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Text portions below per Dr. Stephen Jones Weblog Nov. 24, 2018


A change of money
Nov 24, 2018
When the Federal Reserve Bank was chartered in 1914 following the Federal Reserve Act in December of 1913, Congress gave up its power to create money and gave it to “the experts,” the big banking interests. Throughout the late 1880’s the big political fight was about keeping control of the nation out of the hands of the bankers. In 1913 the banks won; the people lost.

Instead of the US Treasury creating money as needed and spending it into circulation without debt, the Treasury now had to borrow it into circulation. There was a fixed amount of money in circulation at the time, and with a growing population and economy, more money was needed to keep the economy running smoothly.

Taxes could fund the government, but taxes took money out of circulation, creating a shortage for the people. The only way to make up for this was to borrow from the Fed (at interest) and spend the money into circulation. To pay back the loans, more money needed to be created out of nothing, borrowed from the Fed, and spent into circulation. That, of course, follows the classic definition of a Ponzi scheme.

The Federal Reserve system was set up to enrich the bankers in the short run and to implode in the end, after the people and the nation itself were so far in debt that they could not pay back their loans.

We are nearing that point today. We actually reached that point in 2008, but when the Fed lowered interest rates to zero, it bought us some time. In fact, banks and corporations increased their debt load by borrowing more, since they could afford zero interest rates. But more recently, the Fed began raising interest rates again, and now the increased level of debt is becoming a problem again.

The Federal Reserve Board talks about a “neutral” rate of interest, where the rate neither harms nor benefits the economy. That is their supposed goal, although they seldom find themselves at that neutral spot. Either the rates are too low, causing a spike in debt and inflation, or the rates are too high, causing recessions and bankruptcies.

In 1980 the Fed raised interests to about 18 percent to find that “neutral” spot. Actually, they went above it, causing a recession.

In 1987 the Fed raised interest rates to 10 percent to find that “neutral” spot. They caused another recession.

In 2001 the Fed raised interests to 6 percent to find that “neutral” spot. Another recession occurred.

Now the Fed’s projection of the “neutral” spot is about 3 percent.

Do you see a pattern here? As time passes, the “neutral” spot is lower and lower. In other words, the economy is going further and further into debt, and so the economy cannot handle higher interest rates before it collapses.

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Dr. Stephen Jones weblog ctd.
We are now near the “neutral” point once again, and the Fed is thinking that it will raise interest rates when it meets December 18-19. The talk has been about raising interest rates twice more in 2019, but that remains to be seen. Given the economic rumblings, I suspect that if the Fed raises the interest rate even one more time, they will once again bankrupt a lot of corporations, run many more people out of the housing market, and crash the economy.

Given the fact that the Fed has never stopped raising interest rates until they caused a recession, I doubt that this time will be any different. They never seem to know where the “neutral” rate is until they go beyond it and cause a recession. When the crash occurs, they slap their foreheads and say, “Oh, there it was!”

In my opinion, they know exactly where the “neutral” rate is, but their purpose is to foreclose on property and sell it to the bankers for pennies on the dollar. It’s bad for the banks but good for the bankers. Banks are just the tools by which money is siphoned to the bankers. In fact, all corporations are just tools to enrich those who control them.

Right now there are some very large corporations that are teetering on the brink of bankruptcy. They are already insolvent, but one more rate hike will probably push them into filing for bankruptcy. General Electric is one, Sears is another. In less than two years, GE’s share price has dropped nearly 75 percent. Sears has been scraping bottom for even longer. It is only a matter of time before these corporations implode or are bailed out by the government.

In Europe Deutsche Bank is on the brink as well. They are not directly affected by the Fed here in the USA, but its shares have been dropping even with the Euro’s ongoing negative interest rates.

Then there is the long-term problem of the Spanish, Italian, and Greek banks, which have long been technically insolvent. If any of them go down, it will affect the entire Eurozone, because they are all tied together.
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Dr. Stephen Jones weblog portion continued:

The bottom line is that we should be aware of the big financial picture, even if we do not know or understand all of the details. It appears that the Fed is intending to crash the economy in 2019. It may well be that one more rate hike in December will be the trigger once again. We are, after all, ten years past the bank crisis in 2008. Historically, we are due for another recession, though this has been postponed in the past two years by the Trump policy.

This will not be just another recession. The problem is systemic. The idea of the Fed itself is ending. What we know as Mystery Babylon is funded primarily through the Fed. From the standpoint of Bible prophecy, it is time for Babylon to fall. Prophecy and history are coming together. The Fed will not simply collapse. It will be replaced by a new system.

My guess is that Trump will nationalize the privately-owned Fed and cancel whatever debt is owed to this bank. If the US government cancels all of the debt (bonds) held by other countries, it could easily trigger wars. Likewise, there are many US corporations and citizens who hold US government bonds. These bonds, at least, would have to be monetized—perhaps telling everyone to cash them in for the new form of money. That would keep money in circulation but remove the interest-bearing debt notes attached to each Fed Note.

Rumors have it that the new monetary system will be gold-backed. Even if the gold actually exists in Ft. Knox (which I doubt), the price of gold would have to skyrocket in order to have enough to back the amount of money needed in circulation just here in America. It could be done, but the problem will not be solved unless the Treasury nationalizes the Fed and eliminates the need for the Fed’s debt note that we now use. Then we will need to see a different form of money established that is a store of labor (energy), not a store of debt.

By itself, gold will not resolve this problem. The underlying problem is not a lack of backing but the interest that is attached to every Fed note. Only when the debt is eliminated from money will the problem be solved.

One way or another, money needs to return to being an asset, rather than a debt note. It needs to represent positive wealth, not negative wealth (debt). I do not know if the government has the power to do this, because the bankers have controlled the governments of the world for a long time. But one way or another this will be done just because the time is ripe for Mystery Babylon to fall.

Thus concludes the weblog of Dr. Stephen Jones.
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My personal thoughts:

A dollar will buy about 2 cents of what it would purchase in 1914 at the inception of the Federal Reserve.

A jubilee cycle later our 90% silver currency for the half dollars, quarters and dimes was suspended to the copper nickel clad in 1965.

The halves were 40% silver until 1970 and that ended as well in 1971, and at the time Nixon closed the gold window.

Interestingly in 1965 was Ted Kennedy's chain migration "Immigration Reform act" which virtually closed the gates of America to white Europeans and opened them to the flood from the third world as well. Perhaps America is like an "ark" (Think Noah before the global judgement and calamity fell on the earth) of sorts gathering up the creation before the second wave of judgement on the earth... I am not saying I'm for all the massive immigration and foreign gods and religions coming here... but with the massive abortion rates and an interest banking system that requires economic growth the politicians will wink and the bankers and employers will continue to bring the foreigners into the US.

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The hanky panky with the gold has also been going on a long time... I vaguely recall hearing the story that China received a shipment of our gold plated tungsten bars.... (tungsten has about the same atomic weight and density as gold)
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BUMP

I've wondered if in this 100 year devaluation cycle if the value just got transferred elsewhere as powerful people moved money in and out of fiat currency into gold and property.

One thing kept it's value and the other lost it's value. That value didn't just vaporize it got shifted.

There has to be a connection. Maybe that was the whole intent all along.

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What will the present system be replaced with?

Revelation 13:15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.

16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:

17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.


18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.



BTW I know the SJW's hate this but even God in heaven states that there are "small and great" people.... things were not created equal... just a heads up to the SJW's in their safe spaces out there.
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BUMP

I've wondered if in this 100 year devaluation cycle if the value just got transferred elsewhere as powerful people moved money in and out of fiat currency into gold and property.

One thing kept it's value and the other lost it's value. That value didn't just vaporize it got shifted.

There has to be a connection. Maybe that was the whole intent all along.
 Quoting: Regal Beast


They do use the banks to shift wealth into the hands of the elite as they collapse property values, short stocks and then buy them up on the cheap... it's like shearing the sheep....
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What will the present system be replaced with?

Revelation 13:15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.

16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:

17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.


18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.



BTW I know the SJW's hate this but even God in heaven states that there are "small and great" people.... things were not created equal... just a heads up to the SJW's in their safe spaces out there.
 Quoting: ChivalryKnight


I find it interesting they have put the smart AI chip in so many credit and debit cards and are conditioning folks everwhere to insert/swipe.... couple that with the vaccine injection program world wide and this prophecy makes incredible sense about how late the hour truly is on the earth.

My hope is that we can barter and stay outside this system... it simply said we can't buy or sell... nothing about prohibitions on barter or blessing fellow Christians as communities set a hedge outside the satanic system to come.
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What will the present system be replaced with?

Revelation 13:15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.

16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:

17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.


18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.



BTW I know the SJW's hate this but even God in heaven states that there are "small and great" people.... things were not created equal... just a heads up to the SJW's in their safe spaces out there.
 Quoting: ChivalryKnight

The "mark" of the Beast, is not an Economic system.
Many are confused by separating it from its roots: the Religion of the Beast.

It is a Religious system that uses intolerance of non believers (to the point of refusing to sell them food or buy things from them) to goad people into joining it.

Everything else the Beast does, is based upon Religion (worship of himself), this "mark" is not different from that, but just more of the same thing.

The concept of Branding or "marks" in the Bible and society at that time was about separating and identifying groups. Military units usually has a "mark", Religious groups " marked" their devotees.
This is the concept the "mark" is referring to, not commerce.

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What will the present system be replaced with?

Revelation 13:15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.

16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:

17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.


18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.



BTW I know the SJW's hate this but even God in heaven states that there are "small and great" people.... things were not created equal... just a heads up to the SJW's in their safe spaces out there.
 Quoting: ChivalryKnight

The "mark" of the Beast, is not an Economic system.
Many are confused by separating it from its roots: the Religion of the Beast.

It is a Religious system that uses intolerance of non believers (to the point of refusing to sell them food or buy things from them) to goad people into joining it.

Everything else the Beast does, is based upon Religion (worship of himself), this "mark" is not different from that, but just more of the same thing.
 Quoting: The Dr.


I appreciate your thoughts. I have heard many different metaphorical interpretations for the "mark"... one even called it the "love of money".... so I won't be dogmatic in my interpretation of prophecy as I see through a glass dimly.... still with that said I see the AI as somewhat of an omen of control as Babylon has one last gasp before the Kingdom age of Christ overspreads the earth.

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What will the present system be replaced with?

Revelation 13:15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.

16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:

17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.


18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.



BTW I know the SJW's hate this but even God in heaven states that there are "small and great" people.... things were not created equal... just a heads up to the SJW's in their safe spaces out there.
 Quoting: ChivalryKnight

The "mark" of the Beast, is not an Economic system.
Many are confused by separating it from its roots: the Religion of the Beast.

It is a Religious system that uses intolerance of non believers (to the point of refusing to sell them food or buy things from them) to goad people into joining it.

Everything else the Beast does, is based upon Religion (worship of himself), this "mark" is not different from that, but just more of the same thing.
 Quoting: The Dr.


I appreciate your thoughts. I have heard many different metaphorical interpretations for the "mark"... one even called it the "love of money".... so I won't be dogmatic in my interpretation of prophecy as I see through a glass dimly.... still with that said I see the AI as somewhat of an omen of control as Babylon has one last gasp.
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Any good Bible student knows to look at context, both in the Chapter and in the societal context that was present at the time.
None of this supports the Chip or other Economic only, application of this passage.
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What will the present system be replaced with?

Revelation 13:15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.

16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:

17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.


18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.



BTW I know the SJW's hate this but even God in heaven states that there are "small and great" people.... things were not created equal... just a heads up to the SJW's in their safe spaces out there.
 Quoting: ChivalryKnight

The "mark" of the Beast, is not an Economic system.
Many are confused by separating it from its roots: the Religion of the Beast.

It is a Religious system that uses intolerance of non believers (to the point of refusing to sell them food or buy things from them) to goad people into joining it.

Everything else the Beast does, is based upon Religion (worship of himself), this "mark" is not different from that, but just more of the same thing.
 Quoting: The Dr.


I appreciate your thoughts. I have heard many different metaphorical interpretations for the "mark"... one even called it the "love of money".... so I won't be dogmatic in my interpretation of prophecy as I see through a glass dimly.... still with that said I see the AI as somewhat of an omen of control as Babylon has one last gasp.
 Quoting: ChivalryKnight

Any good Bible student knows to look at context, both in the Chapter and in the societal context that was present at the time.
None of this supports the Chip or other Economic only, application of this passage.
 Quoting: The Dr.


I am aware of pretorism's view that the RCC institution fulfilled many of these prophecies on a year for a day time cycle... ie. the 1260 days/years from emperor Justinian 529 AD to the capture of the pope by Napoleon in 1798. The RCC institution could cut people off from much of their source of living or excommunication was almost as bad as banishment in the dark ages... but I can't say that they were the ultimate fulfillment of the prophecy either... just another school of thought. Prophecy can be fulfilled on multiple levels IMHO.
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I heard Robert David Steel say on the SGTReport last night that the monetary reset is coming in Dec. He did not elaborate however.
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I hope and pray the Trump presidency can survive the transition of a debt restructure... or better yet repudiating the fraudulent debt of the Fed. Reserve (Federal in name only) in its entirety to give the American people a jubilee from their debt slavery.

Even all the people I know with student loans while foreigners come in and get a free education and grants and our native born sons and daughters are put into the shackles of debt for college.
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Spent 50 years starving for god and serving people.
Gimmee my 50 state MD multi pass and show me the buffet. I'd at least like to live a few less hard rock days before I go if the lord doesn't grudge me that.
But I guess we will see?
A chunk of people do not think thier game will last long enough to do it.
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Covid, fake riots, communist organizers - keep your powder dry America. This was not the disease or the riots, those both are still on down the line.
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I heard Robert David Steel say on the SGTReport last night that the monetary reset is coming in Dec. He did not elaborate however.
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Every nov/dec for years now..
"Science without religion is lame; religion without science is blind"

Covid, fake riots, communist organizers - keep your powder dry America. This was not the disease or the riots, those both are still on down the line.
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Spent 50 years starving for god and serving people.
Gimmee my 50 state MD multi pass and show me the buffet. I'd at least like to live a few less hard rock days before I go if the lord doesn't grudge me that.
But I guess we will see?
A chunk of people do not think thier game will last long enough to do it.
 Quoting: Timur2020


I'm so close to getting my Social Security I've paid into for decades and fishing and hunting... but I can't say it will pan out for sure either.... I love the way Merle sang about it when I saw him in concert...."Give me all I've got coming to me!!!!"


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The most dastardly part of the Fed raising rates is to use this as a tool to create economic collapse, hardship and social unrest for a presidential leader they despise that is not following the globalist agenda but trying to put America first.
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6 In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths.

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I heard Robert David Steel say on the SGTReport last night that the monetary reset is coming in Dec. He did not elaborate however.
 Quoting: Kodiak Island


Every nov/dec for years now..
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One day it's gonna be true.
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God Bless and Protect our President Trump
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God Bless and Protect our President Trump
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Amen and Amen.
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6 In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths.

"The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." Jefferson

Laughter is health to the bones so just do it!
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Money is a tool... just like a car or a drill.

Use it but don't love it or covet what others have....

My black friday shopping was buying 10 gallons of gas more or less...

I must be getting old or just never got hooked on the techno gizmo hand held gadgets all these people go ape over buying year in and year out.

1 Timothy 6:10 For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.

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Proverbs 3:5 Trust in the Lord with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding.
6 In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths.

"The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." Jefferson

Laughter is health to the bones so just do it!
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...

The "mark" of the Beast, is not an Economic system.
Many are confused by separating it from its roots: the Religion of the Beast.

It is a Religious system that uses intolerance of non believers (to the point of refusing to sell them food or buy things from them) to goad people into joining it.

Everything else the Beast does, is based upon Religion (worship of himself), this "mark" is not different from that, but just more of the same thing.
 Quoting: The Dr.


I appreciate your thoughts. I have heard many different metaphorical interpretations for the "mark"... one even called it the "love of money".... so I won't be dogmatic in my interpretation of prophecy as I see through a glass dimly.... still with that said I see the AI as somewhat of an omen of control as Babylon has one last gasp.
 Quoting: ChivalryKnight

Any good Bible student knows to look at context, both in the Chapter and in the societal context that was present at the time.
None of this supports the Chip or other Economic only, application of this passage.
 Quoting: The Dr.


I am aware of pretorism's view that the RCC institution fulfilled many of these prophecies on a year for a day time cycle... ie. the 1260 days/years from emperor Justinian 529 AD to the capture of the pope by Napoleon in 1798. The RCC institution could cut people off from much of their source of living or excommunication was almost as bad as banishment in the dark ages... but I can't say that they were the ultimate fulfillment of the prophecy either... just another school of thought. Prophecy can be fulfilled on multiple levels IMHO.
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Actually Biblical prophecy can not.
It is quite accurate and explicit. Though it is often disjointed, in that you must know the whole Bible to get all the bits and pieces that fit together. Then you must have a good understanding of the cultures and societies involved to get the deeper meaning.

The RCC does not fit the Prophecies. No Pope or Roman ruler fits the requirements of the Beast, as far as his linage, or other things.
Rome, is a city sets on hills, not mountain as the Bible requires, thus is not Babylon.
Babylon is called the Great City, which in Revelation 11:8 is described as, the great city where the two witnesses are killed by the Beast - the
great city -"where our Lord was crucified", thus it is not Rome that is the great city- Babylon- it is Jerusalem.
No Hebrew would ever think of Rome as the Great City, only a Gentile would do that. To them there is only one Great City- Jerusalem.

Those who promote such false teachings pick and choose those things that look good to their position and exclude the other requirements. Most of those things that seem to support their view are only good from poor translations and a poor understanding of the Bible.

The prophetic events of Revelation are sequential, you can not skip the first few( like the 6 seals and the Rapture) and jump to the middle ( rise of the Antichrist, desolation of the temple,) and jump back again to what you skipped and then back to the rest of the middle and end ( Mark of the Beast, Trumpets and Bowls, etc).

Which is what this Anti RCC theology and Chip/ Economic stuff does.

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It's all a lie from the Lord of Illusions, we don't borrow any value from the fed just monetized debt, fiat currency.

WE DON'T OWE THOSE DEMONS ANYTHING EXCEPT MILITARY TRIBUNALS
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...


I appreciate your thoughts. I have heard many different metaphorical interpretations for the "mark"... one even called it the "love of money".... so I won't be dogmatic in my interpretation of prophecy as I see through a glass dimly.... still with that said I see the AI as somewhat of an omen of control as Babylon has one last gasp.
 Quoting: ChivalryKnight

Any good Bible student knows to look at context, both in the Chapter and in the societal context that was present at the time.
None of this supports the Chip or other Economic only, application of this passage.
 Quoting: The Dr.


I am aware of pretorism's view that the RCC institution fulfilled many of these prophecies on a year for a day time cycle... ie. the 1260 days/years from emperor Justinian 529 AD to the capture of the pope by Napoleon in 1798. The RCC institution could cut people off from much of their source of living or excommunication was almost as bad as banishment in the dark ages... but I can't say that they were the ultimate fulfillment of the prophecy either... just another school of thought. Prophecy can be fulfilled on multiple levels IMHO.
 Quoting: ChivalryKnight

Actually Biblical prophecy can not.
It is quite accurate and explicit. Though it is often disjointed, in that you must know the whole Bible to get all the bits and pieces that fit together. Then you must have a good understanding of the cultures and societies involved to get the deeper meaning.

The RCC does not fit the Prophecies. No Pope or Roman ruler fits the requirements of the Beast, as far as his linage, or other things.
Rome, is a city sets on hills, not mountain as the Bible requires, thus is not Babylon.
Babylon is called the Great City, which in Revelation 11:8 is described as, the great city where the two witnesses are killed by the Beast - the
great city -"where our Lord was crucified", thus it is not Rome that is the great city- Babylon- it is Jerusalem.
No Hebrew would ever think of Rome as the Great City, only a Gentile would do that. To them there is only one Great City- Jerusalem.

Those who promote such false teachings pick and choose those things that look good to their position and exclude the other requirements. Most of those things that seem to support their view are only good from poor translations and a poor understanding of the Bible.

The prophetic events of Revelation are sequential, you can not skip the first few( like the 6 seals and the Rapture) and jump to the middle ( rise of the Antichrist, desolation of the temple,) and jump back again to what you skipped and then back to the rest of the middle and end ( Mark of the Beast, Trumpets and Bowls, etc).

Which is what this Anti RCC theology and Chip/ Economic stuff does.
 Quoting: The Dr.


What is your view or interpretation on the fulfillment of Revelation 13 and the mark?
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6 In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths.

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It's all a lie from the Lord of Illusions, we don't borrow any value from the fed just monetized debt, fiat currency.

WE DON'T OWE THOSE DEMONS ANYTHING EXCEPT MILITARY TRIBUNALS
 Quoting: InterStellar_Hoodrat


The concept of fractional reserve banking is creating money (loaning it into existence) out of thin air.

The debt was created on the American people out of a fraudulent pretext.

Yes we don't owe them anything. If anything our children and grandchildren deserve recompense for all the wars we have fought propping up the petro-dollar.
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6 In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths.

"The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." Jefferson

Laughter is health to the bones so just do it!
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N.E.S.A.R.A and G.E.S.A.R.A


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N.E.S.A.R.A and G.E.S.A.R.A


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 Quoting: xThatGuyx


?

Elaborate please.
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N.E.S.A.R.A and G.E.S.A.R.A


hiding
 Quoting: xThatGuyx


?

Elaborate please.
 Quoting: ChivalryKnight


Still trying to understand it myself. Was told about it by a friend. I have read mixed reviews / thoughts on it - some say its bad and a total conspiracy theory - others like it, but dont see how it would work.

Basically what i am gathering is that there is an economic reset and all debt is forgiven, the Fed / IRS are dismantled, taxes go away, people are paid out a lot of money, etc.

Seem far-fetched to me, personally.





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