Why did Christopher Columbus claim that an ancient prophecy led him to discover America and establish the new world? | |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 191938 United Kingdom 02/06/2007 04:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Why did Christopher Columbus claim that an ancient prophecy led him to discover America and establish the new world? Did Christopher Columbus see himself on an apocalyptic mission? We tend to think of Christopher Columbus as an explorer, a discoverer. ... In reality, while that is all true, Columbus was also a man of his day, which meant that he was a man who took apocalyptic teachings, who took biblical passages very, very literally. And in fact, we have in his own autobiographical writings, toward the end of his life, and in his messages to Ferdinand and Isabella, proposing yet another great enterprise. This time it will be ... to restore the Holy Land as a fulfillment of prophecies in the Book of Isaiah and elsewhere of the end time events. ... He believed that gold from the New World could be used to finance this great crusade to the Middle East to regain Jerusalem. So in addition to everything else, Christopher Columbus is very much a prominent figure in the history of apocalyptic belief in Europe. ... I think Columbus very much did have a sense of millennial fulfillment, that from his voyages, from his discoveries, and ... what he saw as the capstone event of his career, which would be the final expedition to the Middle East, as a fulfillment of biblical prophecies that would lead to the millennium. Did Christopher Columbus see himself in apocalyptic terms? Christopher Columbus is often viewed as the hard headed navigator, a kind of modern man breaking with the past. But if we look at the history of Columbus and some of his writings, particularly his letters and in the Book of Prophecies that he put together, we can see that Columbus thought of himself very much in terms of the apocalyptic tradition. And he felt that his voyages of discovery were ushering in a millennial age, an age of a Last World Emperor, a Spanish Last World Emperor, who would recapture the holy apocalyptic city of Jerusalem and initiate a messianic period. And he had studied prophecies very, very carefully as he put together this Book of Prophecies, in order to sell his programme to Ferdinand and Isabella. And it's not that he was using this. He believed it. And he felt that they should believe it as well. ... He was not an original apocalypticist. His Book of Prophecies is a compilation of a whole range of prophesies, texts from the Old and the New Testament, along with more current prophesies. What he's trying to do is to create a kind of handbook of prophesies that he can use in his attempts to get new funding from Ferdinand and Isabella. One of the prophesies that he fastens upon is a prophecy of a coming last emperor who will reconquer Jerusalem, who is very specifically a Spanish ruler. And we know that he ascribes this prophecy to Joachim of Fiore, but Joachim didn't write it. It ... was actually a Spanish prophecy from the early 14th century. But Joachim's reputation as the medieval prophet was so large that of course many later prophesies and visions were ascribed to him in pseudonymous fashion. How does Jerusalem begin to figure into Columbus' discovery of the New World? Well, Columbus felt that he was able to go around the world to get to Jerusalem, and that going around the world to get to Jerusalem would allow and facilitate the conquest of Jerusalem by a Spanish Last World Emperor. The way to Jerusalem had been blocked by the Turks and others. But the gold that he felt he would discover in the Indies was the money that would be needed to mount the military expedition that would reconquer Jerusalem and, as I said, issue in a universal messianic rule in which Christianity would triumph under the leadership of a Spanish last monarch. ... [link to www.pbs.org] |
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The hard truth User ID: 192076 United States 02/06/2007 04:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Why did Christopher Columbus claim that an ancient prophecy led him to discover America and establish the new world? One of the more awake Pastors in America, who is hated by the blunk skulls, is Peter J. Peters. found at [link to www.scripturesforamerica.org] He has many FREE audio files that you may select from. They also speek to this subject, and many other truths, that these last days surgar coated TV preacher's would not and could not speak about, or they would loose their precious big bucks. Truth is the MOST REFRESHING sound, to an awake and non-selfesh, freedom loving man. Well Pete Peters is your guy, if you like Biblical Truth. Comment: Now on the above read, I also learned that WE the anglo americans along with many peoples and kidred's are IN FACT ISRAEL the people, that are no longer lost. Gentile = Nations and as it was used in The Bible it refered to the dispersal of the other 10 tribes, which The almighty God has never lost at all. The prophet Isaiah has much to say about Jacob, and Irael and Juda, decendents and tribes. Try reading Isaiah from the LXX or also know as the Septuagent. It is clearer, and then compare this to the Standard verion and the KJV. This Nation IS the prophesy, and out of this nation an awakening has begun, on Biblical scripture, I just wish the other hard truths about our fearless leaders and their motives would come to light quicker, for the sake of my fello Americans. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 191560 Canada 02/06/2007 04:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Why did Christopher Columbus claim that an ancient prophecy led him to discover America and establish the new world? Some one should'a made him stay home.. we didn't need some dumb white guy to floating all the way over here to tell us we exist. We should have sunk that boat when we had the chance. |
Little Star User ID: 24308 United States 02/06/2007 04:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Why did Christopher Columbus claim that an ancient prophecy led him to discover America and establish the new world? Anunnakies... they have all this planned Quoting: feruNOW THATS FUNNY! --------------------------------------------- OP, in America is Olgum writings on rocks. For a long time scholars thought those writings were just American Indian markings. Well, not true. Olgum writings are all over America and they belong to Levite priests that migrated to America long before or Chris-sy Col-bum-into America came along. blessings to all |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 191938 United Kingdom 02/06/2007 04:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Why did Christopher Columbus claim that an ancient prophecy led him to discover America and establish the new world? I also came across this but will just post a quote as there is too much to post here. "An end-times crusade To Columbus, all this was a sure sign of the end times. For years a prophecy had circulated that "the restorer of the House of Mt. Zion will come from Spain." For hundreds of years, the holy sites of Jerusalem had been held captive by the infidel Muslims. But according to ancient prophecy, that day would soon end. And Columbus believed he would be part of making it happen. Following St. Augustine's teaching, Columbus knew that all history fell into seven ages--and he was in the sixth, the next to last. Furthermore, Augustine had said that the world would end 7,000 years after its creation. That was a mere 155 years away, and much had to happen: all peoples of the world would convert to Christianity, the Holy Land would be rescued from the infidels, the Antichrist would come." [link to muweb.millersville.edu] |
mathetes User ID: 160832 United States 02/06/2007 04:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Why did Christopher Columbus claim that an ancient prophecy led him to discover America and establish the new world? Why was Columbus looking for a different route to China/India? The Muslims were blocking the overland routes, something not taught in PC schools For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in. |
XXX User ID: 276 United States 02/06/2007 05:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Why did Christopher Columbus claim that an ancient prophecy led him to discover America and establish the new world? Why was Columbus looking for a different route to China/India? The Moslems were blocking the the overland routes, something not taught in PC schools yes, since the conquest of Consantinople 1453, the Moslems had been draining the West of its wealth by imposing high prices for spices. A way had to be found to the East. or the West would become impoverished forever. The portugese found the route in 1498. One of their ships was later blown over to Brazil so the american continents would have been discovered even if Columbus never existed. The portugese discovery had incredibe import as it totally outflanked the Moslem world carrying the religious war to the untouched portions of Moslem world of the Indian Ocean littoral. The portugese intervention also saved the Xians of Ethiopia who were fighting in a three sided war with the Molsmes and Jews. If the Xians had controlled the spice trade, i bet they would bled the Molsems dry as well. That is your PC lesson for today. |
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mathetes User ID: 160832 United States 02/06/2007 05:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Why did Christopher Columbus claim that an ancient prophecy led him to discover America and establish the new world? Why was Columbus looking for a different route to China/India? The Moslems were blocking the the overland routes, something not taught in PC schools Quoting: XXX 276yes, since the conquest of Consantinople 1453, the Moslems had been draining the West of its wealth by imposing high prices for spices. A way had to be found to the East. or the West would become impoverished forever. The portugese found the route in 1498. One of their ships was later blown over to Brazil so the american continents would have been discovered even if Columbus never existed. The portugese discovery had incredibe import as it totally outflanked the Moslem world carrying the religious war to the untouched portions of Moslem world of the Indian Ocean littoral. The portugese intervention also saved the Xians of Ethiopia who were fighting in a three sided war with the Molsmes and Jews. If the Xians had controlled the spice trade, i bet they would bled the Molsems dry as well. That is your PC lesson for today. Thanks for sheding more light on my comment,well said! For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 192085 Switzerland 02/06/2007 05:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Why did Christopher Columbus claim that an ancient prophecy led him to discover America and establish the new world? Atlantis was explained by the End Times Prophet in 1999. And like the rest, six years later, it was echoed by nobody else... [link to www2.godlikeproductions.com] |