Deutsche Bank MELTDOWN as Central Banks Unable to Bail Out WORLD’S BIGGEST Derivatives Portfolio | |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 30194358 United States 02/20/2018 01:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Deutsche Bank MELTDOWN as Central Banks Unable to Bail Out WORLD’S BIGGEST Derivatives Portfolio You're confusing notional value of the derivatives with the actual value of the instrument. It's a fallacy that derivatives are really worth what they claim to be worth. No one actually calls them in. They just buy and sell them for their exchange value. Not really, they are used primarily to increase leverage above and beyond all regulatory limits. That's why they are exchanged under the counter, they are not regulated. So when you get a serious problem that develops, like Lehman or Bear Stearns, then liquidity freezes up, because they've all been making loans to one another above and beyond legal or regulatory limits. It would be an easy matter for governments to just ban them outright, marking the notional value to zero, but then everything would just freeze up. Since credit requires constant payment streams a frozen bank is like a blocked artery in your body and you suffer a cardiac arrest. Derivatives basically linked all the commercial banks of the world into a web, it allowed for further credit expansion at the risk of catastrophic failure, meaning liquidity freezes. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 30194358 United States 02/20/2018 01:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Deutsche Bank MELTDOWN as Central Banks Unable to Bail Out WORLD’S BIGGEST Derivatives Portfolio You're confusing notional value of the derivatives with the actual value of the instrument. It's a fallacy that derivatives are really worth what they claim to be worth. No one actually calls them in. They just buy and sell them for their exchange value. Not really, they are used primarily to increase leverage above and beyond all regulatory limits. That's why they are exchanged under the counter, they are not regulated. So when you get a serious problem that develops, like Lehman or Bear Stearns, then liquidity freezes up, because they've all been making loans to one another above and beyond legal or regulatory limits. It would be an easy matter for governments to just ban them outright, marking the notional value to zero, but then everything would just freeze up. Since credit requires constant payment streams a frozen bank is like a blocked artery in your body and you suffer a cardiac arrest. Derivatives basically linked all the commercial banks of the world into a web, it allowed for further credit expansion at the risk of catastrophic failure, meaning liquidity freezes. So let's say that governments don't ban them, then the derivatives force monetization of the loans that banks have made outside regulatory limits. That's when the CBs start buying these products, like the fed bought $2 trillion in mortgage backed securities to prevent a collapse of the system. That means the payment streams that were moving around, maintaining 'solvency' and liquidity are provided by the central banks, monetizing the derivatives. So if DB blows up, and the central bank of Germany doesn't force them into bankruptcy, with associated counter party risk (all other banks relying on payment streams from DB), then they will monetize all their affected derivatives to keep the system working. This is probably how the fiat currency system will implode into hyper-inflation. |
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