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Anonymous Coward 3373  User ID: 76907144  United States12/17/2018 04:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: I’m so excited to go back to mass tomorrow . I don’t understand why some Christians say Catholics don’t know the Bible . As a former devout catholic; at least, I felt I was... I empathize with your desire For God. Yet, since I Became Born-Again (1984), God has NOT Led me or Directed me to have any further affiliation with the rcc; nor have I "joined" any other church or denomination. Quoting: Lester the rcc obfuscates and Denies The Scripture. the rcc further Denies Christ and The Father. Paying some form of lip service to The Holy Trinity as a mode of captivating their parishoners, their denial of God and HIS Plan for man is very apparent. The mass is false. Once Born-Again (see Ezekiel 36:26-27), God Does Bring us Into HIS Accord and we live our life here on earth In-HIM and With-HIM. The Born-Again IS Enabled By God The Father to KNOW and DO HIS Will and "Keep MY Statutes". All the rcc hierarchy claims for "motherchurch" to be necessary or divinely ordained; is Given Unto Us By Father God.... Jesus' Sacrifice is the theme of the rcc mass. communion with God comes from our Acting Upon our Faith, deciding that we can Trust Father Fully with every aspect of our lives and Telling HIM So. Giving HIM all we are and all we ever can be... There's no sacrament modality for Coming Unto The Father. So-called 'holy orders' are a rite of embracing motherchurch rather than Coming Unto The Father. So much Witness from Christ, St. Paul, and St. John about The Born-Again Life. NONE of their Witness correlates with the rcc rite. Sadly, the mass celebrates Jesus' Sacrifice, but ignores Father's Purpose In Ordaining HIS Son To Die For Us. The Whole Purpose of Christianity is Given In Witness By Christ Jesus in matt 22:1-14. The King's Wedding Feast For HIS Son... It's ALL About Answering Father's Call and being With HIM now and later In Heaven... St. John is the most revered Apostle by the rcc. Yet 'mother' denies John's Witness especially as Given in 1st Epistle 2:20: John is Witnessing of those Born-Again and Says: "But you have An Unction From The Holy One and KNOW All Things!" Such is living this life In Relationship With and In Constant Contact With The Father and HIS Holy Spirit! Christ Jesus Made The Way for us to Come Unto The Father... "...No man Cometh Unto The Father But BY ME!" John 14:6 the rcc denies that we can Come Unto The Father. Got to have 'mother' involved in there; and I'm not talking about Mother Mary. Plenty of apostasy that rcc has enshrined in its rites and dogma; but if the rcc were genuinely Of-God and seeking to Bring Others Unto HIM, it would have no fear of other deniminations or fellowships. I am in no way a "fallen" catholic. I am one who Came Unto The Father by my own free-will and Gave HIM MY life and my will to use as HE Sees Purposed. I have Stood In Father's Presence. I Know HIS Voice, Touch, Feel... I Know HIM BETTER than my own parents or siblings. Really depends on whether you can put your TRUST In God or in an organization which defines HIM to suit their own purposes. You need no man to guide you or instruct you, if you would Come Unto The Father. Being Born-Again, God The Holy Spirit Abides Within you at all times and Guides your life. From Ezekiel ch 36, The Concise Witness of The Born-Again Life: 26. A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh. 27. And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them. John's Witness from ch 2 of his first epistle: 27. But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him. As Christ Witnesses in closing Matt 22:1-14 "For many were Called, but few are Chosen!" If you KNOW WHO Christ Jesus Is, It's Because Father PUT that Knowledge Upon your heart. (matt 16:13-19) All who KNOW WHO HE IS were Called... Only a few chose-elected to Trust Father Completely and Come Unto HIM to be Born-Again. I was just Blessed enough to be full-broken and Enabled to Give HIM My ALL. Changed my life, then and forever! If you Love God First and Foremost; HE Will Do The Same For YOU! Maranatha!!! Thank you for posting this ! Did you never believe in the Eucharist or did you just abandon it? We fear no other denominations. It’s actually the other way around. Anon Coward |
| Anonymous Coward 3373 User ID: 76907144 United States12/17/2018 04:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: I’m so excited to go back to mass tomorrow . I don’t understand why some Christians say Catholics don’t know the Bible . I hadn’t been to mass in over 9 months and before that like 3 years . But I went last week . It was so peaceful . And people say Catholics don’t know the Bible but there are two readings from the Bible as well as one from psalms and a response and also a Gospel reading . We pray out Loud so all the demons can hear us love and show devotion towards our God in the Our Father . We remember Jesus life and death during communion . We believe the Priest brings Christ presence . He was ordained for that. And it goes back to the time of the disciples . It says in the gospels we must eat and drink from Jesus for his bread and blood is life indeed. He says to remember him. It says what sins you forgive are forgiven . Retained are retained . Also baptize in the name of The Father , Son, and Holy Spirit . It’s funny my grandma with my aunt made sure her son was baptized even though her husband is an atheist . She was like this is an evil world he needs his protection and love . Interesting . So he was baptized . Quoting: Whodoyoulivefor I know the church is full of turmoil but that’s because satanists have infiltrated it. But as the pastor of the church I went to last Saturday said “The Church is not dead.” So yeah Catholics do know the Bible . We learn from it daily if you go every day to mass . Which is the only organization that has worship every day . Because your sect invented the rapture hoax? The rapture is not an official teaching of the Catholic Church. It was conceived by fundamentalists and has been promulgated by various non-Catholic denominations since the 1700’s. Stop lying. Why are you bringing up the rapture? OP never did. Anon Coward |
| tiger1 User ID: 76712081 United States12/17/2018 06:40 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: I’m so excited to go back to mass tomorrow . I don’t understand why some Christians say Catholics don’t know the Bible . As a former devout catholic; at least, I felt I was... I empathize with your desire For God. Yet, since I Became Born-Again (1984), God has NOT Led me or Directed me to have any further affiliation with the rcc; nor have I "joined" any other church or denomination. Quoting: Lester the rcc obfuscates and Denies The Scripture. the rcc further Denies Christ and The Father. Paying some form of lip service to The Holy Trinity as a mode of captivating their parishoners, their denial of God and HIS Plan for man is very apparent. The mass is false. Once Born-Again (see Ezekiel 36:26-27), God Does Bring us Into HIS Accord and we live our life here on earth In-HIM and With-HIM. The Born-Again IS Enabled By God The Father to KNOW and DO HIS Will and "Keep MY Statutes". All the rcc hierarchy claims for "motherchurch" to be necessary or divinely ordained; is Given Unto Us By Father God.... Jesus' Sacrifice is the theme of the rcc mass. communion with God comes from our Acting Upon our Faith, deciding that we can Trust Father Fully with every aspect of our lives and Telling HIM So. Giving HIM all we are and all we ever can be... There's no sacrament modality for Coming Unto The Father. So-called 'holy orders' are a rite of embracing motherchurch rather than Coming Unto The Father. So much Witness from Christ, St. Paul, and St. John about The Born-Again Life. NONE of their Witness correlates with the rcc rite. Sadly, the mass celebrates Jesus' Sacrifice, but ignores Father's Purpose In Ordaining HIS Son To Die For Us. The Whole Purpose of Christianity is Given In Witness By Christ Jesus in matt 22:1-14. The King's Wedding Feast For HIS Son... It's ALL About Answering Father's Call and being With HIM now and later In Heaven... St. John is the most revered Apostle by the rcc. Yet 'mother' denies John's Witness especially as Given in 1st Epistle 2:20: John is Witnessing of those Born-Again and Says: "But you have An Unction From The Holy One and KNOW All Things!" Such is living this life In Relationship With and In Constant Contact With The Father and HIS Holy Spirit! Christ Jesus Made The Way for us to Come Unto The Father... "...No man Cometh Unto The Father But BY ME!" John 14:6 the rcc denies that we can Come Unto The Father. Got to have 'mother' involved in there; and I'm not talking about Mother Mary. Plenty of apostasy that rcc has enshrined in its rites and dogma; but if the rcc were genuinely Of-God and seeking to Bring Others Unto HIM, it would have no fear of other deniminations or fellowships. I am in no way a "fallen" catholic. I am one who Came Unto The Father by my own free-will and Gave HIM MY life and my will to use as HE Sees Purposed. I have Stood In Father's Presence. I Know HIS Voice, Touch, Feel... I Know HIM BETTER than my own parents or siblings. Really depends on whether you can put your TRUST In God or in an organization which defines HIM to suit their own purposes. You need no man to guide you or instruct you, if you would Come Unto The Father. Being Born-Again, God The Holy Spirit Abides Within you at all times and Guides your life. From Ezekiel ch 36, The Concise Witness of The Born-Again Life: 26. A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh. 27. And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them. John's Witness from ch 2 of his first epistle: 27. But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him. As Christ Witnesses in closing Matt 22:1-14 "For many were Called, but few are Chosen!" If you KNOW WHO Christ Jesus Is, It's Because Father PUT that Knowledge Upon your heart. (matt 16:13-19) All who KNOW WHO HE IS were Called... Only a few chose-elected to Trust Father Completely and Come Unto HIM to be Born-Again. I was just Blessed enough to be full-broken and Enabled to Give HIM My ALL. Changed my life, then and forever! If you Love God First and Foremost; HE Will Do The Same For YOU! Maranatha!!! Thank you for posting this ! Did you never believe in the Eucharist or did you just abandon it? We fear no other denominations. It’s actually the other way around. Orthodox have the Real Presence too. The Catholic Church recognizes this, and the Orthodox Priests are considered valid Priests by the Catholic Church.The Catholic Church considers Orthodox as a "sister" church, and if you cannot attend Mass at a Catholic Church for some reason, you can fulfill your Sunday obligation by going to an Orthodox Church, and receive the Eucharist. OTOH, Orthodox consider Roman Catholic to be heretical. Seeing what is sitting on Peter's seat, that is a very accurate analysis. Byzantine Catholic is a bridge to Orthodox. There is no difference other than the fact Byzantine Catholic is under the pope. Praise God from Whom all Blessings flow !!! |
| Jesus Christ Is God Almighty! User ID: 76686910 United States12/17/2018 07:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: I’m so excited to go back to mass tomorrow . I don’t understand why some Christians say Catholics don’t know the Bible . I hadn’t been to mass in over 9 months and before that like 3 years . But I went last week . It was so peaceful . And people say Catholics don’t know the Bible but there are two readings from the Bible as well as one from psalms and a response and also a Gospel reading . We pray out Loud so all the demons can hear us love and show devotion towards our God in the Our Father . We remember Jesus life and death during communion . We believe the Priest brings Christ presence . He was ordained for that. And it goes back to the time of the disciples . It says in the gospels we must eat and drink from Jesus for his bread and blood is life indeed. He says to remember him. It says what sins you forgive are forgiven . Retained are retained . Also baptize in the name of The Father , Son, and Holy Spirit . It’s funny my grandma with my aunt made sure her son was baptized even though her husband is an atheist . She was like this is an evil world he needs his protection and love . Interesting . So he was baptized . Quoting: Whodoyoulivefor I know the church is full of turmoil but that’s because satanists have infiltrated it. But as the pastor of the church I went to last Saturday said “The Church is not dead.” So yeah Catholics do know the Bible . We learn from it daily if you go every day to mass . Which is the only organization that has worship every day . Because your sect invented the rapture hoax? The rapture is not an official teaching of the Catholic Church. It was conceived by fundamentalists and has been promulgated by various non-Catholic denominations since the 1700’s. Stop lying. Enoch, Ezra, Elijah, Jesus were raptured. Others have been temporarily raptured like Paul and John the Revelator. Jesus himself promises to gather his elect and children and holy resurrected from off the earth and to meet him in the sky among the clouds of angels at his appearing. Do as much research as others before talking about subjects you aren't well informed of. Jesus Christ is God. Read the Holy Bible, keep his commandments, obey all of his commands, save your soul. Jesus blesses you! <3 |
| Lester User ID: 77211263 United States12/17/2018 07:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: I’m so excited to go back to mass tomorrow . I don’t understand why some Christians say Catholics don’t know the Bible . As a former devout catholic; at least, I felt I was... I empathize with your desire For God. Yet, since I Became Born-Again (1984), God has NOT Led me or Directed me to have any further affiliation with the rcc; nor have I "joined" any other church or denomination. Quoting: Lester the rcc obfuscates and Denies The Scripture. the rcc further Denies Christ and The Father. Paying some form of lip service to The Holy Trinity as a mode of captivating their parishoners, their denial of God and HIS Plan for man is very apparent. The mass is false. Once Born-Again (see Ezekiel 36:26-27), God Does Bring us Into HIS Accord and we live our life here on earth In-HIM and With-HIM. The Born-Again IS Enabled By God The Father to KNOW and DO HIS Will and "Keep MY Statutes". All the rcc hierarchy claims for "motherchurch" to be necessary or divinely ordained; is Given Unto Us By Father God.... Jesus' Sacrifice is the theme of the rcc mass. communion with God comes from our Acting Upon our Faith, deciding that we can Trust Father Fully with every aspect of our lives and Telling HIM So. Giving HIM all we are and all we ever can be... There's no sacrament modality for Coming Unto The Father. So-called 'holy orders' are a rite of embracing motherchurch rather than Coming Unto The Father. So much Witness from Christ, St. Paul, and St. John about The Born-Again Life. NONE of their Witness correlates with the rcc rite. Sadly, the mass celebrates Jesus' Sacrifice, but ignores Father's Purpose In Ordaining HIS Son To Die For Us. The Whole Purpose of Christianity is Given In Witness By Christ Jesus in matt 22:1-14. The King's Wedding Feast For HIS Son... It's ALL About Answering Father's Call and being With HIM now and later In Heaven... St. John is the most revered Apostle by the rcc. Yet 'mother' denies John's Witness especially as Given in 1st Epistle 2:20: John is Witnessing of those Born-Again and Says: "But you have An Unction From The Holy One and KNOW All Things!" Such is living this life In Relationship With and In Constant Contact With The Father and HIS Holy Spirit! Christ Jesus Made The Way for us to Come Unto The Father... "...No man Cometh Unto The Father But BY ME!" John 14:6 the rcc denies that we can Come Unto The Father. Got to have 'mother' involved in there; and I'm not talking about Mother Mary. Plenty of apostasy that rcc has enshrined in its rites and dogma; but if the rcc were genuinely Of-God and seeking to Bring Others Unto HIM, it would have no fear of other deniminations or fellowships. I am in no way a "fallen" catholic. I am one who Came Unto The Father by my own free-will and Gave HIM MY life and my will to use as HE Sees Purposed. I have Stood In Father's Presence. I Know HIS Voice, Touch, Feel... I Know HIM BETTER than my own parents or siblings. Really depends on whether you can put your TRUST In God or in an organization which defines HIM to suit their own purposes. You need no man to guide you or instruct you, if you would Come Unto The Father. Being Born-Again, God The Holy Spirit Abides Within you at all times and Guides your life. From Ezekiel ch 36, The Concise Witness of The Born-Again Life: 26. A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh. 27. And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them. John's Witness from ch 2 of his first epistle: 27. But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him. As Christ Witnesses in closing Matt 22:1-14 "For many were Called, but few are Chosen!" If you KNOW WHO Christ Jesus Is, It's Because Father PUT that Knowledge Upon your heart. (matt 16:13-19) All who KNOW WHO HE IS were Called... Only a few chose-elected to Trust Father Completely and Come Unto HIM to be Born-Again. I was just Blessed enough to be full-broken and Enabled to Give HIM My ALL. Changed my life, then and forever! If you Love God First and Foremost; HE Will Do The Same For YOU! Maranatha!!! Thank you for posting this ! Did you never believe in the Eucharist or did you just abandon it? We fear no other denominations. It’s actually the other way around. catholic schools from grade 1 through university. most of the sacraments, except extreme unction & holy orders... Probably you weren't catholic educated, or you would have better reading comprehension. I did state that had I known in advance that turning my life over Unto The Father would cause me to leave the rcc; I would have sought another way... As for "believing in the eucharist"; of course! What catholicism has NO WITNESS Of is The Born-Again Life. By Coming Unto The Father, I was Brought Into HIS Accord. I Was Given To KNOW HIM Personally and Directly. There's no more "belief" or "faith" within my being... It was superseded by KNOWING! Your, (or mine) beliefs mean NOTHING! If you Trust God Fully and Tell HIM So by Coming Unto The Father, then you too could be Brought Into Relationship and KNOWING. catholicism is NOT The Way Unto The Father. Jesus Witnesses, "I am the Truth, The Light and The Way; NO Man Cometh Unto The Father BUT BY ME!" John 14:6 also..."Marvel not that I Say unto you, YE MUST Be Born-Again!" John 7:3 God doesn't need priests or any of the catholic clergy to Bring Those HE Has Called Unto HIM... Want to put barriers between you and God; stay catholic... Lots of substantiation Witnes from St. John in First Epistle ch 2. "But you (not you, you're not Born-Again) Have AN Unction From The Holy One and KNOW ALL Things!" v.20 and in v.27 John Says "But the anointing which ye have received OF HIM abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him." catholicism denies The Witness of Christ and Father-God. the rcc rite and dogma serve God's enemy by denying parishioners the opportunity to hear True Witness. Lots of Witness from Jesus about who will be REJECTED. Love catholicism more than Christ and The Father? You have been conditioned exactly for this. I was... Everything that matters to God relates to your heart. You must have enough Love For HIM and Trust to Take Action and surrender your life Unto The Father. Mother Mary lies dead in her grave. There was no assumption. Father-God has not endowed priests with any powers of transubstantiation. The host is a wafer, not Christ's Body. The eucharist wine is wine, not HIS Blood. HIS Blood WAS Shed for all men so that we could Come Unto The Father and Live With and In-HIM NOW and for ever... There's no holy priesthood or other special class of men/women. We are either Born-Again and Alive In-HIM; or we're not! You are not... But you could be; if you Trust God Enough to Take Action by Giving HIM Your Life... the rcc has made its parishoners dysfunctional through fear and teachings that Father NEVER Ordained... who is served by rcc denial of The Gospel? It sure ain't God The Father or any of The Holy Trinity. |
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| Lester User ID: 77211263 United States12/17/2018 08:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: I’m so excited to go back to mass tomorrow . I don’t understand why some Christians say Catholics don’t know the Bible . Here's Jesus' Witness of The Born-Again Life: John ch 17. The ONLY Witness ever Given In Form of A Prayer: 1. These words spake Jesus, and lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said, Father, the hour is come; glorify thy Son, that thy Son also may glorify thee: 2. As thou hast given him power over all flesh, that he should give eternal life to as many as thou hast given him. 3. And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent. 4. I have glorified thee on the earth: I have finished the work which thou gavest me to do. 5. And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was. 6. I have manifested thy name unto the men which thou gavest me out of the world: thine they were, and thou gavest them me; and they have kept thy word. 7. Now they have known that all things whatsoever thou hast given me are of thee. 8. For I have given unto them the words which thou gavest me; and they have received them, and have known surely that I came out from thee, and they have believed that thou didst send me. 9. I pray for them: I pray not for the world, but for them which thou hast given me; for they are thine. 10. And all mine are thine, and thine are mine; and I am glorified in them. 11. And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we are. 12. While I was with them in the world, I kept them in thy name: those that thou gavest me I have kept, and none of them is lost, but the son of perdition; that the scripture might be fulfilled. 13. And now come I to thee; and these things I speak in the world, that they might have my joy fulfilled in themselves. 14. I have given them thy word; and the world hath hated them, because they are not of the world, even as I am not of the world. 15. I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil. 16. They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world. 17. Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth. 18. As thou hast sent me into the world, even so have I also sent them into the world. 19. And for their sakes I sanctify myself, that they also might be sanctified through the truth. 20. Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word; 21. That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me. 22. And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one: 23. I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me. 24. Father, I will that they also, whom thou hast given me, be with me where I am; that they may behold my glory, which thou hast given me: for thou lovedst me before the foundation of the world. 25. O righteous Father, the world hath not known thee: but I have known thee, and these have known that thou hast sent me. 26. And I have declared unto them thy name, and will declare it: that the love wherewith thou hast loved me may be in them, and I in them. Jesus in John 17 Witnesses YOUR LIFE; IF you are Ezekiel 36:26-27 Born-Again. Most Christians never hear about Jesus' Witness of The Born-Again Life. Most teachers/preachers/ministers in Laodicea ARE NOT Born-Again themselves. "For Many were Called, but few are Chosen!" Matt 22:14 The concluding Witness of Jesus' Teaching of the whole purpose of Christianity. The King's Wedding Feast For HIS Son... Matt 22:1-14 God CHOSE you, IF HE Put Knowledge Of WHO Jesus IS on your heart. Up to you to Choose whether you will Come Unto The Father or not. You can read John 17 verses 1-8 and maybe understand who Father Has Entrusted Unto Christ Jesus, and who Jesus Returned Unto HIS Father before HIS crucifixion. NOTHING in catholicism will encourage you to Trust God Fully and make your surrender. |
| Ozric User ID: 76792171 United States12/17/2018 08:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: I’m so excited to go back to mass tomorrow . I don’t understand why some Christians say Catholics don’t know the Bible . or the repetitious prayer (the rosary) or idols..rosary beads, all the statues and jewelry or the changing of the 10 commandments or the cash cow called purgatory or the idea that Mary is still a virgin even though Christ had siblings or praying to the dead or placing the forgiveness of sin on works rather than simple belief if Christ and acceptance of the Gospel or shall I continue? respectfully I do exist, I'm pretty sure :) |
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| okydoky User ID: 77151849 United States12/17/2018 08:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: I’m so excited to go back to mass tomorrow . I don’t understand why some Christians say Catholics don’t know the Bible . Do you not have your own bible as well as a kj version? Do you not worship Mary? it isn't whether you believe in God or Jesus, its what you do that goes against Scripture. Do you believe in the Trinity? Jesus said in Matthew 4:10, "You shall worship the Lord your God and Him only shall you serve." If we worship God in spirit and in truth, we cannot worship anyone or anything else. Anything we worship, other than God, is an idol. According to Webster, an idol is "an image used as an object or instrument of worship." God forbids us to make and worship idols. God says in Exodus 20:4-5, "You shall not make for yourself a carved image, any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; you shall not bow down to them nor serve them. For I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God." We see we are not to make any image whether it is a statue or any likeness of anything in heaven or earth to worship them. But this is done today when people worship icons. People bow down and pray to these statues and painted pictures whether they be the supposed likeness of Mary the mother of Jesus or one of the many other dead people who are called saints. This is in direct disobedience to the command of God. When I see people bowing down, burning candles, praying, and worshipping an icon image of a saint, my heart bleeds for them because they are putting their souls in jeopardy of being lost. We are warned in Colossians 2:18, "Let no one cheat you of your reward, taking delight in false humility and worshipping angels." We can loose our reward in heaven if we worship someone other than God. He is the only one we are to worship because He is a jealous God. God will not allow us to worship anyone else other than Himself. Revelations 21:8 tells us that "idolaters shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death." We must only worship God and our worship must be in spirit and in truth if we expect to be with Him in heaven when this life is over. HOPEFULLY THIS WILL HELP? |
| Ozric User ID: 76792171 United States12/17/2018 09:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: I’m so excited to go back to mass tomorrow . I don’t understand why some Christians say Catholics don’t know the Bible . Do you not have your own bible as well as a kj version? Do you not worship Mary? it isn't whether you believe in God or Jesus, its what you do that goes against Scripture. Do you believe in the Trinity? Quoting: okydoky Jesus said in Matthew 4:10, "You shall worship the Lord your God and Him only shall you serve." If we worship God in spirit and in truth, we cannot worship anyone or anything else. Anything we worship, other than God, is an idol. According to Webster, an idol is "an image used as an object or instrument of worship." God forbids us to make and worship idols. God says in Exodus 20:4-5, "You shall not make for yourself a carved image, any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; you shall not bow down to them nor serve them. For I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God." We see we are not to make any image whether it is a statue or any likeness of anything in heaven or earth to worship them. But this is done today when people worship icons. People bow down and pray to these statues and painted pictures whether they be the supposed likeness of Mary the mother of Jesus or one of the many other dead people who are called saints. This is in direct disobedience to the command of God. When I see people bowing down, burning candles, praying, and worshipping an icon image of a saint, my heart bleeds for them because they are putting their souls in jeopardy of being lost. We are warned in Colossians 2:18, "Let no one cheat you of your reward, taking delight in false humility and worshipping angels." We can loose our reward in heaven if we worship someone other than God. He is the only one we are to worship because He is a jealous God. God will not allow us to worship anyone else other than Himself. Revelations 21:8 tells us that "idolaters shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death." We must only worship God and our worship must be in spirit and in truth if we expect to be with Him in heaven when this life is over. HOPEFULLY THIS WILL HELP? Hopefully , even one helped would be good...that individual will be very grateful later on... well rounded post there ... I do exist, I'm pretty sure :) |
| across the board User ID: 1038169 United States12/18/2018 03:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: I’m so excited to go back to mass tomorrow . I don’t understand why some Christians say Catholics don’t know the Bible . Dear OP: to your feelings and statements about Mass and the Bible, may I respond one at a time: It was so peaceful . And people say Catholics don’t know the Bible but there are two readings from the Bible as well as one from psalms and a response and also a Gospel reading . We pray out Loud so all the demons can hear us love and show devotion towards our God in the Our Father . Quoting: Whodoyoulivefor It should be peaceful. That is nothing hard to accomplish, it is a building, with no noise, and your idea of a Father who is your God, a mother who is your mediatrix (mediator), and a son-saviour figure, and other spirit beings, are all depicted there, to love you and to help you. Plus it may have Gregorian chants and tones to put you into a serene mood and alter your brain waves and focus your thoughts, as you say, or block out other distracting things in your fragmented life areas which are NOT peaceful. Nothing hard here, to accomplish, your images of peaceful things you have been taught since an infant are all around you. There is nothing unusual about this. Mass itself, is a powerful rite, a powerful spiritual ritual. At Mass, (which is a death-related ritual) the intonations used, prescribed and soft actions are those which you expect, (which also lends its influence to put the congregants into an altered state - spiritual, mental, emotional limbic physical), are also designed to put you into an altered (no pun) state which having none of the characteristics of war, violations of your safety, lacking any known deceptions, you PERCEIVE as peace. |
| across the board User ID: 1038169 United States12/18/2018 03:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: I’m so excited to go back to mass tomorrow . I don’t understand why some Christians say Catholics don’t know the Bible . Next, your statement that : "people say Catholics don’t know the Bible but there are two readings from the Bible - (Wow, that's a lot) " - as well as one from psalms (another Wow) and a response and also a Gospel reading " may I respond with a question about 'a response' to the Bible readings? This is another rote action which tends to put you into a very different state than you normally are, almost like putting you asleep. (Also, the Church is usually darkened). These are age-old methods of the priesthood to PUT us under a sort of influence, it is not new, or special, and is not for your BEST interests. To have a lot of people under a kind of spell, which is what is happening in church, (yours and others like it, most of them) is the way they bypass your critical/logical thinking parts of your brain, and increase your satisfaction with the 'services' you go to participate in. Do you give any money to the church? |
| across the board User ID: 1038169 United States12/18/2018 03:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: I’m so excited to go back to mass tomorrow . I don’t understand why some Christians say Catholics don’t know the Bible . Do you read the Bible yourself? Or do you just scan it sometime, and get the rest of your Bible info from Church services and Mass? What do you know about the purpose of Mass, really? What do you REALLY know about Midnight Masses at Christmas? And - why do you believe what they are telling you is the truth? Do your Fathers and Priests believe the Bible, and how do you know? (do they even know it? I mean, really KNOW what it says?) |
| across the board User ID: 1038169 United States12/18/2018 03:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: I’m so excited to go back to mass tomorrow . I don’t understand why some Christians say Catholics don’t know the Bible . My next question related to the above one is, Then, if they KNOW and BELEIVE the Bible, Why do the priests of the Church ignore what it says, and do the exact things it says not to ever do? This is clear that either (1) They do know but do not believe it (The Bible) or, they are ignorant officials parading in robes pretending to know, and are lying. Which one do you think it is? They do not believe in the Bible, or they do not really KNOW ANY ERRORS (this in the Bible really is known as SIN, since they have ample opportunity to know what the Bible says, having taken it upon themselves to say they are AUTHORIZED TO TEACH YOU ITS CONTENTS, and are the mediators between you and the God - as priests, and speak the word of God, - the Pope) ? If there are any 'errors' in daily prayers, rituals, practices, and their doctrines go against the CRYSTAL CLEAR commandments and warnings of the Bible, IS/would that be ALARMING TO YOU? |
| across the board User ID: 1038169 United States12/18/2018 03:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: I’m so excited to go back to mass tomorrow . I don’t understand why some Christians say Catholics don’t know the Bible . Do you read the Bible yourself? Quoting: across the board Or do you just scan it sometime, and get the rest of your Bible info from Church services and Mass? What do you know about the purpose of Mass, really? What do you REALLY know about Midnight Masses at Christmas? Have you ever been encouraged to read the Bible and study to see if what they are doing is correct by IT? Who is your authority, - is it your Bible? Or, is it man? A man? Who wants to be your authority in your most important thing in life, besides your physical health? (Your spiritual condition). |
| across the board User ID: 1038169 United States12/18/2018 03:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: I’m so excited to go back to mass tomorrow . I don’t understand why some Christians say Catholics don’t know the Bible . Who IS your Father, who they call God? And Who IS Jesus? And What or Who IS the Holy Spirit? Please, tell. You are going there so many years, you should know these things and tell us. You should not be confused or be vague, and act like we know what you mean when you say, 'God', or 'Jesus' or, 'The Holy Spirit'. What is your Church's God? The Trinity, we know they say that, and he is 'One', but I mean, Who IS IT? All Monotheistic religions say there is One God: Caholic, Christian, Islam, Judaism, Satanism. How do you differentiate from the others, your god? By the things you do? It is not what you call your God, because they all call their God 'God' also. Please answer and tell me who your God REALLY IS. |
| across the board User ID: 1038169 United States12/18/2018 04:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: I’m so excited to go back to mass tomorrow . I don’t understand why some Christians say Catholics don’t know the Bible . In the Bible, it says to 'call no man Father' on earth. This means not your physical Dad, (for that would be silly), but towards a priest, because it is not true. He (all the Church 'Fathers') is not your father, so do not call any other man 'Father' in reverence. Also in the Bible, the Egyptians also had a saviour who was the son of Osiris and Isis. How is your any different than theirs, because if you want to go by the Biblical manuscripts, the saviour there is not 'Jesus' (not his name) and the Egyptians were not saved, because their saviour and God were forbidden. Also, their Goddess was part of that forbidden doctrine of Sun God, Goddess and their Solar Saviour figure. Why does your church put so much reverence into the Mary devotions? She was just a woman, according to the Bible, and the Saviour in there said not to give his mother any more reverence than you would your own mother. And, she did not remain a virgin, after the first son was born to her and Joseph. So who IS your Mary? She seems like she is an incarnation of the Egyption Goddess (forbidden) who also remained a virgin forever. 'No mortal hath lifted my veil' she said. EVER. The Goddess of the ancient mysteries, whose practices are seemingly IDENTICAL TO THOSE OF YOUR CHURCH. TODAY. TONITE. at Christmas, at Mass, at Easter. All these = forbidden (if they knew the Bible, they would know that). Oh they do KNOW IT, and STILL DO THESE SINS?? |
| across the board User ID: 1038169 United States12/18/2018 04:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: I’m so excited to go back to mass tomorrow . I don’t understand why some Christians say Catholics don’t know the Bible . You do know that the Biblical saviour was NOT born in the winter or at any time around the winter SOLSTICE, right? So whose birth day are you celebrating at Christ Mass? Not the Biblical saviour's, that is certain. So why do you feel right about doing it? (doing as a practice and belief you swear to ~ knowing that that SOMETHING is against Biblical doctrine and precepts, and against every instruction to you as to HOW TO worship in TRUTH?) |
| across the board User ID: 1038169 United States12/18/2018 04:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: I’m so excited to go back to mass tomorrow . I don’t understand why some Christians say Catholics don’t know the Bible . so, in the Bible, (which you say you know) or at least are interested in knowing the saviour is his own person, his separate unique self, an individual entity, who was conceived by Miriam thru the Spirit of the Creator, who was NOT named 'GOD', and had a PERSONAL, given NAME. In your church doctrine, however, as in Egyptian Mysteries and also Babylonian, and Sumerian, it is not that way. Your Jesus or Christ and their saviour FIGURE (Horus, Her, Hor, Dammuz, Tammuz) are NOT their own, separate unique and individual SELF. They ALL ARE INCARNATIONS OF THE FATHER, only, not just 'related' to the Father, but are actually the God REBORN as an infant (who is always SOLAR IN THESE MYSTERIES, hence he is born at or soon after the winter solstice). This is WAY DIFFERENT THAN THE BIBLICAL NARRATIVE. If you read the bible like you are commanded to in the Bible, (or to study somehow, if you cannot read yourself, have audiotapes or someone read it to you) then, you would not be GOING TO A CHURCH like yours. You would not be churching anywhere, probably, but just studying by yourself, seriously. That is, if YOU BELIEVE the BIBLE. |
| across the board User ID: 1038169 United States12/18/2018 04:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: I’m so excited to go back to mass tomorrow . I don’t understand why some Christians say Catholics don’t know the Bible . and THEY (your priests) took OUT WHOLE PORTIONS, WHOLESALE changing it to fit their 'OLD RELIGION', a Mystery Religion! which went as far back as you can go in human history, that we now know of! This SIN the people ignored, and was called 'pious fraud'. PIOUS FRAUD? Isn't that a contradiction? That's like saying, I'm going to lie to you ABOUT THIS RELIGION AND THIS BOOK THE BIBLE, but it's for your own good' and YOU ~ AND TRILLIONS MORE LIKE YOU ~ THINK that this is ALL RIGHT!!??? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 29580574 United States12/18/2018 04:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: I’m so excited to go back to mass tomorrow . I don’t understand why some Christians say Catholics don’t know the Bible . I hadn’t been to mass in over 9 months and before that like 3 years . But I went last week . It was so peaceful . And people say Catholics don’t know the Bible but there are two readings from the Bible as well as one from psalms and a response and also a Gospel reading . We pray out Loud so all the demons can hear us love and show devotion towards our God in the Our Father . We remember Jesus life and death during communion . We believe the Priest brings Christ presence . He was ordained for that. And it goes back to the time of the disciples . It says in the gospels we must eat and drink from Jesus for his bread and blood is life indeed. He says to remember him. It says what sins you forgive are forgiven . Retained are retained . Also baptize in the name of The Father , Son, and Holy Spirit . It’s funny my grandma with my aunt made sure her son was baptized even though her husband is an atheist . She was like this is an evil world he needs his protection and love . Interesting . So he was baptized . Quoting: Whodoyoulivefor I know the church is full of turmoil but that’s because satanists have infiltrated it. But as the pastor of the church I went to last Saturday said “The Church is not dead.” So yeah Catholics do know the Bible . We learn from it daily if you go every day to mass . Which is the only organization that has worship every day . Because your sect invented the rapture hoax? The rapture is not an official teaching of the Catholic Church. It was conceived by fundamentalists and has been promulgated by various non-Catholic denominations since the 1700’s. Stop lying. Enoch, Ezra, Elijah, Jesus were raptured. Others have been temporarily raptured like Paul and John the Revelator. Jesus himself promises to gather his elect and children and holy resurrected from off the earth and to meet him in the sky among the clouds of angels at his appearing. Do as much research as others before talking about subjects you aren't well informed of. Oh, I’m very well informed. Let’s break down what I said and the context and then look at your response. OK. Hostess Cupcake posted that the Catholic Church invented the rapture hoax. I correctly stated that the rapture is not a teaching of the Catholic Church. Then I said that the rapture idea came from non-Catholic denominations over the last couple hundred years. Then you insult me by saying that I am uninformed and don’t do research. How did my statement lead you to think I am uninformed and lacking in study? Everything I said was true. That is the tactic you use in most of your posts. You condescend to people. Here is a tip: people don’t respond well to condescending attitudes. Have you ever heard that you catch more flies with honey than vinegar? Another thing you do is use phrases like “God bless you” aggressively (not here but elsewhere, but this seems like a good time to address it). I used to do this when I was a young born again 25 years ago. In my case the motive was to conceal my anger and “stick it” to whoever I was talking with. I was not actually wishing anyone a blessing. I can’t say that’s what is in your heart when you do it (in a passive-aggressive karma message you left me last month for example), because I don’t know your heart. Humility is the cure for this though. I lack humility myself too often, so I get it. I imagine it is even tougher for people who consider themselves to be prophets or perhaps even one of the two witnesses. I can’t say for sure because I am neither. (Parts of this paragraph were edited for clarity) |
| across the board User ID: 1038169 United States12/18/2018 04:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: I’m so excited to go back to mass tomorrow . I don’t understand why some Christians say Catholics don’t know the Bible . The reason they did this is because (you can prove this, and you should, to your own separate unique responsible selves) they DON'T LIKE the CREATOR put forth in the Bible, so they DON'T LIKE it if YOU read, and come to KNOW about HIM. Or His (REAL) SAVIOUR, THE BIBLICAL MESSIAH. (not Jesus! not Tammuz! not Baal! not named 'the Lord', and that is why they USE those WRONG identifiers and TEACH YOU OF THE SOLAR SAVIOUR, WHO IS A BABY OF THE SOLAR/SATURNIAN GOD and a human woman was the prototype of your old worn out Goddess, named so many names, but is always recognisable as her titles include 'Lady of Roses', 'The Queen of Heaven', and 'Mother of All, and Mother of GOD"!) Ast, Est, Iset, Ist, Istar, Ishtar, Astart, Ashtarte, Ashtaroth, Isis, Inanna, Donna, Mea Domina, and yes, ... they are such cheap opportunits, knowing the mother of the Biblical saviour was named MIRIAM, they use 'Mary' for your modern version of the same Goddess of Old. The Old Religion is FORBIDDEN TO ALL WHO WOULD BELIEVE IN THE BIBLE. So knowing that the Triune Godhead or Trinity doctrine is not found in the original manuscripts, but that it was PUT IN LATER BY CHURCH FATHERS, you can throw that right out of your heads and hearts, right now, with all truth of Scriptures and history corroborating that. There is only a Father and a son in the Biblical narrative or account of the truth. THE CHURCH DID NOT LIKE THIS TRUTH ~ SO THEY OVERRODE IT, WROTE OVER IT, ADDED THEIR TRINITY TO IT, and pretended like it is Biblical truth. TRINITY IS NOT TRUE (according to the Bible, that is) So do you still feel like trusting your CHURCH 'FATHER' PEOPLE WHO ADMIT theY LIED TO YOU ABOUT ALL OF THIS being ORIGINAL SCRIPTURES, but think YOU SHOULD STILL RESPECT AND OBEY THEIR WORDS unto your very own deaths? THAT sounds like some very strong black magic. And THAT when you find out all the facts, is WHAT IT IS. They are PROS. They have been at it for quite a long time. They are receiving the spirit of lies and death and want to pass it on to you, for their goal is of their God Father, who is not the Creator Father of the Bible. They call your God and Saviour Sol Invictus, in Rome, the Pope, you know, the whole bunch of them. That means the Invincible Sun/Solar Deity/Entity. That is not the Father Creator in the Biblical account, and goes against all the teachings in the Scriptures, if you were to read your bible, you would not be ignorant of these things which constitute mass deceptions on a grand scale, and with which you are all seemingly perfectly brainwashed (hurt and damaged goods, incapable of appreciating facts and truths, and seemingly satisfied, even thralled with, LIES OF THE LIARS YOU CALL REVERENTLY 'FATHER'!!!! Do you remember or know that the Devil is called 'The Father of LIES' in the bible, by the Creators? Father Devil. Remember that, next time you call a priest of your Church 'Father...'. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 29580574 United States12/18/2018 04:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: I’m so excited to go back to mass tomorrow . I don’t understand why some Christians say Catholics don’t know the Bible . or the repetitious prayer (the rosary) or idols..rosary beads, all the statues and jewelry or the changing of the 10 commandments or the cash cow called purgatory or the idea that Mary is still a virgin even though Christ had siblings or praying to the dead or placing the forgiveness of sin on works rather than simple belief if Christ and acceptance of the Gospel or shall I continue? respectfully I don’t have time right now to address all of your points, but to the repetitive prayers of the rosary argument you are likely referring to Matthew 6. The passage says “...use not VAIN repetitions”. I would argue that, depending upon the attention given them and the motive behind them, the rosary prayers are not “vain”. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 29580574 United States12/18/2018 04:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: I’m so excited to go back to mass tomorrow . I don’t understand why some Christians say Catholics don’t know the Bible . The reason they did this is because (you can prove this, and you should, to your own separate unique responsible selves) Quoting: across the board they DON'T LIKE the CREATOR put forth in the Bible, so they DON'T LIKE it if YOU read, and come to KNOW about HIM. Or His (REAL) SAVIOUR, THE BIBLICAL MESSIAH. (not Jesus! not Tammuz! not Baal! not named 'the Lord', and that is why they USE those WRONG identifiers and TEACH YOU OF THE SOLAR SAVIOUR, WHO IS A BABY OF THE SOLAR/SATURNIAN GOD and a human woman was the prototype of your old worn out Goddess, named so many names, but is always recognisable as her titles include 'Lady of Roses', 'The Queen of Heaven', and 'Mother of All, and Mother of GOD"!) Ast, Est, Iset, Ist, Istar, Ishtar, Astart, Ashtarte, Ashtaroth, Isis, Inanna, Donna, Mea Domina, and yes, ... they are such cheap opportunits, knowing the mother of the Biblical saviour was named MIRIAM, they use 'Mary' for your modern version of the same Goddess of Old. The Old Religion is FORBIDDEN TO ALL WHO WOULD BELIEVE IN THE BIBLE. So knowing that the Triune Godhead or Trinity doctrine is not found in the original manuscripts, but that it was PUT IN LATER BY CHURCH FATHERS, you can throw that right out of your heads and hearts, right now, with all truth of Scriptures and history corroborating that. There is only a Father and a son in the Biblical narrative or account of the truth. THE CHURCH DID NOT LIKE THIS TRUTH ~ SO THEY OVERRODE IT, WROTE OVER IT, ADDED THEIR TRINITY TO IT, and pretended like it is Biblical truth. TRINITY IS NOT TRUE (according to the Bible, that is) So do you still feel like trusting your CHURCH 'FATHER' PEOPLE WHO ADMIT theY LIED TO YOU ABOUT ALL OF THIS being ORIGINAL SCRIPTURES, but think YOU SHOULD STILL RESPECT AND OBEY THEIR WORDS unto your very own deaths? THAT sounds like some very strong black magic. And THAT when you find out all the facts, is WHAT IT IS. They are PROS. They have been at it for quite a long time. They are receiving the spirit of lies and death and want to pass it on to you, for their goal is of their God Father, who is not the Creator Father of the Bible. They call your God and Saviour Sol Invictus, in Rome, the Pope, you know, the whole bunch of them. That means the Invincible Sun/Solar Deity/Entity. That is not the Father Creator in the Biblical account, and goes against all the teachings in the Scriptures, if you were to read your bible, you would not be ignorant of these things which constitute mass deceptions on a grand scale, and with which you are all seemingly perfectly brainwashed (hurt and damaged goods, incapable of appreciating facts and truths, and seemingly satisfied, even thralled with, LIES OF THE LIARS YOU CALL REVERENTLY 'FATHER'!!!! Do you remember or know that the Devil is called 'The Father of LIES' in the bible, by the Creators? Father Devil. Remember that, next time you call a priest of your Church 'Father...'. Suggestion: Stick to one or two issues at a time if you are really interested in discussing these topics. Most people don’t have time to respond to a wall of text. This goes for anyone using the “Ill drown you out with my own pontifications” tactic. |
| plop User ID: 72721196 United States12/18/2018 06:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: I’m so excited to go back to mass tomorrow . I don’t understand why some Christians say Catholics don’t know the Bible . As a former devout catholic; at least, I felt I was... I empathize with your desire For God. Yet, since I Became Born-Again (1984), God has NOT Led me or Directed me to have any further affiliation with the rcc; nor have I "joined" any other church or denomination. Quoting: Lester the rcc obfuscates and Denies The Scripture. the rcc further Denies Christ and The Father. Paying some form of lip service to The Holy Trinity as a mode of captivating their parishoners, their denial of God and HIS Plan for man is very apparent. The mass is false. Once Born-Again (see Ezekiel 36:26-27), God Does Bring us Into HIS Accord and we live our life here on earth In-HIM and With-HIM. The Born-Again IS Enabled By God The Father to KNOW and DO HIS Will and "Keep MY Statutes". All the rcc hierarchy claims for "motherchurch" to be necessary or divinely ordained; is Given Unto Us By Father God.... Jesus' Sacrifice is the theme of the rcc mass. communion with God comes from our Acting Upon our Faith, deciding that we can Trust Father Fully with every aspect of our lives and Telling HIM So. Giving HIM all we are and all we ever can be... There's no sacrament modality for Coming Unto The Father. So-called 'holy orders' are a rite of embracing motherchurch rather than Coming Unto The Father. So much Witness from Christ, St. Paul, and St. John about The Born-Again Life. NONE of their Witness correlates with the rcc rite. Sadly, the mass celebrates Jesus' Sacrifice, but ignores Father's Purpose In Ordaining HIS Son To Die For Us. The Whole Purpose of Christianity is Given In Witness By Christ Jesus in matt 22:1-14. The King's Wedding Feast For HIS Son... It's ALL About Answering Father's Call and being With HIM now and later In Heaven... St. John is the most revered Apostle by the rcc. Yet 'mother' denies John's Witness especially as Given in 1st Epistle 2:20: John is Witnessing of those Born-Again and Says: "But you have An Unction From The Holy One and KNOW All Things!" Such is living this life In Relationship With and In Constant Contact With The Father and HIS Holy Spirit! Christ Jesus Made The Way for us to Come Unto The Father... "...No man Cometh Unto The Father But BY ME!" John 14:6 the rcc denies that we can Come Unto The Father. Got to have 'mother' involved in there; and I'm not talking about Mother Mary. Plenty of apostasy that rcc has enshrined in its rites and dogma; but if the rcc were genuinely Of-God and seeking to Bring Others Unto HIM, it would have no fear of other deniminations or fellowships. I am in no way a "fallen" catholic. I am one who Came Unto The Father by my own free-will and Gave HIM MY life and my will to use as HE Sees Purposed. I have Stood In Father's Presence. I Know HIS Voice, Touch, Feel... I Know HIM BETTER than my own parents or siblings. Really depends on whether you can put your TRUST In God or in an organization which defines HIM to suit their own purposes. You need no man to guide you or instruct you, if you would Come Unto The Father. Being Born-Again, God The Holy Spirit Abides Within you at all times and Guides your life. From Ezekiel ch 36, The Concise Witness of The Born-Again Life: 26. A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh. 27. And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them. John's Witness from ch 2 of his first epistle: 27. But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him. As Christ Witnesses in closing Matt 22:1-14 "For many were Called, but few are Chosen!" If you KNOW WHO Christ Jesus Is, It's Because Father PUT that Knowledge Upon your heart. (matt 16:13-19) All who KNOW WHO HE IS were Called... Only a few chose-elected to Trust Father Completely and Come Unto HIM to be Born-Again. I was just Blessed enough to be full-broken and Enabled to Give HIM My ALL. Changed my life, then and forever! If you Love God First and Foremost; HE Will Do The Same For YOU! Maranatha!!! Thank you for posting this ! Did you never believe in the Eucharist or did you just abandon it? We fear no other denominations. It’s actually the other way around. Orthodox have the Real Presence too. The Catholic Church recognizes this, and the Orthodox Priests are considered valid Priests by the Catholic Church.The Catholic Church considers Orthodox as a "sister" church, and if you cannot attend Mass at a Catholic Church for some reason, you can fulfill your Sunday obligation by going to an Orthodox Church, and receive the Eucharist. OTOH, Orthodox consider Roman Catholic to be heretical. Seeing what is sitting on Peter's seat, that is a very accurate analysis. Byzantine Catholic is a bridge to Orthodox. There is no difference other than the fact Byzantine Catholic is under the pope. your Sunday obligation [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] plop |
| Anonymous Coward 3373 User ID: 76907144 United States12/19/2018 07:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: I’m so excited to go back to mass tomorrow . I don’t understand why some Christians say Catholics don’t know the Bible . As a former devout catholic; at least, I felt I was... I empathize with your desire For God. Yet, since I Became Born-Again (1984), God has NOT Led me or Directed me to have any further affiliation with the rcc; nor have I "joined" any other church or denomination. Quoting: Lester the rcc obfuscates and Denies The Scripture. the rcc further Denies Christ and The Father. Paying some form of lip service to The Holy Trinity as a mode of captivating their parishoners, their denial of God and HIS Plan for man is very apparent. The mass is false. Once Born-Again (see Ezekiel 36:26-27), God Does Bring us Into HIS Accord and we live our life here on earth In-HIM and With-HIM. The Born-Again IS Enabled By God The Father to KNOW and DO HIS Will and "Keep MY Statutes". All the rcc hierarchy claims for "motherchurch" to be necessary or divinely ordained; is Given Unto Us By Father God.... Jesus' Sacrifice is the theme of the rcc mass. communion with God comes from our Acting Upon our Faith, deciding that we can Trust Father Fully with every aspect of our lives and Telling HIM So. Giving HIM all we are and all we ever can be... There's no sacrament modality for Coming Unto The Father. So-called 'holy orders' are a rite of embracing motherchurch rather than Coming Unto The Father. So much Witness from Christ, St. Paul, and St. John about The Born-Again Life. NONE of their Witness correlates with the rcc rite. Sadly, the mass celebrates Jesus' Sacrifice, but ignores Father's Purpose In Ordaining HIS Son To Die For Us. The Whole Purpose of Christianity is Given In Witness By Christ Jesus in matt 22:1-14. The King's Wedding Feast For HIS Son... It's ALL About Answering Father's Call and being With HIM now and later In Heaven... St. John is the most revered Apostle by the rcc. Yet 'mother' denies John's Witness especially as Given in 1st Epistle 2:20: John is Witnessing of those Born-Again and Says: "But you have An Unction From The Holy One and KNOW All Things!" Such is living this life In Relationship With and In Constant Contact With The Father and HIS Holy Spirit! Christ Jesus Made The Way for us to Come Unto The Father... "...No man Cometh Unto The Father But BY ME!" John 14:6 the rcc denies that we can Come Unto The Father. Got to have 'mother' involved in there; and I'm not talking about Mother Mary. Plenty of apostasy that rcc has enshrined in its rites and dogma; but if the rcc were genuinely Of-God and seeking to Bring Others Unto HIM, it would have no fear of other deniminations or fellowships. I am in no way a "fallen" catholic. I am one who Came Unto The Father by my own free-will and Gave HIM MY life and my will to use as HE Sees Purposed. I have Stood In Father's Presence. I Know HIS Voice, Touch, Feel... I Know HIM BETTER than my own parents or siblings. Really depends on whether you can put your TRUST In God or in an organization which defines HIM to suit their own purposes. You need no man to guide you or instruct you, if you would Come Unto The Father. Being Born-Again, God The Holy Spirit Abides Within you at all times and Guides your life. From Ezekiel ch 36, The Concise Witness of The Born-Again Life: 26. A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh. 27. And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them. John's Witness from ch 2 of his first epistle: 27. But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him. As Christ Witnesses in closing Matt 22:1-14 "For many were Called, but few are Chosen!" If you KNOW WHO Christ Jesus Is, It's Because Father PUT that Knowledge Upon your heart. (matt 16:13-19) All who KNOW WHO HE IS were Called... Only a few chose-elected to Trust Father Completely and Come Unto HIM to be Born-Again. I was just Blessed enough to be full-broken and Enabled to Give HIM My ALL. Changed my life, then and forever! If you Love God First and Foremost; HE Will Do The Same For YOU! Maranatha!!! Thank you for posting this ! Did you never believe in the Eucharist or did you just abandon it? We fear no other denominations. It’s actually the other way around. Orthodox have the Real Presence too. The Catholic Church recognizes this, and the Orthodox Priests are considered valid Priests by the Catholic Church.The Catholic Church considers Orthodox as a "sister" church, and if you cannot attend Mass at a Catholic Church for some reason, you can fulfill your Sunday obligation by going to an Orthodox Church, and receive the Eucharist. OTOH, Orthodox consider Roman Catholic to be heretical. Seeing what is sitting on Peter's seat, that is a very accurate analysis. Byzantine Catholic is a bridge to Orthodox. There is no difference other than the fact Byzantine Catholic is under the pope. Thanks for the info about the Eucharist. I didn’t know that. If we believe the same things about faith and morals, what is your problem with the Pope? Yes, there was corruption in the Church. There might still be. No human is perfect. Catholics know that the Pope is a sinner. But his job is to not lead the Church into error regarding Church doctrine on faith and morality. How could you call recognizing the office established by Christ himself when he gave the Keys to Peter heretical? Sounds like you’re just looking for a reason to justify the schism, because that is absurd. Anon Coward |
| Anonymous Coward 3373 User ID: 76907144 United States12/19/2018 07:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: I’m so excited to go back to mass tomorrow . I don’t understand why some Christians say Catholics don’t know the Bible . Your Church 'Fathers' were notorious for lying and changing the scriptures, they did it so much that their sin (according to the Bible anyone who takes out even the smallest letter on purpose from the writings will be himself TAKEN OUT OF THE BOOK OF LIFE !!!!!!!) Quoting: across the board and THEY (your priests) took OUT WHOLE PORTIONS, WHOLESALE changing it to fit their 'OLD RELIGION', a Mystery Religion! which went as far back as you can go in human history, that we now know of! This SIN the people ignored, and was called 'pious fraud'. PIOUS FRAUD? Isn't that a contradiction? That's like saying, I'm going to lie to you ABOUT THIS RELIGION AND THIS BOOK THE BIBLE, but it's for your own good' and YOU ~ AND TRILLIONS MORE LIKE YOU ~ THINK that this is ALL RIGHT!!??? The Catholic Church literally chose the books of the Bible. To recognize the authority of Scripture is to recognize the authority of the Catholic Church. By the way, the Protestant Bible is missing the 7 books that were removed by Martin Luther in the 16th century. Anon Coward |
| TwentyTwoTooMany User ID: 76517715 United States12/19/2018 08:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: I’m so excited to go back to mass tomorrow . I don’t understand why some Christians say Catholics don’t know the Bible . Protestantism & Evangelicalism Refuted - Orthodox Theology - Jay Dyer [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner. Thread: Exploring Orthodox Christianity - The One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church Thread: Superoxide Dismutase (SOD) - The Ultimate Anti-Oxidant; Negative Ions, Mycoplasma, Mitochondria, Gulf War Syndrome, Glutathione Thread: The Death Knell For Traitors Is Ringing *Update 4-12-2016 added thread to OP* Thread: Arm yourselves Christian soldiers! Defending yours and your families lives against the VERY REAL THREAT OF GOV. TYRANNY is paramount! Thread: LaVoy Finicum Was Intentionally Ambushed At ‘Dead Man's Roadblock’ FBI And State Police Implicated Thread: 90% or more are infected with experimental biological WMD: Weaponized Mycoplasma *UPDATE 7/25/2017 pg. 8 Thread: BREAKING: New Bill S.722 Passes House and Senate, Ushers In WW3 With Russia TRUMP VETO IRRELEVANT |
| tiger1 User ID: 76712081 United States12/20/2018 10:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: I’m so excited to go back to mass tomorrow . I don’t understand why some Christians say Catholics don’t know the Bible . Did you never believe in the Eucharist or did you just abandon it? We fear no other denominations. It’s actually the other way around. Orthodox have the Real Presence too. The Catholic Church recognizes this, and the Orthodox Priests are considered valid Priests by the Catholic Church.The Catholic Church considers Orthodox as a "sister" church, and if you cannot attend Mass at a Catholic Church for some reason, you can fulfill your Sunday obligation by going to an Orthodox Church, and receive the Eucharist. OTOH, Orthodox consider Roman Catholic to be heretical. Seeing what is sitting on Peter's seat, that is a very accurate analysis. Byzantine Catholic is a bridge to Orthodox. There is no difference other than the fact Byzantine Catholic is under the pope. Thanks for the info about the Eucharist. I didn’t know that. If we believe the same things about faith and morals, what is your problem with the Pope? Yes, there was corruption in the Church. There might still be. No human is perfect. Catholics know that the Pope is a sinner. But his job is to not lead the Church into error regarding Church doctrine on faith and morality. How could you call recognizing the office established by Christ himself when he gave the Keys to Peter heretical? Sounds like you’re just looking for a reason to justify the schism, because that is absurd. You cannot have 2 popes at once. Benedict, a conservative, was ousted for Francis, a socialist liberal. Francis has spoken many things against the Bible and the teachings of the Catholic Church.Francis is a fraud. Praise God from Whom all Blessings flow !!! |
