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Some ACTUAL proof about this flat earth nonsense

 
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Actually, no. I'm a pilot and I've never seen the curvature. But here's a simple yet powerful experiment anyone can do; especially, if you live on the coast and have land mass on the other side that you can see with binoculars or a telescope.

I'm retired in Mexico. From my beach house I can see the other side of Baja California. There is a mountain peak 1,200 ft in height. The distance between that mountain on the other side of the ocean is 82 miles.

Grab a calculator:

82 miles squared x 8 inches = 53,792 divided by 12 = 4,483.

4,483 minus 1,200 (mountain peak) = 3,283.

Science proves that the mountain peak should be hidden below 3,283 feet of curvature. It is impossible for me to see that from my vantage point if the earth is a ball.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61636882


FFS, Jethro...

You have to take into account the height of the mountain, not subtract it from the friggin total...

[link to dizzib.github.io (secure)]

Add the height of the mountain (1,200) to the height of your eyes on that calculator...
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I keep opening these threads from nitwits that claim to have "proof" the earth is flat, then they point to an article written by someone else or some picture taken by somebody 5,000 miles away and calling that "proof". I don't know if they are stupider for posting it or I am stupider for opening it, but anyway...

If you *really* think the earth is flat (or round for that matter), don't take anyone else's word for it, believe some math you can't understand, or trust a picture that could have been photoshoped. Just check for yourself.

I did.

You will need an iphone, a weather type hot air balloon, and some time. Just Google the parts if you can't figure it out from there.

Sent MY phone up into space with MY air balloon and saw the videos *I* created with my own eyes.

Spoiler alert - the earth is round.

But like I said, don't take my word for it. Go send up your own balloon and see for your damn self. Until you do that, stop posting your crap.

And THAT should be the end of THAT.
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Lies.
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Actually, no. I'm a pilot and I've never seen the curvature. But here's a simple yet powerful experiment anyone can do; especially, if you live on the coast and have land mass on the other side that you can see with binoculars or a telescope.

I'm retired in Mexico. From my beach house I can see the other side of Baja California. There is a mountain peak 1,200 ft in height. The distance between that mountain on the other side of the ocean is 82 miles.

Grab a calculator:

82 miles squared x 8 inches = 53,792 divided by 12 = 4,483.

4,483 minus 1,200 (mountain peak) = 3,283.

Science proves that the mountain peak should be hidden below 3,283 feet of curvature. It is impossible for me to see that from my vantage point if the earth is a ball.

I am trying to debunk flat earthers but either our planet is much much bigger than it is or it's not round.

Go with the evidence and not with the brainwashing and cognitive dissonance. There is no reason to insult if all you're doing is scientifically finding the truth.
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Because that is the correct mathematical formula:

Miles squared x 8 inches divided by 12 = Distance in feet.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61636882

Please calculate the curvature of Earth with your 8" formula for a distance of 12,500 miles.

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Actually, no. I'm a pilot and I've never seen the curvature. But here's a simple yet powerful experiment anyone can do; especially, if you live on the coast and have land mass on the other side that you can see with binoculars or a telescope.

I'm retired in Mexico. From my beach house I can see the other side of Baja California. There is a mountain peak 1,200 ft in height. The distance between that mountain on the other side of the ocean is 82 miles.

Grab a calculator:

82 miles squared x 8 inches = 53,792 divided by 12 = 4,483.

4,483 minus 1,200 (mountain peak) = 3,283.

Science proves that the mountain peak should be hidden below 3,283 feet of curvature. It is impossible for me to see that from my vantage point if the earth is a ball.

I am trying to debunk flat earthers but either our planet is much much bigger than it is or it's not round.

Go with the evidence and not with the brainwashing and cognitive dissonance. There is no reason to insult if all you're doing is scientifically finding the truth.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61636882


your maths are all sort of no
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Assuming his observation is at sea level plus his height his math is correct.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71642279

Yes, beach house = sea level.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61636882

I see: The floor of the house is just some millimeters above the water and you made the observation lying on the floor.
Even under this conditions it's still about one foot above sea level - not at sea level.

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I keep opening these threads from nitwits that claim to have "proof" the earth is flat, then they point to an article written by someone else or some picture taken by somebody 5,000 miles away and calling that "proof". I don't know if they are stupider for posting it or I am stupider for opening it, but anyway...

If you *really* think the earth is flat (or round for that matter), don't take anyone else's word for it, believe some math you can't understand, or trust a picture that could have been photoshoped. Just check for yourself.

I did.

You will need an iphone, a weather type hot air balloon, and some time. Just Google the parts if you can't figure it out from there.

Sent MY phone up into space with MY air balloon and saw the videos *I* created with my own eyes.

Spoiler alert - the earth is round.

But like I said, don't take my word for it. Go send up your own balloon and see for your damn self. Until you do that, stop posting your crap.

And THAT should be the end of THAT.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74808618

People have done this up to 80 k ft and higher.

It's shown to still be flat that high up.
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If the camera shows a curvature, the flat earthers claim that it's a fisheye lens.
If the same camera shows no curvature, the flat earthers claim that it's proof for the flat earth.

Flat earthers are really funny.

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Hit and run OP
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Because I was away from my computer for a few hours?

Re: items needed

There are several ways to do this, and we were certainly not the first. I believe these guys were:

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

I can't post the specifics as to what we used. See below as to why.

Re: pics

No I can't post any, and that would defeat the purpose anyway. The results of this project are someone else's intellectual property and I can't post and pics or vids. Actually, I don't think the owners would actually care but some of the sleuths here may be able to use the pics to connect me to the project and figure out who I am. On a professional level I really don't want to be associated with this site. No offense.

If you want to try it like I said just Google it and you'll find detailed info from some of the others that have done it as well. bear in mind that if you do this in the US (we didn't) you are supposed to let the FAA know.
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Hit and run OP
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Because I was away from my computer for a few hours?

Re: items needed

There are several ways to do this, and we were certainly not the first. I believe these guys were:

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

I can't post the specifics as to what we used. See below as to why.

Re: pics

No I can't post any, and that would defeat the purpose anyway. The results of this project are someone else's intellectual property and I can't post and pics or vids. Actually, I don't think the owners would actually care but some of the sleuths here may be able to use the pics to connect me to the project and figure out who I am. On a professional level I really don't want to be associated with this site. No offense.

If you want to try it like I said just Google it and you'll find detailed info from some of the others that have done it as well. bear in mind that if you do this in the US (we didn't) you are supposed to let the FAA know.
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Oops, wrong link. I think these were the first:
[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
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5 stars OP! But they won't believe you......they will call you a "shill" or whatever because they have "discovered" this incredible secret........lol.

It's beyond ridiculous......and when you tell them it's ridiculous they get all upset and leave you nasty comments.

Foolishness.
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Pics please
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Actually, no. I'm a pilot and I've never seen the curvature. But here's a simple yet powerful experiment anyone can do; especially, if you live on the coast and have land mass on the other side that you can see with binoculars or a telescope.

I'm retired in Mexico. From my beach house I can see the other side of Baja California. There is a mountain peak 1,200 ft in height. The distance between that mountain on the other side of the ocean is 82 miles.

Grab a calculator:

82 miles squared x 8 inches = 53,792 divided by 12 = 4,483.

4,483 minus 1,200 (mountain peak) = 3,283.

Science proves that the mountain peak should be hidden below 3,283 feet of curvature. It is impossible for me to see that from my vantage point if the earth is a ball.

I am trying to debunk flat earthers but either our planet is much much bigger than it is or it's not round.

Go with the evidence and not with the brainwashing and cognitive dissonance. There is no reason to insult if all you're doing is scientifically finding the truth.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61636882

Because that is the correct mathematical formula:

Miles squared x 8 inches divided by 12 = Distance in feet.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61636882

Please calculate the curvature of Earth with your 8" formula for a distance of 12,500 miles.

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It's a over 19,000 miles schwulsache
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Actually, no. I'm a pilot and I've never seen the curvature. But here's a simple yet powerful experiment anyone can do; especially, if you live on the coast and have land mass on the other side that you can see with binoculars or a telescope.

I'm retired in Mexico. From my beach house I can see the other side of Baja California. There is a mountain peak 1,200 ft in height. The distance between that mountain on the other side of the ocean is 82 miles.

Grab a calculator:

82 miles squared x 8 inches = 53,792 divided by 12 = 4,483.

4,483 minus 1,200 (mountain peak) = 3,283.

Science proves that the mountain peak should be hidden below 3,283 feet of curvature. It is impossible for me to see that from my vantage point if the earth is a ball.

I am trying to debunk flat earthers but either our planet is much much bigger than it is or it's not round.

Go with the evidence and not with the brainwashing and cognitive dissonance. There is no reason to insult if all you're doing is scientifically finding the truth.
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Could you explain why you "squared" the miles and then multiplied by 8 inches?
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8 inches... but then the next drop is already starting out on a down curve... and by the time you get 1/4 way around the planet, your mile is a negative rise with no run and therefore it dont drop 8 inches per mile, but each successive mile has more drop.

by the time you drop 1/8 of the way around the circumference, you have the same negative rise as run.
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Let me help you out visually so you can see where you're wrong.
Draw a star of david(one triangle then another on top of it upside down) then draw a line connecting the points together. Then draw a man on top of each point. mark the distance between them 8in.
The man on top call him #1
The man to his right #2
The man to his left #3
Now when you look at the picture man number 3 is not 16 inches below man number 2 the are equal with each other.
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Actually, no. I'm a pilot and I've never seen the curvature. But here's a simple yet powerful experiment anyone can do; especially, if you live on the coast and have land mass on the other side that you can see with binoculars or a telescope.

I'm retired in Mexico. From my beach house I can see the other side of Baja California. There is a mountain peak 1,200 ft in height. The distance between that mountain on the other side of the ocean is 82 miles.

Grab a calculator:

82 miles squared x 8 inches = 53,792 divided by 12 = 4,483.

4,483 minus 1,200 (mountain peak) = 3,283.

Science proves that the mountain peak should be hidden below 3,283 feet of curvature. It is impossible for me to see that from my vantage point if the earth is a ball.

I am trying to debunk flat earthers but either our planet is much much bigger than it is or it's not round.

Go with the evidence and not with the brainwashing and cognitive dissonance. There is no reason to insult if all you're doing is scientifically finding the truth.
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your maths are all sort of no
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I think you ought to shoot the elevation in degrees and use trigonometry to do the math and prove the apparent height is in error.
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Re: Some ACTUAL proof about this flat earth nonsense
So where is this proof that it isn't flat??
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would going to the the top of some of the taller building in the world be high enough to see the curvature of the earth?
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Yes. Trump tower is 40,000 ft tall.
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then compare the sunrise from the bottom of the tower of babel,to the top.
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I can make it flat and round at the same time, see it a half round, flat on top, round bottom, and the top is covered with a dome so, it makes up the round earth! tounge

You can not prove I am wrong because no one knows that is for sure. :) I am joking
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Actually, no. I'm a pilot and I've never seen the curvature. But here's a simple yet powerful experiment anyone can do; especially, if you live on the coast and have land mass on the other side that you can see with binoculars or a telescope.

I'm retired in Mexico. From my beach house I can see the other side of Baja California. There is a mountain peak 1,200 ft in height. The distance between that mountain on the other side of the ocean is 82 miles.

Grab a calculator:

82 miles squared x 8 inches = 53,792 divided by 12 = 4,483.

4,483 minus 1,200 (mountain peak) = 3,283.

Science proves that the mountain peak should be hidden below 3,283 feet of curvature. It is impossible for me to see that from my vantage point if the earth is a ball.

I am trying to debunk flat earthers but either our planet is much much bigger than it is or it's not round.

Go with the evidence and not with the brainwashing and cognitive dissonance. There is no reason to insult if all you're doing is scientifically finding the truth.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61636882

Because that is the correct mathematical formula:

Miles squared x 8 inches divided by 12 = Distance in feet.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61636882

Please calculate the curvature of Earth with your 8" formula for a distance of 12,500 miles.
 Quoting: Hydra

It's a over 19,000 miles schwulsache
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73583393

How do you get a drop of over 19,000 miles on a globe that has a diameter of just 7.917.5 miles?
It seems that the 8" formula isn't quite accurate.

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This was posted on another thread the other day, but I couldn't find the thread. Watch these two and realize just how stupid the Flat Earth idea is. Please ignore the religion mockery in it and just watch for the flat earth debunking




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your maths are all sort of no
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Assuming his observation is at sea level plus his height his math is correct.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71642279

Yes, beach house = sea level.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61636882

I see: The floor of the house is just some millimeters above the water and you made the observation lying on the floor.
Even under this conditions it's still about one foot above sea level - not at sea level.

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I was actually at sea level with my feet wet on the ocean.
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Your phones lens adds distortion

So much for that

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Hit and run OP
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Because I was away from my computer for a few hours?

Re: items needed

There are several ways to do this, and we were certainly not the first. I believe these guys were:

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

I can't post the specifics as to what we used. See below as to why.

Re: pics

No I can't post any, and that would defeat the purpose anyway. The results of this project are someone else's intellectual property and I can't post and pics or vids. Actually, I don't think the owners would actually care but some of the sleuths here may be able to use the pics to connect me to the project and figure out who I am. On a professional level I really don't want to be associated with this site. No offense.

If you want to try it like I said just Google it and you'll find detailed info from some of the others that have done it as well. bear in mind that if you do this in the US (we didn't) you are supposed to let the FAA know.
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bsmeter

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Actually, no. I'm a pilot and I've never seen the curvature. But here's a simple yet powerful experiment anyone can do; especially, if you live on the coast and have land mass on the other side that you can see with binoculars or a telescope.

I'm retired in Mexico. From my beach house I can see the other side of Baja California. There is a mountain peak 1,200 ft in height. The distance between that mountain on the other side of the ocean is 82 miles.

Grab a calculator:

82 miles squared x 8 inches = 53,792 divided by 12 = 4,483.

4,483 minus 1,200 (mountain peak) = 3,283.

Science proves that the mountain peak should be hidden below 3,283 feet of curvature. It is impossible for me to see that from my vantage point if the earth is a ball.

I am trying to debunk flat earthers but either our planet is much much bigger than it is or it's not round.

Go with the evidence and not with the brainwashing and cognitive dissonance. There is no reason to insult if all you're doing is scientifically finding the truth.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61636882

Because that is the correct mathematical formula:

Miles squared x 8 inches divided by 12 = Distance in feet.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61636882

Please calculate the curvature of Earth with your 8" formula for a distance of 12,500 miles.
 Quoting: Hydra

It's a over 19,000 miles schwulsache
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73583393

How do you get a drop of over 19,000 miles on a globe that has a diameter of just 7.917.5 miles?
It seems that the 8" formula isn't quite accurate.

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Take it p with Pythagoras asshat.
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Actually, no. I'm a pilot and I've never seen the curvature. But here's a simple yet powerful experiment anyone can do; especially, if you live on the coast and have land mass on the other side that you can see with binoculars or a telescope.

I'm retired in Mexico. From my beach house I can see the other side of Baja California. There is a mountain peak 1,200 ft in height. The distance between that mountain on the other side of the ocean is 82 miles.

Grab a calculator:

82 miles squared x 8 inches = 53,792 divided by 12 = 4,483.

4,483 minus 1,200 (mountain peak) = 3,283.

Science proves that the mountain peak should be hidden below 3,283 feet of curvature. It is impossible for me to see that from my vantage point if the earth is a ball.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61636882


FFS, Jethro...

You have to take into account the height of the mountain, not subtract it from the friggin total...

[link to dizzib.github.io (secure)]

Add the height of the mountain (1,200) to the height of your eyes on that calculator...
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I'm wondering if the mountain isn't 1,200 meters, that would be 3937.008 feet.

1,200 feet isn't really a mountain, 1,200 meters is on the lower end of a mountain peak.
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Yes, beach house = sea level.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61636882

I see: The floor of the house is just some millimeters above the water and you made the observation lying on the floor.
Even under this conditions it's still about one foot above sea level - not at sea level.
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I was actually at sea level with my feet wet on the ocean.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61636882

Unless your head wasn't wet too, it's still not sea level.

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Please calculate the curvature of Earth with your 8" formula for a distance of 12,500 miles.
 Quoting: Hydra

It's a over 19,000 miles schwulsache
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73583393

How do you get a drop of over 19,000 miles on a globe that has a diameter of just 7.917.5 miles?
It seems that the 8" formula isn't quite accurate.
 Quoting: Hydra

Take it p with Pythagoras asshat.
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Resorting to insults? No arguments left?

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Actually, no. I'm a pilot and I've never seen the curvature. But here's a simple yet powerful experiment anyone can do; especially, if you live on the coast and have land mass on the other side that you can see with binoculars or a telescope.

I'm retired in Mexico. From my beach house I can see the other side of Baja California. There is a mountain peak 1,200 ft in height. The distance between that mountain on the other side of the ocean is 82 miles.

Grab a calculator:

82 miles squared x 8 inches = 53,792 divided by 12 = 4,483.

4,483 minus 1,200 (mountain peak) = 3,283.

Science proves that the mountain peak should be hidden below 3,283 feet of curvature. It is impossible for me to see that from my vantage point if the earth is a ball.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61636882


FFS, Jethro...

You have to take into account the height of the mountain, not subtract it from the friggin total...

[link to dizzib.github.io (secure)]

Add the height of the mountain (1,200) to the height of your eyes on that calculator...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74826369


I'm wondering if the mountain isn't 1,200 meters, that would be 3937.008 feet.

1,200 feet isn't really a mountain, 1,200 meters is on the lower end of a mountain peak.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74832753

Highest mountain in Baja California is more than 2200 meters.

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Yesterday there was an iphone falling from the sky ...





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