Hatred of The Rapture is not From True Christians but Toward True Christians

You have some serious problems with dividing the word and it's because you're not a workman studying enough.

2 Timothy 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

That's why you don't get it, check the stuff I linked in my post before this one.

Well no, hardly anybody knows or cares about this fake rapture thingy.

People like you are too sorry and dysfunctional to be hated.

He wants to be the hero, it's a very American thing, that's why post trib is so popular with Americans, they think they will be these soldiers :D

Also they don't study the King James Bible enough, their dispensations are all a mess, thinking all of the Bible is about them, they're a theological mess.

I study twenty hours a week for over 15 years how about you.


Show me the rapture in scripture..


Jesus clearly said we will go thru great Tribulation..


And Joel 3 and Amos agree with me..

So does Revelation 13, Deuteronomy 28 Revelation 15, 18.

Joel 2 Joel 3, Daniel 7 Daniel 11 daniel 12

I knew a woman who was extremely mean about Christians who believe in The Rapture. She was so hostile about it (and a few other things besides), that it surprised me, I guess.

Never forgot how vicious she was regarding the subject. I mean, I believe that there is definitely going to be The Rapture, but I also know that some people don't believe it and my love for them doesn't switch to hate upon hearing they don't believe it at this point in their walk.

At the time, I was also surprised by how many Christians apparently couldn't see her lack of love for many other Christians. It was strange! There was something really, really wrong with her, and it felt as if I was the only one that discerned these things. Anyway, I just stayed away from her...

Fast-forward a few years, and this women all of the sudden comes out as a full-out God hater now.

Matt 21 24 Mark 10 and about 1000 other scriptures as well

Look people nobody ever even heard of the Rapture until that Idiot Hale Lindsey..


Are you telling me every single biblical scholar on the face of the earth missed it?

Jesus always raged against the Pharisees; not once did he ever offer them peace or salvation. He did indeed speak out against them. And apparently you never read where Paul said things like "If anyone does not love the Lord, a curse upon them!" or "If anyone brings teaching of a different Jesus, let them be cursed!" You have to read the whole Bible, not just the parts you like.

So, you don't care if Jesus comes before the wrath of God rains down to punish the world? Paul said that "the crown of righteousness" will be given to those who "love His appearing"... not those who don't care.

I'm American, I go to the Greek and don't rely on translations (KJV was okay for its time), and I clearly see dispensations in scripture, which is why I don't think all of the Bible is all about me/us.

But yeah, there are a lot of people who think they're going to prove themselves and earn their salvation, which means they think Jesus didn't do enough.

People don't like it because its worse than leading ones brother off a cliff.. even it is done in ignorance.

Christ's own words..

"For, behold, the days are coming, in the which they shall say, Blessed are the barren, and the wombs that never bare, and the paps which never gave suck."

The context there is of a virgin who waits for her bridegroom. Now piece it together with just this.. although there are many, many other warnings from God that He is going to cast satan out to pose as God before Christ actually returns.

""And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.""

Satan is coming for the undisciplined.. those that leave their understanding and love for God in the hands of men whos teaching make void the Word of God.

""When any one heareth the word of the kingdom, and understandeth it not, then cometh the wicked one, and catcheth away that which was sown in his heart. This is he which received seed by the way side.""

There is not malice or discontent there. Only love for the truth.

Sad story, but it shows what hatred will do to a person. And there are a lot of people here claiming Christ yet hating fellow believers, especially on this topic. They think they're God's enforcers or something.

See the reason I see this 'rapture' is false and is that it is a way for you to believe that if YOU say you are 'saved' then you are rewarded by God Himself. The problem is, only God makes such a choice.

You have no more of a choice than an ant does in changing the winds of a hurricane.

Everyone of us is a sinner and is not worthy to enter into God's Kingdom. It is only by His grace that anyone has. By believing that you will automatically go to Heaven is saying that you know the Will of God...and that my friends is to make yourself 'like unto God'....and is by definition, blasphemy.

It is just my two cents and not meant to insult anyone. Not thread baiting or anything. Have a goodnight everyone and God Bless.

Yes, I agree Jesus confronted the religious leaders of His day, and condemned them. When the religious leaders had Him whipped and beaten, He didn't say a word. When He was on the cross and being taunted He forgave them.

If I have to live thru the wrath of God, then that will suck, but I trust in my Lord that it will be ok. It is thru suffering that we live in Christ. In the Bible almost every man of God suffered. With suffering we become weak and He becomes our strength. Honest people can debate endlessly about rapture, but who can talk about a deeper Life in Christ now?

Gods wisdom imparted in the mind and directly behind one's forehead is certainly enough to keep one from the "hour of temptation" and the associated three woes..

All right here while one's feet are firmly planted on the ground.

He is God after all.

""He is the Rock, his work is perfect: for all his ways are judgment: a God of truth and without iniquity, just and right is he.""

It will happen soon...........out of the blue

tisn't hatred by any means but just concern

as it stands the vast multitudes will not be delivered in the appointed hour

rather they shall be harvested out of season in spite of being duly warned in reference to such

leaving none to blame in truth, save themselves

He comes like a thief in the night because most will already think He is here while they are slumbering away in the wedding bed with satan having thought he was Christ.

Satan could literally be cast out at any moment looking like the lamb slain. Most likely the underpinnings of the first beast need a little more time to be put in place first though.. but world affairs are getting very close.

We are just waiting on God to arm with His truth the rest in these last generations alive today that HE expects to stand against satan and his angels.

Christ put it all down what would happen before He returned in Matthew 24, Mark 13, and Luke 21.

Death is one of satans names, and he is coming to deceive those undisciplined who think they should be "disciples" of Christ.

yet you are not they...

it holds true some are translated, some resurrected, each as the case may be

special circumstance with regard to His prophets at whatsoever time He sees fit

not ours to judge nor envy the lot of another

but to take heed to that which we've been given with reference to the generation of the Fig Tree, which we are all without doubt now in...

Christ did "forgive" anyone on the cross. The idea that Christ forgives those who do not repent of their sins is patently false.

Christ has not yet sat in the Judgement seat and certainly judgement did not happen on the cross, for anyone.

As for the rapture, I do not believe it, the "changing in the twinkling of an eye" happens after the plagues of Revelation, not before, as does the calling up of the Saints.

The rapture is a conveluted, defective misconception, but a relatively mild one when compared to the false teaching that Christ was somehow forgiving those who participated in His crucifixion without them seeking forgiveness for their sins.

Since you do not believe it, you do not want anyone to talk about it?

blasphemy 1:
These "pretrib-rapture" nutters refuse to be judged by God.....nope.....they judged themselves as "worthy".

blasphemy 2:
They laugh at the Muslims who believe they will go to heaven and get 72 virgins but at the same time think it is sane to float into the clouds to meet Jesus.

blasphemy 3:
The bible says it is not their concern as to when the end times will happen but yet that is all they obsess about 24/7 and refusing to do what their purpose is supposed to be "living good lives as an example to others".

blasphemy 4:
The rapture nutters are a very impatient lot. Instead of letting Jesus do things on his own time frame the nutters do everything to kick Jesus in the butt to get the rapture show on the road.


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the reason He told the one thief on the cross beside Him that He would "see him that very day in Paradise" was because that particular thief believed upon Christ as being the Son of the Living God, hence was saved through faith accordingly...

no baptism required, obviously

Thank you, we are save by grace.

Amen

; )

If such a Blessed Hope might even possibly be true,

that God saves His Elect, rescues His Bride,
the "church", the "ekklesia", the "called-out ones",
those called out of this world and into the Faith in Jesus Christ,

from the Wrath of God upon a world given entirely over to unrestrained evil
and which will literally worship evil incarnate,

then it is worth caring about.

And yet there should be no reason for any believer to refuse to be baptised.

The rapture is the catching up of Christians. The term itself has nothing to do with the timing. Did you mean to refer to a pre-tribulation rapture?

The interesting thing is that there are what seem like convincing arguments for a pre-tribulation rapture. The problem is that when I read the Bible myself without referring to commentaries, books, videos and sermons, I can't see it that way. I am sick to death of reading and hearing others' opinions (the videos are the worst).

I think that those who really care about the topic ought to set aside all the teaching they have received and study it intently on their own. When I said I can't see it that way, I am not necessarily ruling it out at this time. My study so far does not show a pre-tribulation rapture.

I don't know any non-pre tribulation believer to be a hater. They just don't agree with you and others who insist on this view. Why are you coming off like you are condemning people who don't see it that way? Yes, moral issues are black and white, but this topic is a little fuzzy. If God wanted it to be crystal clear to everyone he would have made it to be indisputable.

This topic is not essential to your Christian growth or your sharing of the Gospel. Spend more time on the Biblical things that matter far more than the timing of it all.

Are you a True Believer in Jesus Christ?