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The Invasion of Yoga and Hinduism Into New Age Christianity

 
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Hi Friend,

I didn't watch the videos you posted, but I don't agree with yoga being anti Christian or demonic.

I concur there are some yogic charlatans that will take advantage of people, just like there are Christian pastors that take advantage and misguide their flock.

Yoga is a system of working with natural meridian energy points in the body, improve health and still the mind.
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such piss poor Christians that are scared of yoga

where there's no law there's no sin

just don't do evil
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
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Isn't yoga just stretching?
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such piss poor Christians that are scared of yoga

where there's no law there's no sin

just don't do evil
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Good luck with that

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Isn't yoga just stretching?
 Quoting: Name87


That's what you've been led to believe.

ALL below are less than 50%

[link to truthwatchers.com]

Marilyn Ferguson listed Yoga within her list of psychotechnologies proves it is more than physical, but designed to introduce individuals into the occult. One expert offers an extreme warning:

“I advanced in the occult sphere so fast that I soon became the youngest guru in the Western Hemisphere, and one of the most advanced and powerful. Twice a week I taught yoga on television. Hatha-Yoga sounds like a nice simple set of exercises; everyone thinks it is just gymnastics. I want to warn that it is just the beginning of a devilish trap.

After I became an instructor in Hatha-Yoga, my guru showed me that the only thing these exercises do is open your appetite for the occult. They are like marijuana; they usually lead you on to a drug that is worse and stronger, binding you so completely that only Christ can deliver you. Many people think that occult power is just the power of the mind. This is not true. There is a point beyond which the power of the mind ends and the demonic power takes over.


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"Yoga is an integral part of the Hindu religion. There is a saying: “There is no Yoga without Hinduism and no Hinduism without Yoga." The country of origin of Yoga is undoubtedly India, where for many hundreds of years it has been a part of man's activities directed towards higher spiritual achievements. The Yoga Philosophy is peculiar to the Hindus, and no trace of it is found in any other nation, ancient or modern. It was the fruit of the highest intellectual and spiritual development. The history of Yoga is long and ancient. The earliest Vedic texts, the Brahmanas, bear witness to the existence of ascetic practices (tapas) and the vedic Samhitas contain some references, to ascetics, namely the Munis or Kesins and the Vratyas."

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Yoga should be practiced by everyone, everywhere, of any religion. It stretches the muscles, joints, keeps you flexible and fit.

If everybody did yoga for 10 minutes a day there wouldn't be poor mobility.
 Quoting: John Locke


You're obviously not a Christian either.

Jesusweeps
 Quoting: TheLordsServant


Not to be an instigator, but doesn't your meme portray NASA's view of space and not the Bible's?blink
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Jesusweeps
 Quoting: TheLordsServant


Not to be an instigator, but doesn't your meme portray NASA's view of space and not the Bible's?blink
 Quoting: Dazey


Where does the Bible say that the earth is flat?

Please...stay on topic. hi
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You may search for God everywhere but never find God! Only when you find God within your own heart will you find God everywhere!
 Quoting: Ozicell


Luke 17:20-21
And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation: Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.
 Quoting: Ozicell


That verse addresses the Kingdom of God...and says nothing about the heart.

How are people who are NOT Believers supposed to find God?

Surely not within themselves.

Jesus said that only those "drawn by the Father"...but that would be a LOT of people.

John 6

44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him:
and I will raise him up at the last day.
45 It is written in the prophets, And they shall be all taught of God. Every
man therefore that hath heard, and hath learned of the Father, cometh unto me.


Then there's these....

Matthew 15:8 This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me
with their lips; but their heart is far from me.


^^^^ Those are "so-called" Believers

Matthew 15:19 For out of the heart proceed evil
thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies:


^^^^ Believers can still do ANY of those.

1 Corinthians 2:9 But as it is written, Eye hath not
seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the
things which God hath prepared for them that love him.

^^^^ Not even those are Saved know of these things.
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For how many centuries did the church murder and destroy, do anything, to prevent people from getting copies/translations of the Bible? This is obviously the same thing, this influence that wants to prevent people from seeking within, benefiting from their own energy and insight. How transparent, this jealous conniving energy. What a farce.
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Here's the thing about meditation; it RENDERS THE CHURCH UNNECESSARY. Those sincere and capable who teach meditation ask nothing in return, as those who meditate become free. The church, insofar as they need subjects, do not want to make people free, and therefore those elements suppress internal work like meditation.
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For how many centuries did the church murder and destroy, do anything, to prevent people from getting copies/translations of the Bible? This is obviously the same thing, this influence that wants to prevent people from seeking within, benefiting from their own energy and insight. How transparent, this jealous conniving energy. What a farce.
 Quoting: syncro


Just as God had allowed the Israelites to worship idols etc...for hundreds of years, He also allowed the Catholic Church to do what they did, in part, because the RCC was the ONLY ones to go after the Muslim invasion that had occured in the Holy Lands.

The Reformation started because God had grown tired of the RCC's shenanigans.

You don't find it odd that, no matter what ANYONE has done, the Bible has continued to spread around the world?

God has used any way He choses to grow Belief in Him...and His Son.
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Here's the thing about meditation; it RENDERS THE CHURCH UNNECESSARY. Those sincere and capable who teach meditation ask nothing in return, as those who meditate become free. The church, insofar as they need subjects, do not want to make people free, and therefore those elements suppress internal work like meditation.
 Quoting: syncro


Meditation without God is a ticket to the occult...and demons.
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I am with OP. The Eastern philosophies are diametrically opposite of the values and principles that made Western society what it is.

These superstitions are based upon eliminating desire, voiding the conscious mind and freeing the soul to depart the earth.

Such superstitions mean no science, no art, no free market, no industrial society that creates wealth sufficient to support some people falling for such brain dead nonsense.

Hindu, Bhudda, mindfulness, Krishna, it's all the same Eastern mystical crap and it belongs in the trash along with the degraded, poverty stricken and backward societies that created them.

Western thought - Catherdral at Chartres.

Eastern thought - people crapping in the farm fields.
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Yoga: the Dangers of Spiritual Deception

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Yoga fixed my back.

Yet I am ever a Christian.
 Quoting: Apocalypse Troll


This one is about 45 min long

Quote from a former guru...

"There is no Hinduism without yoga...and there is no yoga without Hinduism"

Skip to the 3 m 25s mark for the start of the show

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 Quoting: TheLordsServant


I choose to listen to my own heart, not some weirdo lol.
 Quoting: Apocalypse Troll


Good for you.. this Christian thing that anything other than their mind control is evil is sick. They hinder the spiritual development of mankind on this world.
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Yoga: the Dangers of Spiritual Deception

[link to truthwatchers.com]
 Quoting: TheLordsServant


There are exactly no spiritual dangers to the practice of Yoga. In fact will will assist spiritual development.

Spirituality is about the creative powers of the HUMAN BEING. Nothing more.. nothing less. That is what makes the HUMAN BEING made in the Likeness of the Father.. in HIS image.. the ability to use creative mind.
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You may search for God everywhere but never find God! Only when you find God within your own heart will you find God everywhere!
 Quoting: Ozicell


Luke 17:20-21
And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation: Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.
 Quoting: Ozicell


That verse addresses the Kingdom of God...and says nothing about the heart.

How are people who are NOT Believers supposed to find God?

Surely not within themselves.

Jesus said that only those "drawn by the Father"...but that would be a LOT of people.

John 6

44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him:
and I will raise him up at the last day.
45 It is written in the prophets, And they shall be all taught of God. Every
man therefore that hath heard, and hath learned of the Father, cometh unto me.


Then there's these....

Matthew 15:8 This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me
with their lips; but their heart is far from me.


^^^^ Those are "so-called" Believers

Matthew 15:19 For out of the heart proceed evil
thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies:


^^^^ Believers can still do ANY of those.

1 Corinthians 2:9 But as it is written, Eye hath not
seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the
things which God hath prepared for them that love him.

^^^^ Not even those are Saved know of these things.
 Quoting: TheLordsServant


REALLY NOW? The KINGDOM OF GOD IS WITHIN THE HUMAN BEINGS MIND and INCLUDES the HEART and LOVE. There are no such rules for believers.. to believe is to KNOW WITHIN and have contact with the Inner Father fragment... YOUR PERSONAL GOD and JESUS TAUGHT THIS and demonstrated it. Much of the bible has been screwed all to hell.
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Isn't yoga just stretching?
 Quoting: Name87


That's what you've been led to believe.

ALL below are less than 50%

[link to truthwatchers.com]

Marilyn Ferguson listed Yoga within her list of psychotechnologies proves it is more than physical, but designed to introduce individuals into the occult. One expert offers an extreme warning:

“I advanced in the occult sphere so fast that I soon became the youngest guru in the Western Hemisphere, and one of the most advanced and powerful. Twice a week I taught yoga on television. Hatha-Yoga sounds like a nice simple set of exercises; everyone thinks it is just gymnastics. I want to warn that it is just the beginning of a devilish trap.

After I became an instructor in Hatha-Yoga, my guru showed me that the only thing these exercises do is open your appetite for the occult. They are like marijuana; they usually lead you on to a drug that is worse and stronger, binding you so completely that only Christ can deliver you. Many people think that occult power is just the power of the mind. This is not true. There is a point beyond which the power of the mind ends and the demonic power takes over.


[link to www.hinduwisdom.info]

"Yoga is an integral part of the Hindu religion. There is a saying: “There is no Yoga without Hinduism and no Hinduism without Yoga." The country of origin of Yoga is undoubtedly India, where for many hundreds of years it has been a part of man's activities directed towards higher spiritual achievements. The Yoga Philosophy is peculiar to the Hindus, and no trace of it is found in any other nation, ancient or modern. It was the fruit of the highest intellectual and spiritual development. The history of Yoga is long and ancient. The earliest Vedic texts, the Brahmanas, bear witness to the existence of ascetic practices (tapas) and the vedic Samhitas contain some references, to ascetics, namely the Munis or Kesins and the Vratyas."

[link to www.hinduwebsite.com (secure)]
 Quoting: TheLordsServant


God Knowing individuals are "occult" according to Christian Beliefs.. and its a GOOD THING to be interested in your universe and purpose and its angelic beings and and and and and and and......OCCULT IS NOT A BAD WORD.

This is the basic meaning.

supernatural, mystical, or magical beliefs, practices, or phenomena.

YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO BE INTERESTED in the Supernatural and mystical. ITs HUMAN TO DO SO.
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Here's the thing about meditation; it RENDERS THE CHURCH UNNECESSARY. Those sincere and capable who teach meditation ask nothing in return, as those who meditate become free. The church, insofar as they need subjects, do not want to make people free, and therefore those elements suppress internal work like meditation.
 Quoting: syncro


Meditation without God is a ticket to the occult...and demons.
 Quoting: TheLordsServant


Don't Christians who are earnest in their prayer and devotion also experience demons, etc.? (also positive experiences) It is the result of a more subtle perception, or the stirring of the subconscious, and possibly resistance by dark forces or grace from the higher.
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LS I see that you posted in the thread about censoring people in threads. I hope that you took note of that, because you have done this. Maybe you will re-think deleting posts that you do not agree with because it really is a cowardly thing to do. Hope you will reconsider your own behavior where this is concerned.
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Deleting off-topic garbage is cowardly?

You come way over here to post but said nothing to me in the appropriate topic?

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There are exactly no spiritual dangers to the practice of Yoga. In fact will will assist spiritual development.

Spirituality is about the creative powers of the HUMAN BEING. Nothing more.. nothing less. That is what makes the HUMAN BEING made in the Likeness of the Father.. in HIS image.. the ability to use creative mind.
 Quoting: ALL IS ONE IS ALL


REALLY NOW? The KINGDOM OF GOD IS WITHIN THE HUMAN BEINGS MIND and INCLUDES the HEART and LOVE. There are no such rules for believers.. to believe is to KNOW WITHIN and have contact with the Inner Father fragment... YOUR PERSONAL GOD and JESUS TAUGHT THIS and demonstrated it. Much of the bible has been screwed all to hell.
 Quoting: ALL IS ONE IS ALL


God Knowing individuals are "occult" according to Christian Beliefs.. and its a GOOD THING to be interested in your universe and purpose and its angelic beings and and and and and and and......OCCULT IS NOT A BAD WORD.

This is the basic meaning.

supernatural, mystical, or magical beliefs, practices, or phenomena.

YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO BE INTERESTED in the Supernatural and mystical. ITs HUMAN TO DO SO.
 Quoting: ALL IS ONE IS ALL


"Inner Father"?

chuckle laugh lol rofl 1rof1 lmao lolsign

ALL "New Age" hogwash. ALL deception. ALL evil.

Isaiah 47

10 For thou hast trusted in thy wickedness: thou hast said, None seeth me. Thy wisdom and thy knowledge, it hath perverted thee; and thou hast said in thine heart, I am, and none else beside me.
11 Therefore shall evil come upon thee; thou shalt not know from whence it riseth: and mischief shall fall upon thee; thou shalt not be able to put it off: and desolation shall come upon thee suddenly, which thou shalt not know.
12 Stand now with thine enchantments, and with the multitude of thy sorceries, wherein thou hast laboured from thy youth; if so be thou shalt be able to profit, if so be thou mayest prevail.
13 Thou art wearied in the multitude of thy counsels. Let now the astrologers, the stargazers, the monthly prognosticators, stand up, and save thee from these things that shall come upon thee.


Isaiah 57

3 But draw near hither, ye sons of the sorceress, the seed of the adulterer and the whore.
4 Against whom do ye sport yourselves? against whom make ye a wide mouth, and draw out the tongue? are ye not children of transgression, a seed of falsehood,
5 Enflaming yourselves with idols under every green tree, slaying the children in the valleys under the clifts of the rocks?


Malachi 3:5 And I will come near to you to judgment; and I will be a swift witness against the sorcerers, and against the adulterers, and against false swearers, and against those that oppress the hireling in his wages, the widow, and the fatherless, and that turn aside the stranger from his right, and fear not me, saith the LORD of hosts.
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Here's the thing about meditation; it RENDERS THE CHURCH UNNECESSARY. Those sincere and capable who teach meditation ask nothing in return, as those who meditate become free. The church, insofar as they need subjects, do not want to make people free, and therefore those elements suppress internal work like meditation.
 Quoting: syncro


Meditation without God is a ticket to the occult...and demons.
 Quoting: TheLordsServant


Don't Christians who are earnest in their prayer and devotion also experience demons, etc.? (also positive experiences) It is the result of a more subtle perception, or the stirring of the subconscious, and possibly resistance by dark forces or grace from the higher.
 Quoting: syncro


Satan NEVER stops trying to persuade Christians.

Temptations.

horn2 horn2 horn2
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Cast not your Pearls before Swine...hf
“Luck is what happens when preparation meets opportunity.” ~Seneca

PS:
I Stole this from another member.... ;)
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LS I see that you posted in the thread about censoring people in threads. I hope that you took note of that, because you have done this. Maybe you will re-think deleting posts that you do not agree with because it really is a cowardly thing to do. Hope you will reconsider your own behavior where this is concerned.
 Quoting: Laughing Falcon


Deleting off-topic garbage is cowardly?

You come way over here to post but said nothing to me in the appropriate topic?

sockpuppet
 Quoting: TheLordsServant


Yoga.
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Here's the thing about meditation; it RENDERS THE CHURCH UNNECESSARY. Those sincere and capable who teach meditation ask nothing in return, as those who meditate become free. The church, insofar as they need subjects, do not want to make people free, and therefore those elements suppress internal work like meditation.
 Quoting: syncro


Meditation without God is a ticket to the occult...and demons.
 Quoting: TheLordsServant


Don't Christians who are earnest in their prayer and devotion also experience demons, etc.? (also positive experiences) It is the result of a more subtle perception, or the stirring of the subconscious, and possibly resistance by dark forces or grace from the higher.
 Quoting: syncro


Satan NEVER stops trying to persuade Christians.

Temptations.

horn2 horn2 horn2
 Quoting: TheLordsServant


So both yogis and Christians invite demonic and other forces. Condemn one for that and be dishonest.
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“Judeo Christianity” — The Biggest Oxymoron of all.

Jesus teachings are essentially Buddhist/Hindu and Not “Jewish” at All.

Carry on OP you are doing an excellent job and I appreciate your good work.

Thank you for all your help. From the Top of my Heart.
 Quoting: Yesterday ~ Today ~ Tomorrow


Nope.

Folks like you just try to CLAIM they are.

Yogi's / guru's claim they ARE gods...and that ANYONE can be a god.

Jesus says there is ONE God...the Father.

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I always though yoga was self reflection, stretching and exercise, which is good for the body and mind?

Now if you start adding in paganism with mantra's and ritualistic overtures and that sort of thing, then I can see where it can be an issue.
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I always though yoga was self reflection, stretching and exercise, which is good for the body and mind?

Now if you start adding in paganism with mantra's and ritualistic overtures and that sort of thing, then I can see where it can be an issue.
 Quoting: Osmium76


Deliberatlely "packaged" that way.

Watch at least the 45 min vid. It's explained.
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Don't Christians who are earnest in their prayer and devotion also experience demons, etc.? (also positive experiences) It is the result of a more subtle perception, or the stirring of the subconscious, and possibly resistance by dark forces or grace from the higher.
 Quoting: syncro


Satan NEVER stops trying to persuade Christians.

Temptations.

horn2 horn2 horn2
 Quoting: TheLordsServant


So both yogis and Christians invite demonic and other forces. Condemn one for that and be dishonest.
 Quoting: syncro


Where did I say that Christians "invite" demons etc...?

Sticking words in my mouth is a sure way to get deleted and banned.

Yogi's / guru's are part of Hinduism...not of Christ nor the Father.
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“Judeo Christianity” — The Biggest Oxymoron of all.

Jesus teachings are essentially Buddhist/Hindu and Not “Jewish” at All.

Carry on OP you are doing an excellent job and I appreciate your good work.

Thank you for all your help. From the Top of my Heart.
 Quoting: Yesterday ~ Today ~ Tomorrow


Nope.

Folks like you just try to CLAIM they are.

Yogi's / guru's claim they ARE gods...and that ANYONE can be a god.

Jesus says there is ONE God...the Father.

bonghit
 Quoting: TheLordsServant


There have been, are and will be many gods. It’s a tricky word....

Why do you think Yahweh the Old bully said “you shall have no other gods before me”? Cuz, there were other “gods”.

I can’t tell you....

You must learn on your own....

The Good News is....

You have all Eternity....

All That Is....

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