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Anonymous Coward User ID: 76095402 United States 03/07/2018 09:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: NONE of these liberal immigration nightmares would be happening today if the US had left Europe after WWII. How about if the US had stayed out of WWII all together? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75561778 And let Germany deal with the communists by themselves? Or allied with Germany to fight the communists? because america is a foot solider of the central banks, the only reason ww1 and 2 happened was to get america in the fight, so down the road we could fight russia and while we both kill eachother china would take over, this plan has been going on for centuries, the wrd private central bank was created in dec 23 1913 and only a few years later the sotck market crashed and everyone was at war, u guys think u have a choice in this matter, u dont, these central banking monarchy familys that have been around centuries have been planning everything for generation |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 27690441 United States 03/07/2018 09:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: NONE of these liberal immigration nightmares would be happening today if the US had left Europe after WWII. How about if the US had stayed out of WWII all together? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75561778 And let Germany deal with the communists by themselves? Or allied with Germany to fight the communists? Hitler was to crazy and attacked everyone. Hitlers attack on Russia is what drew Stalin into Eastern Europe in the first place. Russia would have just solved its own internal problems if not for Hitler. The US had to save England and France but it did not have to stay in Europe for 70 years afterward. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76095402 United States 03/07/2018 09:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: NONE of these liberal immigration nightmares would be happening today if the US had left Europe after WWII. How about if the US had stayed out of WWII all together? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75561778 And let Germany deal with the communists by themselves? Or allied with Germany to fight the communists? Hitler was to crazy and attacked everyone. Hitlers attack on Russia is what drew Stalin into Eastern Europe in the first place. Russia would have just solved its own internal problems if not for Hitler. The US had to save England and France but it did not have to stay in Europe for 70 years afterward. bull shit hitler was paid by the same central banks that paid for the american and russian side, the best way to win a war is to play both sides, america didnt have to save anyone, our job was to destroy europe and have europe get in debt to us so they can have central banks put i nthere countries so the central bankers could own them with debt/usery, they have been doing this for centuries |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 27690441 United States 03/07/2018 10:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: NONE of these liberal immigration nightmares would be happening today if the US had left Europe after WWII. How about if the US had stayed out of WWII all together? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75561778 And let Germany deal with the communists by themselves? Or allied with Germany to fight the communists? Hitler was to crazy and attacked everyone. Hitlers attack on Russia is what drew Stalin into Eastern Europe in the first place. Russia would have just solved its own internal problems if not for Hitler. The US had to save England and France but it did not have to stay in Europe for 70 years afterward. bull shit hitler was paid by the same central banks that paid for the american and russian side, the best way to win a war is to play both sides, america didnt have to save anyone, our job was to destroy europe and have europe get in debt to us so they can have central banks put i nthere countries so the central bankers could own them with debt/usery, they have been doing this for centuries Except that Socialists and Communists hate banks and bankers. The USSR did not make bankers rich. The Socialist Europe of today is not beneficial to bankers. Neither is hoards of low paid invaders. |
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zzcat User ID: 34283005 United States 03/08/2018 12:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: NONE of these liberal immigration nightmares would be happening today if the US had left Europe after WWII. Europeans would have had to learn to defend themselves from invaders. The liberal Socialists could never have become so powerful because their budgets would not have allowed all the government programs along with paying for defense. Europeans would have never developed the government dependency and helpless attitudes that we now see when trying to deal with invaders. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27690441 All of those extra US troops would have been stationed inside the US and would have been used to prevent our own invasion from mexico. Having that many more troops stationed in the country would have prompted some politician to advocate using them on the border long ago. The US needs to get out of Europe IMMEDIATELY and should have done it 70 years ago. The unexpected side effects of endless occupation are proving to be disastrous for everyone involved. ^^^This George Washington in his farewell address warned us to stay out of Europe and their entanglements. He said they are fighting centuries old wars and arguments that we will never understand and do not need to be sucked into. I'm paraphrasing a little of course, but that was the gist of it zzcat who says Schrodinger's cat is even in the box |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 27690441 United States 03/08/2018 12:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: NONE of these liberal immigration nightmares would be happening today if the US had left Europe after WWII. Europeans would have had to learn to defend themselves from invaders. The liberal Socialists could never have become so powerful because their budgets would not have allowed all the government programs along with paying for defense. Europeans would have never developed the government dependency and helpless attitudes that we now see when trying to deal with invaders. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27690441 All of those extra US troops would have been stationed inside the US and would have been used to prevent our own invasion from mexico. Having that many more troops stationed in the country would have prompted some politician to advocate using them on the border long ago. The US needs to get out of Europe IMMEDIATELY and should have done it 70 years ago. The unexpected side effects of endless occupation are proving to be disastrous for everyone involved. ^^^This George Washington in his farewell address warned us to stay out of Europe and their entanglements. He said they are fighting centuries old wars and arguments that we will never understand and do not need to be sucked into. I'm paraphrasing a little of course, but that was the gist of it Very good advice and he certainly would not have approved a 70 year occupation. Look at all the problems it is causing today. Two whole generations of Europeans have no idea that they are supposed to defend themselves and their countries from invasions. |
Educated Redneck User ID: 69010652 United States 03/08/2018 02:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: NONE of these liberal immigration nightmares would be happening today if the US had left Europe after WWII. How about if the US had stayed out of WWII all together? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75561778 And let Germany deal with the communists by themselves? Or allied with Germany to fight the communists? The people of the US weren't interested in getting into another war in Europe. But after the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor that dummkopf named Adolf Hitler declared war on the USA! That's right, if you are looking for someone to blame for the US entry into WWII Europe you only have to look at the stupid little shit with the funny mustache. On December 11, 1941 at the same time the German army was losing the Battle of Moscow Adolf Hitler declared war on the US. He didn't have to as his pact with Japan only said that if Japan was attacked Germany would come to their defense. And since Japan was the attacker Germany had no obligation to declare war on the US. Heck, the US would have been focused on the Pacific as the American people still didn't want to get into the war in Europe and there were strong anti-communist feelings in the US. But as we all know Hitler was an idiot and he drew the US into the war in Europe with his declaration of war. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 51099025 United States 03/08/2018 05:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: NONE of these liberal immigration nightmares would be happening today if the US had left Europe after WWII. How about if the US had stayed out of WWII all together? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75561778 And let Germany deal with the communists by themselves? Or allied with Germany to fight the communists? The people of the US weren't interested in getting into another war in Europe. But after the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor that dummkopf named Adolf Hitler declared war on the USA! That's right, if you are looking for someone to blame for the US entry into WWII Europe you only have to look at the stupid little shit with the funny mustache. On December 11, 1941 at the same time the German army was losing the Battle of Moscow Adolf Hitler declared war on the US. He didn't have to as his pact with Japan only said that if Japan was attacked Germany would come to their defense. And since Japan was the attacker Germany had no obligation to declare war on the US. Heck, the US would have been focused on the Pacific as the American people still didn't want to get into the war in Europe and there were strong anti-communist feelings in the US. But as we all know Hitler was an idiot and he drew the US into the war in Europe with his declaration of war. Yes, Hitler was the root cause behind all of this but he did not force the US to remain in Europe for 70 plus years. That one fact is destroying Europe by "killing them with kindness." |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 76339035 Canada 03/08/2018 05:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: NONE of these liberal immigration nightmares would be happening today if the US had left Europe after WWII. Staying there and other places was always about colonization, exploitation and plunder. With a smile. Just like it always has been since day 1 of mankind. Unfortunately for the US, they are headed the way of the british empire, when they became too far over reaching and had too many subjects and people realized they could be knocked off their high horse, quite easily I might add. One only has to look at the defeats suffered continuously including getting an ass kicking from the asians and sadly, the piss poor rag tag factions in the ME. PC culture is the coup de gras of that as wanton firebombing and nuking of civies is looked down upon nowadays, just like winning wars is. |
John Donson User ID: 75543009 United States 03/08/2018 05:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: NONE of these liberal immigration nightmares would be happening today if the US had left Europe after WWII. I just picked my jaw up from the floor after reading these comments. Nobody ever learned history, and this is history from 80 years ago! Molotov-Ribbentrop American "Neutrality" (not really) Marshall Plan Eastern Bloc Cold War I could go on and on, but you mental midgets can start with these topics for your homework. |
Educated Redneck User ID: 69010652 United States 03/08/2018 05:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: NONE of these liberal immigration nightmares would be happening today if the US had left Europe after WWII. How about if the US had stayed out of WWII all together? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75561778 And let Germany deal with the communists by themselves? Or allied with Germany to fight the communists? The people of the US weren't interested in getting into another war in Europe. But after the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor that dummkopf named Adolf Hitler declared war on the USA! That's right, if you are looking for someone to blame for the US entry into WWII Europe you only have to look at the stupid little shit with the funny mustache. On December 11, 1941 at the same time the German army was losing the Battle of Moscow Adolf Hitler declared war on the US. He didn't have to as his pact with Japan only said that if Japan was attacked Germany would come to their defense. And since Japan was the attacker Germany had no obligation to declare war on the US. Heck, the US would have been focused on the Pacific as the American people still didn't want to get into the war in Europe and there were strong anti-communist feelings in the US. But as we all know Hitler was an idiot and he drew the US into the war in Europe with his declaration of war. Yes, Hitler was the root cause behind all of this but he did not force the US to remain in Europe for 70 plus years. That one fact is destroying Europe by "killing them with kindness." I still don't see the logic in blaming the US military presence in Europe for the flood of immigration now occurring in Europe. Dumbass liberal socialists are gonna be dumbass liberal socialists regardless of the troops stationed there. And OP thinks that if the US military wasn't in Europe that also would have stopped our illegal immigration issues... but I see no logic there. There has never been the will to place the US military on our southern border. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 51099025 United States 03/08/2018 05:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: NONE of these liberal immigration nightmares would be happening today if the US had left Europe after WWII. I just picked my jaw up from the floor after reading these comments. Nobody ever learned history, and this is history from 80 years ago! Quoting: John Donson 75543009 Molotov-Ribbentrop American "Neutrality" (not really) Marshall Plan Eastern Bloc Cold War I could go on and on, but you mental midgets can start with these topics for your homework. I think that you make OPs point genius. If the US had left as soon as everything got stabilized, Europe would have been forced to learn to defend itself and not become so dependent on the US for protection. Now, they seem to be unable to defend themselves or their countries. The USSR would never have attacked western Europe because they knew the ultimate consequences. Same reason China wont attack Taiwan today even though there are no US troops there. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 51099025 United States 03/08/2018 06:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: NONE of these liberal immigration nightmares would be happening today if the US had left Europe after WWII. How about if the US had stayed out of WWII all together? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75561778 And let Germany deal with the communists by themselves? Or allied with Germany to fight the communists? The people of the US weren't interested in getting into another war in Europe. But after the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor that dummkopf named Adolf Hitler declared war on the USA! That's right, if you are looking for someone to blame for the US entry into WWII Europe you only have to look at the stupid little shit with the funny mustache. On December 11, 1941 at the same time the German army was losing the Battle of Moscow Adolf Hitler declared war on the US. He didn't have to as his pact with Japan only said that if Japan was attacked Germany would come to their defense. And since Japan was the attacker Germany had no obligation to declare war on the US. Heck, the US would have been focused on the Pacific as the American people still didn't want to get into the war in Europe and there were strong anti-communist feelings in the US. But as we all know Hitler was an idiot and he drew the US into the war in Europe with his declaration of war. Yes, Hitler was the root cause behind all of this but he did not force the US to remain in Europe for 70 plus years. That one fact is destroying Europe by "killing them with kindness." I still don't see the logic in blaming the US military presence in Europe for the flood of immigration now occurring in Europe. Dumbass liberal socialists are gonna be dumbass liberal socialists regardless of the troops stationed there. And OP thinks that if the US military wasn't in Europe that also would have stopped our illegal immigration issues... but I see no logic there. There has never been the will to place the US military on our southern border. Many Europeans say "there is nothing that we can do" when asked about why they dont stop the muslims invaders. They have lost the ability of self preservation due to being protected by outsiders for so long. Socialist only became so powerful because they could spend all of their countries money on social programs and not on defense. That would not have occured if they had to defend themselves. |
thinking... User ID: 76320220 United States 03/08/2018 06:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: NONE of these liberal immigration nightmares would be happening today if the US had left Europe after WWII. Europeans would have had to learn to defend themselves from invaders. The liberal Socialists could never have become so powerful because their budgets would not have allowed all the government programs along with paying for defense. Europeans would have never developed the government dependency and helpless attitudes that we now see when trying to deal with invaders. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27690441 All of those extra US troops would have been stationed inside the US and would have been used to prevent our own invasion from mexico. Having that many more troops stationed in the country would have prompted some politician to advocate using them on the border long ago. The US needs to get out of Europe IMMEDIATELY and should have done it 70 years ago. The unexpected side effects of endless occupation are proving to be disastrous for everyone involved. Completely agree. US should have never even been in WWII Europe but it was the Js and British who agitated for it. Charles Lindberg gave a great speech on it and they called him Nazi for it. Sound familiar? Once the war was fought and the Marshall plan enacted, the US made western Europe, essentially, vassals and handed the east over to Stalin, which should never have happened. So, western Europe got cucked to make it helpless and dependent on Uncle Sam and to drive in the brainwashing demanded by the Js - the very same people who created and spread communism and HATE Christianity. To finish Europe off, they're using Muslim immigration as a weapon. It's interesting that some of the countries who were put behind the iron curtain are now the only the ones standing up to this bullshit. They endured communist oppression of them and their Christian faith and will not stand for what's happening now. Of course, it's just a few and not enough to save all of Europe. In his poem Human Pride, Marx admits that his aim is not to improve the world, reform or revolutionize it, but simply to ruin it and enjoy it being ruined: With disdain I will throw my gauntlet full in the face of the world, And see the collapse of this pygmy giant whose fall will not stifle my ardor. Then will I wander godlike and victorious through the ruins of the world And, giving my words an active force, I will feel equal to the Creator. “Looking for consciousness in the brain is like looking in the radio for the announcer.” – Nasseim Haramein, Director of Research for the Resonance Project |
John Donson User ID: 75543009 United States 03/08/2018 07:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: NONE of these liberal immigration nightmares would be happening today if the US had left Europe after WWII. I just picked my jaw up from the floor after reading these comments. Nobody ever learned history, and this is history from 80 years ago! Quoting: John Donson 75543009 Molotov-Ribbentrop American "Neutrality" (not really) Marshall Plan Eastern Bloc Cold War I could go on and on, but you mental midgets can start with these topics for your homework. I think that you make OPs point genius. If the US had left as soon as everything got stabilized, Europe would have been forced to learn to defend itself and not become so dependent on the US for protection. Now, they seem to be unable to defend themselves or their countries. The USSR would never have attacked western Europe because they knew the ultimate consequences. Same reason China wont attack Taiwan today even though there are no US troops there. The question becomes, at what point was Western Europe stabilized? 1950? 1960? 1970? 1/2 of Europe was occupied by the Soviets, forcing Communism on those countries. So tell me what "stabilized" means. Maybe you don't understand that Europe was decimated by the war. There was nothing! The entire continent needed to be rebuilt. You can look at S Korea and say it took them 30 years to rebuild, but S Korea is 20% the size of California. How long do you think it would take a continent to stabilize? |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 27690441 United States 03/08/2018 07:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: NONE of these liberal immigration nightmares would be happening today if the US had left Europe after WWII. I just picked my jaw up from the floor after reading these comments. Nobody ever learned history, and this is history from 80 years ago! Quoting: John Donson 75543009 Molotov-Ribbentrop American "Neutrality" (not really) Marshall Plan Eastern Bloc Cold War I could go on and on, but you mental midgets can start with these topics for your homework. I think that you make OPs point genius. If the US had left as soon as everything got stabilized, Europe would have been forced to learn to defend itself and not become so dependent on the US for protection. Now, they seem to be unable to defend themselves or their countries. The USSR would never have attacked western Europe because they knew the ultimate consequences. Same reason China wont attack Taiwan today even though there are no US troops there. Yep. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 27690441 United States 03/08/2018 07:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: NONE of these liberal immigration nightmares would be happening today if the US had left Europe after WWII. I just picked my jaw up from the floor after reading these comments. Nobody ever learned history, and this is history from 80 years ago! Quoting: John Donson 75543009 Molotov-Ribbentrop American "Neutrality" (not really) Marshall Plan Eastern Bloc Cold War I could go on and on, but you mental midgets can start with these topics for your homework. I think that you make OPs point genius. If the US had left as soon as everything got stabilized, Europe would have been forced to learn to defend itself and not become so dependent on the US for protection. Now, they seem to be unable to defend themselves or their countries. The USSR would never have attacked western Europe because they knew the ultimate consequences. Same reason China wont attack Taiwan today even though there are no US troops there. The question becomes, at what point was Western Europe stabilized? 1950? 1960? 1970? 1/2 of Europe was occupied by the Soviets, forcing Communism on those countries. So tell me what "stabilized" means. Maybe you don't understand that Europe was decimated by the war. There was nothing! The entire continent needed to be rebuilt. You can look at S Korea and say it took them 30 years to rebuild, but S Korea is 20% the size of California. How long do you think it would take a continent to stabilize? "Stabilized" means when the bullets stop flying and the borders were reset. We know that the Allies agreed to give Eastern Europe to Stalin so that is not a valid point. Western Europe could have been provided with the materials and financial baking to rebuild without the US Army being there. Russia was busy with rebuilding itself and controlling Eastern Europe. It was never a military threat to Western Europe. The US should have been out of Europe by 1950. If so, none of these Socialist governments would have ever gained so much power and those countries would have rebuilt their own defenses and learned to defend themselves. Now, they have no idea how to do that. Your point about Korea is well taken and is the same thing. The US should have been out of there decades ago as well. The US is 20 trillion dollars in debt due to worldwide babysitting and idiotic politicians. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76339233 Austria 03/08/2018 07:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: NONE of these liberal immigration nightmares would be happening today if the US had left Europe after WWII. I just picked my jaw up from the floor after reading these comments. Nobody ever learned history, and this is history from 80 years ago! Quoting: John Donson 75543009 Molotov-Ribbentrop American "Neutrality" (not really) Marshall Plan Eastern Bloc Cold War I could go on and on, but you mental midgets can start with these topics for your homework. I think that you make OPs point genius. If the US had left as soon as everything got stabilized, Europe would have been forced to learn to defend itself and not become so dependent on the US for protection. Now, they seem to be unable to defend themselves or their countries. The USSR would never have attacked western Europe because they knew the ultimate consequences. Same reason China wont attack Taiwan today even though there are no US troops there. The question becomes, at what point was Western Europe stabilized? 1950? 1960? 1970? 1/2 of Europe was occupied by the Soviets, forcing Communism on those countries. So tell me what "stabilized" means. Maybe you don't understand that Europe was decimated by the war. There was nothing! The entire continent needed to be rebuilt. You can look at S Korea and say it took them 30 years to rebuild, but S Korea is 20% the size of California. How long do you think it would take a continent to stabilize? "Stabilized" means when the bullets stop flying and the borders were reset. We know that the Allies agreed to give Eastern Europe to Stalin so that is not a valid point. Western Europe could have been provided with the materials and financial baking to rebuild without the US Army being there. Russia was busy with rebuilding itself and controlling Eastern Europe. It was never a military threat to Western Europe. The US should have been out of Europe by 1950. If so, none of these Socialist governments would have ever gained so much power and those countries would have rebuilt their own defenses and learned to defend themselves. Now, they have no idea how to do that. Your point about Korea is well taken and is the same thing. The US should have been out of there decades ago as well. The US is 20 trillion dollars in debt due to worldwide babysitting and idiotic politicians. No, the problem is not that we don´t know to defend us anymore, the problem is that when there is no organization like NATO that keeps europe together, we will start to fight each other again, like we always did. The US never left europe, because they needed it as battleground against the sovietunionand now russia, you were never defending european nations, but only your own global interests. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72531636 United States 03/08/2018 07:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: NONE of these liberal immigration nightmares would be happening today if the US had left Europe after WWII. I just picked my jaw up from the floor after reading these comments. Nobody ever learned history, and this is history from 80 years ago! Quoting: John Donson 75543009 Molotov-Ribbentrop American "Neutrality" (not really) Marshall Plan Eastern Bloc Cold War I could go on and on, but you mental midgets can start with these topics for your homework. I think that you make OPs point genius. If the US had left as soon as everything got stabilized, Europe would have been forced to learn to defend itself and not become so dependent on the US for protection. Now, they seem to be unable to defend themselves or their countries. The USSR would never have attacked western Europe because they knew the ultimate consequences. Same reason China wont attack Taiwan today even though there are no US troops there. The question becomes, at what point was Western Europe stabilized? 1950? 1960? 1970? 1/2 of Europe was occupied by the Soviets, forcing Communism on those countries. So tell me what "stabilized" means. Maybe you don't understand that Europe was decimated by the war. There was nothing! The entire continent needed to be rebuilt. You can look at S Korea and say it took them 30 years to rebuild, but S Korea is 20% the size of California. How long do you think it would take a continent to stabilize? To be fair, without the U.S or Soviet Union rebuilding the countries (even if it was just for politics and not out of the kindness of their hearts) theres no way Europe would have recovered as well as they did today. Look at Germany. Not a single working railroad, the majority of the country's crops burnt down, literally seconds away from a massive famine for years even with help from the U.S and Soviets, and a massive population drop due to the war basically REQUIRED the U.S and Soviets to stay and help rebuild. Other countries like Poland and Yugoslavia were hit just as hard. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 27690441 United States 03/08/2018 07:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: NONE of these liberal immigration nightmares would be happening today if the US had left Europe after WWII. ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51099025 I think that you make OPs point genius. If the US had left as soon as everything got stabilized, Europe would have been forced to learn to defend itself and not become so dependent on the US for protection. Now, they seem to be unable to defend themselves or their countries. The USSR would never have attacked western Europe because they knew the ultimate consequences. Same reason China wont attack Taiwan today even though there are no US troops there. The question becomes, at what point was Western Europe stabilized? 1950? 1960? 1970? 1/2 of Europe was occupied by the Soviets, forcing Communism on those countries. So tell me what "stabilized" means. Maybe you don't understand that Europe was decimated by the war. There was nothing! The entire continent needed to be rebuilt. You can look at S Korea and say it took them 30 years to rebuild, but S Korea is 20% the size of California. How long do you think it would take a continent to stabilize? "Stabilized" means when the bullets stop flying and the borders were reset. We know that the Allies agreed to give Eastern Europe to Stalin so that is not a valid point. Western Europe could have been provided with the materials and financial baking to rebuild without the US Army being there. Russia was busy with rebuilding itself and controlling Eastern Europe. It was never a military threat to Western Europe. The US should have been out of Europe by 1950. If so, none of these Socialist governments would have ever gained so much power and those countries would have rebuilt their own defenses and learned to defend themselves. Now, they have no idea how to do that. Your point about Korea is well taken and is the same thing. The US should have been out of there decades ago as well. The US is 20 trillion dollars in debt due to worldwide babysitting and idiotic politicians. No, the problem is not that we don´t know to defend us anymore, the problem is that when there is no organization like NATO that keeps europe together, we will start to fight each other again, like we always did. The US never left europe, because they needed it as battleground against the sovietunionand now russia, you were never defending european nations, but only your own global interests. The USSR was never a threat and Russia is even less of one. You are describing the US politicians, not the US people. If Europe would rise up with mass demonstrations DEMANDING that all US troops leave Europe, the US citizens would demand it as well. Most US citizens never even realize that we still have tens of thousands of troops stationed there because it has been so long. We would be happy to stop paying for all of that. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 69609458 Switzerland 03/08/2018 08:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: NONE of these liberal immigration nightmares would be happening today if the US had left Europe after WWII. How about if the US had stayed out of WWII all together? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75561778 And let Germany deal with the communists by themselves? Or allied with Germany to fight the communists? Hitler was to crazy and attacked everyone. Hitlers attack on Russia is what drew Stalin into Eastern Europe in the first place. Russia would have just solved its own internal problems if not for Hitler. The US had to save England and France but it did not have to stay in Europe for 70 years afterward. bull shit hitler was paid by the same central banks that paid for the american and russian side, the best way to win a war is to play both sides, america didnt have to save anyone, our job was to destroy europe and have europe get in debt to us so they can have central banks put i nthere countries so the central bankers could own them with debt/usery, they have been doing this for centuries Except that Socialists and Communists hate banks and bankers. The USSR did not make bankers rich. The Socialist Europe of today is not beneficial to bankers. Neither is hoards of low paid invaders. You are too short sighted. Who created socialism & Marxism? Who created the central banking system? Same tribe of frauds. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 69609458 Switzerland 03/08/2018 08:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: NONE of these liberal immigration nightmares would be happening today if the US had left Europe after WWII. ... Quoting: John Donson 75543009 The question becomes, at what point was Western Europe stabilized? 1950? 1960? 1970? 1/2 of Europe was occupied by the Soviets, forcing Communism on those countries. So tell me what "stabilized" means. Maybe you don't understand that Europe was decimated by the war. There was nothing! The entire continent needed to be rebuilt. You can look at S Korea and say it took them 30 years to rebuild, but S Korea is 20% the size of California. How long do you think it would take a continent to stabilize? "Stabilized" means when the bullets stop flying and the borders were reset. We know that the Allies agreed to give Eastern Europe to Stalin so that is not a valid point. Western Europe could have been provided with the materials and financial baking to rebuild without the US Army being there. Russia was busy with rebuilding itself and controlling Eastern Europe. It was never a military threat to Western Europe. The US should have been out of Europe by 1950. If so, none of these Socialist governments would have ever gained so much power and those countries would have rebuilt their own defenses and learned to defend themselves. Now, they have no idea how to do that. Your point about Korea is well taken and is the same thing. The US should have been out of there decades ago as well. The US is 20 trillion dollars in debt due to worldwide babysitting and idiotic politicians. No, the problem is not that we don´t know to defend us anymore, the problem is that when there is no organization like NATO that keeps europe together, we will start to fight each other again, like we always did. The US never left europe, because they needed it as battleground against the sovietunionand now russia, you were never defending european nations, but only your own global interests. The USSR was never a threat and Russia is even less of one. You are describing the US politicians, not the US people. If Europe would rise up with mass demonstrations DEMANDING that all US troops leave Europe, the US citizens would demand it as well. Most US citizens never even realize that we still have tens of thousands of troops stationed there because it has been so long. We would be happy to stop paying for all of that. The grudge with Russia began with centuries of the Khazars attempting to overthrow Russia. They finally succeeded with Lenin. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 69609458 Switzerland 03/08/2018 08:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: NONE of these liberal immigration nightmares would be happening today if the US had left Europe after WWII. Who comprised the bulk of the USSR Bolshevik governing body? same "tribe of frauds" Who was running red China? same "tribe of frauds" Who is behind the hoax shootings and gun control in America? same "tribe of frauds" |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 76340311 United States 03/10/2018 02:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: NONE of these liberal immigration nightmares would be happening today if the US had left Europe after WWII. Europeans would have had to learn to defend themselves from invaders. The liberal Socialists could never have become so powerful because their budgets would not have allowed all the government programs along with paying for defense. Europeans would have never developed the government dependency and helpless attitudes that we now see when trying to deal with invaders. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27690441 All of those extra US troops would have been stationed inside the US and would have been used to prevent our own invasion from mexico. Having that many more troops stationed in the country would have prompted some politician to advocate using them on the border long ago. The US needs to get out of Europe IMMEDIATELY and should have done it 70 years ago. The unexpected side effects of endless occupation are proving to be disastrous for everyone involved. This. |
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