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ZAPAD 17 The Biggest Russian Mobilization Since the Cold War has started.

 
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What is Zapad 17

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"Zapad 2017 (Russian: «Запад-2017», Belarusian: Захад-2017) is a planned joint strategic military exercise of the armed forces of the Russian Federation and Belarus (the Union State) scheduled for 14—20 September 2017, to be held in Belarus as well as in Russia's Kaliningrad Oblast and other north-western areas. According to the information made public by the Defence Ministry of Belarus prior to the exercise,[1][2] fewer than 13,000 personnel of the Union State are to take part in the military maneuvers, a number that does not trigger mandatory formal notification and invitation of observers under the OSCE's Vienna Document.[3] Western analysts, however, believed in July 2017 that the total number of Russian troops, security personnel and civilian officials to be involved in the broader war-games will range from 60,000 to 100,000,[4] which would make them Russia's largest since the Cold War.[5] "

[link to www.defenseone.com]

"Large-scale military exercises are never “just” military exercises. They are always also ways to show off, communicate, and develop the fighting power of national or alliance-wide armed forces. In the current security situation in the Baltic region, Zapad-17 sends a clear message: Russia has massive conventional military power and is ready to use it."

[link to websdr.ewi.utwente.nl:8901]

Might hear some interesting EAMS, already some long character messages went out (tune to 11175 or 8992 usb)
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Site for monitoring military aircraft

[link to global.adsbexchange.com (secure)]

Go to menu/options/filters enable and choose miltary.

Swedes and brits buzzing in the baltic.

[link to carnegieeurope.eu]

"Until now, the Kremlin has generally been believed to have manned only two principal bases in Belarus. But in order to execute Zapad-17, Russia has been expanding its military infrastructure in Belarus. If, in the aftermath of the exercise, Moscow opts to make these additional military installations permanent, the overall strategic equation along NATO’s Eastern flank will be further undermined."

This could be a way to increase defense and attack capability in a semi-stealthy way by having troops and armor stay after the deployment.
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A youtube video with intellectuals talking about implications and possible outcomes of zapad.

Just watching myself so no idea about quality.
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3 VDV divisions, 4 motor rifle and 1 tank brigade + air force assets now confirmed to join Zapad.

So thats 3 divisions of Russian Airborne troops. A lot of bodies and armor moving around.
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2 GLF4 Korpen Swedish Sigint currently flying the west baltic.

Big ole boeing Sentry circling above Germany.

Zapad occurs every 4 years.
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Article from bbc:

"Nato has deployed four battalion-size battlegroups - 4,530 troops in total - to Poland, Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania, which border on Belarus and Russia.

The 29-nation Western alliance also has an air-policing mission over the Baltic republics."

Lot of people and equipment in the area.

Lets hope nobody messes up.
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Forgot link

[link to www.bbc.com]
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BFD
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Putin's war with the Baltic states is going to cost a lot and Russians contribute with their savings.
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Thread: Kremlin claims the West is so freaked about Zapad 2017, they offered to let Russia back into the G8 if they cancelled the exercises.
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fewer than 13,000 personnel
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Oooo, scary.
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fewer than 13,000 personnel
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Oooo, scary.
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It's actually 240,000. They only admit to 13,000 to stay under treaty limits.
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