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New Obama Gun Rules Require Those Selling Even a Single Firearm to Become Licensed Dealers?

 
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New Obama Gun Rules Require Those Selling Even a Single Firearm to Become Licensed Dealers?
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The Obama administration announced during a conference call with reporters Monday evening that the president’s upcoming executive order may require somebody selling even a single firearm to obtain a Federal Firearms License.

During the call White House Press Secretary Josh Earnest, White House Senior Adviser Valerie Jarrett, and Attorney General Loretta Lynch explained the details of the order, which will be announced publicly by President Obama Tuesday at 11:40 a.m. The action, officials explained, would include guidance on how the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives will now determine who is “engaged in the business” of selling firearms under federal law and, therefore, who is required to obtain a license to sell firearms.

“ATF will make clear that whether you are ‘engaged in the business’ depends on the facts and circumstances,” Jarrett said. “On factors such as: whether you represent yourself as a dealer, such as making business cards or taking credit card statements. Whether you sell firearms shortly after they’re acquired or whether you buy or sell in the original packaging.”

“Numbers are relevant. The ATF and DOJ did not identify a magic number of weapons that makes you engaged in the business because that would limit their ability to bring prosecution.”


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See....they dont take the ammendment or the guns away...they just make it fuckin hard to get ine or sell one.

They did it in aus too nkt long before the big gun grab.

They will do it there as well.
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Reason 201 better to be A Canadian these days. Why do us Socialists not have these problems? We don't track the user or impose laws of that nature. Anyway hang on there.
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A way around the regulations, is to have all transactions(if your a private seller), through a gun dealership. Akin to how you have to take your car title to a notary/title and tag place, to transfer the deed.
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01/05/2016 07:01 AM
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Fuck Obama. Thus law did not get changed by congress who makes laws. Fuck his unlawful Executive bullshit order. I fucking will not comply with any regulation he passes because they will not stand constitutionally.
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I'm sure as easy as it is for Obama to creatively find a way around the constitution, others will find a way around his action, if someone wants to sell a gun, they don't sell it, they just come up with a prepaid 100 year rental agreement etc.
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[link to freebeacon.com]


The Obama administration announced during a conference call with reporters Monday evening that the president’s upcoming executive order may require somebody selling even a single firearm to obtain a Federal Firearms License.

During the call White House Press Secretary Josh Earnest, White House Senior Adviser Valerie Jarrett, and Attorney General Loretta Lynch explained the details of the order, which will be announced publicly by President Obama Tuesday at 11:40 a.m. The action, officials explained, would include guidance on how the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives will now determine who is “engaged in the business” of selling firearms under federal law and, therefore, who is required to obtain a license to sell firearms.

“ATF will make clear that whether you are ‘engaged in the business’ depends on the facts and circumstances,” Jarrett said. “On factors such as: whether you represent yourself as a dealer, such as making business cards or taking credit card statements. Whether you sell firearms shortly after they’re acquired or whether you buy or sell in the original packaging.”

“Numbers are relevant. The ATF and DOJ did not identify a magic number of weapons that makes you engaged in the business because that would limit their ability to bring prosecution.”


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PIN!! This will Be the thread of the day
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Yep that means you must become a licensed firearms dealer to sell any guns you own to anyone.
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A way around the regulations, is to have all transactions(if your a private seller), through a gun dealership. Akin to how you have to take your car title to a notary/title and tag place, to transfer the deed.
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A way around the regulation, since it is illegal, is to ignore it. If any of these XO's contradict already established written law, they are null and void. To accept the premise that they must be "gotten around" means you have already lost.
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New Obama Gun Rules Require Those Selling Even a Single Firearm to Become Licensed Dealers?

Um...

No...

The EO's do absolutely nothing other than restate current law...
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Yea this will really affect the people selling guns out of their vans.What kind of mental midget comes up with this shit and why in the fucking hell won't the Darwin effect work on them?
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Re: New Obama Gun Rules Require Those Selling Even a Single Firearm to Become Licensed Dealers?
Current federal law exempts private individuals who make "occasional" firearms sales from having to conduct background checks on the purchaser. Obviously, a single sale or several sales over the course of months or years would meet the legal definition of "occasional" in any federal court.

XO's are not laws and cannot compel any private citizen to do, or not do, anything. They can only dictate how federal agencies and officials enforce and interpret existing law. This will likely end up in federal court arguing over what constitutes an "occasional" gun sale.
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Nagga, please

Lets see the dumbass try to enforce it.

how is this fukin idiot still sucking air?
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Loophole......what if you trade guns? No cash exchanged.
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Fuck Obama. Thus law did not get changed by congress who makes laws. Fuck his unlawful Executive bullshit order. I fucking will not comply with any regulation he passes because they will not stand constitutionally.
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The Second Amendment might not stand, constitutionally.





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