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Breaking! Trump listed as "unindicted co-conspirator" in Cohen sentencing memo. | |
Beeleever  User ID: 72035426  United States12/08/2018 12:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | To mask or not to mask - that seems to be the question..... |
| Pilgrim001 User ID: 77021014 United States12/08/2018 12:42 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's hard to take seriously the political musings of someone who cannot spell indict. Quoting: Stella99 That all you have? A typo? The fact of the matter is whether you think it is a nothingburger or not, the left will build it up enough to impeach and charge him. The ball is in their court. Always has been. You are in serious denial. This is all based on the left's refusal to accept the results of the 2016 election. A democratic type country will only work if EVERYONE accepts the results of the election. END OF US Democratic Republic. Dead country walking. This will be fought. Most of the 60,000,000 Trump voters will refuse to accept anything even remotely Leftist. Even if it was Pence, he would not be acceptable. The democraps tried to take a hard swing to the socialist/communist side and it did not work. They failed in rigging the election to win. There is not much left to do. I don't have the time or the crayons to explain this to you. Slake Blake |
| DeplorableOldMan User ID: 76928898 United States12/08/2018 12:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It means that Trump's 4D chess game is over. He lost. They finally got him on something. They will impeach him first in 2019 and then after removal from office, they will indite and jail him. Quoting: Thirdeyeßlind It just became 5D chess, Stormy Daniels, you know her? The one Cohen made payment too to keep out of the press at the request of Trump allegedly break campaign laws, well guess what? She was hired and paid for by Trump to do what she is doing. Trump knew Cohen was a mole and set him up. There was no affair, there was no exchange of money for silence, there was only an acting job and she did her part flawlessly. Remember when Trump said the Storm is coming and a few weeks later Stormy was all over the news? You people really need to keep up. The real US military and the real Americans are behind Trump and this time we are taking names, let us hope your name is not on the list. Traitors all   DeplorableOldMan |
Trained Noticer Forum Moderator User ID: 76014573 United States12/08/2018 12:43 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Cohen was indicted on tax evasion, I believe, and other financial charges from before Trump was president. Fox News Reports: Fox News legal analyst and bestselling author Gregg Jarrett said it's "deceptive and misleading" for pundits and lawmakers to suggest President Trump is an "unindicted co-conspirator" in crimes committed by Michael Cohen. [link to insider.foxnews.com] Cohen plead guilty to eight felonies: Five counts of tax evasion One count of making false statements to a financial institution One count of willfully causing an unlawful corporate contribution One count of making an excessive campaign contribution. Upon conviction Cohen's lawyer tweeted: "Today he stood up and testified under oath that Donald Trump directed him to commit a crime by making payments to two women for the principal purpose of influencing an election. If those payments were a crime for Michael Cohen, then why wouldn't they be a crime for Donald Trump?" Lanny Davis ‏@LannyDavis [link to twitter.com (secure)] The fact is Donald Trump was a client that instructed his attorney to settle a matter. How he chose to settle said matter is up to Cohen to decide. Fox news elaborates on the legal side of things as pertains to politics: "Even if Cohen is telling the truth that Trump directed him to pay off the women, Trump would not have done anything illegal." If Trump was behind the payoffs, it would not have been solely to help his chances in the election, but also for personal and commercial reasons. As long as there is a secondary or dual purpose, the law says it's not a campaign expense. In order to criminalize an illegal campaign contribution, which is normally a civil penalty, prosecutors have to show willful and knowing violation of campaign finance laws. The fact that a prosecutor in New York says this was a crime, and Michael Cohen agrees to that, doesn't make it so. It hasn't been litigated. There was no trial, no judge, no jury. So, Lanny Davis' statement is very misleading and deceptive. It's a big MSM nothing burger. And..and... And Trump directed his staff to take out TV ads promoting his campaign for president--- For the sole purpose of influencing an election!!! Impeach him!!!  For those who believe, no proof is necessary. For those who don't believe, no proof is possible. (Stuart Chase) It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled. (Mark Twain) |
| CSnow User ID: 74827762 United States12/08/2018 12:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Let the war begin. Minorities + Liberal white women VS Christian men. Somebody is in for an ass stomping. Somebody is going to be sorry they started this shit. This is caused by the Left's rejection of the 2016 election. Soros' money won't save their ass. Quoting: Pilgrim001 The war is way larger and more generalized than that. It's not just males or females, whites or blacks, Christians or non-Christians. It's people of the left versus people of the right. It's people who are dishonest, irrational and unethical (which are common traits among the left---common when people think, 'my liberal feeeeelings justify all sins and hypocrisy,') versus people who are honest, sensible and ethical. Yea, there are honest, nice, ethical liberals/leftists and dishonest, un-nice, unethical conservatives/rightists. But when any ideology is resting on "my feeeeelings are wonderful and beautiful---to hell with anything else," that's when the Venezuelas, EUfied, stagnant Europe, crime-ridden South America, George-Orwellian PRC China and dysfunctional urban America are most likely to become the rule, not the exception. . |
| The Ghost of Comedian User ID: 76584227 United States12/08/2018 12:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Patriot_In_Waiting User ID: 77035911 United States12/08/2018 12:50 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It means that Trump's 4D chess game is over. He lost. They finally got him on something. They will impeach him first in 2019 and then after removal from office, they will indite and jail him. Quoting: Thirdeyeßlind Total Silliness. I dont understand why you are saying that? Why are you in denial? The game is over now. You are an unindicted co conspirator. I guess your life is over now? I mean, I typed the magic words. Oh wait. It doesn't mean anything at all. It's a nothing burger. I’d definitely be more concerned about it if it had ANYTHING to do with a crime! Patriot_In_Waiting My name is patriot_in_waiting and I'm a GLPTARD If we get caught.....I'm deaf, and you don't speak English |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 77186361  Greece12/08/2018 12:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The president has VAST emergency powers over the FBI, DOJ, etc. If he doesn't use them, SOON, something is very wrong. Many of you are unaware of these powers, but they have been used regularly by US presidents during times like this, beginning with Roosevelt in 1933 during the banking crisis when the government seized everyone's gold. [link to digitalcommons.law.umaryland.edu (secure)] The president has practically unlimited powers during any State of Emergency - NOT just 'war' (although it is common to declare 'war on' (drugs, poverty, terror, blah) to initiate these powers. Trump hasn't declared a national emergency over the caravan invasion...which he has every presidential right to, nor has he declared an emergency over the prolific voter fraud literally allowing democrats to steal the elections, nor has he declared that he will follow the LAW disallowing communists & socialists into positions within the US government. Thread: THE MORE YOU KNOW: Communism has been Illegal in the USA since 1954 - enforce the damn laws! The president's position isn't meant to be 'whipping boy' for the media or opposition party - the system has measures for all of the above situations... yet Trump isn't using any of his powers. Frankly I'm getting sick of hearing about the 'deep state' while zero indictments, or presidential powers are being used to STOP them. If this continues on it's over... we'll discover it was all talk, no action. I know people won't want to hear this... but it's true. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 77154009  Canada12/08/2018 12:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to twitter.com (secure)] As long as there is a secondary or dual purpose, the law says it's not a campaign expense. It's a big MSM nothing burger. Correct. |
| King Triad User ID: 73503020 United States12/08/2018 12:55 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Fifth-and-a-Half Element User ID: 70581126 United States12/08/2018 12:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Fifth-and-a-Half Element Although this is a commonly held myth, it is incorrect. Accordintg to FEC filings, Donald Trump self-financed only 19.77% of his campaign. Full details here: [link to www.opensecrets.org (secure)] Irrelevant. Money’s used for the NDAs came from Trump’s personal funds. It is not a campaign finance issue. They can try to make it one, but that doesn’t make it so. It won’t hold water in court. (The Senate.) The charge in yesterday's sentencing memos is that the payoffs were made with campaign funds and Trump directed Cohen to make them. Do you just make this shit up? No. The Cohen sentencing memo explicitly stated: "During the campaign, Cohen played a central role in two similar schemes to purchase the rights to stories—each from women who claimed to have had an affair with Individual-1 [Trump]—so as to suppress the stories and thereby prevent them from influencing the election. With respect to both payments, Cohen acted with the intent to influence the 2016 presidential election. Cohen coordinated his actions with one or more members of the campaign, including through meetings and phone calls, about the fact, nature, and timing of the payments. (PSR ¶ 51). In particular, and as Cohen himself has now admitted, with respect to both payments, he acted in coordination with and at the direction of Individual-1." |
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| truthwillsetyoufreeagain User ID: 76994964 United States12/08/2018 12:56 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is no campaign finance violation. Trump used personal funds not campaign finds. This isn't new info btw... why then are they calling him a "co-conspirator"? they did this with Nixon, btw before he was impeached. Nixon impeached? No.  ______________ As long as I am an American citizen and American blood runs in these veins I shall hold myself at liberty to speak, to write, and to publish whatever I please on any subject.” - Elijah Parish Lovejoy(1802-1837) All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent...Thomas Jefferson The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government...Thomas Jefferson When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty...Thomas Jefferson Truth will ultimately prevail where there is pains to bring it to light...George Washington |
| chosendood User ID: 69889817 United States12/08/2018 12:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It means that Trump's 4D chess game is over. He lost. They finally got him on something. They will impeach him first in 2019 and then after removal from office, they will indite and jail him. Quoting: Thirdeyeßlind Total Silliness. I dont understand why you are saying that? Why are you in denial? The game is over now. You are an unindicted co conspirator. I guess your life is over now? I mean, I typed the magic words. Oh wait. It doesn't mean anything at all. It's a nothing burger. DAYUM!!  |
| King Triad User ID: 73503020 United States12/08/2018 12:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
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| The Ghost of Comedian User ID: 76584227 United States12/08/2018 12:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The president has VAST emergency powers over the FBI, DOJ, etc. Quoting: McShillin If he doesn't use them, SOON, something is very wrong. Many of you are unaware of these powers, but they have been used regularly by US presidents during times like this, beginning with Roosevelt in 1933 during the banking crisis when the government seized everyone's gold. [link to digitalcommons.law.umaryland.edu (secure)] The president has practically unlimited powers during any State of Emergency - NOT just 'war' (although it is common to declare 'war on' (drugs, poverty, terror, blah) to initiate these powers. Trump hasn't declared a national emergency over the caravan invasion...which he has every presidential right to, nor has he declared an emergency over the prolific voter fraud literally allowing democrats to steal the elections, nor has he declared that he will follow the LAW disallowing communists & socialists into positions within the US government. Thread: THE MORE YOU KNOW: Communism has been Illegal in the USA since 1954 - enforce the damn laws! The president's position isn't meant to be 'whipping boy' for the media or opposition party - the system has measures for all of the above situations... yet Trump isn't using any of his powers. Frankly I'm getting sick of hearing about the 'deep state' while zero indictments, or presidential powers are being used to STOP them. If this continues on it's over... we'll discover it was all talk, no action. I know people won't want to hear this... but it's true. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news. Mind you, I know nothing. However, could it be that Trump is just concerned about crashing the economy? His apparent inaction may be nothing nefarious. And, he is just one man. Only time will tell. He's still the best President since Reagan. |
| Fifth-and-a-Half Element User ID: 70581126 United States12/08/2018 01:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The likely unindicted co-conspirator is likely someone that was assisting Cohen in his office, they got immunity to pony up ALL the records. Quoting: Jella So who exactly do you think is "Individual-1" who was named as co-conspirator in Cohen's sentencing memo? The coffee boy? Last Edited by Fifth-and-a-Half Element on 12/08/2018 01:03 PM |
| Flower Power User ID: 26832621 United States12/08/2018 01:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I agree with Mcshillen quote--he president has VAST emergency powers over the FBI, DOJ, etc. If he doesn't use them, SOON, something is very wrong. Many of you are unaware of these powers, but they have been used regularly by US presidents during times like this, beginning with Roosevelt in 1933 during the banking crisis when the government seized everyone's gold. This was also said by profit guy who reads others saying he better make it fast when talking about releasing documents, etc. (NOT Mark Taylor) Flower Power |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 77186361 Greece12/08/2018 01:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The president has VAST emergency powers over the FBI, DOJ, etc. Quoting: McShillin If he doesn't use them, SOON, something is very wrong. Many of you are unaware of these powers, but they have been used regularly by US presidents during times like this, beginning with Roosevelt in 1933 during the banking crisis when the government seized everyone's gold. [link to digitalcommons.law.umaryland.edu (secure)] The president has practically unlimited powers during any State of Emergency - NOT just 'war' (although it is common to declare 'war on' (drugs, poverty, terror, blah) to initiate these powers. Trump hasn't declared a national emergency over the caravan invasion...which he has every presidential right to, nor has he declared an emergency over the prolific voter fraud literally allowing democrats to steal the elections, nor has he declared that he will follow the LAW disallowing communists & socialists into positions within the US government. Thread: THE MORE YOU KNOW: Communism has been Illegal in the USA since 1954 - enforce the damn laws! The president's position isn't meant to be 'whipping boy' for the media or opposition party - the system has measures for all of the above situations... yet Trump isn't using any of his powers. Frankly I'm getting sick of hearing about the 'deep state' while zero indictments, or presidential powers are being used to STOP them. If this continues on it's over... we'll discover it was all talk, no action. I know people won't want to hear this... but it's true. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news. Mind you, I know nothing. However, could it be that Trump is just concerned about crashing the economy? His apparent inaction may be nothing nefarious. And, he is just one man. Only time will tell. He's still the best President since Reagan. Could be, I'm sure the bankers are holding alot over his head. However as I mentioned the emergency powers could be used for exactly this situation. If he doesn't use his authority then the system is just too corrupt to survive. If a president can be washed out like this, game over. |
| Fifth-and-a-Half Element User ID: 70581126 United States12/08/2018 01:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I agree with Mcshillen Quoting: Flower Power quote--he president has VAST emergency powers over the FBI, DOJ, etc. If he doesn't use them, SOON, something is very wrong. Many of you are unaware of these powers, but they have been used regularly by US presidents during times like this, beginning with Roosevelt in 1933 during the banking crisis when the government seized everyone's gold. This was also said by profit guy who reads others saying he better make it fast when talking about releasing documents, etc. (NOT Mark Taylor) In other words, using executive powers for obstruction of justice? |
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| Tanticon User ID: 76720150 United States12/08/2018 01:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Fifth-and-a-Half Element Although this is a commonly held myth, it is incorrect. Accordintg to FEC filing Irrelevant. Money’s used for the NDAs came from Trump’s personal funds. It is not a campaign finance issue. They can try to make it one, but that doesn’t make it so. It won’t hold water in court. (The Senate.) The charge in yesterday's sentencing memos is that the payoffs were made with campaign funds and Trump directed Cohen to make them. First of all this is Cohen's word against Trump, Cohen is a bon liar Second unless Cohen has actual proof that Trump directed him to do so and knew about the money was coming from campaign, this will mean nothing You cant impeach or I should say they wont impeach on hear say. With no actual proof So, you dems give it up, Trump ain't going no where Lol Tanticon |
| GT Big hair User ID: 77047161 United States12/08/2018 01:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It means that Trump's 4D chess game is over. He lost. They finally got him on something. They will impeach him first in 2019 and then after removal from office, they will indite and jail him. Quoting: Thirdeyeßlind they will try... but they are gettin' Gitmo ready, and it ain't for anybody supporting POTUS...   GT Big hair...yep and Amen. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 77186361 Greece12/08/2018 01:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I agree with Mcshillen Quoting: Flower Power quote--he president has VAST emergency powers over the FBI, DOJ, etc. If he doesn't use them, SOON, something is very wrong. Many of you are unaware of these powers, but they have been used regularly by US presidents during times like this, beginning with Roosevelt in 1933 during the banking crisis when the government seized everyone's gold. This was also said by profit guy who reads others saying he better make it fast when talking about releasing documents, etc. (NOT Mark Taylor) In other words, using executive powers for obstruction of justice? The FBI & DOJ is under the executive branch along with powers of the treasury department. It's literally the presidents organization, he can direct it as he pleases, it is unrelated to the judicial branch, contrary to commonly held beliefs. This whole thing is a shit-show for public consumption. |
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| Jumpin Jack User ID: 76514849 United States12/08/2018 01:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It means that Trump's 4D chess game is over. He lost. They finally got him on something. They will impeach him first in 2019 and then after removal from office, they will indite and jail him. Quoting: Thirdeyeßlind House may impeach him but the Senate never will, just like Clinton! Last Edited by Jumpin Jack on 12/08/2018 01:18 PM Jumpin Jack |
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