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What if aliens tested world govts and leaders to make humanity less evil in order to join the space society? Might explain the libertarian agenda

 
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What if aliens tested world govts and leaders to make humanity less evil in order to join the space society? Might explain the libertarian agenda
So in order to join the society of intelligent species in the Milky Way, or the Universe, we need to prove that humans won't be a menace to other species.
So this international UN tells the select few people they chose to interact with on Earth, prove that you're not just a bunch of apes and we might let you play with the big boys.

We've already set a VERY bad example, which was the US destroying Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Destroying empty towns in the Nevada desert should have been good enough. It didn't need to be tested out on populated cities. That probably put us on every black list that Space UN must have. Now we need to prove to them that we won't destroy ourselves or anyone else.

So maybe, our human leaders are pushing the libertarian ultra tolerance paradigm just to breed out the violence in us humans? Sure, it's a systemic dumbing down of the mass population. But at least they're not killing each other. Sure, all kinds of social norms are being overturned, but it could finally allow us to join the SPACE SOCIETY.

Just a thought I had about a possible solution to the Fermi paradox and why so many governments are acting in a certain way.
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So in order to join the society of intelligent species in the Milky Way, or the Universe, we need to prove that humans won't be a menace to other species.
So this international UN tells the select few people they chose to interact with on Earth, prove that you're not just a bunch of apes and we might let you play with the big boys.

We've already set a VERY bad example, which was the US destroying Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Destroying empty towns in the Nevada desert should have been good enough. It didn't need to be tested out on populated cities. That probably put us on every black list that Space UN must have. Now we need to prove to them that we won't destroy ourselves or anyone else.

So maybe, our human leaders are pushing the libertarian ultra tolerance paradigm just to breed out the violence in us humans? Sure, it's a systemic dumbing down of the mass population. But at least they're not killing each other. Sure, all kinds of social norms are being overturned, but it could finally allow us to join the SPACE SOCIETY.

Just a thought I had about a possible solution to the Fermi paradox and why so many governments are acting in a certain way.
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It is certainly a test but it is not orchestrated by so called 'aliens'.

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Re: What if aliens tested world govts and leaders to make humanity less evil in order to join the space society? Might explain the libertarian agenda
We can't (re)join space society til we reach a certain frequency.


The govts have no interest in this. Neither do religions. Because at this vibration the truth exists along with a truly empowered individual enlightened world. Our true potential as a people that makes this reality look like preschool. As this occurs their unlawful unruly and unjust over the world will become obsolete and that is all they care about. The true stewards of this world will reclaim guardianship over it making these people their role in this reality even more obsolete.


You can get a glimpse of the spiritual war going on that is going to get very real and public for all. What the light side is fighting for. What is at stake. EVERYTHING. That is divine about all of us that these fuc%ers want to continue to keep us away from just so they can call themselves leaders? Ha. It is a cosmic joke and they know it.
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Re: What if aliens tested world govts and leaders to make humanity less evil in order to join the space society? Might explain the libertarian agenda
Well if Jesus was alive today I'm pretty sure He would be a libertarian.
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Re: What if aliens tested world govts and leaders to make humanity less evil in order to join the space society? Might explain the libertarian agenda
Hmm. Well, for example, IDGAF what social societies in New York City think of me. I'm not in the least interested in hanging out with those "big boys" because I have absolutely zero in common with them, absolutely not interested in any aspect of their lives because they have zero to do with me. And I'm sure the feeling is mutual in every sense and aspect. However, I don't lose any sleep at night worrying about such irrelevant nonsense.

I'm certain I have even less in common with aliens who live a jillion light years from me. Consequently, IDGAF what they think of me, and they can shove their snobby "space societies" where the sun don't shine.

So, OP, how many social societies here on earth have you joined? You know, in preparation for this so-called space society you hope to one day join?
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There is no SPacey society. Earth is flat, get it through your god damn head
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Re: What if aliens tested world govts and leaders to make humanity less evil in order to join the space society? Might explain the libertarian agenda
OP if you think aliens exist, and they want to give us their technology, then I have a task for you.

Go buy a Samsung Galaxy S8 for $1000 when its released. Then take it to a zoo and toss it into a monkey cage. See what happens. Somehow I think you have more sense than to do something so absurd.

Now, knowing already that this is a completely absurd thing to do, do you really think aliens have any interest in traveling a jillion light years to give us their technology?
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Re: What if aliens tested world govts and leaders to make humanity less evil in order to join the space society? Might explain the libertarian agenda
Hmm. Well, for example, IDGAF what social societies in New York City think of me. I'm not in the least interested in hanging out with those "big boys" because I have absolutely zero in common with them, absolutely not interested in any aspect of their lives because they have zero to do with me. And I'm sure the feeling is mutual in every sense and aspect. However, I don't lose any sleep at night worrying about such irrelevant nonsense.

I'm certain I have even less in common with aliens who live a jillion light years from me. Consequently, IDGAF what they think of me, and they can shove their snobby "space societies" where the sun don't shine.

So, OP, how many social societies here on earth have you joined? You know, in preparation for this so-called space society you hope to one day join?
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You're making the mistake of anthropomorphizing. By their very definitions, aliens won't be anything like us humans. So you saying they're 'snobby' or whatever is pretty much nonsense.

OP if you think aliens exist, and they want to give us their technology, then I have a task for you.

Go buy a Samsung Galaxy S8 for $1000 when its released. Then take it to a zoo and toss it into a monkey cage. See what happens. Somehow I think you have more sense than to do something so absurd.

Now, knowing already that this is a completely absurd thing to do, do you really think aliens have any interest in traveling a jillion light years to give us their technology?
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Again, you're trying to give 'aliens' human attributes. And do you know about this little thing called 'learning'? I'm sure we, or our computers at the least, will be able to learn advanced physics and other areas of science, IF these aliens want us to have this technology. They might give us technology that's really millions of years old for them, but for us, it would be a tremendous breakthrough in various fields of science. And I didn't even mention them giving us technology.

My point was that maybe we won't be allowed to join other space-faring civilizations until we can prove that we're not barbaric and destructive apes. That we can rise above our animal natures and live in harmony with other species in the universe. Is that so hard to comprehend?
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Unless the aliens have tried living with some of our more retarded fellow humans.

Fuck off. We'll start our own space society.
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Unless the aliens have tried living with some of our more retarded fellow humans.

Fuck off. We'll start our own space society.
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I would wish you good luck with that, but I doubt that you have the ability to build an interstellar or even interplanetary spacecraft. Good luck with that in your dreams.
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Re: What if aliens tested world govts and leaders to make humanity less evil in order to join the space society? Might explain the libertarian agenda
Create less evil by utilizing the most evilest group around?


Yeah.. makes sense.
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Create less evil by utilizing the most evilest group around?


Yeah.. makes sense.
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Yeah it actually does make sense, if you use your head that is.
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Re: What if aliens tested world govts and leaders to make humanity less evil in order to join the space society? Might explain the libertarian agenda
Mankind is at it's crossroad. Either we "evolve" into a higher order which would be accepted into the Universal Community or we destroy ourselves. At this conjuncture most civilizations don't make the step forward and perish. Ever wonder why we don't openly have "aliens" walking among us? There are rules........
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Mankind is at it's crossroad. Either we "evolve" into a higher order which would be accepted into the Universal Community or we destroy ourselves. At this conjuncture most civilizations don't make the step forward and perish. Ever wonder why we don't openly have "aliens" walking among us? There are rules........
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I've thought along similar lines myself. Maybe the space UN has something similar to Star Trek's Prime Directive and don't interfere with developing species until they develop interstellar travel capability. It would be a piece of cake for an advanced enough civilization to put Earth under quarantine and prevent all signs of other life being detected from Earth or within our solar system. Maybe that's why we can't detect any other life, because we're being deliberately blinded to all such signs in the sky.

We need to evolve past our petty human nature, as a species as a whole.
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Unless the aliens have tried living with some of our more retarded fellow humans.

Fuck off. We'll start our own space society.
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I would wish you good luck with that, but I doubt that you have the ability to build an interstellar or even interplanetary spacecraft. Good luck with that in your dreams.
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We could all make stuff easier if Obamacare didnt steal our money
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Re: What if aliens tested world govts and leaders to make humanity less evil in order to join the space society? Might explain the libertarian agenda
Could also explain the push for a "One World Government"......

Aliens might be like "stop arguing over non-existent borders on your shitty little rock and you can join us"
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Re: What if aliens tested world govts and leaders to make humanity less evil in order to join the space society? Might explain the libertarian agenda
So in order to join the society of intelligent species in the Milky Way, or the Universe, we need to prove that humans won't be a menace to other species.
So this international UN tells the select few people they chose to interact with on Earth, prove that you're not just a bunch of apes and we might let you play with the big boys.

We've already set a VERY bad example, which was the US destroying Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Destroying empty towns in the Nevada desert should have been good enough. It didn't need to be tested out on populated cities. That probably put us on every black list that Space UN must have. Now we need to prove to them that we won't destroy ourselves or anyone else.

So maybe, our human leaders are pushing the libertarian ultra tolerance paradigm just to breed out the violence in us humans? Sure, it's a systemic dumbing down of the mass population. But at least they're not killing each other. Sure, all kinds of social norms are being overturned, but it could finally allow us to join the SPACE SOCIETY.

Just a thought I had about a possible solution to the Fermi paradox and why so many governments are acting in a certain way.
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How does having stark raving mad liberal lunatics in the streets make us look good to the SPACE SOCIETY?
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Fuck your aliens true humans where created superior to aliens that is why all the fallen angels where commanded to bow down before adam
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Fuck your aliens true humans where created superior to aliens that is why all the fallen angels where commanded to bow down before adam
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The aliens who run the galactic council are humans...
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So benevolent aliens know that we can't enjoy nice things without guidance. That makes Canada that dude's playground then? Sounds fantastic
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Fuck your aliens true humans where created superior to aliens that is why all the fallen angels where commanded to bow down before adam
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Lol... no.

So benevolent aliens know that we can't enjoy nice things without guidance. That makes Canada that dude's playground then? Sounds fantastic
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If you were part of a committee of different groups in your city, would you let a new group join the committee, if that group had a history of being savage and killing their own kind as well as numerous other species on their home ground? Would you hand them the technology that would make them capable of killing on a previously unimagined scale?

The simple answer is no.. you don't hand a loaded gun or a bomb to a spoiled and obnoxious toddler and expect the kid to behave and use that technology for good.

So yes, we could definitely use some guidance and restrictions, at least until we learn to behave like grown ups, instead of the animalistic savages we currently are.
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Re: What if aliens tested world govts and leaders to make humanity less evil in order to join the space society? Might explain the libertarian agenda
Mankind is at it's crossroad. Either we "evolve" into a higher order which would be accepted into the Universal Community or we destroy ourselves. At this conjuncture most civilizations don't make the step forward and perish. Ever wonder why we don't openly have "aliens" walking among us? There are rules........
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I've thought along similar lines myself. Maybe the space UN has something similar to Star Trek's Prime Directive and don't interfere with developing species until they develop interstellar travel capability. It would be a piece of cake for an advanced enough civilization to put Earth under quarantine and prevent all signs of other life being detected from Earth or within our solar system. Maybe that's why we can't detect any other life, because we're being deliberately blinded to all such signs in the sky.

We need to evolve past our petty human nature, as a species as a whole.
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Both of you simply regurgitate 100 years of science fiction media brainwashing.

God has become aliens to you guys thanks to these brainwashers who simply repeated ad naseum this "thinking"

There is no such thing as evolution.
The history of civilisation upon civilsation bears witness to man being corrupted by his wicked desires, repeatedly, time and time again. Our whole world's history is there for your learning yet you guys believe these crafty storytellers instead.

We de-evolve without God. When we choose to consider it no longer worthwhile to retain knowledge of Him, He gives our minds and bodies up to corruption, darkened thinking and acts that only lead to death.

There is what history shows us.

But you, swayed by crafty men, hold out for a false hope, for an alien saviour that they most certainly will hand you.
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Fuck your aliens true humans where created superior to aliens that is why all the fallen angels where commanded to bow down before adam
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Lol... no.

So benevolent aliens know that we can't enjoy nice things without guidance. That makes Canada that dude's playground then? Sounds fantastic
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If you were part of a committee of different groups in your city, would you let a new group join the committee, if that group had a history of being savage and killing their own kind as well as numerous other species on their home ground? Would you hand them the technology that would make them capable of killing on a previously unimagined scale?

The simple answer is no.. you don't hand a loaded gun or a bomb to a spoiled and obnoxious toddler and expect the kid to behave and use that technology for good.

So yes, we could definitely use some guidance and restrictions, at least until we learn to behave like grown ups, instead of the animalistic savages we currently are.
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So these "guidance and restrictions" as you so nicely phrase it....lets guess who you will actually be accepting: THE LIE,

By "guidance and restrictions" you mean a set of laws and commandments that all must abide by, don't you.? A new world order religion and dogma given to you by men, sold to you as "from aliens", when in reality it's not "from aliens" but from crafty men who lie and decive

Seriously, turn off all forms of media for they have already made you their convert
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Re: What if aliens tested world govts and leaders to make humanity less evil in order to join the space society? Might explain the libertarian agenda
Mankind is at it's crossroad. Either we "evolve" into a higher order which would be accepted into the Universal Community or we destroy ourselves. At this conjuncture most civilizations don't make the step forward and perish. Ever wonder why we don't openly have "aliens" walking among us? There are rules........
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74355214


I've thought along similar lines myself. Maybe the space UN has something similar to Star Trek's Prime Directive and don't interfere with developing species until they develop interstellar travel capability. It would be a piece of cake for an advanced enough civilization to put Earth under quarantine and prevent all signs of other life being detected from Earth or within our solar system. Maybe that's why we can't detect any other life, because we're being deliberately blinded to all such signs in the sky.

We need to evolve past our petty human nature, as a species as a whole.
 Quoting: spacenomad 5839681


Both of you simply regurgitate 100 years of science fiction media brainwashing.

God has become aliens to you guys thanks to these brainwashers who simply repeated ad naseum this "thinking"

There is no such thing as evolution.
The history of civilisation upon civilsation bears witness to man being corrupted by his wicked desires, repeatedly, time and time again. Our whole world's history is there for your learning yet you guys believe these crafty storytellers instead.

We de-evolve without God. When we choose to consider it no longer worthwhile to retain knowledge of Him, He gives our minds and bodies up to corruption, darkened thinking and acts that only lead to death.

There is what history shows us.

But you, swayed by crafty men, hold out for a false hope, for an alien saviour that they most certainly will hand you.
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Lol. I could say the same about you. You've been swayed by the not so crafty and poor storytellers who made up your man-made religion of christianity or islam or whatever else you believe in. They're not even good stories.

Aliens are not gods. Our history is humans being horrible to other humans. It's high time that we grew up.
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Fuck your aliens true humans where created superior to aliens that is why all the fallen angels where commanded to bow down before adam
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Lol... no.

So benevolent aliens know that we can't enjoy nice things without guidance. That makes Canada that dude's playground then? Sounds fantastic
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72248920


If you were part of a committee of different groups in your city, would you let a new group join the committee, if that group had a history of being savage and killing their own kind as well as numerous other species on their home ground? Would you hand them the technology that would make them capable of killing on a previously unimagined scale?

The simple answer is no.. you don't hand a loaded gun or a bomb to a spoiled and obnoxious toddler and expect the kid to behave and use that technology for good.

So yes, we could definitely use some guidance and restrictions, at least until we learn to behave like grown ups, instead of the animalistic savages we currently are.
 Quoting: spacenomad 73219663


So these "guidance and restrictions" as you so nicely phrase it....lets guess who you will actually be accepting: THE LIE,

By "guidance and restrictions" you mean a set of laws and commandments that all must abide by, don't you.? A new world order religion and dogma given to you by men, sold to you as "from aliens", when in reality it's not "from aliens" but from crafty men who lie and decive

Seriously, turn off all forms of media for they have already made you their convert
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You seem to be pretty brainwashed yourself. Don't be so scared of the possibility that your faith might be man made.

The idea that I presented in the OP isn't that far fetched. Yes, I have no way to prove it. But it isn't as bad and scary as you make it seem to be. Chill out
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Libertarians are less evil? Me thinks you are mad!
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World goverments dsnt make any decicions freely!
Its the 13 familys that own the world and give orders
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So in order to join the society of intelligent species in the Milky Way, or the Universe, we need to prove that humans won't be a menace to other species.
So this international UN tells the select few people they chose to interact with on Earth, prove that you're not just a bunch of apes and we might let you play with the big boys.

We've already set a VERY bad example, which was the US destroying Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Destroying empty towns in the Nevada desert should have been good enough. It didn't need to be tested out on populated cities. That probably put us on every black list that Space UN must have. Now we need to prove to them that we won't destroy ourselves or anyone else.

So maybe, our human leaders are pushing the libertarian ultra tolerance paradigm just to breed out the violence in us humans? Sure, it's a systemic dumbing down of the mass population. But at least they're not killing each other. Sure, all kinds of social norms are being overturned, but it could finally allow us to join the SPACE SOCIETY.

Just a thought I had about a possible solution to the Fermi paradox and why so many governments are acting in a certain way.
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It is certainly a test but it is not orchestrated by so called 'aliens'.

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We are not a simulation, this idea has come from the fact that certain people seem to know the future. Think the illuminati card game. If you know the future you can also control it. Also there is no aliens visiting us, I can't say they don't exist because I don't know, but they are very far away and we will never know. Certain people will eventually try to trick people claiming they have found life, or that life has found us, but this is all part of the game. You've gone down the wrong rabbit hole my friend. One more thing before I go, ask yourself why there is no talk of time travel anymore? Well time travel infers that people are traveling through time, to control the future all you need is information to travel through time. There is the rabbit hole you want to go down.
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Hmm. Well, for example, IDGAF what social societies in New York City think of me. I'm not in the least interested in hanging out with those "big boys" because I have absolutely zero in common with them, absolutely not interested in any aspect of their lives because they have zero to do with me. And I'm sure the feeling is mutual in every sense and aspect. However, I don't lose any sleep at night worrying about such irrelevant nonsense.

I'm certain I have even less in common with aliens who live a jillion light years from me. Consequently, IDGAF what they think of me, and they can shove their snobby "space societies" where the sun don't shine.

So, OP, how many social societies here on earth have you joined? You know, in preparation for this so-called space society you hope to one day join?
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You're making the mistake of anthropomorphizing. By their very definitions, aliens won't be anything like us humans. So you saying they're 'snobby' or whatever is pretty much nonsense.

OP if you think aliens exist, and they want to give us their technology, then I have a task for you.

Go buy a Samsung Galaxy S8 for $1000 when its released. Then take it to a zoo and toss it into a monkey cage. See what happens. Somehow I think you have more sense than to do something so absurd.

Now, knowing already that this is a completely absurd thing to do, do you really think aliens have any interest in traveling a jillion light years to give us their technology?
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Again, you're trying to give 'aliens' human attributes. And do you know about this little thing called 'learning'? I'm sure we, or our computers at the least, will be able to learn advanced physics and other areas of science, IF these aliens want us to have this technology. They might give us technology that's really millions of years old for them, but for us, it would be a tremendous breakthrough in various fields of science. And I didn't even mention them giving us technology.

My point was that maybe we won't be allowed to join other space-faring civilizations until we can prove that we're not barbaric and destructive apes. That we can rise above our animal natures and live in harmony with other species in the universe. Is that so hard to comprehend?
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