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syncro User ID: 75835116 United States 06/30/2018 08:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I had shaktipat intiation 24 years ago. It's true; the first few years are intense. Some left the path because they felt it was bringing all hope down around them in terms of work, relationships, etc. Some had to stop doing the practices or greatly reduced them because of physical pain and other symptoms it brought about. I had a lot of intense experience as well but, as said, change is hard in the beginning, messy in the middle, and georgeous in the end. The spiritual practice now is so ripe. My wishes have become fulfilled to build my life around practice. Contentment is expanded and making the prana light and meditation come easy. The fruit of yoga has gradually come about. Deep peace and inner strength are at my fingertips. Unification of mind is the key. "Be of one mind." Quoting: syncro It is like an airplane needing to gain altitude to get through the stormy clouds and then eventually breaking out into the great calm. Four gateways to liberation paraphrased from the Yoga Vasishtha: contentment satsang - holy company self-inquiry - meditation and liberating mantra bear same fruit in my experience self-control If any one of these is present within, the rest will follow. so what hv you accomplished outside your own feeling of peace, harmony, bliss? do you feel this contributes somehow to better global consciousness or somesuch? what are your intentions? or do you not hv any? Most definitely. It is said this work is optimal for peace and good will in the world. It is said that family of one who is liberated, generations previous and following, are purified and liberated as well. Ultimately though, with self-realization, or God-realization, there is nothing else needed. It is the final task, the apex of evolution. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 74801056 United States 06/30/2018 08:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I had shaktipat intiation 24 years ago. It's true; the first few years are intense. Some left the path because they felt it was bringing all hope down around them in terms of work, relationships, etc. Some had to stop doing the practices or greatly reduced them because of physical pain and other symptoms it brought about. I had a lot of intense experience as well but, as said, change is hard in the beginning, messy in the middle, and georgeous in the end. The spiritual practice now is so ripe. My wishes have become fulfilled to build my life around practice. Contentment is expanded and making the prana light and meditation come easy. The fruit of yoga has gradually come about. Deep peace and inner strength are at my fingertips. Unification of mind is the key. "Be of one mind." Quoting: syncro It is like an airplane needing to gain altitude to get through the stormy clouds and then eventually breaking out into the great calm. Four gateways to liberation paraphrased from the Yoga Vasishtha: contentment satsang - holy company self-inquiry - meditation and liberating mantra bear same fruit in my experience self-control If any one of these is present within, the rest will follow. so what hv you accomplished outside your own feeling of peace, harmony, bliss? do you feel this contributes somehow to better global consciousness or somesuch? what are your intentions? or do you not hv any? Most definitely. It is said this work is optimal for peace and good will in the world. It is said that family of one who is liberated, generations previous and following, are purified and liberated as well. Ultimately though, with self-realization, or God-realization, there is nothing else needed. It is the final task, the apex of evolution. it is most definitely not the apex of evolution, but give you that it contributes to positivity lose your linear finite mind, please and truly expand your consciousness into the infinite |
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syncro User ID: 75835116 United States 06/30/2018 10:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | with everlasting life there is no "final task" Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74801056 no nirvana or heaven to be reached, only to bring into fruition here in this 'reality' Perhaps it is both. Being in the state of freedom, beyond action, is the most fruitful action. Good deeds and grace are (become) spontaneous. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75591662 India 07/01/2018 01:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I had shaktipat intiation 24 years ago. It's true; the first few years are intense. Some left the path because they felt it was bringing all hope down around them in terms of work, relationships, etc. Some had to stop doing the practices or greatly reduced them because of physical pain and other symptoms it brought about. I had a lot of intense experience as well but, as said, change is hard in the beginning, messy in the middle, and georgeous in the end. The spiritual practice now is so ripe. My wishes have become fulfilled to build my life around practice. Contentment is expanded and making the prana light and meditation come easy. The fruit of yoga has gradually come about. Deep peace and inner strength are at my fingertips. Unification of mind is the key. "Be of one mind." Quoting: syncro It is like an airplane needing to gain altitude to get through the stormy clouds and then eventually breaking out into the great calm. Four gateways to liberation paraphrased from the Yoga Vasishtha: contentment satsang - holy company self-inquiry - meditation and liberating mantra bear same fruit in my experience self-control If any one of these is present within, the rest will follow. so what hv you accomplished outside your own feeling of peace, harmony, bliss? do you feel this contributes somehow to better global consciousness or somesuch? what are your intentions? or do you not hv any? You could escape the mind control and fear based programming. That's a choice you have to make. Because the cabal have taken control of your world. To the extent you can't speak against them or march in protest. Heck you can't even feed the poor. Imagine how Jesus would have felt. Naive and ignorant that for thousands of years they have been lied to. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76354469 United States 07/01/2018 01:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | with everlasting life there is no "final task" Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74801056 no nirvana or heaven to be reached, only to bring into fruition here in this 'reality' So very true. Yet where do tales of explicit Nirvana feelings/emotions originate? Where do tales of heaven, or fantasy lands, originate? Something inspired people enough to even form words around the concept of paradise and immortality... the divine and the fantastical. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 76727689 United States 07/01/2018 08:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | with everlasting life there is no "final task" Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74801056 no nirvana or heaven to be reached, only to bring into fruition here in this 'reality' So very true. Yet where do tales of explicit Nirvana feelings/emotions originate? Where do tales of heaven, or fantasy lands, originate? Something inspired people enough to even form words around the concept of paradise and immortality... the divine and the fantastical. bc we are born knowing the truth, but the illusion intrudes to deceive us Negate it at every turn, with every thought, until it is an on-going mantra in your mind .... until we hv manifested 'heaven' as intended (good, decent, fun, happy) on earth |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 23859404 United States 07/01/2018 10:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Can’t take time to read all the replies, but yes it happens. I got there several years ago and have since lost or returned to normal. I worked hard for is, experienced out of body events, takings on the spiritual level. The energy was emmense, something I could project to others such as healing but at the same time scared the crap out of a friend when I illustrated it on him. Some here, yes a read a few of the demon types, LOL mentioned demons. No, none of that was a part of it, much the opposite. I was highly tuned and anything violent, hateful etc. was painful to me, very painful. I am an old man, worked in rescue, had students die and friends die while trying to save them, but I was not prepared for the feelings of love that I could feel nor the feelings of grief at the negatives in this world. Yes, I am going to try and regain this again. Again move things with my mind, to start the energy going up my spine, to contact or allow contact with the spiritual. Do this if you will, but be prepared for the emmense pain you will experience when encountering violence and hatred, you will come to know all of us are as one and it hurts to see what goes on. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76561601 United States 07/01/2018 10:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you are violent or hateful enough to experience great pain during kundalini... ... I doubt you'd even come across this thread to begin with. Kundalini doesn't show itself to those who are not ready. If you get dropped on your ass, such as "bad trips" with certain pharmakeia, maybe you were meant to get dropped on your ass? Maybe everything in this universe just... exists... and it's up to us whether we'll make it "good" or "bad"? My thoughts, at least. Such wonderful sharing going on here!!! |
Ozric User ID: 72213255 United States 07/01/2018 10:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you are violent or hateful enough to experience great pain during kundalini... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76561601 ... I doubt you'd even come across this thread to begin with. Kundalini doesn't show itself to those who are not ready. If you get dropped on your ass, such as "bad trips" with certain pharmakeia, maybe you were meant to get dropped on your ass? Maybe everything in this universe just... exists... and it's up to us whether we'll make it "good" or "bad"? My thoughts, at least. Such wonderful sharing going on here!!! It revealed itself to me, and as stated (in previous posts) was all in for quite some time, I dont need to sit here and prove that I have years and years of experience with many a multifarious art. I found them to be dishonest, deceptive, and put simple, like energy vending machines, except in the end I learned that I was more the vending machine... By all their ways to justify Christ, I learned who I was missing... Christ... with respect and when I say justify Christ I mean they did everything possible to convince me he was cool but he was just a man... woe! brother Last Edited by Ozric on 07/01/2018 10:53 PM I do exist, I'm pretty sure :) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75591662 India 07/02/2018 01:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's practiced by a headstand by the followers of hatha yoga. You don't need to do the headstand, but can bear the gifts of soma by prostrating. This practice of soma flowing into the cranium is called a secret path. The narrow path or the middle path as it's called in various cultures.. [link to ibb.co (secure)] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75591662 India 07/02/2018 09:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The path to heaven is filled with light. When the Ajna chakra is activated you see it as a bright light shining with the power of thousand suns. When you reach the heavenly abode of the crown chakra you'll experience a light shining as a million suns. It's a one of a kind experience recorded in history as the kingdom of God bathed in light. The saints who have experienced this light are depicted with a halo in reverence. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75696877 United States 07/02/2018 09:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The path to heaven is filled with light. When the Ajna chakra is activated you see it as a bright light shining with the power of thousand suns. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75591662 When you reach the heavenly abode of the crown chakra you'll experience a light shining as a million suns. It's a one of a kind experience recorded in history as the kingdom of God bathed in light. The saints who have experienced this light are depicted with a halo in reverence. Truth. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75591662 India 07/03/2018 12:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The tree in the middle of the garden may have been forbidden as in Genesis past. Jesus the son of God took the sin away by his sacrifice and allowed mankind to blossom from the earthly realms and reach God. [link to en.m.wikipedia.org (secure)] |
LilMiss User ID: 76614166 United States 07/03/2018 02:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Dubious Panda I'm referring to, still has an account, with said handle. He still posts after being gone for several years. Quoting: LilMiss However..his posts are more erratic than I can make sense of. Again..further showing the destructive nature of these energies and the Mind.. We know Panda well from the anom thread series, he is one of many "lost souls" floating around, lost in the narrative of one's own mind, the false narratives that we constantly throw up as a means to explain the world around us, attributing meaning and content to meaningless content all the time, in this, our scenario generating memory-powered prediction machine that is our brain. The waves are strong in the waters of one's own mind, crashing, clashing, foaming and spraying all over the place. Ugh! Thank you so much for the clarifications! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 55353255 Netherlands 07/03/2018 02:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The path to heaven is filled with light. When the Ajna chakra is activated you see it as a bright light shining with the power of thousand suns. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75591662 When you reach the heavenly abode of the crown chakra you'll experience a light shining as a million suns. It's a one of a kind experience recorded in history as the kingdom of God bathed in light. The saints who have experienced this light are depicted with a halo in reverence. Truth. and yet very few people will actually achieve the pinnacle of this experience |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 29928214 United States 07/03/2018 02:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The path to heaven is filled with light. When the Ajna chakra is activated you see it as a bright light shining with the power of thousand suns. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75591662 When you reach the heavenly abode of the crown chakra you'll experience a light shining as a million suns. It's a one of a kind experience recorded in history as the kingdom of God bathed in light. The saints who have experienced this light are depicted with a halo in reverence. Truth. and yet very few people will actually achieve the pinnacle of this experience Choices matter. Some chase the money somechase the game few chase the truth. |
LilMiss User ID: 76614166 United States 07/03/2018 02:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Seer777 Yes. All those years of practice, meditation, yoga, personal study, and discipline, didn't lead to the one thing I have spoken about through this entire thread, and this forum for 6 years. The energy I experience in my chakra centers, body, the abilities and wisdom..arent Kundalini according to this expert. Kundalini will not uproot your life. You will be able to maintain your relationships as normal, your responsibilities as a parent, your dedication to your job. The house work and social obligations. All the energies will just 'leave you alone' as soon as you ask. There will be no trials, tribulations, conginitive dissonance, psychosis and potentially getting attention of nefarious and astral entities. It feels REALLY GOOD. Which must make it good. Yeah. perhaps growing up in the church and attachment to dogma is what made it so hard on you and others you know? and with those religious beliefs your belief in demons, devils, etc? (which do not exist) humans create evil through bad free will choices, thoughts, and actions It was growing up in the church and what I've learned there, that has kept me from much the same fate as the others. That. A ton of stubbornness, self-work, discipline, praying for guidance, punishment, and trial..keeps me walking the narrow path. What it was in the beginning, is I was being told things contrary to what I was experiencing, by people I had decided to trust. They would blow off my fears..while still pushing the 'dancing'. Those who knew, stayed silent. For years. And still do. I know who they are though. I do wonder if they wonder, why I don't out them. Pretty obvious though. It is energetic vampirism. Kundalini and what led up to it..came before the vampires. But only just. As I mentioned, Dubious Panda made that post, which made sense to me, of what was happening beyond the 'Kundalini awakening' or activation. nothing negative or evil directed against anyone who is good or innocent works no more harm to the good / innocent your beliefs in man-made dogma designed to control and induce fear in you (not speaking about normal, natural morality) and programming is likely what has caused you problems. any problems i have encountered have been from my own thinking or beliefs in dogma, choosing to believe things like God creates both good and evil, thinking i needed to feel guilty for things which i should not have borne guilt. for staying in a SLAVE mindset, when ever as a child i knew these things were false, wrong, evil, lies and deceit. be positive and if you feel negativity coming at you from assholes you should laugh at it and not allow it to affext you in any way, bc what has already started happening to them is DESERVED. God always metes out divine justice against evil when human justice doesn't. shit has gone on for too long, caused and allowed by humans ... NO MORE [link to youtu.be (secure)] Perfect tune. ;) |
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LilMiss User ID: 76614166 United States 07/03/2018 02:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When I said ancients used kundalini energy in everyday life I was going to tell you about the Native American ritual of rain dance. I ran into a Native American feast once and was in wonder seeing them dancing and calling to nature. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75591662 It's only 20 years later I realised they were doing energy work and it hit me like a ton of bricks. Nothing has changed but the realisation was profound. If you looked into history you'll find that traditional practices were all about nature and using the energies in nature to reach God. Directly asking God to intervene. It pains me to learn that Native Americans were exterminated to suppress this knowledge. Yeah. After all kundalini means coiled... that's why its representation is a serpent. Functions pretty much as an inductor. And when everything around is music, you tune into it and find the rain frequency when you need it to dance around you. You can use your personal "kundalini" inductor along with your personal conductor to filter frequencies and tune in so that your brain can decode what you receive in the tuned circuit. You can also use it to emit/broadcast, of course, so that you can influence the flow of the energy around you. If seen as naked, kundalini is nothing more than your personal battery which stores your energy in the magnetic field as the electrical flow runs through its coils. If seen as clothed with whatever beliefs one may have, kundalini looks exactly like the bliss or fears one choses to focus on. It would be nice if we would try to comprehend our bodies souls and spirits in all their functions so that we would know how to use all our physical and psychological/spiritual components in efficient ways - ways which would be beneficial for us and our surroundings. Thank you, BFF!!! |
LilMiss User ID: 76614166 United States 07/03/2018 02:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you are violent or hateful enough to experience great pain during kundalini... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76561601 ... I doubt you'd even come across this thread to begin with. Kundalini doesn't show itself to those who are not ready. If you get dropped on your ass, such as "bad trips" with certain pharmakeia, maybe you were meant to get dropped on your ass? Maybe everything in this universe just... exists... and it's up to us whether we'll make it "good" or "bad"? My thoughts, at least. Such wonderful sharing going on here!!! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75591662 India 07/03/2018 09:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The danger in not revealing the tree of knowledge is that behind closed groups, closed doors and secret societies the cabal have been working to take gullible down the negative path and calling it higher knowledge. Never be swayed from the path of the tree of knowledge and going from the lower frequency to higher frequency. Remember that Jesus Christ taught the language of love. After you get through the tree of knowledge you get access to the Hridaya chakra which is the seat of infinite love. It takes a great amount of persistence to reach this place but it's been done before by the grace of Jesus and God. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75211114 United States 07/04/2018 04:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The path to heaven is filled with light. When the Ajna chakra is activated you see it as a bright light shining with the power of thousand suns. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75591662 When you reach the heavenly abode of the crown chakra you'll experience a light shining as a million suns. It's a one of a kind experience recorded in history as the kingdom of God bathed in light. The saints who have experienced this light are depicted with a halo in reverence. Blinded by the light of Lucifer. |
Seer777 Ride the wings of the mind User ID: 76527187 United States 07/04/2018 04:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The path to heaven is filled with light. When the Ajna chakra is activated you see it as a bright light shining with the power of thousand suns. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75591662 When you reach the heavenly abode of the crown chakra you'll experience a light shining as a million suns. It's a one of a kind experience recorded in history as the kingdom of God bathed in light. The saints who have experienced this light are depicted with a halo in reverence. Blinded by the light of Lucifer. Are we negotiating? Always. Yes! What do you want? How about Bliss? Bliss on tap.. ~John Milton, Devil's Advocate Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body... ~Seneca |
Fatality User ID: 75035479 United Kingdom 07/04/2018 04:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Can’t take time to read all the replies, but yes it happens. I got there several years ago and have since lost or returned to normal. I worked hard for is, experienced out of body events, takings on the spiritual level. The energy was emmense, something I could project to others such as healing but at the same time scared the crap out of a friend when I illustrated it on him. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23859404 Some here, yes a read a few of the demon types, LOL mentioned demons. No, none of that was a part of it, much the opposite. I was highly tuned and anything violent, hateful etc. was painful to me, very painful. I am an old man, worked in rescue, had students die and friends die while trying to save them, but I was not prepared for the feelings of love that I could feel nor the feelings of grief at the negatives in this world. Yes, I am going to try and regain this again. Again move things with my mind, to start the energy going up my spine, to contact or allow contact with the spiritual. Do this if you will, but be prepared for the emmense pain you will experience when encountering violence and hatred, you will come to know all of us are as one and it hurts to see what goes on. Same here. I was a fat fuck and decided to lose weight, so as well as going to the gym I ate a very strict diet, and meditated for 30 mins or so per day to 'unblock' my chakras. I had no idea what this was when I tried it, slowly over time I could feel my body vibrating. An energy was rising from the bottom up my spine. One time I had a full blown kundalini, it scared the shit out of me, but was blissful at the same time. I also hope to get back to that level, but shit also went wrong and I lost the way. So as sceptic as I was beforehand, this shit is real, because a placebo cannot take 6 months to work by my logic. SublimeParagon |