What Exactly Do Atheists Contribute To Society?

Where are all the Atheist today?

This kind of thinking is the cause of all problems in the world IMO.

This idea that it is either 'us' or 'them' is a very primitive trait of all humans on this planet, stemming from our tribal origins.

Another poster could come on here and make the thread 'What do Christians contribute to Society?' and I would have the same reaction. You imply that all members of these groups (whether it be group 'x' or 'y') think in the exact same way, when there are a myriad of beliefs and opinions within these groups, covering all bases imaginable.

As soon as some one adds themselves to a category they are diminishing their ability to see the whole picture. Person A could be a democrat, Atheist, gay, black male....while person B is a republican, Christian, straight, white female....now these 2 individuals would probably argue for the next decade over things that they don't even know to be true or whether it is 'the right way' of doing things. This 'certainty' over ones own beliefs causes more problems than it is worth and will never lead to real progress.

I would have thought that this kind of view or way of thinking would be less abundant on a forum such as this seeing as it tends towards the 'free thinking' scale of things. I would bet that the people in positions of power are not squabbling with each other over their various opinions behind closed doors. They are laying out these categories and 'boxes' as traps, and people are falling into them left, right and centre.

Get back on the damn fence! It has a MUCH better view!

Please, don't make me list here all the Atheist inventors who created technology that contribute A LOT to society, or to list here all Atheists who have worked for humanitarian causes....

COINTELPRO 101 DIVIDE AND CONQUER
TALK ABOUT SECRET SOCIETIES INSTEAD OF THIS THREAD.

And if that's all you've got, your shit is mighty weak.

Come on... you can do better than that!

Athiests contribute to bitching, moaning and hatefulness. They are smart asses and they think that death is the big sleep. Boy are they going to be surprised. Because they don't believe that there is any judgment or any God to judge men, they believe in the "if it feels good, do it" philosophy because they think they will get away with it.
Some of the most evil people on the planet are athiests.

I don't know, but truthfully, I did not miss them...

You are right, atheism doesn't contribute, it only subtracts, negates, removes, corrupts and leaves the individual and society with an aching hollow.

In Tucson, I'll tell you what would be left, would be that pest hole Pima County Hospital.

See my post as to why you are slowing the progress of our entire species.

+ Waterlily

Thanks.

Last Edited by ThreeDog on 12/15/2013 04:45 PM

Never known one to give to charity or donate their time to helping anyone, who wasn't direct friend or family.

dang if they don't sound just like a christian. add hypocritical to it and it's a perfect description.
remember when you point your finger, there are 3 fingers pointing back at you.
that being said, i am not an atheist, and i am certainly not of the cristicon religion.

I work hard, pay my taxes, give to charity, love my woman and my family.

I live and let live.

Is that not enough?

Please don't paint all atheists with the same brush, yes there are factions of militant atheism that act like dicks... there are plenty of militant religious factions that do the same.

It's up to the individual to contribute or not, regardless of religious faith or lack thereof.

I find this thread to be... odd.

Well after seeing the responses to this I feel stupid for trying to make a point in my post. Have fun believing you know everyone in the world and their opinions.

Of course you do. It ties your tongue and makes you think.

So where are the Atheist hospitals, orphanages, and charities?

Last Edited by Mike Ehrmantraut on 12/15/2013 04:53 PM

You are just trying to stir shit. The poster you just replied to clearly does much more thinking than you, or at least it seems that way. I can only assume you are trolling.

Yeah yeah yea.... stirring shit by making you realize you offer nothing.

I understand your frustration.

go you realize that the majority of those "charities" are corrupt and skimming like 90% off the top? you can dig up the dirt online if you really want to know the truth on the matter.

Yeah... those Salvation Army people are some real con artists!

Actually I'm sure some do. I also know that some do not.

So where are the Atheist hospitals to provide healthcare to the indignant?

Last Edited by Mike Ehrmantraut on 12/15/2013 05:04 PM

Troll confirmed...I always offer something.

:dubya:

Not that I've seen.

Like I said... I understand your frustration.

Best to just forget about it and move on.

That's something to do with your separation of church and state. Here in England, Anglicanism is the state religion so we don't really have that sort of issue.


AFAIK Atheist just don't believe in God, that sounds like something else happening there.



Well you have freedom of speech so they can't do that, don't worry.



OK closing hospitals is definitely nothing to do with atheism. Are you sure they're not health insurance companies doing that?



You need something like our NHS. They treat you whether you are indignant or not.


America is not very good at social care / services. I think you just don't like your fellow citizens very much.


Well you are right there, atheism is an absence of something, not a religion.



Well do you want to close hospitals, charities, orphanages and stop people mentioning Jesus on T.V. No I don't think so and neither will other atheists so stop worrying.

In my country, atheists are only concerned of Christianity, but do not criticize Islam. Why is that?

You really didn't answer my question...

But you can't.

Two 1 stars.... and two tongue-tied Atheists.

Atheists are making the claim that they have proven a negative. "There is no God."

The smarter ones call themselves agnostic. "I don't know"

In either case, Where do their morals come from? Themselves.

That being the case, What should we expect from them?

More loving?

Unlike you I am a Christian. What you don't understand, despite being an atheist, is that atheism is the absence of something, i.e. a belief in God. So by definition something that does not exist does not actually do anything, what don't you get about that? It's like saying what good have giant invisible flying jellyfish done for me lately. Get your brain in gear atheist.

Hmm why would someone name a hospital or charity after 'atheism'? Does that make any sense?

Do you personally feel you could possibly know the personal beliefs of all individuals involved in these types of operations that would enable you to make any type of informed assessment about the nature of this entire field of work and the individuals involved in it?

Atheism is a lack of a belief in a anthropomorphic deity. That's all. It's not a psychological condition marked by a lack of a capacity for empathy or compassion for others. It is not a denial of common attributes associated with human nature. If believing in an athropomorphic deity is the only reason why a person would want to help others or feel compassion for others, then that person needs to reevaluate their motivations for their behavior(s).... If you concede that believing in an athropomorphic deity is NOT the primary motivation for displaying those types of attributes towards others, then you would need to ask yourself why lack of any such belief (in a deity) would be assumed to be indicative of behavior that is contrary to exhibiting such attributes?

This discussion is very tiresome because it centers around generalizations and assumptions about peoples behavior based on stated beliefs. CHARACTER is not defined by arbitrary beliefs about this subject matter. You can't just ask individuals what they believe about the subject matter of a 'God' and then make assumptions about their character, true nature, or behavior with any accuracy/reliability. Life is complex and diverse and cannot be defined by limiting generalizations and simplistic assumptions. We must move beyond the tendency to do this.

First off, I'm not a Bible-thumper. I haven't been to a church in more than 50 years, and I don't subscribe to any particular religion. If asked, I have always said that I'm an Atheist, more or less.

Well, the other day, after reading about a group of Atheist suing to remove a memorial cross in San Diego, I got to thinking about it.

A large number of these people (the Atheist) are doing their very best to rid us of anything even remotely related to Christianity, and I just don't see the positive of it.

They are striving to rid us of the symbols. The cross, the Nativity scene, and even the mere mention of the word Jesus on television. They would relish the closure of Catholic hospitals (there are 2 alone here in Tucson), charities and orphanages.

So, Atheists... If you succeed... if anything and everything related to Christianity is shuttered, closed, and removed from society, what exactly do you have to offer in it's place?

Will you be opening hundreds, maybe thousands of hospitals across the country and provide free healthcare to the indigent?

What are your plans for replacing the charities, the food banks, the second hand stores, the homeless shelters and orphanages?

How does Atheism provide hope and comfort to someone in turbulent times?

Please, tell me how Atheism contributes positively to society because I just don't see it.


You are too close minded in your thinking. Do you not realise that all these groups are infiltrated by those whom seek to cause disharmony in humanity. Every group, atheist's, feminists, gays, political groups etc. etc. are all infiltrated by those whom seek to destroy the family group and the unity of male/female.

It is all to easy just to blame what you can see rather than digging deeper to establish what the real agenda is and whom is backing it. Start by peeling back the layers of what is really going on.

Whom do you think backed woman's right to abortion do you think it was kind hearted men. No it was those who seek control and wish to make money. Plus there is nothing new about religious groups fighting against each other.

haha this thread is caca.

logic why should we continue to use religion as a basis for our society sure the Church has done great and good things but your cant dismiss all the death and suffering it has caused as well. Lets get this strait Religion is a tool used to control mankind and has been used for thousands of years. People die for their religion they kill for it they sacrifice themselves believing it will get them into heaven fooled by their leaders to think their godly and the enemy is evil. Why do we hang on to ancient beliefs we now know are probably elaborations and maid up story's. Religion offers us morals and thats all we need from it to know what is right and wrong is the most important thing to come from religion but religion is not needed to know these morals. Religion embracing ignorance something we sorely need less of