ACA Thanks OBAMA!!!!!!!!

Okay. So what if you have to go to the hospital for a week? A week in the hospital in my area (and probably most areas) could easily cost $200,000. Then what? I guess the people who have nothing, no house, no assets don't care. So maybe that's why you all can be so cavalier about it.

Some diseases (and accidents) can't be prevented no matter what!

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Posted how mine went up 33% a couple months ago. No one seems to give a shit and will just pay the new prices. Ours is rumored to go up again next year possibly by as much as this year

I've simply opted out of the system entirely. I won't get health insurance nor will I pay any fine or penalty, period.

I got mine from a private broker. If someone is eligible for the subsidy they can only get it from the stupid obama website.

Lobbyists wrote the law. That's why it doesn't make any sense at all. Everybody got what they wanted for their own clients, with no regard for what everyone else wanted. Even the NRA got a piece of the pie (although a very small one). That's why the doctors are required to ask about guns in your home, but are forbidden to record the answer. Most docs don't realize they are breaking the law by writing down your answer, but it's a fact! That is the NRA lobbyist's contibution, and most ignored part of the law. You might point that out the next time you are in the doc's office. They will look at you like you're fucking nuts, but it's worth it.

SAME same...It's all illegal.

Bull shit!!!!

You fucking yards hated bush so much and you loved president lucifer. I remember.

Wow thanks for putting it into perspective!!! Do we actually have to pay this penalty at the end of the year? No way to get out of it? I mean come on its absolutely ridiculous what they're doing right now to the middle class!

No matter where you go it will be obamacare. You will have to get it eventually.

Same here, OP. We are not self employed, however, I carried our family on my company's plan (small company) for 6 of us for $420 per month with a $500 deductible and 80/20 coverage (prescriptions and everything). This year, the company experienced a 40% rate increase causing them to decide to dump spouses altogether and go to a high deductible plan. I now pay the same premium and have a family deductible of $5,700 per year before anything is covered. My husband is now uninsured.

and I'm sure that shoe would fit right up your ass too.

You signed up for it (retard) so you get what you deserve.

It's called non-compliance.

I have never made a claim to the contrary

:)

Dude just walk into a hospital and pretend to be an illegal, you'll get everything free.

Well, you can save a lot of money on prevention, that's for sure. I just don't like having to spend a lot of money for somebody's because they don't take care of themselves. It's just something that stuck with me 20 years ago. Everything I predicted has pretty much come true. Plus the way things are run make it hard to change for the better to save $$$ and so on. We're all fucked.

Acute vs chronic disease are a huge difference... chronic diseases... can save a whole lot of money...

Didn't we have catastrophic health plan to begin with before things got out of control because we don't take care of our selves?

By making several cheap and simple changes to our diet, we will save enormous amount of money... Here is just one example for ONE vitamin... [link to www.lewrockwell.com]

Or just Borrow one of these poor little orphans that are pouring over the border.

Just be careful the ones with tattoos bite.

:crack33:

I take 50,000 IUs of Vit D per week, so I agree with where you're coming from. I do basically everything that's right for my body. Still don't want to be without health insurance. Unfortunately, obama and his minions have made catastrophic health plans illegal.

Don't pay.

Wait until the employer mandate kicks in, in 2015, where it is predicted that most employers will drop healthcare coverage altogether because it will be too expensive for them to cover employees and their families and leaving us to be dumped into obamacare.

The only people who will not be affected will be public service workers (unions who are exempt), and whose benefits are paid by the taxpayers and those on welfare who get their healthcare free anyway...

Ya ain't seen nothing yet folks...


The same way that welfare recipients don't care how high food prices are or how high fuel prices go because it NEVER affects them only us who pay for it all.

:Obiecare:

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Yeah, that's what we do as well. Just frustrating to see rate keep going up no matter what. The deductible is pretty crazy. I just don't know what to do... My wife and I have jobs so we will probably just go separate ways with her keeping hers through her job and mine through my job which would save thousands of dollars. It's pretty crazy how expensive it is to add a kid or family to the plan. I'd save a ton on deductible through my job if I'm the only one covered if something happened to me.

You will have to pay the tax on your 1040 which is 2% of your income I think. Still loads cheaper usually.

Kill the middle class, Kill small business.

He promised change.

As much as i hate the idea universal coverage it would be far better than this. That way it would be equal.

This will bleed to death the people hurting the most.

I also gave up on the idea that our two parties care about the US anymore and despise them equally the Democrats OWN this abomination and should be held accountable for it.

Oh and Judge Roberts(oddly enough, or was it that odd?)

America is be purposefully dismantled before our very eyes and the vast majority of Americans don't even see it.

You touched upon an aspect of Barrycare which doesn't get much press. Barrycare is designed to segregate the elite from the rest of the peasants in regard to care and whom you may be bunking with during a hospital stay if you don't get a private room. A lot of the best medical facilities in this country are excluded from say the bronze and or silver Barrycare plans. Or I recall reading something to this affect at one time.

Cheers

I just had my pacemaker/defibrillator replaced because the battery was getting low. It was a very easy surgery lasting perhaps an hour. Got the first bill yesterday for over $92,000.

The insurance company negotiated the bill down to $52,000. Have yet to get the other bills. Fortunately, we have good insurance, though it has got worse this year.

My company will have to pay a $112,000,000 penalty for having too good of insurance next year. Our company is raising rates and copay's, plus reducing coverage to comply with the ACA bull crap. We got hit this year with increases and more are to come. The letter from the company specifically stated ACA was to blame for the decrease in coverage, increase in rates, and penalty.

We had the best insurance for years and now ACA has screwed it up. My coverage is provided by the state University where my wife works and guess who is ultimately paying the tab? The students in tuition increases and tax payers who fund the university. My wife has worked at the university and taken below industry wages in leiu of great benefits but those days are over.

Thanks zerobama.

The new Blue Shit plan has incorporated a bullshit catastrophic coverage deductible for our family. Now for my husband's chemo, we have to meet a $6,000 deductible along with paying 30% of the chemo meds.

Translation: Come up with the money or my love will worsen(or worse) without treatment.

Our premiums went up too..

Excuse me while I seek the perpetual money tree to shake.

Funny you mention that.

My wife works for the local school system as an aide. She is hourly and the position does not include health benefits. I have benefits, for now, through my employer so that's not a big deal. Just today though she was notified that starting 2015, her, and all of her other hourly co-workers, will have their hours reduced from 7 hours a day to 5 hours a day. If the school system doesn't reduce the hours they will be mandated to carry health coverage for those positions. We are in a small community and the school system cannot afford to do that, so instead of eliminating the positions, they will reduce the hours.

That's after the 100% increase in cost, with reduced coverage, I experienced this year from my employer. The employer also hinted there will be more changes again this year during open enrollment, but did not elaborate. As big as the company is, I am sure they're crunching the numbers to see if paying the 'fine' will be more cost effective than carrying coverage for their employees. I'll have to wait a few more months to find out.

My wife and I have already switched to herbal remedies and prevention, and only carry insurance for catastrophes, but if coverage is dropped all together or goes up substantially again this year, I don't know that it will be worth keeping. We, as many others have stated, are seriously considering opting completely out of the system.

So much for doing, what I thought was the right thing, by working hard and getting a good paying job/career. It's starting to be pointless.

Crazy times we are living in...

Last Edited by Sol Neman on 09/04/2014 08:02 PM

Same quote I got,$24,000+ a year counting deductible and no 100% coverage.

Make sure you read the fine print close, lot of the plans don't cover prescriptions till the deductible is filled. Plus they only have to cover 1 drug in each category, so if you have a prescription already there is a very good chance it won't be covered. My accountant said we could divorce to save because of my glaucoma prescription, it will save us over $6000 a year. I'm not doing it, I'll bank the cash and take my chances. I increased my medical coverage on our auto insurance just incase of an accident.

30 minutes in the bright sun without a shirt on and in shorts will net you about 20,000 IU