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Life and Love User ID: 34763041 United States 05/19/2014 02:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | By MARY CLARE JALONICK Quoting: Ms. Superduper Associated Press WASHINGTON (AP) -- House Republicans are proposing to let some schools opt out of healthier school lunch and breakfast programs if they are losing money. A GOP spending bill for agriculture and food programs released Monday would allow schools to apply for waivers if they have a net loss on school food programs for a six month period. [link to hosted.ap.org] Well, I have to admit that a lot of healthy food is going into the dumpster. We become like that to which we are devoted. - Choose wisely. |
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Chrit User ID: 51395437 United States 05/19/2014 03:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I remember the days when the parents fed their own kids. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51124565 So tell me, the families on food stamps, how come they can't pack a lunch for their own kids? Are they too busy to pack a lunch? Lot of the poorest schools banned it, or charge the parents 2 bucks if their kid brings a lunch. When 80%+ of a schools students are on assisted lunch program the school sees profits in that, big profits. If the school can collect 4-6 bucks a day from every student it adds up quick, so they force the kids to sign up. Now the good school that are acutely trying to follow the rules of the program and serve “healthy” food are losing money hand over fist because they are using quality items, not institutional wholesale foods like they serve in the inner city districts. North Carolina as an example has 115 school districts and over 65 of them are losing money on the lunches. The kids just wont buy the food anymore, it's that bad. Now the losses are cutting in to the education budget, but then again those at the top don't want education, they want indoctrination. I'm only human, it's my biggest flaw. We must all realize a sink a chair and a pillow are all luxuries of home and a soldiers helmet takes the place of all three. |
Chrit User ID: 51395437 United States 05/19/2014 03:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I remember the days when the parents fed their own kids. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51124565 So tell me, the families on food stamps, how come they can't pack a lunch for their own kids? Are they too busy to pack a lunch? Lot of the poorest schools banned it, or charge the parents 2 bucks if their kid brings a lunch. When 80%+ of a schools students are on assisted lunch program the school sees profits in that, big profits. If the school can collect 4-6 bucks a day from every student it adds up quick, so they force the kids to sign up. Now the good school that are acutely trying to follow the rules of the program and serve “healthy” food are losing money hand over fist because they are using quality items, not institutional wholesale foods like they serve in the inner city districts. North Carolina as an example has 115 school districts and over 65 of them are losing money on the lunches. The kids just wont buy the food anymore, it's that bad. Now the losses are cutting in to the education budget, but then again those at the top don't want education, they want indoctrination. Lunch participation is at an all-time low now despite the free meals. So they are looking in to changing the rules, ready? Snip; The expansion, which will impact more than 20,000 school across the country, reports the Washington Post, "will provide free breakfast and lunch to all students in schools where at least 40 percent of the children are low-income." That change is intended "to increase participation in the free meals program and to relieve the paperwork burden on schools," reports the Post. origional; [link to www.washingtonpost.com] I liked this one better [link to reason.com] In 2007 6% of my kids school was on assisted lunch program, today were at 28% and rising. This is an upper end district, division one football and all. I'm only human, it's my biggest flaw. We must all realize a sink a chair and a pillow are all luxuries of home and a soldiers helmet takes the place of all three. |
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beeches User ID: 28167778 United States 05/19/2014 04:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | so, instead of providing adequate funding for kids to eat decent food, they'll scrap the rules and allow schools to put the vending machines in there. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11976018 Sounds legit. they should butt out. Vending machines are fine, real lunches are fine, bringing your own is fine. what is not fine is the fake dietician moochelle deciding what crap can be served. Liberalism is totalitarianism with a human face – Thomas Sowell |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 22062820 United States 05/19/2014 04:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here in Western North Carolina, my kids in school say it is the worst things they have ever eaten and beg to take their lunch from home every day! I hope this bill passes. Alot of parents don't make lunches for their kids to take so these kids are just not eating this garbage they are served and are going hungry! |
beeches User ID: 28167778 United States 05/19/2014 04:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The bad thing about this is that they're all railing against Michelle Obama as if she had any actual hand in creating these guidelines that the school's can't meet. She's much more of a spokesperson for the program. Quoting: ThunderMud if you don't think lending her face and persona to the programs is a big deal, you are deluding yourself. She's the captain of the ship - she takes the blame. Liberalism is totalitarianism with a human face – Thomas Sowell |
beeches User ID: 28167778 United States 05/19/2014 04:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I remember the days when the parents fed their own kids. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51124565 So tell me, the families on food stamps, how come they can't pack a lunch for their own kids? Are they too busy to pack a lunch? Lot of the poorest schools banned it, or charge the parents 2 bucks if their kid brings a lunch. When 80%+ of a schools students are on assisted lunch program the school sees profits in that, big profits. If the school can collect 4-6 bucks a day from every student it adds up quick, so they force the kids to sign up. Now the good school that are acutely trying to follow the rules of the program and serve “healthy” food are losing money hand over fist because they are using quality items, not institutional wholesale foods like they serve in the inner city districts. North Carolina as an example has 115 school districts and over 65 of them are losing money on the lunches. The kids just wont buy the food anymore, it's that bad. Now the losses are cutting in to the education budget, but then again those at the top don't want education, they want indoctrination. Chrit, can you name a state or district for me where they are charging kids to bring food from home? Thanks for mentioning it, it is the worst bit yet. That is absolutely outrageous. I would not pay that extortion, as a parent. Nor would my child attend that school. Last Edited by beeches on 05/19/2014 04:54 PM Liberalism is totalitarianism with a human face – Thomas Sowell |
Chrit User ID: 51395437 United States 05/19/2014 04:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | so, instead of providing adequate funding for kids to eat decent food, they'll scrap the rules and allow schools to put the vending machines in there. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11976018 Sounds legit. That is the thing, less kids are eating lunch then before. In the last three years alone as the free lunches are getting handed out faster then ever before less kids are taking the food. Every day I pick up my kid and a few friends and the first thing we do is go eat real food. Everything is "sugar free", all the NutraSweet crap they serve in school now is worse then what used to be served. They serve no 2% or whole milk anymore, only skim. You can't buy extra things to eat, you have to take everything they serve now as a unit and pay for it all. Portion sizes are beyond small and they are not allowed to pass out condiments anymore. Kids are saving their money and stopping at the gas station on the way home to get food, your money goes a lot farther. The handicapped kids in my school for the last 20 year had a store where they sold baked goods and candy. That's banned now, the student body as a whole is pissed and the teachers are also. This below is after million of more kids are now getting free lunches. The drop is bigger then 5% and a lot of the "free" meals are traded or trashed. Snip; It said there has been a nearly five percent participation drop in school lunch programs since the 2011 and 2012 school year. [link to fox4kc.com] I'm only human, it's my biggest flaw. We must all realize a sink a chair and a pillow are all luxuries of home and a soldiers helmet takes the place of all three. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 58250132 United States 05/19/2014 04:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I remember the days when the parents fed their own kids. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51124565 So tell me, the families on food stamps, how come they can't pack a lunch for their own kids? Are they too busy to pack a lunch? No just too lazy. Plus it's hard to pack fajitas and lobster in a kids lunch especially when the fat ass parents eat it all and leave none for the kids. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 11976018 United States 05/19/2014 05:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | so, instead of providing adequate funding for kids to eat decent food, they'll scrap the rules and allow schools to put the vending machines in there. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11976018 Sounds legit. they should butt out. Vending machines are fine, real lunches are fine, bringing your own is fine. what is not fine is the fake dietician moochelle deciding what crap can be served. the current child obesity rate disagrees with your claim that "vending machines are fine" |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 11976018 United States 05/19/2014 05:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The bad thing about this is that they're all railing against Michelle Obama as if she had any actual hand in creating these guidelines that the school's can't meet. She's much more of a spokesperson for the program. Quoting: ThunderMud if you don't think lending her face and persona to the programs is a big deal, you are deluding yourself. She's the captain of the ship - she takes the blame. That's like blaming Tony the Tiger because Frosted Flakes is crap |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 57443824 United States 05/19/2014 05:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | By MARY CLARE JALONICK Quoting: Ms. Superduper Associated Press WASHINGTON (AP) -- House Republicans are proposing to let some schools opt out of healthier school lunch and breakfast programs if they are losing money. A GOP spending bill for agriculture and food programs released Monday would allow schools to apply for waivers if they have a net loss on school food programs for a six month period. [link to hosted.ap.org] WHY SHOULD THE FEDERAL GOV'T. HAVE ANY INVOLVEMENT IN WHAT LOCALS SCHOOLS SERVE FOR LUNCHES ANYWAYS? GOD DAMN IT! |
Chrit User ID: 51395437 United States 05/19/2014 05:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Chrit, can you name a state or district for me where they are charging kids to bring food from home? Thanks for mentioning it, it is the worst bit yet. Quoting: beeches That is absolutely outrageous. I would not pay that extortion, as a parent. Nor would my child attend that school. I can't find it and I need to run out, it never made the news, I saw it in some school releases. It's very common in preschools, so the districts with attached preschools to their elementary schools started rolling the idea over to the k-3 group. They want their money, one way or another, just like if they don’t like something in the lunch you pack they take the kids food away, provide a crappy meal and charge the parents rather than supplementing the one item they deem missing in to the home packed lunch. Also very common in Europe. I'm only human, it's my biggest flaw. We must all realize a sink a chair and a pillow are all luxuries of home and a soldiers helmet takes the place of all three. |
Chrit User ID: 51395437 United States 05/19/2014 05:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The bad thing about this is that they're all railing against Michelle Obama as if she had any actual hand in creating these guidelines that the school's can't meet. She's much more of a spokesperson for the program. Quoting: ThunderMud It is 100% the first lady who created this. FDA; Through the Healthy, Hunger-Free Kids Act championed by the First Lady and signed by President Obama, USDA made the first major changes in school meals in 15 years, which will help us raise a healthier generation of children. [link to www.fns.usda.gov] They even have a life size cardboard cut out of her at the register of the lunch line in my kids school, provided by the government. Last Edited by Chrit on 05/19/2014 05:34 PM I'm only human, it's my biggest flaw. We must all realize a sink a chair and a pillow are all luxuries of home and a soldiers helmet takes the place of all three. |
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Chrit User ID: 51395437 United States 05/19/2014 05:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How does a high school kid who is playing for a full football scholarship who is 6’9 and weighs in at 350 pounds of pure muscle going to survive off a 750 calorie meal. One size does not fit all and the “fat” kids are still going to go home and now snack even more then before just like they always did because they did not eat at school. Ever see a kid who was sheltered from junk food al their life head off to college alone, we all know what happens. Snip; Sounding a new aggressive tone, first lady Michelle Obama vowed in a private conference call on Monday to fight industry efforts at rolling back healthy school-lunch standards, an issue that could come up for a vote on Capitol Hill later this week. The remarks to health activists were made in an off-the-record conference call at the beginning of a week of intense lobbying around proposed changes in the national school-lunch program, which sets standards for fat, sugar and sodium levels in food. [link to www.washingtonpost.com] I'm only human, it's my biggest flaw. We must all realize a sink a chair and a pillow are all luxuries of home and a soldiers helmet takes the place of all three. |
Ms. Superduper (OP) User ID: 46155084 United States 05/19/2014 05:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If anyone really wants a CERTIFIED nutritionist, usually a good health store has one for no charge to meet with her or him. Last Edited by Ms. Superduper on 05/19/2014 06:02 PM Greater is He who is in me than he who is in the world. Whatever feels good to your soul, do that. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 11976018 United States 05/19/2014 05:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The bad thing about this is that they're all railing against Michelle Obama as if she had any actual hand in creating these guidelines that the school's can't meet. She's much more of a spokesperson for the program. Quoting: ThunderMud It is 100% the first lady who created this. FDA; Through the Healthy, Hunger-Free Kids Act championed by the First Lady and signed by President Obama, USDA made the first major changes in school meals in 15 years, which will help us raise a healthier generation of children. [link to www.fns.usda.gov] They even have a life size cardboard cut out of her at the register of the lunch line in my kids school, provided by the government. The key word in your quote is "championed" that's not creation, that's cheerleading. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 58224992 United States 05/19/2014 05:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here, let me break down the political code language for you. Democrats: People are fat so we must dictate what they eat or impose penalties if they eat what they want. Republicans: Poor people must not be fed for free, it disturbs our extermination of poor people. |
Useless Cookie Eater User ID: 29696048 United States 05/19/2014 05:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The bad thing about this is that they're all railing against Michelle Obama as if she had any actual hand in creating these guidelines that the school's can't meet. She's much more of a spokesperson for the program. Quoting: ThunderMud Michelle Obama wholly owns the ENTIRE PROGRAM.....you lying shillbag. It's her "baby"...and it's as ugly as she is. |
Chrit User ID: 51395437 United States 05/19/2014 06:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The bad thing about this is that they're all railing against Michelle Obama as if she had any actual hand in creating these guidelines that the school's can't meet. She's much more of a spokesperson for the program. Quoting: ThunderMud It is 100% the first lady who created this. FDA; Through the Healthy, Hunger-Free Kids Act championed by the First Lady and signed by President Obama, USDA made the first major changes in school meals in 15 years, which will help us raise a healthier generation of children. [link to www.fns.usda.gov] They even have a life size cardboard cut out of her at the register of the lunch line in my kids school, provided by the government. The key word in your quote is "championed" that's not creation, that's cheerleading. Because she does not draw up legislation or vote, it all started with "let's move". Quote; "In the end, as First Lady, this isn’t just a policy issue for me. This is a passion. This is my mission. I am determined to work with folks across this country to change the way a generation of kids thinks about food and nutrition." - First Lady Michelle Obama [link to www.letsmove.gov] Snip;First Lady Michelle Obama today announced an ambitious national goal of solving the challenge of childhood obesity within a generation so that children born today will reach adulthood at a healthy weight and unveiled a nationwide campaign – Let’s Move The Task Force recommendations focus on the five pillars of the First Lady’s Let’s Move! initiative: 1. Creating a healthy start for children 2. Empowering parents and caregivers 3. Providing healthy food in schools 4. Improving access to healthy, affordable foods 5. Increasing physical activity [link to www.whitehouse.gov] Last Edited by Chrit on 05/19/2014 06:11 PM I'm only human, it's my biggest flaw. We must all realize a sink a chair and a pillow are all luxuries of home and a soldiers helmet takes the place of all three. |
Chrit User ID: 51395437 United States 05/19/2014 06:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The bad thing about this is that they're all railing against Michelle Obama as if she had any actual hand in creating these guidelines that the school's can't meet. She's much more of a spokesperson for the program. Quoting: ThunderMud Michelle Obama wholly owns the ENTIRE PROGRAM.....you lying shillbag. It's her "baby"...and it's as ugly as she is. Yes it is. When you want kids to eat better foods, the first thing you should not do is serve canned peas in school for lunch. All they are doing is turning off a generation to real healthy eating, No kid is going to try fresh peas after being introduced to peas for the first time as a canned institution food. I almost feel like it is on purpose. Last Edited by Chrit on 05/19/2014 06:14 PM I'm only human, it's my biggest flaw. We must all realize a sink a chair and a pillow are all luxuries of home and a soldiers helmet takes the place of all three. |