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432hz music is harmonically more complex and more powerful than modern 440hz tuning

 
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432hz music is harmonically more complex and more powerful than modern 440hz tuning
Check out the water sound image of 432hz vs 440hz:

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When we tune stringed instruments or pianos to A=432hz, the resulting music overflows with additional harmonics and overtones not present when the instruments are tuned to a reference pitch of 440hz, in which the pure harmonics are stunted. 432hz frequencies are focused as shown in the above image, which creates a more balanced response in the listener and does not need to be turned as loud as the frequencies generated are more powerful over the full spectrum of the music.

The best way to know this is true is to test it for yourself. I and many musicians I know have experimented at length with this tuning and it definitely imparts a more natural, open, warm and transparent feel to any music in any style. It seems creative ideas flow better and the emotion or intention of the song is translated easier to the audience who also feels the benefit. It just counds right, without the shrill and artificial brightness of 440hz.

If you are a musician please try it for awhile and see what you think. Tune your guitars and bass to A=432hz and record some songs, it is especially noticable during playback. Here is a reference note for A at 432hz, just tune your A string to this and then tune the rest of your strings to your A string:

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For repeated and stage use of this tuning, most Korg brand tuners, including the GA1 CA-40 models can be calibrated to 432hz and are very inexpensive.

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Re: 432hz music is harmonically more complex and more powerful than modern 440hz tuning
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Re: 432hz music is harmonically more complex and more powerful than modern 440hz tuning
No. Your ears will just get used to 432hz, then when you hear 440hz, that will eventually sound better. Try actually playing an instrument for yourself.
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No. Your ears will just get used to 432hz, then when you hear 440hz, that will eventually sound better. Try actually playing an instrument for yourself.
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I've been playing guitar and bass for over 20 years, and there is actual proof that 432hz is harmonically superior if you would read up on it. The best proof however is actually trying it and listening back during a recording.
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No. Your ears will just get used to 432hz, then when you hear 440hz, that will eventually sound better. Try actually playing an instrument for yourself.
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I've been playing guitar and bass for over 20 years, and there is actual proof that 432hz is harmonically superior if you would read up on it. The best proof however is actually trying it and listening back during a recording.
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Considering the sheer level of absolute bullshit you post, Mikey, I'm gonna call bsflag
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Re: 432hz music is harmonically more complex and more powerful than modern 440hz tuning
No. Your ears will just get used to 432hz, then when you hear 440hz, that will eventually sound better. Try actually playing an instrument for yourself.
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I've been playing guitar and bass for over 20 years, and there is actual proof that 432hz is harmonically superior if you would read up on it. The best proof however is actually trying it and listening back during a recording.
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Considering the sheer level of absolute bullshit you post, Mikey, I'm gonna call bsflag
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You are a fantastic example of the negative effects of 440hz music. Plus you didn't even read the thread or click the links. Move along, nothing to see here.
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Re: 432hz music is harmonically more complex and more powerful than modern 440hz tuning
No. Your ears will just get used to 432hz, then when you hear 440hz, that will eventually sound better. Try actually playing an instrument for yourself.
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I've been playing guitar and bass for over 20 years, and there is actual proof that 432hz is harmonically superior if you would read up on it. The best proof however is actually trying it and listening back during a recording.
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Considering the sheer level of absolute bullshit you post, Mikey, I'm gonna call bsflag
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You are a fantastic example of the negative effects of 440hz music. Plus you didn't even read the thread or click the links. Move along, nothing to see here.
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You get a job yet, Mikey?
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I've been playing guitar and bass for over 20 years, and there is actual proof that 432hz is harmonically superior if you would read up on it. The best proof however is actually trying it and listening back during a recording.
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Considering the sheer level of absolute bullshit you post, Mikey, I'm gonna call bsflag
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You are a fantastic example of the negative effects of 440hz music. Plus you didn't even read the thread or click the links. Move along, nothing to see here.
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You get a job yet, Mikey?
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This ain't Mikey. Now please go away shill.
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No. Your ears will just get used to 432hz, then when you hear 440hz, that will eventually sound better. Try actually playing an instrument for yourself.
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I've been playing guitar and bass for over 20 years, and there is actual proof that 432hz is harmonically superior if you would read up on it. The best proof however is actually trying it and listening back during a recording.
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How could it be harmonically superior? It's harmonically identical, just transposed.

But the water pattern is interesting, maybe the 432 tones interact differently with the body and mind.
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FWIW, another musician here, and I believe that a 432hz tuning is a wonderful thing. First time I ever heard something moved into a 432hz, my body's reaction was to feel the music more into my gut, the core.

I agree that 440 is pretty much wrong, especially for singers. In the 432 or (435 Verdi A), the resonances are kinder and the edges are smoother in production of the vocal sound.

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No. Your ears will just get used to 432hz, then when you hear 440hz, that will eventually sound better. Try actually playing an instrument for yourself.
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I've been playing guitar and bass for over 20 years, and there is actual proof that 432hz is harmonically superior if you would read up on it. The best proof however is actually trying it and listening back during a recording.
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How could it be harmonically superior? It's harmonically identical, just transposed.

But the water pattern is interesting, maybe the 432 tones interact differently with the body and mind.
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The harmonics and overtones are more rich and complex and ring out longer. The music as a result does not need to be turned as loud as the frequency response is more powerful accross the spectrum.

It definitely interacts differently with the listener'smind and body.
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Re: 432hz music is harmonically more complex and more powerful than modern 440hz tuning
FWIW, another musician here, and I believe that a 432hz tuning is a wonderful thing. First time I ever heard something moved into a 432hz, my body's reaction was to feel the music more into my gut, the core.

I agree that 440 is pretty much wrong, especially for singers. In the 432 or (435 Verdi A), the resonances are kinder and the edges are smoother in production of the vocal sound.

afro
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Exactly, it seems to make the listener and player alike feel the music more, rather than just the cerebral experience of it.

Modern society is so obviously stuck in a aggressive, hyper-analytical mindset. I think this is a direct result of 440hz, which makes us think, analyze and judge everything with the left brain. A more balanced way of thinking and feeling, left and right combined, is our natural state of being.
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[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

Aside from pissing off my cat immensely with the music...this is a blind study you can do on yourself. So take the test, tally your results, get results at the end of the video.

I'm currently not impressed with 432. I might retake the test with headphones to be sure.
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Re: 432hz music is harmonically more complex and more powerful than modern 440hz tuning
The popular notion as of recently that we can just convert modern music recorded at 440hz back to 432hz I don't think is much help (there is an iPhone app for this, and also Audacity amonf other software). As the music has already been recorded at 440 tuning, those dissonant frequencies are already encoded in the cd or mp3 and don't just go away.

What is really needed is for musicians worldwide to begin playing and recording in 432hz. There is anongoing petition to return standard reference pitch to the Verdi tuning of A=432hz (middle C=256hz):

[link to www.schillerinstitute.org]
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My wife thinks it's amazing, I was wondering if it's confirmation bias. (this is using the ipad app btw). She can normally hear all the words to songs, to me, I may hear the chorus words, rest is just a mush.

Then it suddenly dawned on me: at 432, I can hear all the words !?!

The app is free, so plz run the experiment if you're lyrics challenged like me. Would be interesting.
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I tune my sitars to D 288 (A 432).The resonance and over all sound is better to my ears.
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No it isn't you idiots.
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My wife thinks it's amazing, I was wondering if it's confirmation bias. (this is using the ipad app btw). She can normally hear all the words to songs, to me, I may hear the chorus words, rest is just a mush.

Then it suddenly dawned on me: at 432, I can hear all the words !?!

The app is free, so plz run the experiment if you're lyrics challenged like me. Would be interesting.
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Good point. I've noticed as well there is much more clarity in the music so it doesn't have to be turned as loud to listen to.

This is because the notes and chords are much more resonant in this tuning, as opposed to 440hz where everything needs to be cranked up to hear it.
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To all that say there is almost no difference from 432 to 440, YES THERE IS. Cymatics DON'T LIE. 432hz is more harmonic and perfect vibrationally than 440.
Anyone can check the cymatics experiences or even do it yourself!!!!
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No. Your ears will just get used to 432hz, then when you hear 440hz, that will eventually sound better. Try actually playing an instrument for yourself.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68027466


I've been playing guitar and bass for over 20 years, and there is actual proof that 432hz is harmonically superior if you would read up on it. The best proof however is actually trying it and listening back during a recording.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68793289


How could it be harmonically superior? It's harmonically identical, just transposed.

But the water pattern is interesting, maybe the 432 tones interact differently with the body and mind.
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Again, search for "cymatics experience 432hz and 440hz".
Sounding better or not to your ears, doesn't matter,there will be always people saying 440 sounds better or viceversa. CHECK the Vibrational patterns THEY ARE CRYSTAL CLEAR.
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Re: 432hz music is harmonically more complex and more powerful than modern 440hz tuning
FWIW, another musician here, and I believe that a 432hz tuning is a wonderful thing. First time I ever heard something moved into a 432hz, my body's reaction was to feel the music more into my gut, the core.

I agree that 440 is pretty much wrong, especially for singers. In the 432 or (435 Verdi A), the resonances are kinder and the edges are smoother in production of the vocal sound.

afro
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clappa

Pay attention people! Watch the singers too! They can easily song in 432hz. 440hz can damage your voice!
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So, I tune my guitar to 432htz, but as soon as I play anywhere up the neck we are in a different frequency. So I just don't get it. Unless you only play the open notes of the tuning, it seems like a mute point once you start playing actual notes up the neck.
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I tune my guitar to D minor which is the saddest of all keys.
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With hz screens as concipis body and with a dot server that mimics the ones attention as person in different long think ideas
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Hertz so Good?
The resonating delusion of the 432Hz movement

www.miltonline.com/2014/01/07/hertz-so-good/

new age fantasy/pseudoscience
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Hertz so Good?
The resonating delusion of the 432Hz movement

www.miltonline.com/2014/01/07/hertz-so-good/

new age fantasy/pseudoscience
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i dont think it's delusion.

however stop telling people about it. i set logicX to 432 A as base for all my vst soft synths...

and I KNOW those songs are far more popular on soundcloud, than 440. i enjoy this as my secret weapon. killjoy!
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Re: 432hz music is harmonically more complex and more powerful than modern 440hz tuning
So, I tune my guitar to 432htz, but as soon as I play anywhere up the neck we are in a different frequency. So I just don't get it. Unless you only play the open notes of the tuning, it seems like a mute point once you start playing actual notes up the neck.
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All the notes that result from a guitar tuned to A=432hz, such as middle C=256hz are more resonant and have a greater abundance of overtones. Doesm't matter where on the neck you play or what note it is, it will still be sonically improved.
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So, I tune my guitar to 432htz, but as soon as I play anywhere up the neck we are in a different frequency. So I just don't get it. Unless you only play the open notes of the tuning, it seems like a mute point once you start playing actual notes up the neck.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47160826


All the notes that result from a guitar tuned to A=432hz, such as middle C=256hz are more resonant and have a greater abundance of overtones. Doesm't matter where on the neck you play or what note it is, it will still be sonically improved.
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Please explain the science behind this, then.





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