Isaiah 9:6 is in The End Times - Not Proof That Jesus IS God the Father John 1:1 - Bible Study

Yes there is.

It's called DISCERNMENT.

"He will be called...."

Called by WHOM?

Answer that.

WHY does Jesus NOT KNOW when He is going to return?

WHY does Jesus mention the Father / "He who sent me" over 180 times in the NT? IF He is God Himself, these comments are useless.

WHY does Jesus go off to pray to the Father by Himself? If He is GOD, would He pray to Himself?

WHY does Jesus start the Lord's Prayer with "Our Father"?

WHY does Jesus say "ask in My name" instead of "pray to me" / "worship me"?

WHY does the dove land on Jesus, and the Father's voice is heard, just after Jesus' baptism (Matthew 3:17 & Mark 1:11)?

Why are Peter et al...told at the transfiguration...(Matthew 17 & Luke 9).."This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased; hear ye him."?

Why does Jesus say in Mark 10 & Luke 18...And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? none is good, save one, that is, God.


@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@​@@@@@@



IF Jesus was / is actually the Father, there is no reason to ...

1. Mention the Father...as He would BE the Father, and those comments would be misleading.

2. Say that He had been sent. God can't "send Himself". No reason to.

3. Start the Lord's Prayer with "Our Father".

4. Thank the Father before raising Lazarus.

5. Document the prayers to the Father in John 17. That whole chapter wouldn't exist.

6. Pray to the Father, as God wouldn't pray to Himself.

7. NOT know when He is coming back.

8. Sit at the right hand of the Father. He wouldn't sit at the right hand of Himself.

Jesus IS Divine as He is the Son of God, and was given authority over Heaven and earth (Matthew 28:18).

But He is NOT the Father Himself.

What kind of husband uses his wife and is a one way street?

What happened to the others?

Yeah they just flat out deny Clear scripture. The natural man receiveth NOT the things of God, they are foolishness to them, because they have not been born again of the spirit. They reject God's gift of Salvation and have gone the way of Cain seeking their own justification, through the works of their own hands.

What kind of husband uses his wife and is a one way street?

What happened to the other wives?

Luke 24:25-27

25 Then he said unto them, O fools, and slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken:

26 Ought not Christ to have suffered these things, and to enter into his glory?

27 And beginning at Moses and all the prophets, he expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning himself.

It literally hurts to see our Lord and Savior blasphemed so.
Our Lord was spoken of over and over from the Law of Moses, to the Prophets. To understand just how much He loves us will NEVER be comprehended throughout eternity. We were warned about in the new covenant, those who would deny His awesome diety (antichrists) They would have a form of godliness but deny the Power thereof. Ravenous wolves the Scriptures states. In reading this thread, we see who they are quite easily-by their fruits-,name calling, criticizing and spewing venom on God's beloved children who are born of the Spirit. These are legalists claiming to defend God (as if He needed it) when Jesus prayed in John 17 FOR UNITY.

Elaborate please. Spiked my interest.

Proves the Trinity

How about this one:

John 17:5 And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.

What all of the false doctrines have in common is the SAME.

Denial of Jesus being God in the flesh.

Jehovah Witness, Mormon, Hebrew Roots, Jvvdaism, Sacred Name, Seventh Day Adventist, etc., etc.

Tons of false doctrines, cults, and all with ONE commonalty.

Why is that? The answer is common sense.

hey false teach who likes to bring devision like the devil

Ye hath God said??

For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder:

and his name shall be called Wonderful,
Counsellor,
The mighty God,
The everlasting Father,
The Prince of Peace.


well here we have 1 John.
[1Jo 5:7 KJV] 7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

[Jhn 1:14 KJV] 14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

going back to ISA 9:6

For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder:

and his name shall be called Wonderful,
Counsellor,
The mighty God,
The everlasting Father,
The Prince of Peace.


Jesus is God.

If Jesus is just an ordinary man, who existed before the world, then Jesus must be the first man. But the bible says Adam was the first man...

If Jesus is just an ordinary man then how could Jesus exist before the world existed?

The thief comes but to kill, steal and destroy...
Satan knows that there is no other name under Heaven by which man must be saved. So they have a form of godliness (self-righteousness) but deny the power of /him.

And to think how many millions are of this mind. That kind of thought is disturbing. I appreciate your references. You did not just pull them out of the air. I know where it comes from.

It "looks" like God. But it is giving heed to seducing spirits, and embracing the doctrines of devils. This 'angel of light' has perfected the counterfeit to a science.

I was watching "drunk in the spirit" videos on YT the other night. Have you ever seen that? It was so troubling to my spirit. And, I saw that most of the people in this movement were young. My heart really broke because many of them are looking for something to help. They are lost and in need of a savior.

I actually cried some.

What every man and woman truly seeks is Jesus. When they find the fake ones, it "feels" right, yet you can see the still existing emptiness. Those videos were truly awful.

Pretty simple actually. He is the word of god.
He was made flesh to bring us into harmony.
AND THEY KILLED HIM because he told them they were wrong.
Biggest connection I ever made in my life is how frequencies of sound can hold and shape matter= MIND BLOWN!
In the beginning was the word or logi whatever you guys call it now. Something got the wheels of creation turning. It was the word.

God exists in a higher dimension.

If a 3D figure casts a 2D shadow, what kind of a shadow does a 4D figure cast = MIND BLOWN!

God exists in a higher dimension.

If a 3D figure casts a 2D shadow, what kind of a shadow does a 4D figure cast = MIND BLOWN!

What all of the false doctrines have in common is the SAME.

Denial of Jesus being God in the flesh.

Jehovah Witness, Mormon, Hebrew Roots, Jvvdaism, Sacred Name, Seventh Day Adventist, etc., etc.

Tons of false doctrines, cults, and all with ONE commonalty.

Why is that? The answer is common sense.