Biblical 'Lake of Fire' is Actually a Portal to Moloch AKA... REINCARNATION!

I agree with that

100%

and I look forward to seeing

the voice calls you know that small voice

I am learning more these days from off the grid and learning more about the walk and the vib of universe

I never talked to the Father before this year

Yahuhsa installed a line and it got connected but I never picked up the phone

I love the idea that each moment each day it seems to get better - I have no point to make - I don't have to agree or be concerned about others agreeing or not

I do want folk like you to know that I only have great love coming to you - you are special in your passion for Yahshua

we know that Yahshua loves us and you know that Yahshua loves all of us

he reflects his creator as I know that he is the first fruit of the many - as our understanding of Jesus Christ as God in the flesh - the many are hurt if I would say Jesus Christ is not God in the flesh - of course he was to be seen as God Like coming to earth from heaven with the very spirit of Yah in him at birth

there can only be one point of origin

that single point is Yah the I am

out of the I am came Yahshua or what rome calls Jesus

Right, I understand what the Strong's states, but going back to my initial reply, its claims are not confirmed by the narrative. Jonah claims to have been in the fish "for ever" (olawm), but according to the story, just 3 days later he was out, safe, on dry land, and finally obeying what God wanted from the outset. Exodus 40:15 called the Levitical priesthood an "everlasting office" (again olawm), but this role is now obsolete and defunct, being replaced by the Melchizedek priesthood. Again, not actually everlasting or without end, despite the claims made by the texts. Functionally, olawm means "an undefined duration".

What verse states Jonah was in the whale forever???

The Levitical Preisthood has been temporarily suspended but is NOT obsolete and will go on forever. Malachi 3 proves this. The returning Yahshua will purge the Levites and animal sacrfices will once more happen at the Temple during the 1000 year reign according to Zechariah 14, and the final 4 chapters of Exekiel. Even in the New Heavens and Earth, the Levitical Priesthood will continue, under the authority of the Mechelzidek, but no more blood will be spilt at that point. Still, the Levitical Preisthood is olam, will last forever.

So, you still haven't made your point.

Last Edited by LoverofYahshua on 04/28/2016 10:33 PM

Hmm. . .How much further backwards do we want to go? A gold-plated barn hosting inert animal sacrifices was a mere illustration depicting actual spiritual processes for God's *real* temple, His people. No offense, but I wouldn't hold my breath expecting to see God re-implement such a program.

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The book of Leviticus is full of olawm statutes and directives (including chapter 16's yearly atonement ceremony which involves donning a particular costume in order to sanctify the people) which I guess constitute their eternal-but-currently-suspended practices? Honestly not trying to be asinine here, but this may need to be reconsidered.
(In my book, this falls into the same category as the ark of the covenant, which amounts to an abandoned crate that served its purpose as a visual aid. People "ooh" and "ahh" and speculate over the notion of locating this relic, as if it could somehow do anything for us that we don't already have in Christ Jesus.)

We may want to revisit the book of Hebrews and its elaboration on the ramifications of the new covenant upon the elements of the old, including the change in priesthood due to the termination of the old covenant.

(Tangentally, there's an interesting take on Zeke's temple here. . .remnantbride.com/Trinities/T-Part-8.htm )

Well, you are in for a big surprise then. Zechariah 14 would have to be ripped out of every Bible in order for your fantasy delusion and your theology to work. Sorry pal, but Jesus Himself said it is easier for heaven and earth to pass away than for one jot or tittle of the Torah to pass away.

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I would like you to think about this section you wrote...and then compare it with this section from John

John 8:42-47
Jesus said to them, “If God were your Father, you would love me, for I came from God and I am here. I came not of my own accord, but he sent me. Why do you not understand what I say? It is because you cannot bear to hear my word. You are of your father the devil, and your will is to do your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks out of his own character, for he is a liar and the father of lies. But because I tell the truth, you do not believe me. Which one of you convicts me of sin? If I tell the truth, why do you not believe me? Whoever is of God hears the words of God. The reason why you do not hear them is that you are not of God.

a snare and a racket unto you.

Ah, yes - you & I discussed this in a thread a couple weeks ago; you asserted that God does not love everyone, suggesting it hinges upon our stance towards Him, yes?

I have to ask, though: if we love Him because He first loved us (1 John 4), how can those who He allegedly *doesn't* love come to love Him, without His love initiating the relationship? Such an arrangement is a closed loop and they have no recourse.

He died for us while we were yet His enemies - we can't factor this out of the equation

the origin of sin as being part of the set-up of Adam

the woman given that came out of man

Adam story at it's core - Adam stayed with woman and walked away from Yah

the set-up

As in Adam all die


you walking today in the first Adam - what did you have to do with what Adam did - ?




in the second Adam - all live


you waking today in the second Adam - what did you have to do with what the second Adam did - ?

Since no one has even come close to debunking this thread, I'm going to have to pin it again.

This is not factual. You have been misinformed.

Salt, you said I had a "minor demon" which has really freaked me out. What do I do? Call russ dizdar?? I'm sure not calling a priest. I'm not being sarcastic.
Is that how common this is?

What the hell is this, mind blown.

Deception is unbecoming op.

Yeshua is Lord

Verses please.

"Jesus taught reincarnation.' Please show me where it is proven that Jesus taught reincarnation.

Bible easily debunks your thread, dude. I've proven this. Get your head out of the sand.

There is a link I want to post, but it's not getting trough the filter.

It has verse after verse to prove it all out... not a bunch of 'commentary' and 'opinions'.

Here is one...

Matthew 17:12-13
"But I say unto you, That Elias is come already, and they knew him not, but have done unto him whatsoever they listed. Likewise shall also the Son of man suffer of them"

"Then the disciples understood that he spake unto them of John the Baptist"

John 9:1-3
"And as Jesus passed by, he saw a man which was blind from his birth. And his disciples asked him, saying, Master, who did sin, this man, or his parents, that he was born blind? Jesus answered, Neither hath this man sinned, nor his parents: but that the works of God should be made manifest in him"

Notice that the question wasn't considered illogical to Jesus.

He could have rebuked them right then and there for assuming people commit sins in a past life... but he didn't.

He acted as if it were a perfectly normal assumption.

No It's Not!

Totally untrue.


What you say is false.



Fire is consuming.

Piece of paper burns and is no more.

God is The Consuming Fire.


The "Lake Of Fire" is the consumption
and the oblivion of one's Soul.

You burn up...no longer exist as if you've never exited at all.

Soul into oblivion.

It isn't tormented forever...as if
"Look!...There's uncle Charlie burning like a piece of bacon".


Nope...Lake Of Fire is final for souls not accepting Jesus Christ As Their
Saviour...Who Saves Them From The Fire!


You're Either On The Bus...
Or You're Off The Bus.

The part of us that has Memory, Character, Personality etc... is destroyed, yes.

However...

The part that remains goes through the fire to emerge into the Bosom of Moloch.

Leviticus 20:3
"And I will set my face against that man, and will cut him off from among his people; because he hath given of his seed unto Molech, to defile my sanctuary, and to profane my holy name"

What is the opposite of the Bosom of Abraham?

Luke 16:22
"And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried"

Word: Bosom
Strong's: 2859 Kolpos
Short Definition: bosom, bosom of a garment, a bay, gulf
Definition: The overhanging fold of the garment used as a pocket, a bay, gulf

Pockets of a Garment that is also used to describe a 'bay'... like a Lake.

Note that Moloch has seven 'pockets' in it's chest.

See for yourself...

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Think of the Masons and the 'Sign of the Master of the Second Veil' of the Tabernacle.

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(Not trying to hijack - you've been quite generous, OP, with these tangents)



I'm gonna go on record as pointing out that this is not actually so. . .In Luke 12, He sounds awfully eager for His fire to be kindled.

Here's how scripture itself defines God's fire:

"Our God is a consuming fire" - Hebrews 12 (an echo of Deuteronomy 4:24)

"Is not My word like fire?" - Jeremiah 23

He makes "His ministers a flame of fire" - Hebrews 1 (also Psalm 104)

fiery trials = sharing in the sufferings of Christ - 1 Peter 4

Israel's captivity in Egypt = "an iron furnace" - Deuteronomy 4:20, 1 Kings 8

A "fiery law" proceeded from God's right hand - Deuteronomy 33


>> It's not literal fire. It's symbolism for things which *function* like fire. <<


The "lake of fire" is an immersion in ^^ these ^^ things. A world governed by God's Kingdom. The "fiery law" mentioned in Deuteronomy 33 is further defined in Daniel 7:10 as a river originating from God's throne.

Isaiah 60 points out that the gates of new Jerusalem remain open for the purpose of bringing the kings and armies of the world *within*. The "lost" bathe in the "lake", outside the "city", only until they're ready to come into the "city" and become a citizen. Like those of us already serving God, this is largely just a matter of our "old self" dying ("the desire of the wicked shall perish" - Psalm 112).




Note that per Revelation 14, those cast into this "lake" are "in the presence of the Lamb". He Himself is likely the fire that purifies.

The only thing that it burns up is the old, corrupt nature and its debris. . .

Fire will expose and test each person's works. . ."if it is burned up, he will suffer loss; he himself will be saved, but only as one escaping through the flames" - 1 Corinthians 3

"By Mercy and Truth iniquity is purged". . .Proverbs 16

"The wicked will see it and be vexed, He will gnash his teeth and melt away; The *desire* of the wicked will perish" - Psalm 112

The glory of the Lord seemed like a consuming fire to the children of Israel - Exodus 24

It was by fire that He revealed His Law to them. Moses went right up to it, but the masses were afraid. . .
"For this great fire will consume us; if we hear the voice of the LORD our God anymore, then we shall die" - Deuteronomy 5

-->> Fire was equated with hearing His voice


In Zecharaiah 2:5, God promises to personally be a wall of fire around New Jerusalem. In both Isaiah 26 and 60, these walls are also said to consist of "salvation". Again Fire and Salvation go hand-in-hand.


The process of "fire" leaves us in ashes. . .a scriptural symbol of humility.

All through the Laws of Moses, fire is what made the offerings acceptable and pleasing to God.


After Israel defeated an enemy, all the gold, silver, brass, iron, tin and lead were to be purified by fire. . .
Paraphrased, "Everything that can withstand fire must go through fire, by which it shall be made clean. Any other materials which *cannot* withstand fire must be purified by water." - Numbers 31

1-star for a wacked out random interpretation.

Number tards are the worst kind of tards....well, except for the flat earth tards

FGS

Silver gate or the Gate of Man is to be found through the Bull's Horns.

At one death the soul is expelled through the Golden Gate in whatever heaven or hell bla bla underworld realm.
Then through the Silver gate is expelled from the underworld realm back into the world of man's reality.
Thus the Gate of Man aka Silver Gate and the Gate of Gods aka Golden Gate.
Tied with Milky Way, constellations and black holes.

U.M. you should watch the Book of Life movie... it shows how the hero faces the Bull and defeats it through... music, lol / sound... and so he can come back in man's world.
That's why i've pointed you to the Cow's Bell.
But i suppose you missed that.

:-)
Interesting lecture in this thread, nevertheless.