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Mandela Effect: Professor gives lecture on how they are changing the past to CONTROL the future

 
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In my opinion both exist.

Some follow the "Stone Tape"* theory.

Others are interactive.

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 Quoting: Louis in Richmond


Interesting.

One thing I've observed by listening/reading about ghost stories is that the majority of the cases, there is some sort of trauma associated with their death... war, murder, accidental deaths Etc. I don't ever recall hearing about a ghost story where the departed passed away peacefully in their sleep or surrounded by their loved ones.
 Quoting: tcs

Always.

Unless.. stone tape.

I used to watch the previous owners of my childhood home enjoy picnics in the backyard from a time fifteen years prior to my parent moving our family to the home.

Those events were completely non-interactive and could only be watched.

Not everyone can see them. Those that can are often referred to as "Physical Mediums"*

The US Travel Channel features a show weekly with a physical medium named Amy Allen. [link to www.travelchannel.com (secure)]

* [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]
 Quoting: Louis in Richmond


I once knew a young dude who said he saw ghosts all the time but people thought he was nuts so he started saying that he was making it all up. I have no idea if he was really seeing something or not.

I've never seen a ghost in my life (I'm not young) other than one time I was camping out in an open field, in a rain storm by myself and dozed off only to be awaken by something that felt heavy upon my chest. I then watched this shadow thingy as it drifted through the tent walls. This may have been nothing more than "sleep paralysis" but it was real enough that I'll never forget it.

I'm actually quite happy not to have your ability to see this stuff we've been discussing here today.
 Quoting: tcs

It actually is 'normal' to those that have experienced it since childhood as they know no other way.

Personally I believe some schizophrenics actually are physical mediums that are unable to handle or become damaged by their experiences.

The first time I came upon a murder scene and was aware the decedents body was hidden beside the road was a shock though.
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Has anyone here examined retrocausality?

Like where something in the future has such an enormous impact, that the shaking (frequency) from the future sends reverberations along the time line. It's actually a physics idea, quantum in effect. A little nod to the Buddhist principle of the eternal now.
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Yes. Reverberations from the great awakening in the near future (hopefully) ripple back in time much like the waves a pebble would make if dropped in the center of a still pond. The interval between waves increasing in proportion to the distance (time) from impact.

The late 60's was one such consciousness raising period. I was 16 in 1969, the year Woodstock happened. I was too young to just up and go there, but the vibe was intense throughout that period. Music was going through a renaissance, popular culture was open to unlimitted possibilities. The 70's and capitalism ruined all that. A definate ripple-back in time though.


Other waves back from the future could have been the Harmonic Convergence of 1987, or the Harmnic Concordance of 2003. The hype of 2012 might also have been a portend of some great future consciousness awakening event that will bring us back from quarantine into the universal circuits.
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If you add this to the mix it gets even more complex

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We're an alien race who is reading the record of a dead race to keep from making the same mistakes?
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Man...I have limited bandwidth.

Can you tell me who the Prof is and how long the videos are?
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48 minutes and 20 minutes in length respectively, not sure the professor's name in the first but he's going over all the know suspects: Mandela, Snow White, Berenstain Bears, and others.

I still have 68 GB left on my phone cellular plan and have used 138 GB on my unlimited home WiFi cellular plan with 7 days left until the new plan month begins. I would gladly share it with you if there were a way.

There was a great thread with discussion here last week, but it's already fallen off of my active threads list.
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Hey just wanted to say that out of all the mean, angry people here you actually seem like a nice guy. That's all
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Man...I have limited bandwidth.

Can you tell me who the Prof is and how long the videos are?
 Quoting: Fluffy Pancakes


48 minutes and 20 minutes in length respectively, not sure the professor's name in the first but he's going over all the know suspects: Mandela, Snow White, Berenstain Bears, and others.

I still have 68 GB left on my phone cellular plan and have used 138 GB on my unlimited home WiFi cellular plan with 7 days left until the new plan month begins. I would gladly share it with you if there were a way.

There was a great thread with discussion here last week, but it's already fallen off of my active threads list.
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Hey just wanted to say that out of all the mean, angry people here you actually seem like a nice guy. That's all
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Thank you!! hugs

This is me in real life too!

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We're an alien race who is reading the record of a dead race to keep from making the same mistakes?
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You just simply do not get it. So you really shouldn't talk about it because you are coming from a place of complete ignorance.
 Quoting: Fluffy Pancakes


In debate there are always two sides with opposing viewpoints. Your suggesting I shut up does not help your argument.

Memory can be faulty and I have even provided some of the logic for why this is so. It's not so much what I believe as what I don't believe and so far I have not seen any credible evidence that would lead me to believe in the Mandela effect or in your assertions.
 Quoting: Sciencefan


...because there wouldn't be physical evidence in real Mandela effect cases, since physical reality would have changed (just not your consciousness, and thus memory of the original event). If that will always be your answer, why even bother with the topic knowing there CAN'T be physical evidence...? Seems you're wasting your time.
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You just simply do not get it. So you really shouldn't talk about it because you are coming from a place of complete ignorance.
 Quoting: Fluffy Pancakes


In debate there are always two sides with opposing viewpoints. Your suggesting I shut up does not help your argument.

Memory can be faulty and I have even provided some of the logic for why this is so. It's not so much what I believe as what I don't believe and so far I have not seen any credible evidence that would lead me to believe in the Mandela effect or in your assertions.
 Quoting: Sciencefan


...because there wouldn't be physical evidence in real Mandela effect cases, since physical reality would have changed (just not your consciousness, and thus memory of the original event). If that will always be your answer, why even bother with the topic knowing there CAN'T be physical evidence...? Seems you're wasting your time.
 Quoting: Master X

Because history needs an anchor, a zero mile marker from which all is measured.

And because truth must be preserved.

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Interesting.

One thing I've observed by listening/reading about ghost stories is that the majority of the cases, there is some sort of trauma associated with their death... war, murder, accidental deaths Etc. I don't ever recall hearing about a ghost story where the departed passed away peacefully in their sleep or surrounded by their loved ones.
 Quoting: tcs

Always.

Unless.. stone tape.

I used to watch the previous owners of my childhood home enjoy picnics in the backyard from a time fifteen years prior to my parent moving our family to the home.

Those events were completely non-interactive and could only be watched.

Not everyone can see them. Those that can are often referred to as "Physical Mediums"*

The US Travel Channel features a show weekly with a physical medium named Amy Allen. [link to www.travelchannel.com (secure)]

* [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]
 Quoting: Louis in Richmond


I once knew a young dude who said he saw ghosts all the time but people thought he was nuts so he started saying that he was making it all up. I have no idea if he was really seeing something or not.

I've never seen a ghost in my life (I'm not young) other than one time I was camping out in an open field, in a rain storm by myself and dozed off only to be awaken by something that felt heavy upon my chest. I then watched this shadow thingy as it drifted through the tent walls. This may have been nothing more than "sleep paralysis" but it was real enough that I'll never forget it.

I'm actually quite happy not to have your ability to see this stuff we've been discussing here today.
 Quoting: tcs

It actually is 'normal' to those that have experienced it since childhood as they know no other way.

Personally I believe some schizophrenics actually are physical mediums that are unable to handle or become damaged by their experiences.

The first time I came upon a murder scene and was aware the decedents body was hidden beside the road was a shock though.
 Quoting: Louis in Richmond


Are you aware of how "crazy" that sounds to most people? It would be like me trying to describe the sound of a loon to someone who has never heard a loon before... "unworldly" to say the least. I mean, you sound certifiable. I don't doubt what you're saying but you must be aware of how odd it sounds, right? I'll bet you have people in your family that has this same "gift"as well. It wouldn't surprise me in the least. You seem to handle it quite well. It's kinda cool that you can be open about it and share.

We're all bat-sheet crazy you know?

Interesting what you said about Schizos. I agree with you btw.

I think I will call you 'Sam' cheers
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Always.

Unless.. stone tape.

I used to watch the previous owners of my childhood home enjoy picnics in the backyard from a time fifteen years prior to my parent moving our family to the home.

Those events were completely non-interactive and could only be watched.

Not everyone can see them. Those that can are often referred to as "Physical Mediums"*

The US Travel Channel features a show weekly with a physical medium named Amy Allen. [link to www.travelchannel.com (secure)]

* [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]
 Quoting: Louis in Richmond


I once knew a young dude who said he saw ghosts all the time but people thought he was nuts so he started saying that he was making it all up. I have no idea if he was really seeing something or not.

I've never seen a ghost in my life (I'm not young) other than one time I was camping out in an open field, in a rain storm by myself and dozed off only to be awaken by something that felt heavy upon my chest. I then watched this shadow thingy as it drifted through the tent walls. This may have been nothing more than "sleep paralysis" but it was real enough that I'll never forget it.

I'm actually quite happy not to have your ability to see this stuff we've been discussing here today.
 Quoting: tcs

It actually is 'normal' to those that have experienced it since childhood as they know no other way.

Personally I believe some schizophrenics actually are physical mediums that are unable to handle or become damaged by their experiences.

The first time I came upon a murder scene and was aware the decedents body was hidden beside the road was a shock though.
 Quoting: Louis in Richmond


Are you aware of how "crazy" that sounds to most people? It would be like me trying to describe the sound of a loon to someone who has never heard a loon before... "unworldly" to say the least. I mean, you sound certifiable. I don't doubt what you're saying but you must be aware of how odd it sounds, right? I'll bet you have people in your family that has this same "gift"as well. It wouldn't surprise me in the least. You seem to handle it quite well. It's kinda cool that you can be open about it and share.

We're all bat-sheet crazy you know?

Interesting what you said about Schizos. I agree with you btw.

I think I will call you 'Sam' cheers
 Quoting: tcs

Thank you TCS. 'Been called crazy for it many times.

Yet it is what it is. Have a great day! cheers
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You just simply do not get it. So you really shouldn't talk about it because you are coming from a place of complete ignorance.
 Quoting: Fluffy Pancakes


In debate there are always two sides with opposing viewpoints. Your suggesting I shut up does not help your argument.

Memory can be faulty and I have even provided some of the logic for why this is so. It's not so much what I believe as what I don't believe and so far I have not seen any credible evidence that would lead me to believe in the Mandela effect or in your assertions.
 Quoting: Sciencefan


...because there wouldn't be physical evidence in real Mandela effect cases, since physical reality would have changed (just not your consciousness, and thus memory of the original event). If that will always be your answer, why even bother with the topic knowing there CAN'T be physical evidence...? Seems you're wasting your time.
 Quoting: Master X

Because history needs an anchor, a zero mile marker from which all is measured.

And because truth must be preserved.
 Quoting: Louis in Richmond


But "if" there is physical evidence then that implies something waaay more sinister than what the mandela effect is supposed to actually be.

On the actual timeline changes, but your consciousness not being version (however you're protected/unchanged); there's science theories universes are constantly nudging against each other...potentially even changing timelines, but would you notice? There could be literally trillions of changes each day, but the universe is so big/expansive and its timeline so huge that it could happen everyday and nobody would even know. Would you know if one random tiny bit of your history changed, never mind some minor change to a guy's history 10 thousand years ago? Or change to some planet on the other side of the universe...? You wouldn't, would you? So assuming it's actual timeline changes and not the former "something more sinister" for all these noticable changes showing up on one tiny planet at one specific timeframe by so many...it sort of implies deliberate intent to cause changes somehow.

Unless it's all just in our heads/bs/manipulations.
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Makes sense. It is the past that has changed and this changes the present.

With gump was is past tense so why would the living use a past tense to their kid when explaining the present. The mother was giving advice for the present and future. Was is past Is is now and future.

When you think of explaining something's to your kid's before you die you don't use the past but present tense.

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Mirror mirror was the chant to waken the dead to respond.
Magic mirror.. Well if the mirror was magic no need for the evil woman to chant.. that magic mirror would Grant her any wish but no tells her who is fine. So mirror was not magic only magic was the story line.
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What worries me about this is the conversations that have changed. Numerous times I have had conversations with people that they later claim never happened.

Pharmacist told me one of my meds was ceasing production because there are better options available and he didn't remember it.

Postal employee and I had a conversation about mailing requirements INCLUDING going through the regulations in the regulations books and apparently that never happened either, in fact the rules are the exact opposite.

That's just two of the more memorable ones. Over the past few years I've learned to just observe and not interact when these things come up.
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