doom will haunt us right up until january i think. There are still people on glp thinking they are taking photographs of ison, that is how sad it is. Quoting: green_girl Go away you annoying Green Witch. Keep out of the other Ison threads including this one, and I'll keep out of TheTeams thread. If you are depressed, you are living in the past. If you are anxious, you are living in the future. If you are at peace, you are living in the present. [link to www.inmomsbasement.com] The best time to plant a tree was 20 years ago. The second best time is now. |
attila User ID: 2215239 France 12/03/2013 09:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | good track record when it comes to tracking? were not that good, the russian meteor last year? unless we can see into the future we cant predict nothing for sure imo, something we havnt got tracked could disturb wot ever is left over of ison and bring it here, we can predict all we we want but we can never be absolutely sure of anything. Quoting: awoken1 no one saw it coming. we cant watch the entire sky. i am talking about successfully tracking object that we know about. great track record actually. there are things we know that we know and things we know we don't know as well as things we dont know that we dont know... so you mean a sentinel is not about detecting danger but having a look at an already known danger in other words were fucked |
attila User ID: 2215239 France 12/03/2013 09:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | good track record when it comes to tracking? were not that good, the russian meteor last year? unless we can see into the future we cant predict nothing for sure imo, something we havnt got tracked could disturb wot ever is left over of ison and bring it here, we can predict all we we want but we can never be absolutely sure of anything. Quoting: awoken1 no one saw it coming. we cant watch the entire sky. i am talking about successfully tracking object that we know about. great track record actually. you watch at a bird to avoid it shittin on your head while in the meantime you get your leg bitten by a snake , great record actually, as you die with no shit on yopur head. gret success |
green_girl User ID: 49871189 Canada 12/03/2013 09:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | good track record when it comes to tracking? were not that good, the russian meteor last year? unless we can see into the future we cant predict nothing for sure imo, something we havnt got tracked could disturb wot ever is left over of ison and bring it here, we can predict all we we want but we can never be absolutely sure of anything. Quoting: awoken1 no one saw it coming. we cant watch the entire sky. i am talking about successfully tracking object that we know about. great track record actually. you watch at a bird to avoid it shittin on your head while in the meantime you get your leg bitten by a snake , great record actually, as you die with no shit on yopur head. gret success you are ignoring what i say. we track comets very very well. ison is going to miss by millions of miles. but by all means, keeo panicking. it is what they want anyway. i can wait until january and just have another "i was right" party then. :malefav: I love this place!! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 50744505 Finland 12/03/2013 09:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | skylive is not real time info. it is a simulation based on info that was input before perihelion. The data you are seeing now is what was predicted, not what is happening. wouldnt that also apply to everything you and astro are saying too? every word used to debnk ison seriously effecting our planet has no more merrit then any doom senerio, less acually since we know from prior data, and your own admission, that wewillpass thru the inbound debris and ison will pass directlyover earth. what do you gain at the loss of your soul in drawing an absulute of safety for all to see? what sffering will occure by your words if they are false? i see you witchy poo and you picked the wrong God. except that we have a really good track record when it comes to tracking objects to base our opinions off of. We have actual real data backing our side of the argument, versus all the uninformed speculating going on in the ison threads. as i said, no one has to believe me. i just put my info here for those that want it. you are free to carry on and ignore me. Why are you saying "we"? I've never seen you contribute to anything tangible. You are merely a fluffer. |